"A girl with more male friends than female ones is destined to screw you over. If her own species don't trust her neither should you..."

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(As found on the holymoly rules of life board.)

Not sure I agree entirely but my personal experiences suggest there may be a grain of truth in this 'un.

Agree/Disagree?

― baddabingbaddaboom (uptoeleven), Monday, 16 May 2005 22:07 (twenty-one years ago)

"A girl with more male friends than female ones is destined to screw you.."

That's how it should read. Girls that say "dude" alot are easier.

― andy --, Monday, 16 May 2005 22:09 (twenty-one years ago)

The original statement is complete bullcrap. And since when does a gender = a species?

― $V£N! (blueski), Monday, 16 May 2005 22:13 (twenty-one years ago)

Reductionist flapdoodle.

― M. White (Miguelito), Monday, 16 May 2005 22:16 (twenty-one years ago)

I bet a girl wrote that quote.

― Trayce (trayce), Monday, 16 May 2005 22:20 (twenty-one years ago)

In my experience, the opposite is true, but hey, it's kind of an individual thing, right?

― kirsten (kirsten), Monday, 16 May 2005 22:22 (twenty-one years ago)

what about a guy with more female friends than male ones?

― hstencil (hstencil), Monday, 16 May 2005 22:22 (twenty-one years ago)

Gay as a window.

― $V£N! (blueski), Monday, 16 May 2005 22:26 (twenty-one years ago)

The quote is backwards too. I can only speak for myself, but I have more male friends not because women dont trust me, but because *I* don't trust many women I've met :/

― Trayce (trayce), Monday, 16 May 2005 22:27 (twenty-one years ago)

exactly, stevem.

― hstencil (hstencil), Monday, 16 May 2005 22:27 (twenty-one years ago)

quote above = bullshit obv, but what abt this one: "when yr out and you see a group equal to or more than six (6) ppl of the same gender, with none of the opposite gender, you should avoid them all."

― g e o f f (gcannon), Monday, 16 May 2005 22:27 (twenty-one years ago)

In my experience, the opposite is true, but hey, it's kind of an individual thing, right?
-- kirsten

Same here, but as you say it's probably an individual thing. I mean, thinking of the women I know, it's the ones with lots of male friends who are (coincidentally or not) the ones who have a reputation for being straight up.

I have also noticed that it's the women who have equal numbers of male and female friends who get accused of liking men more than women - by women who have no male friends.

As for men who only hang out with men, and women who only hang out with women, my hard earned advice is: steer clear.

― moley, Monday, 16 May 2005 22:31 (twenty-one years ago)

what about men who hang women, and women who hang men.

what if you're the one that's hung?

― donut debonair (donut), Monday, 16 May 2005 22:40 (twenty-one years ago)

everyone will be hung for at least 15 minutes.

― donut debonair (donut), Monday, 16 May 2005 22:40 (twenty-one years ago)

hanged like a horse

― grammar jokes, yeah. (gcannon), Monday, 16 May 2005 22:43 (twenty-one years ago)

In my experience, the opposite is true, but hey, it's kind of an individual thing, right?

I'd agree, though.

― Leon Federline (Ex Leon), Monday, 16 May 2005 23:15 (twenty-one years ago)

What about guys who have mostly female friends (who have mostly guy friends)?

― milozauckerman (miloaukerman), Monday, 16 May 2005 23:19 (twenty-one years ago)

What about girls who are boys who like boys to be girls who do boys like they’re girls who do girls like they’re boys?

― donut debonair (donut), Monday, 16 May 2005 23:22 (twenty-one years ago)

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― Dave M. (rotten03), Monday, 16 May 2005 23:23 (twenty-one years ago)

The quote is backwards too. I can only speak for myself, but I have more male friends not because women dont trust me, but because *I* don't trust many women I've met :/

-- Trayce (spamspanke...), May 16th, 2005.

that's the first thing that popped into my head when i read the title!

― tehresa (tehresa), Monday, 16 May 2005 23:29 (twenty-one years ago)

All that having more female friends than male friends tells you is that you've found more female friends you can trust to lean on and rely upon in the darkest of your moments. This is true in my case, not because I'm shifty or special but rather because I have the gigantic misfortune to live in a city filled with overtestosteronated males, the narrowminded sort who don't want to talk to you unless you fill their tightly-bound ideas of what they consider to be approachable, as in they want to actually approach you. Those of you with more male friends than female ones might be lucky enough to live in areas with more open-minded and accepting males or you might be unlucky enough to live in areas with high concentrations of backstabbing females, but even to this day I'm better able to express myself to a female than I am to a male because of all those negative experiences I've had before in the past wrt males.

So "a girl with more [one gender] friends than [another gender] ones is destined to screw you over" statements are baseless.

― Goodbye Indian Summer (Dee the Lurker), Monday, 16 May 2005 23:57 (twenty-one years ago)

(FYI: In my city, a male only wants to get to know you if he considers you attractive enough to sleep with. Obv there are going to be exceptions, but I have yet to find any IRL.)

― Goodbye Indian Summer (Dee the Lurker), Monday, 16 May 2005 23:59 (twenty-one years ago)

("you" being the female "you.)

― Goodbye Indian Summer (Dee the Lurker), Monday, 16 May 2005 23:59 (twenty-one years ago)

Isn't San Antonio like the 8th largest city in the US?

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 17 May 2005 00:03 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm quite rankled at the "her own species" bit of the quote. I know, I know, its just some stupid list but argh.

― Trayce (trayce), Tuesday, 17 May 2005 00:05 (twenty-one years ago)

what about men who hang women, and women who hang men.
what if you're the one that's hung?
-- donut debonair (do...), May 16th, 2005.
everyone will be hung for at least 15 minutes.
-- donut debonair (do...), May 16th, 2005.

hanged like a horse

Couldn't be any more well-hung, then. *groan*

― ... And suddenly Ian Riese-Moraine is a naked man saying, 'Volvo! Volvo!' (Easte, Tuesday, 17 May 2005 00:12 (twenty-one years ago)

My high school girlfriend had more male friends than female. She more or less loathed other women, actually, with very few exceptions. She dumped my ass.

― Ian John50n (orion), Tuesday, 17 May 2005 00:34 (twenty-one years ago)

When did I date you again, Ian?

― Trayce (trayce), Tuesday, 17 May 2005 00:36 (twenty-one years ago)

Last Tuesday. You were the one in the doggy suit and I was dressed like Max in Where the Wild Things Are. Oh wait, you meant the other Ian...

― ... And suddenly Ian Riese-Moraine is a naked man saying, 'Volvo! Volvo!' (Easte, Tuesday, 17 May 2005 00:37 (twenty-one years ago)

I kind of wish I hadn't now!

― Trayce (trayce), Tuesday, 17 May 2005 00:38 (twenty-one years ago)

Isn't San Antonio like the 8th largest city in the US?

Yeah. That just means there are a lot of males here who are like that. Oh, and I meant males who are around the same age I am or who are younger. The only decent males out there in this area are in my mom's age range, i.e. perfect candidates for HER.

― Goodbye Indian Summer (Dee the Lurker), Tuesday, 17 May 2005 01:20 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm not friends with a lot of women because, unfortunately, most of the women I've met have tended to fall into that "shoe-shopping-chocolate-grubbing" category so often stereotyped by the likes of Lifetime and, I don't know, The Man Show, alike. I do not get along well with people like this.
I would not get along well with a man who got pissed off when I didn't want to hear about the new pants he bought, who expected me to bring him cheesecake when he was having a bad day, or who didn't understand 'I would like to get off the phone now' signals. I tend to get along better with people who couldn't care less about hair or clothes, who like to barbecue, who don't mind spending an entire afternoon fishing, or drinking beer in an alley. And, in my experience, most of the people I have met who are like this are men. There have been a few really, really cool girls, though.
Anyway. I know what I like, and I'm honest. I suppose that's more than can be said for a lot of people, female or male. So, no. I'm not about to screw anyone over.

― kirsten (kirsten), Tuesday, 17 May 2005 02:13 (twenty-one years ago)

is is strange, to call women "females" or a woman a "female"?

― RJG (RJG), Tuesday, 17 May 2005 02:15 (twenty-one years ago)

Yes, Richard.

― kirsten (kirsten), Tuesday, 17 May 2005 02:16 (twenty-one years ago)

since that could have been "it is" or "is it", as well as "is is" or "it it" or "no no", I wonder what my opinion is or it.

crosspost

― RJG (RJG), Tuesday, 17 May 2005 02:17 (twenty-one years ago)

what about "males" or "male"? for men or a man.

― RJG (RJG), Tuesday, 17 May 2005 02:17 (twenty-one years ago)

Well, I figured it must be "is it", due to the question mark.
And no, it's not weird to call a man a "male".

― kirsten (kirsten), Tuesday, 17 May 2005 02:18 (twenty-one years ago)

can you explain that?

― RJG (RJG), Tuesday, 17 May 2005 02:20 (twenty-one years ago)

Please don't ask me to.

― kirsten (kirsten), Tuesday, 17 May 2005 02:21 (twenty-one years ago)

can you explain that.

― RJG (RJG), Tuesday, 17 May 2005 02:21 (twenty-one years ago)

That does not look like a question. PHEW.

― kirsten (kirsten), Tuesday, 17 May 2005 02:22 (twenty-one years ago)

you can't explain it is a kind of explanation, I suppose.

: /

― RJG (RJG), Tuesday, 17 May 2005 02:24 (twenty-one years ago)

Beedlebee? Perhaps?

― kirsten (kirsten), Tuesday, 17 May 2005 02:25 (twenty-one years ago)

RJG confuses, me.

― Trayce (trayce), Tuesday, 17 May 2005 02:26 (twenty-one years ago)

Trayce, I, agreed with, you, upthread.

― kirsten (kirsten), Tuesday, 17 May 2005 02:27 (twenty-one years ago)

but what abt this one: "when yr out and you see a group equal to or more than six (6) ppl of the same gender, with none of the opposite gender, you should avoid them all."

OTM if you're straight. But if you're gay then you should run to the market and get a fresh bottle of lube

― phil-two (phil-two), Tuesday, 17 May 2005 02:50 (twenty-one years ago)

hahahaha, what's more important, the lub or the bottle

― Rock Hardy (Rock Hardy), Tuesday, 17 May 2005 02:53 (twenty-one years ago)

oh my bad

― Rock Hardy (Rock Hardy), Tuesday, 17 May 2005 02:54 (twenty-one years ago)

totally otm, except in my case i've met quite a few non-stereotypical, low-maintenance, un-fussy females. and i highly approve of them. :-)

― cindy williams permafrost (Jody Beth Rosen), Tuesday, 17 May 2005 03:22 (twenty-one years ago)

Same here :) One female friend I do manage to get along famously with even calls herself a blokette.

― Trayce (trayce), Tuesday, 17 May 2005 03:24 (twenty-one years ago)

I always put my affable, more bloke than chick, get on with the guys thang to the fact I grew up with 2 brothers and no sisters.

― Trayce (trayce), Tuesday, 17 May 2005 03:25 (twenty-one years ago)

but it's been hard for me to have close, lasting female friendships, because the girls i make friends with are more into their own situations than being gossipy yentas who blather meaninglessly on the phone/AIM all the time.

― cindy williams permafrost (Jody Beth Rosen), Tuesday, 17 May 2005 03:27 (twenty-one years ago)

I grew up with 2 brothers and no sisters and I've always had many more close female than male friends (with the notable exception of one awesome ex-boyfriend). Not sure why, I guess I am sometimes a bit intimidated by guys and worse at starting conversations.

hey that was an embarrassing confession.

― Maria (Maria), Tuesday, 17 May 2005 04:12 (twenty-one years ago)

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― Amon (eman), Tuesday, 17 May 2005 04:16 (twenty-one years ago)

I always have ONE very close female friend who has my back and I have hers, through thick and thin-- and lots of guy friends.

― Orbit (Orbit), Tuesday, 17 May 2005 04:18 (twenty-one years ago)

"species" - wtf?

― spontine (cis), Tuesday, 17 May 2005 04:45 (twenty-one years ago)

Well, you know Cis, we are from Venus, after all.

― Liz :x (Liz :x), Tuesday, 17 May 2005 08:52 (twenty-one years ago)

I have some good female friends who are like this, who frequently even say things like "I don't like most women, I prefer male company," "I'm much less high-maintenance than women are, much more down-to-earth and all-these-other-GOOD-qualitles -that-MEN-are" and all that....and a part of me can't help but wonder if it's rooted in either a little bit of self-loathing or misogyny. Aside from a desire to subvert societal feminine models of behavior, consciously or not.

Cattiness, gossipping, backstabbing...as if only women are guilty of this? Ha

how man of these people are even comfortable feeling and being "female" in the first place? this reminds me of a recent biographical piece I was reading of the Empress NurJehan: she was very strong and "masculine," but not out of a desire to exert _feminine strength_ but rather because she had an irrepressibly deep desire to be male, and have all the societal powers that went with it, regarding all other women as weak creatures and pawns in her political games

― Vichitravirya XI, Tuesday, 17 May 2005 09:02 (twenty-one years ago)

gender roles are just a tremendous dud in general. it's okay to change the oil in your cars yourselves girls and not have to say "see i'm cooler since i hate shopping and am more like a MANG" - "real women" are allowed to know about cars too, but you never hear this hehe. why can't any good/cool things be associated with the simple essence of being female?

i am tired of women who hate other women and hate being a woman / womYn

― Vichitravirya XI, Tuesday, 17 May 2005 09:06 (twenty-one years ago)

what about a guy with more female friends than male ones?
-- hstencil (hstenc!...) (webmail), May 16th, 2005. (hstencil) (later)

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Gay as a window.
-- $V£N! (stevem7...) (webmail), May 16th, 2005. (blueski) (later)

Hey, I'm one!

― Tuomas (Tuomas), Tuesday, 17 May 2005 09:10 (twenty-one years ago)

Yikes.
I love being a woman, and I certainly don't think I'm cooler than anyone. When I hang out with guys, I do not pretend to be one of them, or wish to be one of them. I just enjoy being the girl in a group. I've found that most women I've met have been harder for me to have fun with than guys. Again, this is not because I think I'm "better" or "cooler" than most women. It's just the way it is for me.

― kirsten (kirsten), Tuesday, 17 May 2005 09:12 (twenty-one years ago)

That said, I wish I did know more women I had things in common with. And I have to say I really kind of resent being even indirectly called a misogynist.

― kirsten (kirsten), Tuesday, 17 May 2005 09:15 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah I didn't mean anyone on here in particular, just speaking in awfully awful generalizations. Sorry if I've offended you. BTW Kirsten, I still had your "a crap kind of story, maub" - story on my desktop until about a month ago. Sorry I never got to it but you should resend!

― Vichitravirya XI, Tuesday, 17 May 2005 09:17 (twenty-one years ago)

i think my (long-term) g/f probably has more male than female friends. i guess you'd have to ask her why, but it's a fuck of a lot more complex than any b/w trust issues. a part of me suspects it's to do with maintenance issues: i don't think it's totally out of line to generalise about women sometimes being more high-maintenance (within the confines of our society and all necessary provisos and get-out clauses).
but at the same time i think i have more female than male friends; again, the issues are complex: blokes can also be too high-maintenance, but in their own way, which doesn't suit me. but then i don't really form close friendships with people in general.

― N_RQ, Tuesday, 17 May 2005 09:18 (twenty-one years ago)

I didn't mean to call anyone a misogynist even indirectly, but I do think this line of thinking is interesting and worthy of closer examination, since it gives such a negative association to whatever is thought of as traditionally "female" behavior, and the opposite to male. I have a femae cousin who's like this as well, and who claims to just hate hanging out with women - but at heart I think she's lonely, and would like to find girl friends that she can trust again.

― Vichitravirya XI, Tuesday, 17 May 2005 09:20 (twenty-one years ago)

Um. I hope ppl don't think I was putting thins in black and wite terms, since I was not and i'm sorry if anyone misreads it that way

― Vichitravirya XI, Tuesday, 17 May 2005 09:22 (twenty-one years ago)

i wasn't calling you on bullshit there, just the thread proposition!

― N_RQ, Tuesday, 17 May 2005 09:23 (twenty-one years ago)

but at heart I think she's lonely, and would like to find girl friends that she can trust again.

-- Vichitravirya XI (x...), May 17th, 2005 5:20 AM. (later)

I'm sure there's a bit of this in me as well.
(And you didn't say anything inappropriate, it's okay. It's just 5:30 in the morning and I haven't had any coffee.)
Damn, I have to go to work now.

― kirsten (kirsten), Tuesday, 17 May 2005 09:23 (twenty-one years ago)

I think it is fine and well to have a preference as to who you like to hang around with. The one thing I will say is that it does anger me a lot when anyone says they prefer to hang out with men because men are funnier. No one on this thread has said that, but I have heard it a lot, and it is the least true thing ever. Maybe I should have thought of that for the Debunk Popular Myths About Women thread.

― Cathy (Cathy), Tuesday, 17 May 2005 09:35 (twenty-one years ago)

Perhaps they prefer to hang out with unfunny men. I might have a chance after all!

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Tuesday, 17 May 2005 09:36 (twenty-one years ago)

one thing i hate is when women get all smug and chip-shouldered about how not-hyperfeminine they are. i think most (straight and gay) men take it as a given that they're not too into clothes shopping for the hell of it, old-fashioned domesticity, etc, so they don't have to make a fuss about being this way. but lots of women with soi-disant "male" traits feel compelled to tell you that when it comes to those female stereotypes, they're NOT LIKE THAT AT ALL (just so you know).

being boyish in a man's world really isn't that great! no matter how strong you are, some man will still inevitably come along and insist on "helping you carry that" (look, i'm not a martyr, i just don't need help, ok?). and there's no such thing as "just one of the guys" (post obligatory movie pic): your male friends are well aware you're a chick, albeit a less fanciable one once the novelty of your liking Guy Things wears off.

― cindy williams permafrost (Jody Beth Rosen), Tuesday, 17 May 2005 10:24 (twenty-one years ago)

and i do love to shop and buy girly things. so there!

― cindy williams permafrost (Jody Beth Rosen), Tuesday, 17 May 2005 10:25 (twenty-one years ago)

Hey, I'm one!

-- Tuomas (tuomas.alh...), May 17th, 2005 6:10 AM. (Tuomas)

a talking window!

― Amon (eman), Tuesday, 17 May 2005 11:12 (twenty-one years ago)

Wow, that quote pisses me off so much. So painfully offbase. It assumes so many awful things - that whole "species" thing, that people of the same gender are obligated to be friends based entirely upon the assignation of their genitalia, it ignores situational stuff like say, all the women or men around you sucking, etc. So vexing.

― Matthew C Perpetua (inca), Tuesday, 17 May 2005 11:17 (twenty-one years ago)

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― Amon (eman), Tuesday, 17 May 2005 11:17 (twenty-one years ago)

Why is it so hard to imagine that people just like each other for being likeable and cool and having things in common rather than some bizarre gender unity thing? I feel so lucky to have never been socialized that way.

― Matthew C Perpetua (inca), Tuesday, 17 May 2005 11:21 (twenty-one years ago)

Maybe its because I have two sisters and grew up in a predominantly female household, but I think having female friendships is wonderful, and being friends with a guy just really doesn't.. come close. I have some male friends, but I seem to only be comfortable being friends with guys who are in relationships with my female friends. I am incredibly awkward and uncomfortable around single, available dudes.

also, I don't think you have to be a total vapid loser to care about clothes and makeup. I do, and I still care about, like, the world, and like, STUFF.

― jill schoelen is the queen of my dreams! (Homosexual II), Tuesday, 17 May 2005 11:21 (twenty-one years ago)

(xpost)

The problematic word in that first sentence is "cool" because it leads to all the misapprehensions detailed above.

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Tuesday, 17 May 2005 11:21 (twenty-one years ago)

I don't know, Marcello. Everyone I've ever liked, I liked because they were cool, regardless of gender.

― Matthew C Perpetua (inca), Tuesday, 17 May 2005 11:33 (twenty-one years ago)

I suppose the key thing would be that for me, I've always been the one to decide who and what is cool in my world, so it is a different thing for people who go on other people's definition of that concept.

― Matthew C Perpetua (inca), Tuesday, 17 May 2005 11:35 (twenty-one years ago)

I'v been screwed over by plenty of girls with mainly girl friends.

― Come Back Johnny B (Johnney B), Tuesday, 17 May 2005 11:38 (twenty-one years ago)

"Likeable" should be enough. "Cool" is a cancer. "Cool" is what stops anyone talking to anyone else. "Cool" is the Kapitalist barrier which shuts out a million other universes.

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Tuesday, 17 May 2005 11:40 (twenty-one years ago)

I have some male friends, but I seem to only be comfortable being friends with guys who are in relationships with my female friends.

Mandee, when I was last single and unhappy, you were a wonderful (if geographically distant) friend to me!

― Markelby (Mark C), Tuesday, 17 May 2005 11:47 (twenty-one years ago)

I get along better with men, on a superficial level. I am much better at small talk with men - most of my interests & my way of thinking etc. are what would be traditionally considered as more stereotypically male.

However, all my closest, longest serving, and bestest friends are female. I still don't know how to small talk with women though.

I find that with women who have similar interests to me, we are unable to have conversations/debates without things getting snarky and bitchy. It's very weird. I think I am the same.

It's almost like there isn't a set of social rules for how females can discuss things like computers, religion, quantum physics, linguistics, politics etc. amongst themselves and so it quickly goes pear-shaped.

I find that with the same women, we can have very harmonious friendships so long as we interact only within tradionally female spheres.

― miele kitty (miele), Tuesday, 17 May 2005 12:29 (twenty-one years ago)

I don't understand this at all. What kind of social rules do you want for conversations between women which vary from the social rules (whatever these are) for conversations between men, men and women, adults and children, whoever? It seems very odd to compartmentalise people.

― Liz :x (Liz :x), Tuesday, 17 May 2005 12:34 (twenty-one years ago)

"Cool" is a cancer. "Cool" is what stops anyone talking to anyone else.

Sure, that's true if you're not the person defining your own parameters of what cool is. Cool may as well be synonymous with likeable in the context of my life.

― Matthew C Perpetua (inca), Tuesday, 17 May 2005 12:58 (twenty-one years ago)

I identify with a lot of what miele kitty said, only vice versa. Certainly the first two paragraphs.

I find that with men, there is an unspoken competition present in so much interaction, whether it's about sports teams, girls, taste in music, jobs, friends, the whole lot. With women, there are very few circumstances in which this sense of competition (which may be mainly in my head - and it grows and fades mostly with my moods, which implies maybe it is) exists.

(I'm trying to think if I've had any big shouty ILX rows with women. Not sure I can think of any, other than Kate :))

― Markelby (Mark C), Tuesday, 17 May 2005 14:17 (twenty-one years ago)

Are there social rules for discussing computers, religion, etc among men? I mostly talk about religion and politics in the above categories, but my conversations with men aren't noticeably different from my conversations with women.

I can definitely see the females-are-bitchy-and-catty stereotype playing out many groups of girls, and I have seen that that's made some women say "I'd rather hang out with guys, women are awful." They've got a point, but an all-female group of friends doesn't have to be like that, though. I've never had friendships like that, just looked on. My friendships are much more low-key, no talking behind people's backs or stealing their boyfriends or whatever. (We're also about as oblivious to all that as guys.)

― Maria (Maria), Tuesday, 17 May 2005 14:20 (twenty-one years ago)

Likeable" should be enough. "Cool" is a cancer. "Cool" is what stops anyone talking to anyone else. "Cool" is the Kapitalist barrier which shuts out a million other universes.

i should imagine Matthew defines 'cool' as decent, likeable, friendly, as opposed to how much the subject reminds him of the Fonz (eyyyy)

― stevie (stevie), Tuesday, 17 May 2005 14:56 (twenty-one years ago)

With women, there are very few circumstances in which this sense of competition (which may be mainly in my head - and it grows and fades mostly with my moods, which implies maybe it is) exists.

You mean the Smack The Pony team have been lying to me all this time? Bah.

― $V£N! (blueski), Tuesday, 17 May 2005 15:05 (twenty-one years ago)

Cool also covers a lot "is interesting, not an asshole, smart and thoughtful, has taste I can respect" etc.

― Matthew C Perpetua (inca), Tuesday, 17 May 2005 15:29 (twenty-one years ago)

Well I don't know, I haven't studied it, nor have I read any studies on it, but I'm pretty sure that <generalisation>there are observable and obvious differences</generalisation> in the way men interact with men compared to the way men interact with women, compared to the way women interact with men, compared to the way women interact with women.

It is my experience that men are less inclined to get snarky and bitchy and make personal attacks during such conversations (unless alcohol is involved, of course!). This is regardless of whether they are conversing with other men or with women. Also, women tend not to do it towards men as much as towards other women.

― miele kitty (miele), Wednesday, 18 May 2005 13:08 (twenty-one years ago)

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