transgenderism for the masses

anyways at least 1 per cent of the population is born w/o traditional genital integrity

xp the topic starter is a troll is my guess but we don't have to let that stop us from having a discussion.

Irregular poster...
when i was in school there were a lot of non-lesbians doing lesbian things, much like non-vegetarians posing as vegetarians.
I see the same trend with a bunch a folks waving the transgender banner for no apparent reason than that they are bored.
xxx

At least 1%? Thats seems a bit high... (of course I'm not really sure what 'genital integrity' means)

Hold on logical fallacy! "Posing" vs. "doing things"

You can do and still be posing.
You posted and posed at the same time.
Quite a talented boy you are.

The conclusion I've come to (as of yesterday, actually!) is that the "trangendered" category itself can be a terrifically useful one, because of the ways it both undercuts and clarifies the claims that people inside it are making. The way gender is constructed, socially, there's no way to really genuinely become the opposite gender; your experience is always going to be different and distinct from that of someone who came to the gender by biological and social force. The word "transgendered" sometimes tries to argue the opposite, but in its best use it kind of spins that nicely -- it can stress the "trans," the process of cultivating or kinda "outing" the gender that's not socially expected to be yours.

The main complication with the whole thing is that taking it very-seriously means abandoning the whole notion of gender that it relies on. Gender is a social construction, in the denotative sense; as soon as you shift your social constructions to take into account transgendering processes, you kind of blow away the structural integrity of the whole system, or at least its essentialist aspects. This is possibly a good thing, really -- just a weird one, when it comes to the rhetoric of transgenderisms. It's interesting to watch: with a lot of people, particularly the generation of actual male-to-female transsexuals that'd now be around 50/60, the process of crossing genders winds up being kind of embarrassingly about playing out the most banal and two-dimensional stereotypes of femininity. And once you start questioning that, and once you become okay with the idea of people kind of electively gendering themselves, you're coming closer to doing away with the whole notion of socially-constructed genders, or at least ones that are tied to sex. There's no escaping them as historical and cultural forces -- they're way too encoded into everything ever to forget anytime soon -- but if we acknowledge people's affiliation to them as basically elective, really a hodgepodge of masculine/feminine traits that form some overarching "personality," the whole notion of being transgendered would basically succeed in making itself obsolete. No more trans, just complex election across the board.

Have you seen the movie Beautiful Boxer?

She was a woman trapped in a man's body born in Chiang Mai. Learned Muay Thai and knocked out a woman wrestler in Tokyo. She went back to Chiang Mai, donated some DNA to a cow, used a baboon as a surrogate mother and BY GOD, here I am talking sweet nothings to you.

i think that most people in the educated, middle class, west post the second wave femminism, have become ungendered, but have not constructed sex in a similarly different way.

and now, recently we are flinging biology.

Yes, but the implication is not biconditional.

xpost

Also your statement about non lesbians acting like lesbians and non-vegetarians acting like vegetarians confuses me. Please clarify.

You're a smart guy. Catch a few more smart points and you may realize how stoopit u really is.

hey... that's good. Besides walking around with your head up your ass, what other skills do you possess?