Work Is Hell (or, another thread where I whine and whine in the hope of getting pity-attention and end up full of self-hatred and get shouted at by Marcello)

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I'm feeling like crap at the moment. My life is going nowhere; I never do anything or see anyone, or interact with anyone non-family outside of work or The Internet. Half of the other people at work socialise with each other in the evenings, but I'm never invited, because I'm the odd-looking one in the back office who acts creepy all the time.

Anyway, one of the people who I'd say I do at least get along with is having a party next week, and everyone - including me - is invited. Now, I was planning to go, even though I normally hate parties unless they're with close friends: I end up sat in a corner, on my own, talking to noone and drinking until I fall over. Then, I found out that someone I really don't want to see will be going to the party. Someone who falls into the class of people who will probably make me suicidal if I bump into them whilst drunk. So, going would definitely be a bad idea.

Then, the Office Gossip finds out that I'm planning not to go. And immediately starts being very forceful, saying "you ARE going" every time she sees me, and telling the host that i'm "DEFINITELY GOING" in front of everyone else in the office. She knows full well *why* I don't want to go, but just keeps telling me that I'm being "stupid and pathetic" when I try to explain. She's been telling other people that I'm just fishing for sympathy over being single.

So, should I a) go to the party and end up getting drunk and feeling lonely and suicidal b) stay at home, stay sober, but feel suicidal anyway or c) stop posting threads like this, promise myself to get off ILE like I keep meaning to, turn off the computer and go out and do something less boring instead.

caitlin (caitlin), Friday, 27 May 2005 13:22 (twenty-one years ago)

Is it a big party? Is there any possibility for you too avoid contact with person in question?

Tuomas (Tuomas), Friday, 27 May 2005 13:25 (twenty-one years ago)

do what i'd do in this situation. go along and START SOME SHIT.

g-kit (g-kit), Friday, 27 May 2005 13:25 (twenty-one years ago)

Whatever you decide should definitely include:

d) Tell the Office Gossip to mind her own fucking business

Onimo (GerryNemo), Friday, 27 May 2005 13:26 (twenty-one years ago)

I thought you were going to say..

Is it a big party? Can we all come?

-- Tuomas (tuomas.alh...) (webmail), May 27th, 2005 2:25 PM. (link)

mark grout (mark grout), Friday, 27 May 2005 13:26 (twenty-one years ago)

i'd go with b! but don't feel suicidal. b, but with the bad bits taken out.

N_RQ, Friday, 27 May 2005 13:27 (twenty-one years ago)

Is it a big party?

About 200 people, of which at least 2/3 will be people from work and their partners. I'm unlikely to be able to avoid contact with the person in question without it being very obvious what is going on.

(this is assuming that everyone who received an invite goes)

caitlin (caitlin), Friday, 27 May 2005 13:30 (twenty-one years ago)

Hey Caitlin! I'd go to the party anyway & if this person attempts to make you feel bad, just go all "Roxy" on their ass. Failing that, I'll give you my number & I'll shout at them down the phone for you! :-)
Also, fwiw, if you want to break the cycle of being on your own & having a limited number of friends, definitely go as if you don't take these opportunities when they are presented to you, ppl will stop asking. Best of luck pretty lady, you can do it.

PinXorchiXoR (Pinkpanther), Friday, 27 May 2005 13:30 (twenty-one years ago)

I take it person knows how you feel about him/her... Can't you just ignore him/her, even if it is obvious that you're doing so?

Tuomas (Tuomas), Friday, 27 May 2005 13:32 (twenty-one years ago)

They are a friend of the Office Gossip, and have also said that they think I'm "creepy", "stupid" and "pathetic".

caitlin (caitlin), Friday, 27 May 2005 13:35 (twenty-one years ago)

what pinkpanther said: 200 is a fairly large number, so hopefully there won't be a situation where you're forced to have too much contact with this other person. you can always leave the party early if it gets too much, but at least you made the effort.

also, yes - d) tell Office Gossip to stop being so fucking obnoxious.

Office Gossip and this other person sound like horrid people, but I'm sure there will be others at the party who aren't like that.

The Lex (The Lex), Friday, 27 May 2005 13:37 (twenty-one years ago)

Right, well we know you are not:
1)Creepy
2)Stupid
3)Pathetic.

If you can work yourself up to feeling vaguely "fuck them" I say go and show them what you're made of.

Also - people in offices are teribbly self-obessed. I'm sure they don't think so much about you. It could be a chance to get to know some other work people a little better, maybee feel as though you have them in your corner day-to-day.

Anna (Anna), Friday, 27 May 2005 13:40 (twenty-one years ago)

One person isn't too hard to ignore in a group of 200. If you think any good can come out of going - i.e you might meet some fun/interesting people - then GO. You have to do things for YOU and not let the fact that other people might/might not be there, might/might not make you feel bad dictate how you spend yr time. I sense you want to go, so GO.

The office gossip - everyone knows someone like this. ALWAYS it boils down to the same thing - they have nothing of worth going on in their own lives and cannot resist meddling in other people's. You need to get her on her own and tell her firmly that you don't appreciate the way she's behaving and you want it to stop. Do it forcefully enough and it will.

Dr. C (Dr. C), Friday, 27 May 2005 13:40 (twenty-one years ago)

Regardless of that, though, I will still end up sitting in a corner on my own drinking myself into a coma. Because that's what I *do* at parties. I sit, look like some sort of lifeless loner, so people avoid me. I get ignored by everyone, feel worse because everyone is ignoring me, and it goes downhill from there.

(xxpost)

caitlin (caitlin), Friday, 27 May 2005 13:40 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeh, there are lots of nasty people in the world, but lots of nice ones too. Latch onto the nice people, all the people who invited you because they want to get to know you, and ignore/blank the nasty ones.

I know it's not quite as easy as that, but it's a plan, yes?

Come Back Johnny B (Johnney B), Friday, 27 May 2005 13:41 (twenty-one years ago)

Don't go. I hate parties too. You need to control your own social situation. Have a small gathering where you live. Invite a few people round to your place and cook for them, or just get a pizza and a few beers in.

If you invite people round, even if they can't come this time, they will see that you are willing. Whenever I have to cancel plans with other people (usually of this type, because, like I say, I hate parties too), I usually try to make some smaller, less pressured, alternative plan. You could try that.

Oh, and tell the office gossip to fuck off. Actually use those words. Your popularity will skyrocket.

accentmonkey (accentmonkey), Friday, 27 May 2005 13:46 (twenty-one years ago)

Noone *did* invite me because they wanted to get to know me, though, they invited me because they felt they had to invite everyone in the company.

caitlin (caitlin), Friday, 27 May 2005 13:46 (twenty-one years ago)

If you can work yourself up to feeling vaguely "fuck them" I say go and show them what you're made of.

yeah, that's what i meant.

g-kit (g-kit), Friday, 27 May 2005 13:49 (twenty-one years ago)

If ppl don't want to invite someone they invariably don't. What you need to do is make the effort to not sit there in the corner on your own. I know it isn't easy, but really hun, you are the only person that can break this cycle. The fact that you have posed the question appears to me that you want to go. So make the most of it. Short sharp bursts of socialising could be the way to go. When you turn up, have a few drinks to get you relaxed & chatty. As soon as you feel things start to turn around, it's your cue to leave. It will get easier in time.

PinXorchiXoR (Pinkpanther), Friday, 27 May 2005 13:53 (twenty-one years ago)

Also - people in offices are teribbly self-obessed

Haha. People in offices be shoppin'.

Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 27 May 2005 13:56 (twenty-one years ago)

People in offices be shoppin'.

Every so often when I've got nothing better to do I run a traffic analyser to see what's flying about on the computer network, just to check that nothing odd seems to be going on. This means that I can see exactly what websites my co-workers are browsing when they're supposed to be doing some work. And, yes, they be shoppin'.

caitlin (caitlin), Friday, 27 May 2005 14:00 (twenty-one years ago)

It sounds to me like you shouldn't go to the party. I have decided to avoid all parties that don't revolve around dancing, since otherwise I hate them. Some social activity is not always better than none. It sounds like things are going to be rough whether you go or not, but it looks like there is more chance of the party giving you a worse epxerience than staying home would.

RS (Catalino) LaRue (RSLaRue), Friday, 27 May 2005 14:01 (twenty-one years ago)

Is there someone you can take along for moral support?

Miss Misery (thatgirl), Friday, 27 May 2005 14:02 (twenty-one years ago)

Nope. I don't *know* anyone, apart from colleagues and my parents, who lives within 50 miles.

caitlin (caitlin), Friday, 27 May 2005 14:03 (twenty-one years ago)

ILX Escort Service!

Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 27 May 2005 14:06 (twenty-one years ago)

There aren't any ILXors within 50 miles either, though!

caitlin (caitlin), Friday, 27 May 2005 14:09 (twenty-one years ago)

Just don't go. It'll piss off the office gossip, and that's a good thing, and it doesn't sound like you want to go. But plan something fun to do instead, like go to a movie. Don't go sit at home by yourself.

n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 27 May 2005 14:10 (twenty-one years ago)

I would go to the party, but go with a good attitude. Strut your stuff, lift your head high, try to look self-confident and feel it as much as you can. Try to meet some new people. Talk to whoever strikes your fancy, whoever looks interesting. You need to meet people somewhere and this is an opportunity to do that.

I was also going to suggest you bring someone along, but you said that isn't an option.

Sarah McLusky (coco), Friday, 27 May 2005 14:14 (twenty-one years ago)

There aren't any ILXors within 50 miles either, though!

sheesh, when i signed up i thought ilx had worldwide coverage! i must consult the contract.

N_RQ, Friday, 27 May 2005 14:14 (twenty-one years ago)

We're getting mixed messages here... I assumed Caitlin wanted to go, if it weren't for the one person. Do you have any nice colleagues? Maybe you could ask if someone would like to take the same ride there with you, then you'd have someone to chat with at the party already when you get there.

Tuomas (Tuomas), Friday, 27 May 2005 14:16 (twenty-one years ago)

(x-post)

Tuomas (Tuomas), Friday, 27 May 2005 14:16 (twenty-one years ago)

I'd get drunk somewhere else, not go to the party, explain to everybody at work on Monday that you couldn't make it to the party because you were too drunk, then punch the Office Gossip to the floor and keep kicking until I was pulled off them. Seriously.

TV's Mr Noodle Vague (noodle vague), Friday, 27 May 2005 14:16 (twenty-one years ago)

I think you should go and give the party 100% - talk to people, make some friends, drink a little not a lot and have fun. You don't need to talk to this person, sure you'll see them but if you busy yourself talking to people then you'll feel a lot better.

I know it sounds like pretty simplistic advice but seriously go there and give it your absolute best. And if something goes wrong then you can't be blamed because you gave it your very best shot. And at least you'll be able to be proud of your efforts.

Hari A$hur$t (Toaster), Friday, 27 May 2005 14:17 (twenty-one years ago)

Fuck the office gossip.

You go there, give it 100%, hold your head up high and let them know you do not give a solitary shit.

Hari A$hur$t (Toaster), Friday, 27 May 2005 14:18 (twenty-one years ago)

yeah. then start some shit.

g-kit (g-kit), Friday, 27 May 2005 14:18 (twenty-one years ago)

The only alternative to sitting at home by myself is going out and doing stuff by myself; and that leaves me feeling just as bad.

The Office Gossip has a second job doing bar work, and keeps trying to persuade me to go to her pub in an evening. I keep refusing, partly because it's five miles away with no public transport, and partly becuase it would mean spending and evening sitting at a bar, on my own, looking sad and lonely. And looking like an alcoholic, too.

ILX *does* have worldwide coverage. And I'm the local representative, I think. Dr C is from this area, but I don't think he's lived here for years.

There are some colleagues I do get along with reasonably well, but I'm not sure there is anyone I get along with well enough to ask them any favours.

caitlin (caitlin), Friday, 27 May 2005 14:19 (twenty-one years ago)

Sitting at a bar on your own needn't make you look sad and lonely and alcoholic, it's a good way to meet people too. Unless you live in the South :(

TV's Mr Noodle Vague (noodle vague), Friday, 27 May 2005 14:23 (twenty-one years ago)

Couldn't you just say you don't know your way to the party and ask someone if you could join them on their way there?

Tuomas (Tuomas), Friday, 27 May 2005 14:23 (twenty-one years ago)

No - it's very easy to find, and everyone knows that I've been there before.

Everyone here drives, so I'd have to ask someone for a lift if I wanted to arrive with someone. And, as I said, I don't think i *could* do that.

caitlin (caitlin), Friday, 27 May 2005 14:28 (twenty-one years ago)

I find he best way to get around office dos is to make sure it 'clashes with a friend's birthday party' so you can make your escape after showing your face.

Madchen (Madchen), Friday, 27 May 2005 14:40 (twenty-one years ago)

I keep feeling that:

If I do go, the Office Gossip will be all "AHA! See! I knew I could get you to come!"

If I don't, I'll get "AHA! I knew you wouldn't go! I was deliberately trying to put you off."

caitlin (caitlin), Friday, 27 May 2005 14:52 (twenty-one years ago)

Or: tell people you were having dinner with a friend you hadn't seen in a long time.

(But definitely plan something particular & fun to do that night.)

Douglas (Douglas), Friday, 27 May 2005 14:52 (twenty-one years ago)

I think you should go and keep firmly in mind that you can leave whenever you want to. Chances are, you'll see pretty quickly whether there's a chance to meey some new intersting people or not. If you decide to leave - because either there weren't or you felt back the old vicious circle of being bored, sit in a corner, etc. - at least you won't feel too guilty about not having made an effort.

The Emancipation of Baaderonixx (KERERU 4 LIFE!) (Fabfunk), Friday, 27 May 2005 14:54 (twenty-one years ago)

Well, seeing as you dislike the Gossip anyway, and know she'll be annoying whatever occurs, why not risk going to the party? You said it was hosted by someone you "at least get along with" - buttonhole the host when you get there, and start a conversation with those around the host.

AdrianB (AdrianB), Friday, 27 May 2005 15:03 (twenty-one years ago)

that gossip person sounds like a tool. go to the party and make a good job of it like the excellent advice up-thread, but avoid her before you avoid anyone else. is this the same gossip person that behaved badly when you asked someone on a date?

gem (trisk), Friday, 27 May 2005 15:05 (twenty-one years ago)

Daddy, what does regret mean?
Well son, the funny thing about regret is, it's better to regret something you have done than to regret something you haven't done. And by the way, if you see your mom office gossip this weekend, be sure and tell her SATAN

beanz (beanz), Friday, 27 May 2005 15:10 (twenty-one years ago)

You should go, and make sure you take a camera with you. Then take lots of pictures of your co-workers when they are in compromising positions i.e. looking drunk/unkempt/gettin' their boobs out/kissing the boss/whatever (or just bad pics of them looking ugly with smudged makeup, bad hair and no dress sense), upload said pics to your company intranet and embarrass the hell out of them.

C J (C J), Friday, 27 May 2005 15:17 (twenty-one years ago)

I'd echo the suggestion to go and leave when you feel things starting to turn. Drink a little to loosen up, but don't get drunk, and when you start feeling like you've said all your hellos and now you have to go sit in a corner, go home and watch a movie or something. (This is what I do at dances - when I start to feel like instead of having fun, I am having trouble getting partners and avoiding one or two bad dancers I don't want to spend the evening with, I leave before I have the time to feel bad. It works pretty well.) Won't do so much for the Office Gossip but it sounds like she's going to be a bitch either way.

Maria (Maria), Friday, 27 May 2005 15:29 (twenty-one years ago)

We don't have a company intranet. Maybe I should set up an experimental one, if I get hold of enough embarrassing photos.

is this the same gossip person that behaved badly when you asked someone on a date?

Yup.

caitlin (caitlin), Friday, 27 May 2005 15:45 (twenty-one years ago)

What a weird spread of opinions! I'm more or less in the camp of thinking you should go, even though it might be a bit of a trial. I mean, it sounds like you're not happy with being the anti-social one -- and getting out of that anti-social rut is going to involve relaxing, putting on a smile, and putting yourself out there in a few potentially-trying social situations. If nothing else, this is good practice: you go, you work through the awkward small talk, the world doesn't end, and next time around it'll feel a little easier.

That said, you should certainly give yourself escape routes. Plan something else for later, so if things are going awkwardly you'll have an excuse to duck out. Drink a little but not a lot. And with 200 people, it should be easy to avoid the person you don't want to see -- just drift off to the bathroom or to freshen your drink whenever he/she comes by, and chances are it won't even be very noticable.

Seriously, though: if you're tired of feeling antisocial, then put on your game face and get out there. Even if you don't really like the people, even if it's not going to be any fun, even if you're just going to pop in for an hour and then run -- that's how you get started. And really, it'll probably be fine: if people are all bringing spouses or dates or friends, there'll be plenty of people wandering around not knowing anyone and happy to chat.

nabisco (nabisco), Friday, 27 May 2005 16:05 (twenty-one years ago)

:( thought it might be the same one.

while i like a good chinwag myself i must say i think gossiping is only ok when it doesn't give other folk the shits. i say go to the party, have an awesome time (follow Hari's and nabisco's advice, i like the idea of an escape route but make it flexible so you can stay if you are having a good time) and completely blank the office gossip now and forevermore. no one is going to notice if you avoid the other person you don't want to see amongst 200-odd people. by the sounds of it everyone else is bound to know the gossip has a fat mouth so they won't believe anything she says anyway.

i am pretty shy but i've noticed that the more i make myself go to these parties and whatnot the easier it gets, because (i) i'm getting more used to chatting to people i don't know really well and (ii) i know more people each time i do it. so it's worth it i reckon. and it's only a couple of hours out of your life, even if it is a bit awful it's not the end of the world.

gem (trisk), Friday, 27 May 2005 16:08 (twenty-one years ago)

Exactly, exactly. It's remarkably easy to go from party-hater to party-lover, and it's really all about those points (i) and (ii) -- it really is down to just a little practice.

nabisco (nabisco), Friday, 27 May 2005 16:21 (twenty-one years ago)

just go all "Roxy" on their ass

ICE COLD.

Go. Make an alternate plan that, even if it doesn't actually exist, is plausible enough that you can excuse yourself when you feel like it. Staying at home is the WORST idea. Staying at home means not doing anything, whereas at least *trying* to go to the party means you still have the option of going home and drinking gin. From the bottle. While you watch terrible re-runs of Mad TV because the clicker's broken and you're too miserable and drunk to actually get up and change the channel.

giboyeux (skowly), Friday, 27 May 2005 16:26 (twenty-one years ago)

Caitlin do whatever feels best for you but if you are going to make friends you're going to have put yourself out there in uncomfortable situations (to begin with). When I moved to a new city and didn't know anyone I started hanging out my local bar, alone. I'd bring a book or notebook, got to know the bartenders, and eventually made a large group of good friends.

Miss Misery (thatgirl), Friday, 27 May 2005 18:06 (twenty-one years ago)

i didn't know hanging out at bars worked that way, that's great.

Maria (Maria), Friday, 27 May 2005 18:08 (twenty-one years ago)

it did for me. :) helps if it's a friendly bar.

Miss Misery (thatgirl), Friday, 27 May 2005 18:10 (twenty-one years ago)

Don't mind me. Following my advice in relation to socializing is like listening to your neighbor's dog ordering you to kill strangers. However, if self-hatred is getting to be a problem for you, you might try doing something different. Not necessarily this thing or that thing, but something. Like they say, if you always do what you've always done, you'll always get what you've always got.

Aimless (Aimless), Friday, 27 May 2005 18:47 (twenty-one years ago)

Local bars are perfect for meeting people when you've just moved -- proper, friendly, local, after-work-drink bars. Go and do your reading there and be friendly, and you'll have some friends right off. They might not be perfect friends, or people you're going to keep in your life long-term, but it's a start, and something to keep you busy and social enough to meet friends you genuinely want.

nabisco (nabisco), Friday, 27 May 2005 18:52 (twenty-one years ago)

nabisco and Miss Misery OTM

giboyeux (skowly), Friday, 27 May 2005 18:54 (twenty-one years ago)

I've actually been thinking about trying the "hang out in a local bar" thing lately. I did that at a coffee shop a few years ago and met tons of people, and only lost touch with them because I moved out of the city for awhile. I have friends now, but most of them are my boyfriend's friends, and I want to meet some more people to hang out with on my own. Miss Misery's story is encouraging.

kirsten (kirsten), Friday, 27 May 2005 18:57 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah small neighborhood bars are good for this. I ended up working at mine and met my best friend who also turned out to live in the apt next to mine. (yet we had to meet at the bar. sad I know.)

Miss Misery (thatgirl), Friday, 27 May 2005 19:06 (twenty-one years ago)

For future reference: if you get an invite to something you really really don't want to go to, but you feel pressured to attend, feign enthusiasm and keep telling people how much you are looking forward to it, then call in sick at the last minute. No-one will suspect a thing. This can't be done over and over though, so spend it wisely.

estela (estela), Friday, 27 May 2005 19:08 (twenty-one years ago)

Just as a complete aside to the party itself, have you considered going to HR and complaining about the fact this woman gangs up on you and harrases you at work? No one has a right to call you "stupid" "pathetic" and "creepy" and what you choose to do outside of work is NO ONE at works fucking business, even if you are torn about going.

Maybe I'm used to companies where they jam the equal opps thing down yr throat but this kind of bullying (and bullying it is) is just disgusting, and I'm sorry you have to put up with it :(

Trayce (trayce), Saturday, 28 May 2005 01:46 (twenty-one years ago)

Parties with coworkers are 95% teh suck. First Christmas party at my first job, I was trying to leave early and my drunk boss parked herself in front of the door and said, "Where do you think you're going?" I said, "I'm off the clock, so move your butt." All the drunks thought that was hilarious, and I managed to escape while she tried to decide how to react.

Rock Hardy (Rock Hardy), Saturday, 28 May 2005 02:00 (twenty-one years ago)

What hell. I'm glad I've never had to endure that.

Orbit (Orbit), Saturday, 28 May 2005 02:01 (twenty-one years ago)

God yeah whats with work forcing parties on staff? a couple years back our works xmas party was proceeded with an email from the boss saying "I need not remind you all attendance at this party is compulsory". The damn thing was on a Thursday and only went a few hours. It didnt exactly sound like a rage. So many people kicked up a stink he had to backpedal.

I was lucky enough to have friends at my work (people who were friends before we worked there, etc) so I could hide and drink and bitch with them, because the cliquey bitches in my office were even worse hell at work parties (get drunk, bitch totally openly about/at people they hated., forcibly drag people to dance to really didnt want to, etc).

Trayce (trayce), Saturday, 28 May 2005 02:03 (twenty-one years ago)

I've just started at a new job, and I'm having an office party within a couple of weeks. Luckily, my workmates are mostly very nice; a lot of students doing part-time and summer work there, just like me. Even the bosses are cool, and I also have a few friends there, whom I've known before I started there. My only problem is that I fear I'm going to get drunk and try to chat up with this workmate of mine, who seems really nice and is supercute. Is it unavoidable?

Tuomas (Tuomas), Saturday, 28 May 2005 11:41 (twenty-one years ago)

Don't get very drunk, duh. Sometimes the collective alcoholism of ILX slays me.

Rock Hardy (Rock Hardy), Saturday, 28 May 2005 13:26 (twenty-one years ago)

Sometimes it's easy to go with the best of intentions, but sadly, unless you want to not drink at all (which is always an option, but not great on the loosening up front), it's all too easy to get drunk without realising it. I think that when you're nervous the alcohol can't really get a hold on you, but then, a couple of hours later, when you start to relax, you realise you've drunk too much and it's too late to take it back.

It's liking eating too fast and then being too full. Only with BOOZE!

I cure this by driving everywhere nowadays and not drinking.

accentmonkey (accentmonkey), Saturday, 28 May 2005 16:43 (twenty-one years ago)

One of the things that I don't think will help me feel great is that the party is an *engagement* party, which will inevitably just leave me feeling depressed because at the moment I feel like I'm never going to be part of a happy couple myself, or even have any sort of close relationship with anybody.

caitlin (caitlin), Saturday, 28 May 2005 19:25 (twenty-one years ago)

the office gossip smells!
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OF LORRIES!

picsa, Monday, 30 May 2005 18:28 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh, definitely. And the person I'd rather not see works in the haulage division, so probably DOES smell of lorries all the time.

caitlin (caitlin), Monday, 30 May 2005 18:31 (twenty-one years ago)

I don't understand why you think I would shout at you. You're about the last person on ILx I'd want to shout at. All I would advise, as I have done on previous threads, is that if you are working in the kind of environment where attendance of office parties is made compulsory (cf. House Mother Normal by BS Johnson), then you need to find another environment in which to work.

And hey, Caitlin, guess what? I'm feeling like crap at the moment. My life is going nowhere. I never do anything (apart from going to work, shopping, reading, listening to music, and other essential bodily functions) or see anyone, or indeed interact with anyone, family or not, apart from going up to see my mum periodically. Oh, and I'm the odd-looking one in the back office who acts creepy all the time. I don't see any of my work colleagues outside work and they never see me.

My writing career has gone pear-shaped. My blog is dead. The book deal is a no-deal.

Those who were genuine "friends" I have allowed to drift away.

You see, Caitlin, it's not just you...

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Tuesday, 31 May 2005 05:36 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm the odd-looking one in the back office who acts creepy all the time.

My writing career has gone pear-shaped. My blog is dead. The book deal is a no-deal.

Those who were genuine "friends" I have allowed to drift away.

If I'd ever had a writing career, then you would be me!

I've just found out that someone else at work had a party at the weekend, and invited everyone in the building except me. Look how popular I am.

caitlin (caitlin), Tuesday, 31 May 2005 06:49 (twenty-one years ago)

(oh, the "Marcello will start shouting at me" was because when I started this thread I thought that it would probably end up with me trying to persuade people to tell me that killing myself would be a good idea, and I know you'd disagree with that. It still might, eventually)

caitlin (caitlin), Tuesday, 31 May 2005 06:51 (twenty-one years ago)

caitlin i have emailed you off-board about this.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Tuesday, 31 May 2005 07:31 (twenty-one years ago)

Thanks. I'll reply later, after I get home.

caitlin (caitlin), Tuesday, 31 May 2005 08:02 (twenty-one years ago)

When's the party Caitlin?

beanz (beanz), Tuesday, 31 May 2005 08:09 (twenty-one years ago)

Saturday

caitlin (caitlin), Tuesday, 31 May 2005 08:12 (twenty-one years ago)

Which way are you leaning now?

beanz (beanz), Tuesday, 31 May 2005 08:15 (twenty-one years ago)

I *was* leaning towards going, but have since found out that the hosts have received acceptances from 50 people more than the capacity of the room they've hired. Which puts me off somewhat.

caitlin (caitlin), Tuesday, 31 May 2005 08:36 (twenty-one years ago)

You could tell everyone you're going, then not go - and nobody will know in the crush.

beanz (beanz), Tuesday, 31 May 2005 08:39 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah, say you're definitely going and really looking forward to it. Then don't show up and just say you were unwell or something. It sounds like you could do with an 'easier' entry into social interaction than this.

Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Tuesday, 31 May 2005 08:41 (twenty-one years ago)

That seems a little too dishonest, though

caitlin (caitlin), Tuesday, 31 May 2005 09:02 (twenty-one years ago)

I dunno, 50 more people in a space reserved for 200 doesn't sound like *that* much... God knows we've had 50 people parties in a 50 square meter apartment.

Tuomas (Tuomas), Tuesday, 31 May 2005 09:08 (twenty-one years ago)

You really need to tell gossip woman to bugger off and stop interfering in your life. If this results in her having a screaming fit in public and really discgracing herself professionally, so much the better. Open enmity is so much better than sly digging bitchery.

Liz :x (Liz :x), Tuesday, 31 May 2005 09:14 (twenty-one years ago)

Not necessarily, if you have to spend the next 5/10/20 years in the same office as her.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Tuesday, 31 May 2005 09:16 (twenty-one years ago)

Caitlin, how realistic are your chances of getting a job elsewhere? It sounds like you need a change of scene quite urgently to me.

AdrianB (AdrianB), Tuesday, 31 May 2005 09:34 (twenty-one years ago)

Slim. Plus, if I leave in the next year, I have to pay the company £1500 in training fees.

The Office Gossip hasn't actually spoken to me since Friday morning; I'm wondering if she might actually have realised how she's behaving. It's unlikely, though.

caitlin (caitlin), Tuesday, 31 May 2005 10:00 (twenty-one years ago)

If she asks you again, you could ask why she's so desperate for you to go. And you could follow up with asking why your social life concerns here so much. And if you say all that with a polite and friendly smile she might back off. (Er, like she might already have done.)

beanz (beanz), Tuesday, 31 May 2005 10:03 (twenty-one years ago)

here=her

beanz (beanz), Tuesday, 31 May 2005 10:03 (twenty-one years ago)

Caitlin, I've just seen this thread - I hope we'll talk about it before the weekend. I do think those who are saying go for it, but with an out, should be considered very seriously, but the main thing is whether you want to go. Bigger numbers going => easier to avoid someone specific, easier to avoid becoming isolated in a corner, easier to slip away quietly if/when you want to.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Tuesday, 31 May 2005 11:12 (twenty-one years ago)

I agree.

As things stand, you're feeling down. If you go, there is a chance you'll feel even more down having tried to do something different, and will confirm those parts of your thinking that want to make you the issue. But if you don't go, then you'll eventually feel down for not having gone, and therefore it will confirm those parts of you which will want to make you the issue.

Given that there's a likely you'll be in the same place, emotionally speaking, regardless, the issue comes from what ass-damaging (ass=ego cf Pulp Fiction here) things could happen.

Lots of people is a good thing. It means that you can slip away without it being a big thing (unlike say a house party, where there's usually a corridor of exit shame to be braved).

The more people there are, the higher likelihood of there being people there who are hoping that it's not full of smug marrieds of even worse, dull marrieds. There might be married who are looking to talk to someone who isn't utterly obsessed with work (since that will seemingly be the common factor).

My suggestion would be to acquire the party equivalent of a namebadge at a conference. Something that allows a complete stranger to walk up to you and make awkward smalltalk, when they simply want to start a conversation. It can be mundane, but provide the way for shy people to break the ice by giving them their introduction line. Football, for example, works well here - I'm not saying you should by an 'In Cod we Trust' Grimsby Town T-shirt; more that football shirts, by declaring an affiliation, give people a piece of information about you to start things off.

In other words, what Martin said.

Dave B (daveb), Tuesday, 31 May 2005 20:56 (twenty-one years ago)

have just got home. am a bit drunk.

party was much quieter than expected. avoideance-person was not there, but might have been hiding in the ohter bar with Office Gossip who disappeared for most of the night.

do not feel suicidal. delt v *meh* for a lot of the time, but was cheerful for a lot too.

did not dance, because nobody else did either. apart from people who vere VERY VERY drunk. drunker than me.

caitlin (caitlin), Saturday, 4 June 2005 22:12 (twenty-one years ago)

i am now worried that avoidance-person was not there because of trying to avoid *me* :-(

caitlin (caitlin), Saturday, 4 June 2005 22:22 (twenty-one years ago)

the funnny thing about parties is that typically, they suck. but it's surely good that you went.

avoidance person, Saturday, 4 June 2005 22:23 (twenty-one years ago)

probably. my life is still crap though. and noone will ever want to have kinky sex with me ever again.

(end standard whining plz)

caitlin (caitlin), Saturday, 4 June 2005 22:26 (twenty-one years ago)

Let the exotic whining commence!

Aimless (Aimless), Saturday, 4 June 2005 23:55 (twenty-one years ago)

props for going and having an ok time caitlyn!

gem (trisk), Sunday, 5 June 2005 01:18 (twenty-one years ago)

Caitlin, I'm glad that you went. you're social life won't get better till you get out of the rut that you are in. Easier said than done I know however you've already taken a step forward by going to this crappy party! You go girl!

Miss Misery (thatgirl), Sunday, 5 June 2005 01:47 (twenty-one years ago)

awesome caitlin! and if avoidance person didn't go because he was avoiding you maybe that's a good thing, means it's his problem and not yours.

Maria (Maria), Sunday, 5 June 2005 04:19 (twenty-one years ago)

Yay Caitlin! I'm sure you'll have kinky sex again, too.

Tuomas (Tuomas), Sunday, 5 June 2005 12:47 (twenty-one years ago)


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