creme brulee: classy

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Crisp the top with a specially made creme brulee torch and serve after a nice tableside Chicken Caesar Salad. Couple with a nice Syrah and you've got a romantic, sophisticated, delectable culinary tour of Olde Europe that is a feast for all the senses.

Aaron A., Wednesday, 25 May 2005 15:02 (twenty-one years ago)

Chicken Caesar Salad

SO NOT UEROPE

M. White (Miguelito), Wednesday, 25 May 2005 15:06 (twenty-one years ago)

haha i thought you said "Couple with a nice sarah and you've got a romantic, sophisticated, delectable culinary tour of Olde Europe that is a feast for all the senses." and i was all like OTM.

ken c (ken c), Wednesday, 25 May 2005 15:06 (twenty-one years ago)

creme brulee is teh yum. caesar salad is teh nasty. syrah = gimme.

teen challenge (Jody Beth Rosen), Wednesday, 25 May 2005 15:07 (twenty-one years ago)

I love Ceasar salad but it went out of fashion to the point that the restaurants I would order it at no longer have it on the menu.

Aaron A., Wednesday, 25 May 2005 15:10 (twenty-one years ago)

Don't get me wrong, I love a real caesar (one of my bugbears is the number of restaurants who are unable to correctly spell this) salad, it's just that it was invented in Tijuana, Mexico by Caesar Cardini. I like crème brûlée well enough, though I probably prefer pot de crème. As for Syrah, too jammy for my taste.

M. White (Miguelito), Wednesday, 25 May 2005 15:16 (twenty-one years ago)

wow, you actually made the effort to insert the accent marks in there! :-)

teen challenge (Jody Beth Rosen), Wednesday, 25 May 2005 15:19 (twenty-one years ago)

Ceasar salad is all about the dressing, and it's really hard to get a good dressing. So, yeah, it's best not to order it.

slightly more subdued (kenan), Wednesday, 25 May 2005 15:23 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm with Jody on Syrah. I was just thinking about foodies and fashion and fickleness; how Syrah is treated as so-5-minutes-ago (or 'the new Merlot'), c.b. is great but I declare it completely played out (one of the Queer Eyes suggested that the hetero project serve c.b. to his date and I thought, I just couldn't...), and Caesar Salad is an '80s relic, at least in the U.S.

Aaron A., Wednesday, 25 May 2005 15:25 (twenty-one years ago)

Caesar Salad is all about hiding bad lettuce in the dressing.

Huk-L, Wednesday, 25 May 2005 15:26 (twenty-one years ago)

*Thinks of best friend with blowtorch demonstrating what goes wrong when bruleeing creme.*

Negativa, True Believer (You know you love it when I'm dressed in drag) (Barima), Wednesday, 25 May 2005 15:27 (twenty-one years ago)

Food fashion is for idiots. Because it made such a huge splash in the late 80's/early 90's, crème brûlée may be 'played out' but frankly, who gives a fuck if it's well made?

Caesar Salad still figures on many menus here in SF and when made correctly is still a lovely thing. Unfortunately, fear or raw eggs and squeamishness about anchovies have led to a lot of insipid, ersatz, and often misspelled versions and Huk, nothing but the best hearts of romaine should be used.

M. White (Miguelito), Wednesday, 25 May 2005 15:33 (twenty-one years ago)

Don't get me wrong, I love a real caesar (one of my bugbears is the number of restaurants who are unable to correctly spell this) salad, it's just that it was invented in Tijuana, Mexico by Caesar Cardini.

Caesar Cardini spent his first 20+ years in Europe, FWIW:

http://www.inspirationline.com/Brainteaser/salad.htm

gygax! (gygax!), Wednesday, 25 May 2005 15:33 (twenty-one years ago)

how Syrah is treated as so-5-minutes-ago

as long as it's not 10-minutes-ago, i'm fine.

did anyone see that iron chef america episode where steingarten said to batali "don't you think seared scallops are kind of... OVER?" and batali rolled his eyes in this "oh fuck off, i could buy and sell your queeny ass three times over" kinda way, and muttered "i don't follow the whims of food fads"?

teen challenge (Jody Beth Rosen), Wednesday, 25 May 2005 15:35 (twenty-one years ago)

Also FWIW: Unlike today, Tijuana was a reasonably classy hustle- bustle place from 1920-1933 (ie, Prohibition).

gygax! (gygax!), Wednesday, 25 May 2005 15:36 (twenty-one years ago)

Unfortunately, fear or raw eggs and squeamishness about anchovies have led to a lot of insipid, ersatz, and often misspelled versions and Huk, nothing but the best hearts of romaine should be used.

I was just googling Caeser dressing recipies, and was shocked -- shocked! -- at how many included neither eggs nor anchovies. THAT'S NOT CAESAR DRESSING, PEOPLE.

slightly more subdued (kenan), Wednesday, 25 May 2005 15:38 (twenty-one years ago)

Caeser

they never learn

teen challenge (Jody Beth Rosen), Wednesday, 25 May 2005 15:39 (twenty-one years ago)

gygax, as that link shows, it was originally linked to his place in Tijuana which was why, despite his being Italian, I said it was not European. It's not unknown in Europe but it's not as ubiquitous as it is here on the west coast.

Anybody like green goddess salad?

M. White (Miguelito), Wednesday, 25 May 2005 15:41 (twenty-one years ago)

A C-Zar salad (consists of sliced bananas and used foreskins).

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 25 May 2005 15:41 (twenty-one years ago)

No fake blood?

M. White (Miguelito), Wednesday, 25 May 2005 15:43 (twenty-one years ago)

they never learn

it's not so much a spelling problem as a typing problem.

slightly more subdued (kenan), Wednesday, 25 May 2005 15:44 (twenty-one years ago)

this thread is funny

kyle (akmonday), Wednesday, 25 May 2005 15:49 (twenty-one years ago)

shocked! -- at how many included neither eggs nor anchovies. THAT'S NOT CAESAR DRESSING, PEOPLE.

Anchovies weren't in the original salad.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caesar_salad

Chewshabadoo (Chewshabadoo), Wednesday, 25 May 2005 15:57 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh yes they were. I'll come back and give the url later.

Aaron A., Wednesday, 25 May 2005 15:58 (twenty-one years ago)

I would not have guessed that. No matter... Worchestershire is a fine, fine ingredient.

slightly more subdued (kenan), Wednesday, 25 May 2005 15:59 (twenty-one years ago)

Caesar salad honors restaurateur Caesar Cardini (1896-1956) shown above, who invented
it in Tijuana, Mexico in 1924 on the Fourth of July weekend. It is said that on this busy
weekend, Cardini was running low on food and he put together a salad for his guests
from what was left over in the kitchen. Caesar experimented and that evening the Caesar's
Salad was born. "Take everything to the table" he said, "and make a ceremony of fixing
the salad". His original recipe included romaine, garlic, croutons, and Parmesan cheese,
boiled eggs, olive oil and Worcestershire sauce. The original salad was prepared at
tableside. When the salad dressing was ready, the romaine leaves were coated with
the dressing and placed stem side out, in a circle and served on a flat dinner plate,
so that the salad could be eaten with the fingers.
...

In 1926, Alex Cardini joined his brother, Caesar, at the Tijuana
restaurant. Alex, an ace pilot in the Italian Air Force during World War I, added other
ingredients, one of which was anchovies, and named the salad Aviator's Salad" in honor
of the pilots from Rockwell Field Air Base in San Diego. It is reported that Alex's version
became very popular, and later this salad was renamed "Caesar Salad."

M. White (Miguelito), Wednesday, 25 May 2005 16:00 (twenty-one years ago)

Learnding!

slightly more subdued (kenan), Wednesday, 25 May 2005 16:02 (twenty-one years ago)

SF Classic Green Goddess:

http://members.cox.net/jjschnebel/grgdssdr.html

M. White (Miguelito), Wednesday, 25 May 2005 16:03 (twenty-one years ago)

http://www.theminorthirds.com/ilx/simpsons-classy.jpg

Casuistry (Chris P), Wednesday, 25 May 2005 23:17 (twenty-one years ago)


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