Bye Bye Martin, hello gordon

Until a bunch of Devonians got lucky earlier this season, I believe it was the only time a non-league side had ever drawn away against a Premiership side. And, er, who was in charge of Coventry at the time?

Not that I'm diagreeing with you, but I think the hardest thing Gordon's going to have to overcome is fan expectation rather than getting the football right

Mid-table finish with Saints, dismal cup final, lost his only European tie.

Hardly an impressive CV.

Still, we'll get all his funny wee post defeat quotes too keep the media in copy...

If I were a Celtic fan I'd be more concerned with Strachan's lack of actual trophies as a manager, and his habit of having a truly terrible season every three years or so.

He doesn't need passion right now, but it needs to develop pretty quickly if he's going to get the fans on his side.

Re. his track record, my memory is that he did quite well with the southampton team he had. You can be the best manager in the world, but getting the most out of your team doesn't mean that you get the trophies rather than the rich teams with managers that get mediocre performances from world class players

I wonder what text Shearer sent Bellamy on Sunday?

GS has always managed at Premiership level and therefore it has been harder to win things, it's true. And maybe O'Neill got lucky in winning the League Cup, but O'Neill also had the experience of actually winning Championships and the League Cup, I always think that counts for something.

I seem to recall Celtic fans taking to Wim Jansen readily enough once they started winning, and I don't remember him demonstrating any special passion for the club. I don't pay that much attention, mind.

ahahaha

I was a bit worried, because I thought this thread might be about Skidmore!

Thank you Caitlin - me too! It took a few lines of Vicky's post to work out that she probably didn't mean me. I thought perhaps I was being replaced by someone of comparable dignity and intelligence - Gordon the Gopher sprang first to mind.

Not been reading the Scottish Football Predictions thread recently then?

Don't Strachan's bad seasons coincide with having his best players sold from under his feet by clueless chairmen?

hahaha, he'll be shite at Celtic then.

I am, on reflection, neither happy with MON since Seville nor full of enthusiasm for wee Gogsy. However, I am willing to sit atop my fence until proved wrong on the latter score, and no amount of nice memories of Seville will take away the fact that twice in three seasons we have lost the league on the final day to two of the worst Rangers squads I can remember, and this season especially that has been due to MON's reluctance to change what he sees as a winning team even when it's blatantly obvious to everyone that it's not working.

I was under the impression that O'Neill spent a lot of the last couple of seasons down south looking after Mrs O'Neill and that Walford and Robertson were in charge of training. Perhaps the fact that they've jumped with him will herald an even wider change.