what's the deal with this new ilx code stuff? (aka where's my handy ILE link?)

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eh? (i'll bet this is number 3 in a series of just about 7 identical threads being started right now)

― jermaine (jnoble), Tuesday, 29 March 2005 21:43 (twenty-one years ago)

yeh please bring that direct ILM/ILE right hand link back ASAP

― Sven Bastard (blueski), Tuesday, 29 March 2005 21:43 (twenty-one years ago)

Yes!!! I've already logged out twice when my reflex to switch boards kicked in. :(

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 29 March 2005 21:44 (twenty-one years ago)

Haha Jordan OTM.

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 29 March 2005 21:45 (twenty-one years ago)

ah wait 'bookmark board'!!

― jermaine (jnoble), Tuesday, 29 March 2005 21:45 (twenty-one years ago)

Just click on "bookmark board" and you won't ever need one again!

I like it.

― Tom (Groke), Tuesday, 29 March 2005 21:45 (twenty-one years ago)

I think this new setup is WAY BETTER. It will encourage the use of other boards, especially I Love Film!!!

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Tuesday, 29 March 2005 21:45 (twenty-one years ago)

i don't want to use the other boards!!

― jody von oy (Jody Beth Rosen), Tuesday, 29 March 2005 21:46 (twenty-one years ago)

OMG, this awesome! I Love Books will get more attention too!

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Tuesday, 29 March 2005 21:46 (twenty-one years ago)

xpost, you don't have to bookmark them!

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Tuesday, 29 March 2005 21:46 (twenty-one years ago)

this is great but I keep accidentally logging myself out by habit of going to the right side. can we, uh, swap them?

― kyle (akmonday), Tuesday, 29 March 2005 21:47 (twenty-one years ago)

And the placement is actually better. It'll take a couple hours getting used to, but then it will be natural.

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Tuesday, 29 March 2005 21:47 (twenty-one years ago)

Wow, that is pretty cool. I've got my four boards bookmarked.

Haha how come the one for ILC says "Comix" instead of ILC? It's probably because of that dastardly cooking board, am I right?

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 29 March 2005 21:47 (twenty-one years ago)

maybe we should have worked on making "sticky" board-wide threads to announce this sort of stuff first?

:-(

Praise, criticisms, suggestions: http://ilx.wh3rd.net/newanswers.php?board=55

I hope most ppl don't find this rejig too traumatic.

― Jaunty Alan (Alan), Tuesday, 29 March 2005 21:48 (twenty-one years ago)

YOU MUST LEARN NEW WAYS

― mullygrubbr (bulbs), Tuesday, 29 March 2005 21:48 (twenty-one years ago)

thread title should've read "where's my handy ILM link", pedant fans.

does this go some way to answering the age old question dilemma of ILE on the left, ILM on the right ?

― jermaine (jnoble), Tuesday, 29 March 2005 21:48 (twenty-one years ago)

You can change the bookmark text in your settings - these are just the defaults when you first bookmark boards.

― Jaunty Alan (Alan), Tuesday, 29 March 2005 21:50 (twenty-one years ago)

I wish there was a way to turn on images for a single thread only.

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Tuesday, 29 March 2005 21:51 (twenty-one years ago)

ha, human computer interaction

who is the interaction design whizz?

― DJ Martian (djmartian), Tuesday, 29 March 2005 21:51 (twenty-one years ago)

um how do you unbookmark when you bookmarked ile twice?

sorry alan, i seem to be yr micro-nemesis today

― mark s (mark s), Tuesday, 29 March 2005 21:51 (twenty-one years ago)

if i delete m'cookies, will i have to rebookmark the boards i like?

― jermaine (jnoble), Tuesday, 29 March 2005 21:52 (twenty-one years ago)

maybe "show all details" should override your images setting??

edit bookmarks in your user settings - you can rename, delete and you like

― Jaunty Alan (Alan), Tuesday, 29 March 2005 21:52 (twenty-one years ago)

ANY you like

― Jaunty Alan (Alan), Tuesday, 29 March 2005 21:53 (twenty-one years ago)

sorted!!

this is exciting!!

― mark s (mark s), Tuesday, 29 March 2005 21:53 (twenty-one years ago)

I love the bookmarks! Good job, Alan.

― Leon Bluth (Ex Leon), Tuesday, 29 March 2005 21:54 (twenty-one years ago)

i like!!

― mark s (mark s), Tuesday, 29 March 2005 21:54 (twenty-one years ago)

I'll be interested to see if this brings on a new proliferation of miniboards.

― Tom (Groke), Tuesday, 29 March 2005 21:54 (twenty-one years ago)

it will definitely make me pay attention to ILBooks and ILFilm more

― kyle (akmonday), Tuesday, 29 March 2005 21:55 (twenty-one years ago)

i'd love to know how you managed to bookmark it twice, mark!

mini-boards would be great. obv the "make new board" function is not available as it once was, but lobbying for new boards i think would not be out of place on the ModReq board. It will be just like USENET

― Jaunty Alan (Alan), Tuesday, 29 March 2005 21:55 (twenty-one years ago)

Will it ever be possible to start up a new board again? Hmm? Hmmmmm?

― Remy (Ulysses Q. Fitzgerald) (x Jeremy), Tuesday, 29 March 2005 21:56 (twenty-one years ago)

Whoa, x-post!

― Remy (Ulysses Q. Fitzgerald) (x Jeremy), Tuesday, 29 March 2005 21:56 (twenty-one years ago)

One suggestion is that the active bookmark be bolded. It would make it easier to tell which board you're currently on.

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Tuesday, 29 March 2005 21:57 (twenty-one years ago)

I had no idea "create new board" had vanished actually!

― Tom (Groke), Tuesday, 29 March 2005 21:57 (twenty-one years ago)

Spencer, doesn't the fact that it doesn't have a purple link clue you in to that, though?

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 29 March 2005 21:58 (twenty-one years ago)

Okay this is great! A vast improvement.

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 29 March 2005 21:58 (twenty-one years ago)

SPENCER IS QUITE CORRECT THO - I totally meant to add that before I committed. lazy me. will do next time there is a big change. It should be just like the line below that says which bit of the board you are in

― Jaunty Alan (Alan), Tuesday, 29 March 2005 21:58 (twenty-one years ago)

It will be just like USENET
OMG YES!!!!! Can we make people who want new boards fill out a charter and have ILX-wide votes for approval?

― The Ghost of The Definition Of User Unfriendly (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 29 March 2005 21:58 (twenty-one years ago)

Also: I really loved the functionality of the old, red "23 unread messages" option. On the settings page it's still selectable, but it doesn't seem to make any difference...?

― Remy (Ulysses Q. Fitzgerald) (x Jeremy), Tuesday, 29 March 2005 22:00 (twenty-one years ago)

Spencer, doesn't the fact that it doesn't have a purple link clue you in to that, though?

Yes, but it should be more positively indicated. As it stands the boards you're not on stand out more because of the underlining.

Alan, this is really great. Thank You and anyone else who worked on this.

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Tuesday, 29 March 2005 22:01 (twenty-one years ago)

haha yes, i think after i bookmarked ile" i clicked BACK to the earlier version of the same page for no sensible reason (ie instead of going via "now return to the page you came from") and so it looked like it hadn't registered so i reclicked it

― mark s (mark s), Tuesday, 29 March 2005 22:02 (twenty-one years ago)

"i'd love to know how you managed to bookmark it twice, mark!"

I did the same thing. I just clicked back instead of clicking the thing to go back to the page.

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 29 March 2005 22:02 (twenty-one years ago)

I FEAR CHANGE!

― scott seward (scott seward), Tuesday, 29 March 2005 22:02 (twenty-one years ago)

http://www.ignorancia.org/images/tests/coins.jpg

― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 29 March 2005 22:03 (twenty-one years ago)

Also: I really loved the functionality of the old, red "23 unread messages" option.

yeah, (later) seems to work now--AWESOME--but the numbers don't appear in the New Answers?

― mookieproof (mookieproof), Tuesday, 29 March 2005 22:04 (twenty-one years ago)

now move blog view up to the top of the page in new answers!!

(plz)

(haha yes i know there is "history" connected to this) (so you don't have to)

― mark s (mark s), Tuesday, 29 March 2005 22:04 (twenty-one years ago)

Ooh, this is very good. Thankyou Alan/Andrew/Noodles. It was very annoying having to keep going back to the Ilxor home page.

(I was looking forward to throwing a faux-strop when 'All Noise Dude Summertime Fun Board and Pickle Bar' took up an entire line's worth of bookmarks but you appear ahead of the game on that one)

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Tuesday, 29 March 2005 22:05 (twenty-one years ago)

sorry, I'm with the "this is bullshit!" contingent.

― Matos-Webster Dictionary (M Matos), Tuesday, 29 March 2005 22:05 (twenty-one years ago)

red numbers is proving too thorny, but you should be taken to the "Unread messages" rule, which does most of the work.

― Jaunty Alan (Alan), Tuesday, 29 March 2005 22:06 (twenty-one years ago)

Just because you don't want an easy link to the baseball board, Matos, doesn't mean those who do should have to suffer!

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 29 March 2005 22:06 (twenty-one years ago)

. . . except I'm not anymore, I now see the error of my ways re: bookmkarking. nice work. carry on. (haha almost typed "carry one," yes carry 1 on.)

― Matos-Webster Dictionary (M Matos), Tuesday, 29 March 2005 22:06 (twenty-one years ago)

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i love the 'lies' on the newspaper box cuz it inevitably becomes 'flies' within the week. sometimes you get someone esp. handy with a spraycan 'propaganda' becomes 'props2gandalf'.

― j blount (papa la bas), Wednesday, 30 March 2005 18:05 (twenty-one years ago)

well at least it's easier to remove i guess

-- ()ops ([email protected]) (webmail), March 30th, 2005 2:02 PM. (()()ps) (later) (link)

They seem to lie tattered and faded on no parking signs for years.

― BOATPEOPLEHATEFUCK (ex machina), Wednesday, 30 March 2005 18:07 (twenty-one years ago)

http://www.fskidmoreproducts.com/09fbbf80.jpg

― hstencil (hstencil), Wednesday, 30 March 2005 18:07 (twenty-one years ago)

There's a tagger with a spelling problem that apparently has lived in the 5-square-mile-radius for close to 10 years now, everything in this neighborhood has "Christanty" written on it...I figure, it's either a retarded named Christian or a Xtian fundamentalist proving a point for all of us.

― nickalicious (nickalicious), Wednesday, 30 March 2005 18:12 (twenty-one years ago)

Also, if anyone thinks graffiti can't be art, read one Sasha Frere-Jones blog, thx.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 30 March 2005 18:52 (twenty-one years ago)

or like, look at some nice pieces.

― ()ops (()()ps), Wednesday, 30 March 2005 18:58 (twenty-one years ago)

though tagging != grafitti

― ()ops (()()ps), Wednesday, 30 March 2005 18:59 (twenty-one years ago)

i just cleaned out all the Noise bookmarks. add it back if you want it. i won't do that again, but there were so many dupes - and in ppl who hadn't been vocally complaining - that I figured it was easier for the noise ppl to add it back, than for all them ppl to remove the many dupes.

i hope i won't have to do that again - the URL trick shouldn't work any more.

― Jaunty Alan (Alan), Wednesday, 30 March 2005 19:06 (twenty-one years ago)

Also, if anyone thinks graffiti can't be art, read one Sasha Frere-Jones blog, thx.

Very true, but I would say that technically the art there is the photography.

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Wednesday, 30 March 2005 19:10 (twenty-one years ago)

go to one brooklyn museum

― j blount (papa la bas), Wednesday, 30 March 2005 19:12 (twenty-one years ago)

...in 1982

― ()ops (()()ps), Wednesday, 30 March 2005 19:13 (twenty-one years ago)

i hope i won't have to do that again - the URL trick shouldn't work any more.

-- Jaunty Alan (AlanTrewarth...) (webmail), March 30th, 2005 3:06 PM. (Alan) (later) (link)

Are you making sure the http request "accept" header would match "image/*"?

― BOATPEOPLEHATEFUCK (ex machina), Wednesday, 30 March 2005 19:17 (twenty-one years ago)

why in 1982 oops?

― j blount (papa la bas), Wednesday, 30 March 2005 19:31 (twenty-one years ago)

wasn't that around when the "serious" art world started to view grafitti as art?

― ()ops (()()ps), Wednesday, 30 March 2005 19:46 (twenty-one years ago)

tagging isn't art, tagging is tagging, or indeed vandalism. ALTERNATIVELY, i am breathing in oxygen and breathing out carbon dioxide. it is art. possibly even good art. me breathing is arguably more 'valuable' 'art' than tagging, though others may of course disagree. of course referring to my own process of existence as an artform is, i think, utterly impractical if not completely useless in critical discourse. ditto frivalous pursuits such as tagging or banging a saucepan loudly with a wooden spoon. or being John Cage (ha ha)...

of course, if you invited a bunch of kids into a room, gave them pens and invited them to scrawl all over the walls, then invited other people inside to have a look, that would be art.

i prefer to think of this as a perception or suggestion, rather than an opinion.

― Sven Hongroe (blueski), Wednesday, 30 March 2005 19:51 (twenty-one years ago)

bullshit

― Sven Basted (blueski), Wednesday, 30 March 2005 19:52 (twenty-one years ago)

ditto frivalous pursuits such as tagging or banging a saucepan loudly with a wooden spoon. or being John Cage (ha ha)...

What about the frivolous pursuit of splattering a bunch of paint on a canvas? Or recording yourself singing and monkeying around with some instruments?

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 30 March 2005 19:56 (twenty-one years ago)

jaymc, i can see a clear difference - probably more to do with the motivation (do taggers think of themselves as artists creating art? is that the best indication of what constitutes art? if not, why not? is it actually that unreasonable?)

though i continue to be fascinated and frustrated by the "this is art" = art' thing, especially considering the idea that location can be as crucial to the context as motivation. if someone says it's art and someone else says it's not then neither is right or wrong, hence 'fun' frustration.

― Momus Hongroe (blueski), Wednesday, 30 March 2005 19:58 (twenty-one years ago)

apples and oranges
xpost

― ()ops (()()ps), Wednesday, 30 March 2005 19:59 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm not hearing the aesthetic debate above me.

I am enjoying the new phenomenon of people popping up and the "other boards" they previously never went to, as if they can now travel at warp speed through the bookmark wormhole, as opposed to the former slow boat to Omicron Ceti III on impulse drive.

― Ken L (Ken L), Wednesday, 30 March 2005 20:01 (twenty-one years ago)

i never understand why ppl have such a hard time w.the idea of "bad art"
of course tagging is art (even the eleventy-twillionth time): what the hell else is it?

it's depressing/oppressive when it's bad art (eg the bus shelter - despite being even more mass-produced - was better art when untagged)

― mark p (Mark P), Wednesday, 30 March 2005 20:03 (twenty-one years ago)

nah

― Sven Basted (blueski), Wednesday, 30 March 2005 20:04 (twenty-one years ago)

or maybe yes, it would be funny if taggers were reprimanded and prosecuted not for vandalising but for doing it so unimaginatively. Bad artists would become criminals and I would probably be in a lot of trouble (unless I become wholesale judge, in which case everyone else would be in trouble).

― Sven Basted (blueski), Wednesday, 30 March 2005 20:09 (twenty-one years ago)

taggers
Nigel Tufnel to thread!

― Ken L (Ken L), Wednesday, 30 March 2005 20:12 (twenty-one years ago)

the next time someone wonders where the perception that the british hate hip-hop comes from they should be directed to this thread

― j blount (papa la bas), Wednesday, 30 March 2005 20:27 (twenty-one years ago)

Are people still assuming that British people hate hip-hop?

Am I not allowed to like hip-hop anymore because I'm not crazy about graffiti?!

Does hip-hop = graffiti?!?!

― sugarpants: kind of blurry, kind of double (sugarpants), Wednesday, 30 March 2005 20:45 (twenty-one years ago)

the next time someone wonders where the perception that the british don't know what hip-hop is comes from they should be directed to this thread

― j blount (papa la bas), Wednesday, 30 March 2005 20:57 (twenty-one years ago)

http://www.rotovibe.com/images/spencerair.gif

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Wednesday, 30 March 2005 21:06 (twenty-one years ago)

http://www.graffiti.org/

(sugarpants, google "4 pillars of hip hop")

― ()ops (()()ps), Wednesday, 30 March 2005 21:13 (twenty-one years ago)

graffiti has had about as much to do with hip-hop in the last 15 years as sneakers, caps, action figures, branded soft drinks, womens bottoms etc.

― Sven Basted (blueski), Wednesday, 30 March 2005 21:18 (twenty-one years ago)

i.e. a fair amount but not enough to retain '4 pillars' validity re definition of hip-hop today. what this has to do with the art argument i'm not sure.

― Sven Basted (blueski), Wednesday, 30 March 2005 21:20 (twenty-one years ago)

The 5 pillars of hip-hop!

― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 30 March 2005 21:21 (twenty-one years ago)

(I am particularly fond of the "women's bottoms" pillar myself.)

― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 30 March 2005 21:22 (twenty-one years ago)

OTM!!!!!

― BOATPEOPLEHATEFUCK (ex machina), Wednesday, 30 March 2005 21:22 (twenty-one years ago)

it's five pillars of hip-hop a la five pillars of islam. both will get you arrested.

― j blount (papa la bas), Wednesday, 30 March 2005 21:25 (twenty-one years ago)

i don't know if it's up to a british dude on a message board to decide what is and isn't hip hop.

― ()ops (()()ps), Wednesday, 30 March 2005 21:36 (twenty-one years ago)

fuck you man Kool Herc was from Nuneaton

― Sven Basted (blueski), Wednesday, 30 March 2005 22:55 (twenty-one years ago)

anyway, what's happened to my Noise bookmark? it's disappeared during this fiasco

― Sven Basted (blueski), Wednesday, 30 March 2005 22:55 (twenty-one years ago)

I renamed my Noise bookmark "Pickle."

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 30 March 2005 23:00 (twenty-one years ago)

Then I renamed my pickle "Noise."

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 30 March 2005 23:01 (twenty-one years ago)

you were doing art!

― Sven Basted (blueski), Wednesday, 30 March 2005 23:12 (twenty-one years ago)

http://www.steinway.com/150/carnegie_hall/i/art-garfunkel.jpg

― RJG (RJG), Wednesday, 30 March 2005 23:14 (twenty-one years ago)

gross

― Sven Basted (blueski), Thursday, 31 March 2005 00:18 (twenty-one years ago)

I was wondering where all the Excelsior posts were coming from.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 31 March 2005 00:34 (twenty-one years ago)

what i wanna know is if graffiti is anything like shouting at people from cars?

― Sterling Clover (s_clover), Thursday, 31 March 2005 02:54 (twenty-one years ago)

Only if you wear a trucker hat while doing it.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 31 March 2005 02:55 (twenty-one years ago)

Noize dudes don't war trucker hats!

― Remy Ulysses Fitzgerald (x Jeremy), Thursday, 31 March 2005 03:02 (twenty-one years ago)

http://axisofeve.org/gfx/head.jpg

― Remy Ulysses Fitzgerald (x Jeremy), Thursday, 31 March 2005 03:08 (twenty-one years ago)

That guy is definately the 'it' guy in his fraternity.

― Remy Ulysses Fitzgerald (x Jeremy), Thursday, 31 March 2005 03:11 (twenty-one years ago)

Some of you are being very art-ist.

DO YOU SEE!!!!

― The Yellow Kid, Thursday, 31 March 2005 04:53 (twenty-one years ago)

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