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is anyone watching this?

maria tessa sciarrino (theoreticalgirl), Wednesday, 18 May 2005 00:29 (twenty-one years ago)

oh, its awful.

maria tessa sciarrino (theoreticalgirl), Wednesday, 18 May 2005 00:29 (twenty-one years ago)


i really hope this thread doesnt die, because this show is something else.


this is an example of someone in the age of reality TV stardom trying to take creative control. im not sure if i even understand the implications of this. Yeah, the show is awful, but its a new, possibly even important kind of awful.

JD from CDepot, Wednesday, 18 May 2005 01:12 (twenty-one years ago)

Details please!

Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 18 May 2005 01:18 (twenty-one years ago)

Is that the new single? Is it a duet?

donut debonair (donut), Wednesday, 18 May 2005 01:21 (twenty-one years ago)

the name of their sprog?

gem (trisk), Wednesday, 18 May 2005 01:21 (twenty-one years ago)

http://www.loresdelsith.net/universo/alirep/bin/yodamace.jpg

Jimmy Mod, Sultan of Sexxitime (ModJ), Wednesday, 18 May 2005 01:22 (twenty-one years ago)

On the commercial, it said something about these two being "America's most talked about couple," and I said, "Really?" and my boyfriend said, "You have no idea." I guess I don't. But I just have a hard time understanding how this could possibly be interesting.

kirsten (kirsten), Wednesday, 18 May 2005 01:22 (twenty-one years ago)

I am no fun!

kirsten (kirsten), Wednesday, 18 May 2005 01:25 (twenty-one years ago)

i guess that all depends on how you define fun. personally i don't see too much fun in watching the brit & kev circus either.

gem (trisk), Wednesday, 18 May 2005 01:26 (twenty-one years ago)

Enough for me: I saw the commercial with Britney, mascara running down her cheeks, staring at the camera, muttering "Can you handle my truth?"
NOOOOO. Clearly.

kirsten (kirsten), Wednesday, 18 May 2005 01:29 (twenty-one years ago)

It's as much of a genre fest as watching sf movies or the like, this kinda thing.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 18 May 2005 01:33 (twenty-one years ago)

When is reality TV going to die?

kirsten (kirsten), Wednesday, 18 May 2005 01:34 (twenty-one years ago)

And, more importantly, when are borderline-washed-up (or completely washed-up) celebrities going to learn to value their pride?
I realize these are stupid questions. I am drinking something weird and purportedly Polish.

kirsten (kirsten), Wednesday, 18 May 2005 01:37 (twenty-one years ago)

yeah what is with hasbeens trying to desperately retain some skerrick of their crappy fame? here in australia there is some show just starting called 'celebrity circus' where a whole lot of people who are purportedly famous (half of whom are totally unknown to me) learn circus tricks? can they not see how pathetic they look?

gem (trisk), Wednesday, 18 May 2005 01:41 (twenty-one years ago)

I would probably like to see a show called Media Circus where Tucker Carlson sticks a flaming sword down his throat, then pulls it out, then sticks it down again.
Bowties LOOSED.
But yeah, it's fucked on up.

kirsten (kirsten), Wednesday, 18 May 2005 01:46 (twenty-one years ago)


this is an example of someone in the age of reality TV stardom trying to take creative control. im not sure if i even understand the implications of this. Yeah, the show is awful, but its a new, possibly even important kind of awful.

Details for the TV-less among us?

lyra (lyra), Wednesday, 18 May 2005 01:51 (twenty-one years ago)

this is an example of someone in the age of reality TV stardom trying to take creative control. im not sure if i even understand the implications of this. Yeah, the show is awful, but its a new, possibly even important kind of awful.

well, if they are controlling the image, does that still make it reality television?

maria tessa sciarrino (theoreticalgirl), Wednesday, 18 May 2005 01:56 (twenty-one years ago)

surely all of it is completely controlled in every sort of reality television? viewers only see it after editing, so it is never 'reality', it is only the 'reality' that the producers choose to broadcast

gem (trisk), Wednesday, 18 May 2005 01:59 (twenty-one years ago)

I am drinking something weird and purportedly Polish.

I was thinking you meant you drank polish, like floor polish! hehe.

Trayce (trayce), Wednesday, 18 May 2005 02:00 (twenty-one years ago)

Well, sure, but still. It's in its own genre, and even if it's not entirely "unscripted," it's a far cry from a sitcom. At least intention-wise.

kirsten (kirsten), Wednesday, 18 May 2005 02:01 (twenty-one years ago)

true true, of course it is within the genre of reality tv. i just have problems with that label because it fails so comprehensively to describe the actual content.

gem (trisk), Wednesday, 18 May 2005 02:03 (twenty-one years ago)

Hah, Trayce! No, it's actually this really molassesy stuff my brother just brought over. 9.4% alcohol by volume, which is a lot for my fussy American stomach.

kirsten (kirsten), Wednesday, 18 May 2005 02:04 (twenty-one years ago)

Sorry for putting beer stuff on a TV thread.

kirsten (kirsten), Wednesday, 18 May 2005 02:07 (twenty-one years ago)

Is the beer Hevelius Kaper?

mjfan, Wednesday, 18 May 2005 02:08 (twenty-one years ago)

No, it's something called Black Boss Porter.

kirsten (kirsten), Wednesday, 18 May 2005 02:10 (twenty-one years ago)

http://www.ncf.carleton.ca/~ek867/march_baudrillard.jpg

jean baudrillard sez: "i like it!"

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Wednesday, 18 May 2005 02:20 (twenty-one years ago)

"This picture shows a woman who's so happy and is being courted by the gentleman below here. However, the man holds a sword and she is quite afraid that she may be hurt ... again.

AND THAT'S THE FAIRY BELOW HER TRYING TO PROTECT HER AND I'M SUCH A DORK OMG WTF?!?!?!?!"

I ... I don't think that I'd like to ever watch that show again.

Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Wednesday, 18 May 2005 02:45 (twenty-one years ago)

I would probably like to see a show called Media Circus where Tucker Carlson sticks a flaming sword down his throat, then pulls it out, then sticks it down again.
Bowties LOOSED.

I am in love now.

saltbox and a rubber ball (Speedy Gonzalas), Wednesday, 18 May 2005 02:49 (twenty-one years ago)

NO ONE HAS SAID WHHAT IS IN THE SHOW IS THERE SOME SORT OF DISCLAIMER AT THE END FORBIDDING YOU TO DO SO?

Jimmy Mod, Sultan of Sexxitime (ModJ), Wednesday, 18 May 2005 12:53 (twenty-one years ago)

I watched about 10 minutes of it, and then I realized something bad was going to happen to my brain if I continued to watch.

The part I watched was Brit filming her knees and saying "don't these look like boobs?" and then asking all of her peons what they thought about relationships. Now I love me some Britney and making fun of Britney, but it was really too banal to want to watch for very long.

Leon Federline (Ex Leon), Wednesday, 18 May 2005 12:56 (twenty-one years ago)

Tom Shales' Wash Post review of this trainwreck: Hot link was "britney's execrable mess"

Britney's Home Video: Plumbing The Depths

By Tom Shales
Washington Post Staff Writer
Wednesday, May 18, 2005; Page C01

One sure thing about Britney Spears's new reality TV show: There's no danger of anyone ever dumbing it down. A dumber downer would potentially be lethal. It would have to be buried in lead for 10,000 years, like nuclear waste.

"Britney & Kevin: Chaotic," which premiered on the dispensable UPN network at 9 last night, was not made available in advance for critical review. After seeing the show on Channel 20, this critic can say that what seemed like a snub now appears to have been an act of charity. UPN was trying to spare us poor scribes a bad case of mal de mer.

Incredibly, Spears and hubby Kevin Federline took "credit" for the cinematography on the show, which was done by them on a standard-issue home video camera with more out-of-focus scenes, blurry wild pans and unintelligible visual gibberish than something shot by a 2-year-old child or a 100-year-old granny. Actually, there is no need to insult children and grandmothers here; the program was an execrable mess by absolutely any standard, though of course these days the idea of standards is just all too uncool.

Following in the tipsy footsteps of too many other rock and pop stars, Spears and her entourage decided they could turn the everyday blither and blather of their lives into a reality television show, with Spears asking "Can you handle my truth?" (the show's original title) once or twice during the hour. Her truth consisted mostly of footage of herself, close-ups so close that viewers could count pores -- except that almost no shots were held on-screen for more than a few seconds.

Then onto something else, like a view of two mounds accompanied by Spears's narration: "They look like boobs but they're not. They're my knees." Ha ha ha ha ha. Oh yes, there was lots of laughter, gales of it by Spears and her collection of assistants, hangers-on and suck-ups. In one of those categories we can put Federline, who Spears thinks is a "cute guy" (high praise) and "cool" and whom she dragged along on a London concert tour. Viewers were allowed only fleeting peeks of that.

The least that the smutty-mouthed, pudgy-faced brat could have done was to give her fans a musical number or two, but no. Entertainment was banned on the show, unless you count Spears gigglingly interrogating those around her with questions about "marriage and commitment and relationships . . . and stuff."

Federline, who has bad posture, no personality and wears diamond studs in his ear, didn't really figure in the proceedings (other than teaser sense at the outset) until 12 minutes into the show, when he was glimpsed on the phone in the back seat of a limo. Later, at their hotel, he was asked by Spears to philosophize: "I feel that love is love," he declared. "Love is a commitment." And, a moment later: "Love, it is what it is. It's everything. Everything."

"Magic happened," Federline said of the Monday he met Spears and briefly danced with her at an L.A. bar. Presumably this was stronger magic than that which inspired Spears's weekend marriage in Las Vegas last year (or was it last month?), a quickly annulled embarrassment to which she briefly and chirpily made reference.

Spears wasted much of the show terrorizing her staff. She also repeatedly asked her pals to describe their favorite sexual position, a needlessly tasteless touch for a star whose fans include little girls of 10 and younger.

It's scary to see those tots copying Spears's hyper-pelvic dance routines as they sing along with her records. Everyone laughs and says "how cute," but it can really creep you out.

Like the WB, UPN is a small network that keeps searching for a winning formula and ways of wasting time. "Britney & Kevin" plumbed new depths of shallowness. It was TV's non-event of the week. It was America's crummiest home video.

EComplex (EComplex), Wednesday, 18 May 2005 13:04 (twenty-one years ago)

Man, I'm really thankful my boobs don't look like my knees.

But, anyway, tell me more! Have they talked about the pregnancy yet?

Sarah McLusky (coco), Wednesday, 18 May 2005 13:08 (twenty-one years ago)

sounds like a lovely couple to procreate!

kelsey (kelstarry), Wednesday, 18 May 2005 13:29 (twenty-one years ago)

They're naming their baby Marcello.

Leon Federline (Ex Leon), Wednesday, 18 May 2005 13:37 (twenty-one years ago)

Maybe I'll tune back in when they show her shooting out her television set with a .45 after seeing Hillary Duff.

Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Wednesday, 18 May 2005 14:53 (twenty-one years ago)

"well, if they are controlling the image, does that still make it reality television?"

reality tv in its truest sense would never be legal/aired.

nathalie's baby (stevie nixed), Wednesday, 18 May 2005 14:55 (twenty-one years ago)

(and boring as hell to boot.)

nathalie's baby (stevie nixed), Wednesday, 18 May 2005 14:56 (twenty-one years ago)

I wish it was called Britney and Kevin - Quixotic

Huk-L, Wednesday, 18 May 2005 14:57 (twenty-one years ago)

Ballistic: Britney vs. Kevin

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 18 May 2005 15:07 (twenty-one years ago)

Britney should have married Daryl Hall.

Leon Federline (Ex Leon), Wednesday, 18 May 2005 15:43 (twenty-one years ago)

And Kevin could have married John Oates. Er, wait.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 18 May 2005 15:44 (twenty-one years ago)

Does every episode end with Kevin giving his report to his Orkian overlords?

Huk-L, Wednesday, 18 May 2005 15:46 (twenty-one years ago)

part of me doesn't want reality TV to die, what with it being my source of income, but good god.

Gear! (can Jung shill it, Mu?) (Gear!), Wednesday, 18 May 2005 15:51 (twenty-one years ago)

what a fucking slam pig she is. she disgusts me.

Chris 'The Nuts' V (Chris V), Wednesday, 18 May 2005 15:53 (twenty-one years ago)

Sarah and Leon have alternately almost made me shoot my gum out of my nose.

The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 18 May 2005 15:57 (twenty-one years ago)

Is that some kind of nasal felching euphemism?

Huk-L, Wednesday, 18 May 2005 15:59 (twenty-one years ago)

Ask Uwe Boll.

Leon Federline (Ex Leon), Wednesday, 18 May 2005 16:01 (twenty-one years ago)

good fucking god, i can't believe i missed it. i wonder if miss brit is reading the reviews.

sugarpants: baby's face on football! (sugarpants), Wednesday, 18 May 2005 16:04 (twenty-one years ago)

did anyone read the television without pity recap? it's amusing!

kelsey (kelstarry), Wednesday, 18 May 2005 16:17 (twenty-one years ago)

someone should show the raw unedited footage of federline sticking his fedora in her brown eye.

Chris 'The Nuts' V (Chris V), Wednesday, 18 May 2005 16:26 (twenty-one years ago)

Wow! I haven't heard the term "slam pig" in 10 years!

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Wednesday, 18 May 2005 16:32 (twenty-one years ago)

"well, if they are controlling the image, does that still make it reality television?"

reality tv in its truest sense would never be legal/aired.

OK, all reality TV is controlled. im aware of this. but, what makes this so different from other shows, is that the camera is physically controlled [albeit horribly] by the subject itself.

maria tessa sciarrino (theoreticalgirl), Wednesday, 18 May 2005 20:21 (twenty-one years ago)

If Kiss executive-produces their own tribute album, is it really a tribute?

Rickey Wright (Rrrickey), Wednesday, 18 May 2005 20:38 (twenty-one years ago)

rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrickey OTM

maria tessa sciarrino (theoreticalgirl), Wednesday, 18 May 2005 21:07 (twenty-one years ago)

three weeks pass...
" Maybe I'll tune back in when they show her shooting out her television set with a .45 after seeing Hillary Duff. "

HAHAHAHAHHAHA, i cant stop laughing.

as for what i said above, about this show being some new important kind of awful, i still stand by it. i believe the show has only one more week to go, and anyone ive tried to watch this around reacts violently. and its not the sort of violence that usually accompanies people slagging off normal reality television. people are angry with britney, who appears to have completely lost touch with reality, and the only thing they truly enjoy is seeing this smug prick federline weasel his way into her million dollar panties. im really struck by how much the camera "work" reminds me of the blair witch project, except in this horror story, you get to see the villan. (fuck you kevin)

the reason she is the executive producer is the same reason one of her songs was titled "Not a girl (not yet a woman)": she cannot bear the thought of anyone thinking of her as anything other than what she thinks of herself. Its a sort of Facist Solipsism over the airwaves, and i feel bad for her. At first she wanted us to think she wasnt that innocent, and now she is trying to meld this sleazy federline into Nick Lachey while she tries to fit into Jessica Simpson's southern girl stupidity, all to make up for the fact that most of us realize shes fairly drugged up.

its all sad, but hey, i love watching car crashes as much as no one.

JD from CDepot, Thursday, 9 June 2005 17:07 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh come now: this thing isn’t even a car crash. It isn’t even a television show. It is, somehow, slightly less interesting than a half-hour of test signals. There’s no “show” there, as evidenced by the fact that Britney and Kevin have to sit down in the present to offer “confessional”-style dialogue in an entirely-failed attempt to create some sense of motion or activity. No, this is an entire series of two-second camcorder shots of Spears and Federline sitting in hotels and having conversations even dumber and more boring than the ones you could be having with your own distant relatives. “Hey Kevin, what are you drinking?” “Brandy.” “You’re drinking brandy?” “Yeah.” … “Look at this doorway. When I have a house, I want doorways like this.” “Cool.” … “Hey Britney, dance on the table.” “On the table?” “Yeah, go for it.” “Okay.” … The only market I can possibly imagine taking any interest in this would be one consisting of pre-teen girls who have not yet dated anyone, and who would thus use this program to discover that, oops, just hanging out with someone you’re dating is not particularly exciting or interesting, from a spectator’s point of view. They’re approximately as dull and insipid as you’d imagine, which unfortunately isn’t quite dull or insipid enough to laugh at: just a regular-old dull young American couple playing with a camcorder and occasionally having particularly boring talks about their relationship: “You know what I like about our relationship? We get along well as friends.” “Yeah, we’re a lot alike.” … Cut to extended current-day discussion of when Kevin would or would not tell Britney he loved her, a topic I can’t even imagine interesting their immediate friends, much less anyone else in America. The most interesting moment they’ve managed to muster is a bit where they start giggling because they’re pretty sure their driver farted in the car. People have given cameras to high-school kids and gotten much better footage than this. This is like staring at trees; watching this is like watching a massive montage of America’s Funniest Home Videos that all cut off right before the guy gets hit in the crotch.

nabiscothingy, Thursday, 9 June 2005 17:34 (twenty-one years ago)

Can you handle my truth? I had orange juice with breakfast. Handle that. Scared yet? Sometimes I'm afraid of flying. Too chaotic for you? Too real? Sometimes my boyfriend and I call each other cute nicknames. And drink alcohol.

nabiscothingy, Thursday, 9 June 2005 17:38 (twenty-one years ago)

i can't handle it.

metal assembly (Jody Beth Rosen), Thursday, 9 June 2005 17:42 (twenty-one years ago)

http://www.televisionwithoutpity.com/show.cgi?show=149

metal assembly (Jody Beth Rosen), Thursday, 9 June 2005 17:44 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah, I watched maybe 10 minutes of the first episode and could take no more. It's too boring to be true trainwreck material.

Leon C. (Ex Leon), Thursday, 9 June 2005 17:46 (twenty-one years ago)

this show is like a weird sex tape compromise

s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 9 June 2005 17:46 (twenty-one years ago)

first, preteens arent watching this show. NO ONE is watching this show, it has terrible ratings. and im kinda sick of the whole preteen argument for britney anyway, if you were thirteen when you bought "hit me baby one more time", you are now 18, and probably listening to dashboard confessional or, at worst, hoobastank.

sure, there is no disaster to be seen on the show, but the show is pathetic. i keep thinking about pinnochio as i watch it. "i just want to be a real girl"...

JD from CDepot, Thursday, 9 June 2005 17:47 (twenty-one years ago)

She is a real girl! That's what's so boring about it! These same tapes are being created by countless twenty-year-olds across the country who live with their parents and will appear on Judge Mayblean's Divorce Court fighting over a cellphone bill a few years after the baby's born!

The pre-teen thing isn't an argument for Britney fandom; it's just that those are the only people I can imagine whose experience is small enough to potentially find this stuff interesting, which they don't anyway. Anyone who's ever dated someone will find this unconscionably dull, I assume; the only possibility for interest would be if you truly had no concept of what it was like to sit in a hotel room with someone you're dating and be bored shitless and play around with a camera. WHICH IN REAL LIFE AT LEAST LEADS TO NUDITY.

nabiscothingy, Thursday, 9 June 2005 17:52 (twenty-one years ago)

Guys, did you lose the remote or something?

n/a (Nick A.), Thursday, 9 June 2005 17:54 (twenty-one years ago)

nabisco is awesome on this thread.

metal assembly (Jody Beth Rosen), Thursday, 9 June 2005 17:55 (twenty-one years ago)

"Judge Mayblean's Divorce Court fighting over a cellphone bill a few years after the baby's born!"

hahaha

i mean, i have to completely agree with you. there is no interesting aspect of this show. a clever group of high schoolers could make a better show. but i am still interested in the slow crack-up of britney spears. christina aguleria isnt like this. jessica simpson isn't like this. why her? what in her mind could possibly justify a show like this. i mean, all around its a BAD IDEA. didnt she fire her manager a while ago? this is what i mean about creative control coming from someone who isnt really creative. Most starlets seem to be either happy with being told what to do, why not britney?

i do think some of this comes from a sort of generational obsession i have with her. i mean, if you were in high school when she first came out, she was THE girl, wasnt she?

JD from CDepot, Thursday, 9 June 2005 18:02 (twenty-one years ago)

does britney spears really define a generation? good god.

Miss Misery (thatgirl), Thursday, 9 June 2005 18:06 (twenty-one years ago)


yeah, im sorry, she kinda does. of course, as decentralized as Generation Y is, she only defines a small aspect of it.

JD from CDepot, Thursday, 9 June 2005 18:11 (twenty-one years ago)

Seriously, the remote's right over there. I bet there's a baseball game on or something.

n/a (Nick A.), Thursday, 9 June 2005 18:26 (twenty-one years ago)

http://img.timeinc.net/people/i/2005/news/050530/bspears2.jpg

metal assembly (Jody Beth Rosen), Thursday, 9 June 2005 18:53 (twenty-one years ago)

n/a -- My passionate boredom about this show was in fact created by watching like two minutes of two episodes, and then using said remote. You seriously don't even have to sit through a whole segment to see the flaws in this concept.

Also, JD: I actually don't think it's entirely insane of her to think people might want to watch this. I mean, really, if photographers followed you around and tabloids made a big stink about your going into a bathroom without shoes on and people on the internet had whole discussions about how you bought a cheaped-out Radiohead CD, it wouldn't be entirely unreasonable -- within that little bubble -- to come to the conclusion that people were super-interested in everything you did. What she probably hasn't realized -- and this is maybe good news for her, mental-health-wise -- is that we're only interested in seeing her do stupid stuff we can tear her down for.

nabiscothingy, Thursday, 9 June 2005 19:00 (twenty-one years ago)

Caption for that photo would be:

B: Omigod, are you filming this?
K: Yeah. I like your hat.
B: Remember, I bought it when we were in Spain?
K: It's cute. Show the camera that hat.
B: Like this?
K: Awesome.
B: We have so much fun together.
K: I can feel you opening your emotions up to me.

nabiscothingy, Thursday, 9 June 2005 19:02 (twenty-one years ago)

nabisco IS awesome on this thread.
i haven't seen this, though i feel compelled to. i kind of love the idea of britney spears.

i have this fantasy of going back in time to high school, when she was, as you say, the SHIT, (even if arty indie kids like me pretended to roll our eyes at her), and i want to tell everybody this insane story about What Happens To Britney, culminating in her, drunk, barefoot at a gas station, married, twice, and pregnant half a minute later.

amazing how the world can change before your eyes.

carly (carly), Thursday, 9 June 2005 19:12 (twenty-one years ago)

ooh, i'm almost done d0wn10@din6 the first episode! i'm mild with anticipation.

metal assembly (Jody Beth Rosen), Thursday, 9 June 2005 23:10 (twenty-one years ago)

if you don't like this show are you some kind of tv-rockist?

shookout (shookout), Friday, 10 June 2005 03:31 (twenty-one years ago)

you know, i don't hate this show.

metal assembly (Jody Beth Rosen), Friday, 10 June 2005 03:50 (twenty-one years ago)

when kevin bothers to clean himself up and shave and put on some decent clothes, he's almost... cute. maybe he can get a valtrex endorsement out of all this.

metal assembly (Jody Beth Rosen), Friday, 10 June 2005 04:09 (twenty-one years ago)

http://southsidecallbox.com/ilx/happy%20couple.bmp

metal assembly (Jody Beth Rosen), Friday, 10 June 2005 04:27 (twenty-one years ago)

Ah, there's the dark side of the Force, right there.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 10 June 2005 05:25 (twenty-one years ago)

http://photos13.flickr.com/18479768_b109420b81_o.jpg

metal assembly (Jody Beth Rosen), Friday, 10 June 2005 05:28 (twenty-one years ago)

this is a perfect example of what warhol was talking about

anthony easton (anthony), Friday, 10 June 2005 05:32 (twenty-one years ago)

kevin federline = joe dallesandro?

metal assembly (Jody Beth Rosen), Friday, 10 June 2005 05:34 (twenty-one years ago)

which would make britney... sylvia miles?

metal assembly (Jody Beth Rosen), Friday, 10 June 2005 05:36 (twenty-one years ago)

is anyone still watching this? after one episode i felt my brain cells severely decrease. the last time i felt myself get stupider was when i drank 1.5 bottles of tequila on my own and incurred alcohol poisoning, in a summer place directly across from the MTV beachouse.

maria tessa sciarrino (theoreticalgirl), Friday, 10 June 2005 05:43 (twenty-one years ago)

I don't have anything profound to say about demographics, but I do know that "teenpop" is sold massively - maybe even mostly - to pre-teen girls; and at the time of "...Baby One More Time" I knew a four year old who was a fan. (Britney's stopped aiming for the teenpop market for a while now, but that doesn't mean she's actively shunning it, or that you wouldn't expect pre-teens in the show's audience.)

Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Friday, 10 June 2005 19:28 (twenty-one years ago)

Also, pre-teens will watch almost anything on TV, whereas teens tend to shift away in favor of going out with their friends, or staying home and posting on ILX.

Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Friday, 10 June 2005 19:30 (twenty-one years ago)


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