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Or am I wrong in thinking this doesn't make a damn lick of sense?

"During the normal course of monitoring to safeguard our business and customer information, we learned that you have music files, e.g. MP3 files, stored on your computer. These files put COPORATION X at risk for potential virus situations and may also present potential copyright issues, both of which can cause negative financial and customer impacts. Please remove all MP3 files from your computer immediately. A follow-up will be performed on or after May 28, 2005 to ensure all files have been removed."

David R. (popshots75`), Friday, 13 May 2005 19:49 (twenty-one years ago)

yikes man

rasheed wallace (rasheed wallace), Friday, 13 May 2005 19:51 (twenty-one years ago)

My response to the governing body what dictates this sort of stuff:

"I received an e-mail re: the discovery of MP3 music files on my machine. These MP3s are from my music collection - I burned them onto CD-Rs (from CDs I have at home) to bring into work so I could listen to music while working. I copied these files from a CD-R onto my machine because I felt the sound of the CD-ROM drive spinning might be distracting to people working around me. (I have admin rights to my machine, as my job responsibilities dictate.) I fail to see how bringing music I paid for into work constitutes a "potential copyright issue", nor do I understand how this may cause "negative financial and customer impacts", nor do I feel it is necessary to delete this music from my hard drive."

Not that it's a big deal to just nuke the one folder where the offending music files reside, but, sheesh. I eagerly await the groupthink response.

David R. (popshots75`), Friday, 13 May 2005 19:52 (twenty-one years ago)

You work for Corporation X???
They make substandard products.

Huk-L, Friday, 13 May 2005 19:54 (twenty-one years ago)

You may soon learn that it's their computer and they can dictate whatever you can or cannot do to it, even if it doesn't make sense! I dunno, I'd have gone with a playing-innocent reply -- something like "oh, these are all from home -- do I really have to delete them?"

nabisco (nabisco), Friday, 13 May 2005 20:11 (twenty-one years ago)

I was recently advised to remove Mozilla Firefox from my machines as they present a security risk! Oy vey indeed.

gygax! (gygax!), Friday, 13 May 2005 20:13 (twenty-one years ago)

I was recently asked if the FTP program visibly downloading mp3s on my screen was, in fact, downloading mp3s. "That?" I said. "I don't know what that does, I think Saleem put it on before I started here."

nabisco (nabisco), Friday, 13 May 2005 20:29 (twenty-one years ago)

Haha, nabisco.

I was recently advised to remove Mozilla Firefox from my machines as they present a security risk! Oy vey indeed.

I was told the same thing by my I.T. guy. We finally compromised in that I have to keep Firefox hidden from everyone else.

Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Friday, 13 May 2005 21:12 (twenty-one years ago)

Is there any way in which Firefox does represent a security risk, though? Is it because the IT dudes are trained to think only in terms of IE, so anything strange automatically becomes a threat?

Our IT bloke, when he saw I'd downloaded Firefox at work, smiled, nodded and said "good move". (I seem to have admin status, which is odd but I'm not complaining)

Markelby (Mark C), Saturday, 14 May 2005 09:09 (twenty-one years ago)

we let people have iTunes music files on their macs at work with the explicit caveat that they should be able to produce the original CDs that they were ripped from. This is reasonable - we are just covering ourselves for copyright as per ANY files. We do the same for fonts, applications etc. Citing security considerations sounds like crap.

ja (_ja_), Saturday, 14 May 2005 09:21 (twenty-one years ago)

And from a corporate POV, the issue is usually that IE has to be used for licenscing issues. Im still not sure how opensource works in a corp network but i'm yet to work somewhere that openly embraces opensource. They lpve their Exchange/Outlook/IE configs. They paid for em after all.

Trayce (trayce), Saturday, 14 May 2005 10:36 (twenty-one years ago)

firefox does not as such represent much of a threat, but that you install software at all does. this is their fault though. most companies "acceptable use policy" would forbid anyone but authorised users installing software.

ja (_ja_), Saturday, 14 May 2005 12:03 (twenty-one years ago)

Im still not sure how opensource works in a corp network but i'm yet to work somewhere that openly embraces opensource.

The place I worked at used to be an entire OSS shop. Did all my work on BSD machines running X.., it was heavenly and blissful. After they merged with another company we had to start developing under Microsoft's .NET platform which screwed things up mightily. :(

Andrew (enneff), Saturday, 14 May 2005 12:08 (twenty-one years ago)

My company has lots of open source, too- we work on linux, use emacs/vi, pine, firefox- it's beautiful. We have Windows for the people who are more comfortable on that, but in our software world, it's all linux. I don't think I'd be able to get anything done without X anymore, I'm so spoiled by having multiple desktop windows to organize all my windows into.

lyra (lyra), Saturday, 14 May 2005 13:43 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah, I should've taken Nabisco's approach. Not that it would've gotten the desired results, but it would've been more diplomatic than me tucking my hand into my shirt and getting all snooty and French about things.

According to the powers that be, this whole thing comes down to 3 things: VOLUME, SECURITY RISKS, and LICENSING ISSUES.

1) VOLUME - you put too much skeez on your hard drive, it's hard for "business-critical" updates to be added to your PC, which creates SECURITY RISK etc etc. (Of course, if you have trouble installing software on a harddrive that has TEN GIGS free, then, you know, you stupid.)

2) SECURITY RISKS - Any unauthorized software yadda yadda virus yadda SECURITY RISK. Which is funny, as I'm running these very same files on my PC, and I don't have any viruses or such @ all (aside from Bonzi Buddy, which I love).

3) LICENSING ISSUES - Installing music or movie files, quoth the script, is illegal, as CORPORATION X does not have a license to run it. But is that really how it works? And how is running an MP3 from my harddrive any different than playing a CD in the CD-ROM drive?

Anyway, they say I can bring CDs to work to listen to, or purchase an MP3 player, which is nice of them to suggest. (Thanks CORPORATION X!) But, y'know, I'm tempted to "escalate" this to my manager, just for giggles.

I don't think I can even access Mozilla's site from my PC! CORPORATION X sucks (and not just because of their substandard product)!

David R. (popshots75`), Tuesday, 17 May 2005 17:20 (twenty-one years ago)

"both of which can cause negative financial and customer impacts"

Corporation X are Japanese, right? I mean, English isn't their first language, surely?

mei (mei), Tuesday, 17 May 2005 18:41 (twenty-one years ago)

You might also like to point out that MP3s are data, not software. And an MP3 player, which is software, probably came with the OS.

mei (mei), Tuesday, 17 May 2005 18:42 (twenty-one years ago)

well we here at Corporation Y eagerly await your negligence-induced downfall, arrogant fools!

andrew m. (andrewmorgan), Tuesday, 17 May 2005 18:47 (twenty-one years ago)

Corporation X is Corporation Speed's mysterious half brother. Oh, you're not supposed to know that.

diedre mousedropping and a quarter (Dave225), Tuesday, 17 May 2005 18:54 (twenty-one years ago)

I should inform them that this MP3 conundrum has worried me so that I'm unable to focus on work and give 110% to my job-related tasks. I am letting CORPORATION X down. (Me almost typing CORPORATINO X ever time doesn't help matters.)

Also - is "escalate" the lamest corporation co-opted word / notion ever? "I'm going to escalate this request and talk to my manager" = "I'm going to talk to my manager, but POINT A LOT!"

David R. (popshots75`), Tuesday, 17 May 2005 18:57 (twenty-one years ago)

I was hoping this thread was about photocopying ass cheeks.

The Sensational Sulk (sexyDancer), Tuesday, 17 May 2005 18:59 (twenty-one years ago)

i'm totally installing firefox right now. i don't know why i didn't think of it sooner.

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 17 May 2005 19:00 (twenty-one years ago)

i was hoping this would be about when i go "sure, i'll go run this or that errand, i'll be back in an hour" and then i go get a beer.

andrew m. (andrewmorgan), Tuesday, 17 May 2005 19:03 (twenty-one years ago)

Andrew, that's a SMART Work Trick. Like leaving your cube to go to the bathroom, and then going straight from the can to FREEDOM (after washing your hands, of course).

David R. (popshots75`), Tuesday, 17 May 2005 19:06 (twenty-one years ago)

well, slamming a scotch and a pint is great fun if you've only got an hour of work left when you return. more than that and it's worse than before. it compounds the tedium and irriation. which can be stupid. so it's all about timing there.
i'd escape to freedom more often, but i have a time clock to contend with.

andrew m. (andrewmorgan), Tuesday, 17 May 2005 19:14 (twenty-one years ago)

This is why all your employers need to fire their douchebag CIOs whose strategic vision for information technology is to BUY BUY BUY from MR. GATES MR. GATES and are, therefore, completely incompetent at their jobs except for the part where you show up on time in off-the-rack suits and have a subscription to PC Magazine. Everybody working with IT at an executive level writing policy and wasting money, in my experience, is a 1980 graduate of some baccalureate electrical engineering or nascent computer science program who has become a total victim of the Peter Principle.

Ranting. Arrgh. Our incompentent unit chief just got promoted to section chief! Fuck up, Move up! I hate you, government.

My stupid work trick is that I spent all day today and almost all day yesterday submitting my resume to every place I could find and signing up for a technical job fair at the convention center tomorrow, and getting paid for it.

TOMBOT, Tuesday, 17 May 2005 22:48 (twenty-one years ago)

Guess what? I'm using Firefox right now, but because some numb-nuts somehow downloaded the aurora virus, I'm getting pop-ups from Internet Explorer!

Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Tuesday, 17 May 2005 22:57 (twenty-one years ago)

if they're scanning for mp3s rip everything to ogg or flac or (god forbid) wma. or get one ipod.

can firefox run from a usb key? startup might be a bit slow but the caching of pages etc should be ok as that'll still be on the hard drive.

koogs (koogs), Wednesday, 18 May 2005 14:01 (twenty-one years ago)

I can pretty much do what I like on my work PC. I have all of my photos on there & can download any progs that I like. Our sysadmin guys actively encourage use of firefox & mozilla. We are a software company, so perhaps that's why.

PinXorchiXoR (Pinkpanther), Wednesday, 18 May 2005 14:30 (twenty-one years ago)

Our systems are restricted to the max! Users can't even get into the control panel, all applications are accessed via separate servers. Which is a good thing. Most people on ilx seem to have a common sense about these things. Our average user, on the hand, does not. at all. whatsoever.

Ste (Fuzzy), Wednesday, 18 May 2005 14:39 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah, Koogs, I'm thinking the one iPod might be the way to go. (oooh earbuds how chi-chi)

Also, I'm not the one to know about these things, but I think the Bot is OTM about every damn thing.

[xpost]

Here at CORPORATION X, I had to get ADMIN RIGHTS to my machine because, without ADMIN RIGHTS, I was unable to browse the database I needed to work w/. Also here at CORPORATION X, it takes, on average, approximately 30 seconds for changes I make to a dinky little ASP file to get saved to the servers we access through our fancy "new" TOKEN RING NETWORK. Now, if you'll excuse me, I have some cards I need to punch.

David R. (popshots75`), Wednesday, 18 May 2005 14:42 (twenty-one years ago)

the 'other' hand

Ste (Fuzzy), Wednesday, 18 May 2005 14:43 (twenty-one years ago)

Most people on ilx seem to have a common sense about these things. Our average user, on the hand, does not. at all. whatsoever.

OTM! I'm amazed at some of the stuff users can do sometimes.

According to the powers that be, this whole thing comes down to 3 things: VOLUME, SECURITY RISKS, and LICENSING ISSUES.

1) VOLUME - you put too much skeez on your hard drive, it's hard for "business-critical" updates to be added to your PC, which creates SECURITY RISK etc etc. (Of course, if you have trouble installing software on a harddrive that has TEN GIGS free, then, you know, you stupid.)

We get around this an easy way: every new desktop machine that comes in gets its primary partition resized down to about 8Gb. That should be plenty of space for anything anybody ever needs to do. If someone fills their disk up with crap - and they do - then we can whinge at them, but if the stuff on their disk generally *is* important then they still have lots of pristine, unused, inaccessible gigs which we can open up for use.

The rule of thumb, of course, is that the higher up someone is in the company, the more (non-work-related) crap they shovel on to their machines. Our MD, for example, has Everquest on his.

caitlin (caitlin), Wednesday, 18 May 2005 15:04 (twenty-one years ago)

[Hey caitlin, you're back. How was camping? Did you update your thread?]

Archel (Archel), Wednesday, 18 May 2005 15:11 (twenty-one years ago)

work trick: pic-less, pop-up-less erotica. and make the text small so passers-by don't do doubletakes or whatnot.

andrew m. (andrewmorgan), Wednesday, 18 May 2005 15:31 (twenty-one years ago)

maybe that's another smart work trick, though.

andrew m. (andrewmorgan), Wednesday, 18 May 2005 15:32 (twenty-one years ago)

firefox can run from a usb, there's a special version, you can google around for it.

teeny (teeny), Wednesday, 18 May 2005 15:45 (twenty-one years ago)

[Hey caitlin, you're back. How was camping? Did you update your thread?]

[I'm back! I wasn't sure whether to come back to ILX at all, but it was kind of irristable. Camping was good!]

firefox can run from a usb, there's a special version, you can google around for it.

Some people at work - ones who are particularly unpopular with my boss, mostly - have had all the USB ports on their computers disabled to stop them doing this sort of thing.

(OK, not to stop them running Firefox - we applaud that - but to stop them bringing in their own USB devices and messing about)

caitlin (caitlin), Wednesday, 18 May 2005 17:59 (twenty-one years ago)

can firefox run from a usb key? startup might be a bit slow but the caching of pages etc should be ok as that'll still be on the hard drive.

-- koogs (il...), May 18th, 2005.

Fox in a Box.

I use it, I love it. We don't have admin rights on our PCs, we do have an IT sanctioned copy of Firefox (I was so pleased by this). IT hasn't been patching it though, I can update the keydrive verison with impunity. I keep Winamp on there too.

Ash (ashbyman), Wednesday, 18 May 2005 22:02 (twenty-one years ago)


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