http://www.express.co.uk/pixfeed/express.gifHeres some links to the story.
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/kent/4534903.stm
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/kent/4545657.stm
http://politics.guardian.co.uk/backbench/story/0,14158,1483375,00.html
http://news.independent.co.uk/uk/crime/story.jsp?story=637988
http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,2-2005220015,00.html
http://www.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/europe/05/12/uk.mall.hoods.reut/index.html
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=348371&in_page_id=1770
― Repressed Kid, Friday, 13 May 2005 18:41 (twenty-one years ago)
― andy --, Friday, 13 May 2005 18:43 (twenty-one years ago)
― Repressed Kid, Friday, 13 May 2005 18:46 (twenty-one years ago)
― ()ops (()()ps), Friday, 13 May 2005 18:46 (twenty-one years ago)
"YAY THE BOSOM!"
"BOO THE HOODIE!"
"CRY, THE BELOVED MAN U FAN."
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 13 May 2005 18:46 (twenty-one years ago)
― Huk-L, Friday, 13 May 2005 18:47 (twenty-one years ago)
― Repressed Kid, Friday, 13 May 2005 18:47 (twenty-one years ago)
Thug? This looks like Jon.
― d'ngullberry (noisemeltdown), Friday, 13 May 2005 18:48 (twenty-one years ago)
― M. White (Miguelito), Friday, 13 May 2005 18:50 (twenty-one years ago)
― Craig Gilchrist (Craig Gilchrist), Friday, 13 May 2005 18:53 (twenty-one years ago)
Will sunglasses be next since they obscure your eyes ?
Why don't they give kids somewhere to go so they aren't bored and hanging around these malls? This is the real issue.
― Repressed Kid, Friday, 13 May 2005 18:57 (twenty-one years ago)
― Huk-L, Friday, 13 May 2005 19:00 (twenty-one years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 13 May 2005 19:01 (twenty-one years ago)
― Huk-L, Friday, 13 May 2005 19:02 (twenty-one years ago)
― mike a, Friday, 13 May 2005 19:06 (twenty-one years ago)
― Huk-L, Friday, 13 May 2005 19:09 (twenty-one years ago)
― Repressed Kid, Friday, 13 May 2005 19:10 (twenty-one years ago)
― Craig Gilchrist (Craig Gilchrist), Friday, 13 May 2005 19:10 (twenty-one years ago)
― TV's Mr Noodle Vague (noodle vague), Friday, 13 May 2005 19:12 (twenty-one years ago)
― Mrs. Brigadier Simon VeredeVere (Jocelyn), Friday, 13 May 2005 19:12 (twenty-one years ago)
New laws to tackle yobs and restore respect in society have been promised by Prime Minister Tony Blair. But will more legislation solve the problems, or just make them worse?
― Repressed Kid, Friday, 13 May 2005 19:13 (twenty-one years ago)
(I can't keep down my fascist urges here. Fuck the vicious thieving fuckers)
― Markelby (Mark C), Friday, 13 May 2005 19:20 (twenty-one years ago)
― Eyeball Kicks (Eyeball Kicks), Friday, 13 May 2005 23:50 (twenty-one years ago)
i've been asked to take off hats (not baseball caps) in bars before(i'm sure anyone who wears hats has) which is totally acceptable, otherwise what's the point of the cctv? the shopping centre also banned swearing, leafletting etc. it seems to be just the papers that are making it all about the hoodies
― Slumpman (Slump Man), Saturday, 14 May 2005 01:15 (twenty-one years ago)
― Slumpman (Slump Man), Saturday, 14 May 2005 01:17 (twenty-one years ago)
― Amon (eman), Saturday, 14 May 2005 01:31 (twenty-one years ago)
SAVE OUR HOODIES!
So, gargantuan London shopping centre Bluewater has decided to ban hooded sweatshirts. Always quick to spot a soft target, Deputy Prime Minister John Prescott has thrown his considerable weight behind the ban, declaring hoodies as "aggressive and intimidating", which, coming from him, is quite something. Apparently the amateur pugilist and style guru was recently "confronted by youths in a motorway café” and the sight of their shadowy cowled silhouettes looming over his pie'n'mash has clearly been haunting him ever since. While it's hard to deny that hoods are indeed used by dealers and thieves to keep their guilty mugs off CCTV, the hoodie is one the great inventions of the 20th Century and we must not allow it to be soiled with the grimy fingerprints of petty crime in the same way that the Burberry baseball cap has been made synonymous with football hooliganism and the advanced stages of chavdom. Everyone loves a hoodie, it 's the beans-on-toast of the fashion world, a comforting, effortless, everyday classic, often reinvented by rarely bettered. From the WWII navy seals who first stiched drawstring hoods and front pouches to their smock tops to the Bush-baiting "Black Hoodie Mob" in Eminem's pre-election “Mosh” video, via Afrika Bambaata, Rocky Balboa, Kylie, Donnie Darko and even the Grim Reaper himself, the hoodie has become a timeless wardrobe essential. It has survived the affront of J-Lo and Juicy Couture's slimy velour meddling, it has even survived the deeply disturbing "hoodie beneath a suit jacket" look of Timberlake, Charlie Busted and their boy-band brethren. But this new threat is far more sinister: a pincer movement from youth culture's two worst enemies; politics and commerce. Enough already. It's time for hoodie lovers to unite and make a stand. That's why Dazed is officially declaring this Saturday National Hoodie Day. So don the most "aggressive and intimidating" hoodie you can find, get down to your local mall, strike your shiftiest pose, hold your hoods up high and just say 'No' to Hood-ism. See you at Bluewater.
― emsk, Monday, 16 May 2005 09:42 (twenty-one years ago)
― Liz :x (Liz :x), Monday, 16 May 2005 09:49 (twenty-one years ago)
what about when the hat is perched atop a hooded head?
― charltonlido (gareth), Monday, 16 May 2005 09:53 (twenty-one years ago)
― $V£N! (blueski), Monday, 16 May 2005 09:53 (twenty-one years ago)
― $V£N! (blueski), Monday, 16 May 2005 09:57 (twenty-one years ago)
― charltonlido (gareth), Monday, 16 May 2005 09:58 (twenty-one years ago)
D&C's riposte is a bit of a joke when you consider A) nobody complains THIS much about club or other social establishment dress codes, and B) who the fuck wants to hang out in Bluewater anyway? get one imagination kids.
― $V£N! (blueski), Monday, 16 May 2005 10:01 (twenty-one years ago)
― Markelby (Mark C), Monday, 16 May 2005 10:13 (twenty-one years ago)
― $V£N! (blueski), Monday, 16 May 2005 10:26 (twenty-one years ago)
Get One EImagination? Its a mall full of shopsand a 20 screen cinema and a cheap food court and plenty of stuff to nick/play with. How much of an imagination do you need if you live in Thurrock?
― Pete (Pete), Monday, 16 May 2005 10:32 (twenty-one years ago)
Is this just a British thing or is this happening every where? By this I mean this terrible way of dealing with problems?
Problem: Too many spotty little oiks chewing gum and using slang words in the town centre.Solution: Start a club night for young people or even a youth centre or at least SOMETHING that might let them escape their home for a few hours and let them socialise outside of school. No, not a Christian youth group or an old fashioned youth club with skittles like you used to have in the old days. Kids be playing Playstation now. Even lowering the drinking age a bit if we must?What really happens: Lets ban baseball caps and hoodies because that'll stop bored teens hanging around outside the VG waiting for their fake ID to come through the post. Then lets complain that our nation's children are becoming a bunch of lethargic, overweight telly addicts who have no concept of what it is to be a part of society.
Problem: Too many cars on the road, too much pollution, too much congestion.Solution: Enforce cheaper and more efficient public transport.What really happens: Make the roads smaller and raise the price of petrol in the hope that it will discourage people from using their cars while public transport becomes outmoded and disarrayed.
It's this solution of restriction rather than liberation that seems so ingrained in the way Britain is run. Instead of looking at solutions, councils and governments go for the shortgame by putting up balsa-wood barriers in order to entertain Daily Express readers until the next grumblefad (to coin a term) comes along.
― dog latin (dog latin), Monday, 16 May 2005 10:34 (twenty-one years ago)
bit in the guardian this weekend spoke to one of the hoodies, made me think this is too little too late - 'yeah i used to wear my hood up all the time last year *when it was fashionable*'
― koogs (koogs), Monday, 16 May 2005 10:42 (twenty-one years ago)
― Markelby (Mark C), Monday, 16 May 2005 10:56 (twenty-one years ago)
― $V£N! (blueski), Monday, 16 May 2005 11:01 (twenty-one years ago)
― N_RQ, Monday, 16 May 2005 11:06 (twenty-one years ago)
can't decide if what bothers me most is the fear != respect thing or the way they're starting from so obviously completely the wrong place and direction.
― emsk, Monday, 16 May 2005 11:14 (twenty-one years ago)
xxpost.
― Jarlr'mai (jarlrmai), Monday, 16 May 2005 11:26 (twenty-one years ago)
well, obviously the hoodies are the symptom and not the problem, but with youth criminality in general talk of symptoms and problems is more difficult. what is the 'root problem' and what should be done?
― N_RQ, Monday, 16 May 2005 11:35 (twenty-one years ago)
Pff, fuck teenagers, anyway.
― Pashmina (Pashmina), Monday, 16 May 2005 11:42 (twenty-one years ago)
― NickB (NickB), Monday, 16 May 2005 11:43 (twenty-one years ago)
A children's charity has hit back at a controversial ban on hooded tops by urging young people to boycott the shopping centre which imposed it.
HELLO, EARTH TO CHILDREN'S CHARITY!! YOU CANNOT BOYCOTT SOMETHING FROM WHICH YOU ARE ALREADY BANNED!
― ken c (ken c), Monday, 16 May 2005 11:55 (twenty-one years ago)
Spokesman Tim Linehan said: "Here you have a shopping centre banning people who wear the items of clothing that they sell at the centre.
"What happens to young people if they buy those items of clothing on the premises, are they not allowed to wear them on the way out?
erm, wearing clothing just bought from a shop?? Automatic arrest by the LAME PATROL.
― ken c (ken c), Monday, 16 May 2005 11:58 (twenty-one years ago)
― $V£N! (blueski), Monday, 16 May 2005 12:03 (twenty-one years ago)
Feral Britain: Thugs attack funeral car A funeral cortege has been attacked by a teenage gang as the yob culture plumbed new depths. In the sickening attack, the thugs threw an 8ft-long lump of wood through the windscreen of the slow-moving limousine carrying women mourners. The incident is the latest in a hooligan explosion faced by communities across Britain
― NickB (NickB), Thursday, 19 May 2005 09:26 (twenty-one years ago)
― $V£N! (blueski), Thursday, 19 May 2005 09:28 (twenty-one years ago)
brett anderson/paul dacre -- have YOU seen them together?
― N_RQ, Thursday, 19 May 2005 09:30 (twenty-one years ago)
hooligans are suicide bombers now?
xxpost
― ken c (ken c), Thursday, 19 May 2005 09:31 (twenty-one years ago)
That's like saying "not everyone wears jeans". I'd say that about 75% of teens own some kind of hooded top that they wear regularly.
― dog latin (dog latin), Thursday, 19 May 2005 09:35 (twenty-one years ago)
― RJG (RJG), Thursday, 19 May 2005 09:37 (twenty-one years ago)
― dog latin (dog latin), Thursday, 19 May 2005 09:54 (twenty-one years ago)
― N_REQ, Thursday, 19 May 2005 10:04 (twenty-one years ago)
― dog latin (dog latin), Thursday, 19 May 2005 10:14 (twenty-one years ago)
― ambrose (ambrose), Thursday, 19 May 2005 10:44 (twenty-one years ago)
― Jarlr'mai (jarlrmai), Thursday, 19 May 2005 10:56 (twenty-one years ago)
someone photoshop a hoodie on jon spencer plz
― stevie (stevie), Thursday, 19 May 2005 11:17 (twenty-one years ago)
spontaneous combustion no doubt
― Snowy Mann (rdmanston), Thursday, 19 May 2005 11:20 (twenty-one years ago)
― $V£N! (blueski), Thursday, 19 May 2005 11:35 (twenty-one years ago)
― Ste (Fuzzy), Thursday, 19 May 2005 11:36 (twenty-one years ago)
― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 19 May 2005 11:57 (twenty-one years ago)
― suzy (suzy), Thursday, 19 May 2005 12:01 (twenty-one years ago)
― dog latin (dog latin), Thursday, 19 May 2005 12:12 (twenty-one years ago)
A school could help restore the reputation of the notorious hooded top after making it part of its uniform.
Richard Haigh, principal of Coombeshead College, Newton Abbot, Devon, has criticised "hysterical" stereotyping of 'hoodie' wearers as thugs.
"Most young people are fine, upstanding citizens, and some of them wear hoodies. Why should they be tarred with this rather hysterical brush?" he said.
Bluewater shopping centre, Greenhithe, Kent, last week banned hooded tops.
This was part of a new code of conduct for visitors aimed at tackling anti-social behaviour at the complex.
"It's the behaviour that's the problem, not the clothing," Mr Haigh said on Thursday.
He added: "If you know how young people's minds work, the best way of encouraging them to do something is to ban it.
"The more fuss we make about hoodies and baseball caps, the more a certain type of young person will want to wear them."
Hooded tops have been part of the uniform at Coombeshead College, a 1,600-strong media and arts college, for two years.
Between 10 and 15% of students wear them, the headmaster estimated.
They are only allowed to put up the hoods when it is raining.
In a letter that he described as "tongue in cheek" to the Times on Wednesday, Mr Haigh wrote: "I am disappointed by the lack of subtlety in dealing with the hoodie problem.
"Follow our example and make them part of school uniform. How uncool does that make them?"
― Nick & Buzz, Thursday, 19 May 2005 14:22 (twenty-one years ago)
― $V£N! (blueski), Thursday, 19 May 2005 14:24 (twenty-one years ago)
― On one hand I've got myself to blame (Lynskey), Thursday, 19 May 2005 15:00 (twenty-one years ago)
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I wonder how many more bad puns the press will come up with before this fad is over.
― Repressed Kid, Friday, 20 May 2005 00:39 (twenty-one years ago)
TEENAGER Melissa Fletcher was banned from a shopping centre because of her Goth fashion.
Security guards stopped the 16-year-old at the entrance, saying her dyed red and black hair, pierced lip and black clothes would put shoppers off buying.
Yet Melissa had no trouble getting in earlier that day when accompanied by her mum.
Melissa was with two 16-year-old friends at the Triangle complex in Manchester city centre.
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Her mother Sharon, 34, of Denton, Greater Manchester, said yesterday: "Melissa does not drink, smoke or take drugs.
"She knows what is right and what is wrong but dressing differently is no reason to be singled out.
"Melissa had money in her pockets to spend but she did not even get through the front door.
"The security guard told me later that he was under strict orders not to let them in because of the way they looked."
Melissa, a pupil at Egerton Park High School in Denton, said she would not be returning to the complex. She added: "I think it is discriminatory."
A spokesman for the centre said: "If it is believed the behaviour of some is likely to compromise the safety or enjoyment of others, then the Triangle is able to reserve the right to refuse admission."
The ban comes after Bluewater complex in Kent outlawed youngsters in hooded tops to stop families being intimidated by gangs.
Bosses claimed visitor numbers rocketed 23 per cent as a result.
Manchester's Trafford Centre, the Elephant and Castle complex in South London and shops in Liverpool have also banned hoodies.
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― Repressed Kid, Tuesday, 7 June 2005 16:17 (twenty-one years ago)
― dog latin (dog latin), Tuesday, 7 June 2005 16:47 (twenty-one years ago)
― Repressed Kid, Tuesday, 7 June 2005 17:32 (twenty-one years ago)
Easyinternetcafes - owned by Stelios Haji-Ioannou, the founder of low cost airline Easyjet - claims the headgear is linked with "deviant" behaviour.
The ban on wearing caps is to be piloted at the chain's branches in Edinburgh and Glasgow.
If the trial is successful, it will be introduced in all 41 Easyinternetcafes across the UK.
The chain's management claimed people in baseball caps made other customers feel uncomfortable and that wearers were difficult to identify on CCTV.
James Rothnie, the firm's director of corporate affairs, said the ban had been introduced after a spate of thefts.
'Anti-social'
He told The Sunday Times: "We want to make sure that our cafes are places where customers can relax and feel secure.
"Since deviant behaviour can be associated with the wearing of baseball caps we are politely asking people who enter our premises not to wear caps.
"This policy is designed to combat anti-social behaviour such as theft."
Bluewater shopping centreThe Bluewater hoodie ban sparked a national debate
This week Paisley became the first town centre in Britain to ban youths wearing hooded tops from all of its major stores.
Earlier this year, Prime Minister Tony Blair backed a ban on hoodies at the Bluewater shopping centre in Kent.
A Bluewater spokeswoman said on Sunday that the move had proved to be a "successful policy".
"I think what we have seen is groups of youths do not hang around the centre as they may have done before.
"Basically it gives out the signal to the vast majority of shoppers that it is a good place to come and shop and have a good time.
"It was good for Bluewater but I do not think the centre would offer advice to any other business as to how to run their services."
― Last Of The Famous International Pfunkboys (Kerr), Sunday, 18 December 2005 21:45 (twenty years ago)
― Last Of The Famous International Pfunkboys (Kerr), Monday, 19 December 2005 04:11 (twenty years ago)
When you go to pick up said geezers from their digs, present each one with a complimentary hoodie and baseball cap. have each of your youthful volunteers wear an identical cap and hoodie. Emblazon these paraphernalia with charitable slogans such as "Jesus Loves Us All!"
Have your youthful volunteers help all the geezers into their gear. Invite the news media and tip them off. Bring the geezers to the mall, suitably accoutered. Meet the media. March to the offices of the management and defy their fucking stupid ban with the cameras rolling!
Checkmate.
― Aimless (Aimless), Monday, 19 December 2005 04:29 (twenty years ago)
I can understand them making kids take off the caps. I can understand them saying don't wear hoods up. But banning them completely is stupid.especially as the same people could just wear tshirts or tracksuits or any form of clothing and still cause the same amount of bother.
― Last Of The Famous International Pfunkboys (Kerr), Monday, 19 December 2005 04:54 (twenty years ago)
I mean, the hoodie is the basic essential clothing I use to get around the very London-esque weather in this town. I'm not wearing a knitted sweater and carrying an umbrella the next time I'm over there, sorry.
― dali madison's nut (donut), Monday, 19 December 2005 05:08 (twenty years ago)
― emsk ( emsk), Monday, 19 December 2005 09:00 (twenty years ago)
― ailsa (ailsa), Monday, 19 December 2005 09:40 (twenty years ago)
― emsk ( emsk), Monday, 19 December 2005 09:47 (twenty years ago)
Well, granted, it is %^$%^Exclaim#$%$%$ magazine, but from the Lady Sovereign interview I read, the article writer and Lady S make it sound like the entirety of the UK has declared war on "the hoodie"... I should know better than to make ass umptions based on that article.
― dali madison's nut (donut), Monday, 19 December 2005 10:31 (twenty years ago)
I know it's only a matter of time now until it spreads to our joke of a shopping centre in my town.
― Last Of The Famous International Pfunkboys (Kerr), Monday, 19 December 2005 11:02 (twenty years ago)
With added bonus that it would probably put the antisocial types off of wearing hoodies!
― Onimo (GerryNemo), Monday, 19 December 2005 11:39 (twenty years ago)
― Hairy Asshurt (Toaster), Monday, 19 December 2005 16:41 (twenty years ago)
― Last Of The Famous International Pfunkboys (Kerr), Monday, 19 December 2005 16:44 (twenty years ago)
― Hairy Asshurt (Toaster), Monday, 19 December 2005 16:45 (twenty years ago)
― Last Of The Famous International Pfunkboys (Kerr), Monday, 19 December 2005 16:46 (twenty years ago)
― Hairy Asshurt (Toaster), Monday, 19 December 2005 16:46 (twenty years ago)
― Last Of The Famous International Pfunkboys (Kerr), Monday, 19 December 2005 16:47 (twenty years ago)
― ailsa (ailsa), Monday, 19 December 2005 16:50 (twenty years ago)
― Sororah T Massacre (blueski), Monday, 19 December 2005 16:51 (twenty years ago)
http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/41138000/jpg/_41138786_nohatsign203.jpg
― Last Of The Famous International Pfunkboys (Kerr), Monday, 19 December 2005 22:49 (twenty years ago)
This is a nice hint at subversion here. People who engage in criminal activity should iconify things that are practical in daily life, like CAR or WALKING icons. Therefore cars or pedestrians will be banned from certain places, if the people who run the places are loonie enough.
― dali madison's nut (donut), Tuesday, 20 December 2005 00:44 (twenty years ago)
― Last Of The Famous International Pfunkboys (Kerr), Tuesday, 20 December 2005 01:05 (twenty years ago)
Loving the caption on the top pic.
― Hello Sunshine (Hello Sunshine), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 06:04 (twenty years ago)
― DOQQUN (donut), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 06:13 (twenty years ago)