Cruise Launches War on PsychiatristsTom Cruise has declared a public war on psychiatrists because he fears the "pseudo-science" has led to a drug-fuelled crisis for today's children. The movie hunk was diagnosed as dyslexic when he was just seven, and doctors suggested he should take drugs to control his learning problems. Memories of that part of his childhood fuelled Cruise to seek alternative ways of overcoming his dyslexia - a problem that led him to the Church of Scientology's educational programs. Becoming a scientologist in 1984 made the actor look closely at the controversial religion's anti-psychiatry stance, and he has since become a firm believer that the science and the medicating of children is wrong. Speaking exclusively to US news show Access Hollywood as part of a week-long special about his scientology beliefs, the movie hunk declares, "I'm going right after psychiatry and these false labels and this pseudo-science. I was diagnosed as dyslexic; I had a lot of energy as a child. They wanted to put me on drugs... Never did; my mother said no, absolutely not, no way and I'm thankful. Had I been put on those drugs, I never would be here today... I never would have had the career that I'm having. Am I making people aware of it by discussing it openly and saying what a fraud psychiatry is? You bet I am. I feel a responsibility because I care..." The actor also maintains that poor results in education in America can be blamed on mind-altering drugs that are given to children. He adds, "SAT (exam) scores have gone right down the toilet. The parents are blaming the teachers, the teachers are blaming the parents and the psychs are putting everyone on drugs."
Tom Cruise has declared a public war on psychiatrists because he fears the "pseudo-science" has led to a drug-fuelled crisis for today's children. The movie hunk was diagnosed as dyslexic when he was just seven, and doctors suggested he should take drugs to control his learning problems. Memories of that part of his childhood fuelled Cruise to seek alternative ways of overcoming his dyslexia - a problem that led him to the Church of Scientology's educational programs. Becoming a scientologist in 1984 made the actor look closely at the controversial religion's anti-psychiatry stance, and he has since become a firm believer that the science and the medicating of children is wrong. Speaking exclusively to US news show Access Hollywood as part of a week-long special about his scientology beliefs, the movie hunk declares, "I'm going right after psychiatry and these false labels and this pseudo-science. I was diagnosed as dyslexic; I had a lot of energy as a child. They wanted to put me on drugs... Never did; my mother said no, absolutely not, no way and I'm thankful. Had I been put on those drugs, I never would be here today... I never would have had the career that I'm having. Am I making people aware of it by discussing it openly and saying what a fraud psychiatry is? You bet I am. I feel a responsibility because I care..." The actor also maintains that poor results in education in America can be blamed on mind-altering drugs that are given to children. He adds, "SAT (exam) scores have gone right down the toilet. The parents are blaming the teachers, the teachers are blaming the parents and the psychs are putting everyone on drugs."
note that the current problem with the supposed over-prescribing of ritalin is from family DOCTORS, not necessarily the phsrinks.
Still, thank God that such he chose to reveal this exclusive interview to the journalistic bulwark that is Access Hollywood.
― kingfish maximum overdrunk (Kingfish), Sunday, 29 May 2005 17:18 (twenty-one years ago)
― fcuss3n, Sunday, 29 May 2005 17:26 (twenty-one years ago)
― s1ocki (slutsky), Sunday, 29 May 2005 17:28 (twenty-one years ago)
― ibid., Sunday, 29 May 2005 17:29 (twenty-one years ago)
i wonder how they ever settled on Katie though. it's not like she was going anywhere
― Vichitravirya XI, Sunday, 29 May 2005 17:34 (twenty-one years ago)
― Aimless (Aimless), Sunday, 29 May 2005 17:40 (twenty-one years ago)
― Community Cornerstone (deangulberry), Sunday, 29 May 2005 18:16 (twenty-one years ago)
HOLLYWOOD, May 25, 2005
Cruise Slams Shields' Drug UseBy WENN............................................Tom Cruise has criticized Hollywood pal Brooke Shields' "misguided" use of the anti-depressant Paxil, while declaring the actress' career as over.
In an interview with Billy Bush on the TV show Access Hollywood, to be screened on May 26, Cruise speaks of his disappointment to learn Shields used Paxil to fight post-natal depression following the birth of her daughter Rowan.
Shields is currently weaning herself off her medication so she and husband Chris Henchy can have another child.
Cruise, who claims to have helped people fight drug addictions through his controversial Scientology religion, says the Suddenly Susan actress should have used vitamins to help her feelings of despair.
Cruise says, "Here is a woman, and I care about Brooke Shields because I think she is an incredibly talented woman. You look at, where has her career gone?"
Despite the Minority Report actor's declaration her career is over, Shields is currently receiving rave reviews playing murderess Roxie Hart in the London theatre production of Chicago.
Cruise maintains, "These drugs are dangerous. I have actually helped people come off.
"When you talk about postpartum, you can take people today, women, and what you do is you use vitamins. There is a hormonal thing that is going on, scientifically, you can prove that. But when you talk about emotional, chemical imbalances in people, there is no science behind that.
"You can use vitamins to help a woman through those things
― nathalie's baby (stevie nixed), Sunday, 29 May 2005 18:22 (twenty-one years ago)
― Gear! (can Jung shill it, Mu?) (Gear!), Sunday, 29 May 2005 18:50 (twenty-one years ago)
― kevin says relax (daddy warbuxx), Sunday, 29 May 2005 18:52 (twenty-one years ago)
― nathalie's baby (stevie nixed), Sunday, 29 May 2005 18:59 (twenty-one years ago)
― s1ocki (slutsky), Sunday, 29 May 2005 19:02 (twenty-one years ago)
― Tom Cruise, Sunday, 29 May 2005 19:04 (twenty-one years ago)
I haven't, but I can totally see that being the case. I'd love to poke my head in there but I'm worried that I'd get attacked and wind up getting the old "stress test" from Tommy boy.
― Community Cornerstone (deangulberry), Sunday, 29 May 2005 19:08 (twenty-one years ago)
― j blount (papa la bas), Sunday, 29 May 2005 19:17 (twenty-one years ago)
― Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Sunday, 29 May 2005 19:20 (twenty-one years ago)
xpost amateurist otm
― Dan I. (Dan I.), Sunday, 29 May 2005 19:21 (twenty-one years ago)
― s1ocki (slutsky), Sunday, 29 May 2005 19:21 (twenty-one years ago)
He's opposed to everything the Scientologist leaders tell him to be opposed to, natch.
― caitlin (caitlin), Sunday, 29 May 2005 19:24 (twenty-one years ago)
― Dan I. (Dan I.), Sunday, 29 May 2005 19:24 (twenty-one years ago)
― Dan I. (Dan I.), Sunday, 29 May 2005 19:26 (twenty-one years ago)
― Dan I. (Dan I.), Sunday, 29 May 2005 19:29 (twenty-one years ago)
― j blount (papa la bas), Sunday, 29 May 2005 19:31 (twenty-one years ago)
― roxymuzak (roxymuzak), Sunday, 29 May 2005 19:32 (twenty-one years ago)
― miccio (miccio), Sunday, 29 May 2005 19:36 (twenty-one years ago)
― Dan I. (Dan I.), Sunday, 29 May 2005 19:40 (twenty-one years ago)
― Dan I. (Dan I.), Sunday, 29 May 2005 19:42 (twenty-one years ago)
― miccio (miccio), Sunday, 29 May 2005 19:43 (twenty-one years ago)
I read that part of the Scientologist programming is that when you start to _doubt_ yourself and your choices (Scientology), there are embedded hypnosis commands that will create physical pain or crushing mental discomfort. At this point, of course, a brainwashed 'tologist will call his Scientology master and say, "I'm breaking down! I don't feel good!" and that will be the tip-off that the brainwashing is starting to fade away, so they give you some "emergency therapy" which is more brainwashing to make you feel good again. All of the brainwashing has these little embedded commands that tip off the organization when you need a "tune up."
― Unfortunate Prankster (Unfortunate Prankster), Sunday, 29 May 2005 20:01 (twenty-one years ago)
― miccio (miccio), Sunday, 29 May 2005 20:47 (twenty-one years ago)
― miccio (miccio), Sunday, 29 May 2005 20:52 (twenty-one years ago)
― miccio (miccio), Sunday, 29 May 2005 20:55 (twenty-one years ago)
I wish I could find it now. The guy is seriously deluded.
― Trayce (trayce), Sunday, 29 May 2005 21:59 (twenty-one years ago)
― Dan I. (Dan I.), Sunday, 29 May 2005 22:03 (twenty-one years ago)
― Trayce (trayce), Sunday, 29 May 2005 22:04 (twenty-one years ago)
SPIEGEL: That's not correct. Yours is never mentioned among the recognized detox programs. Independent experts warn against it because it is rooted in pseudo science.
Cruise: You don't understand what I am saying. It's a statistically proven fact that there is only one successful drug rehabilitation program in the world. Period.
SPIEGEL: With all due respect, we doubt that.
Indeed.
― Trayce (trayce), Sunday, 29 May 2005 22:05 (twenty-one years ago)
― mike h. (mike h.), Sunday, 29 May 2005 22:21 (twenty-one years ago)
― Forksclovetofu (Forksclovetofu), Sunday, 29 May 2005 22:24 (twenty-one years ago)
― Trayce (trayce), Sunday, 29 May 2005 22:37 (twenty-one years ago)
― latebloomer: B Minus Time Traveler (latebloomer), Sunday, 29 May 2005 22:46 (twenty-one years ago)
early mid-70's statue of 'Ritalin Man' designed by the pharms to promote the drug to children:
http://www.toymuseum.com/inside/c3/3265044.html
it's so honest: a friendly man taking off his hat to reveal that there is absolutely nothing on the inside of his head
http://www.toymuseum.com/inside/c3/3265044.gif
― milton parker (Jon L), Sunday, 29 May 2005 23:58 (twenty-one years ago)
― Gear! (can Jung shill it, Mu?) (Gear!), Monday, 30 May 2005 00:06 (twenty-one years ago)
― Trayce (trayce), Monday, 30 May 2005 00:14 (twenty-one years ago)
― slightly more subdued (kenan), Monday, 30 May 2005 00:21 (twenty-one years ago)
― Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Monday, 30 May 2005 00:28 (twenty-one years ago)
kenan, they do work for some people, they really do.
― Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Monday, 30 May 2005 00:31 (twenty-one years ago)
― Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Monday, 30 May 2005 00:32 (twenty-one years ago)
― Trayce (trayce), Monday, 30 May 2005 00:41 (twenty-one years ago)
― Forksclovetofu (Forksclovetofu), Monday, 30 May 2005 01:00 (twenty-one years ago)
― kit brash (kit brash), Monday, 30 May 2005 03:17 (twenty-one years ago)
― The Sensational Sulk (sexyDancer), Thursday, 2 June 2005 17:57 (twenty-one years ago)
― caitlin (caitlin), Thursday, 2 June 2005 18:20 (twenty-one years ago)
but even that is backwards from most religions - the core of the most enduring traditions ARE the basic ethical precepts. The Ten Commandments, the Eightfold Path, etc. These are presented as more important than personal happiness, as enduring words to live by that supercede any kind of selfish focus on the individual. For Scientology, ethics are secondary to 1) making money and 2) personal happiness, and this is made fairly explicit. They frame their "religion" as one in which the individual attains happiness, wealth, and power through a series of strict, economically quantifiable steps. This is vastly different from (most) other religions wherein the central preoccupation is with living a morally upright life, studying the "truth", etc.
― Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 2 June 2005 18:50 (twenty-one years ago)
― Miss Misery (thatgirl), Thursday, 2 June 2005 18:53 (twenty-one years ago)
Hm. Maybe I will join Scientology. Does it work?
― ReNTBAPA: Resolute Not To Be A Prick Anymore (Unfortunate Prankster), Thursday, 2 June 2005 19:06 (twenty-one years ago)
― Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 2 June 2005 19:09 (twenty-one years ago)
Not really. See, the guys that make the money are already in the organization. You're just handing them your cash. Lots of it. If you want to screw people on your own, you're better off just going the Nietzschian route.
― Alan Conceicao (Alan Conceicao), Thursday, 2 June 2005 19:11 (twenty-one years ago)
― Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 2 June 2005 19:15 (twenty-one years ago)
― ReNTBAPA: Resolute Not To Be A Prick Anymore (Unfortunate Prankster), Thursday, 2 June 2005 19:15 (twenty-one years ago)
― Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 2 June 2005 19:17 (twenty-one years ago)
― Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Thursday, 2 June 2005 19:18 (twenty-one years ago)
― ReNTBAPA: Resolute Not To Be A Prick Anymore (Unfortunate Prankster), Thursday, 2 June 2005 19:19 (twenty-one years ago)
― The Sensational Sulk (sexyDancer), Thursday, 2 June 2005 19:22 (twenty-one years ago)
― sleep (sleep), Thursday, 2 June 2005 19:43 (twenty-one years ago)
― nabisco (nabisco), Thursday, 2 June 2005 19:57 (twenty-one years ago)
also you have too many body thetans.
― Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 2 June 2005 19:59 (twenty-one years ago)
― jw (orion), Thursday, 2 June 2005 20:07 (twenty-one years ago)
― Mary (Mary), Friday, 3 June 2005 04:11 (twenty-one years ago)
So creepy.
not particularly--that could be seen as a starmaking business strategy.
― s1ocki (slutsky), Friday, 3 June 2005 12:08 (twenty-one years ago)
― Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Friday, 3 June 2005 12:41 (twenty-one years ago)
― anthony easton (anthony), Friday, 3 June 2005 13:06 (twenty-one years ago)
― Forksclovetofu (Forksclovetofu), Saturday, 4 June 2005 04:11 (twenty-one years ago)
http://www.defamer.com/hollywood/gossip/tom-cruise/photoblogging-tom-cruise-on-oprah-104673.php
― Brother Builder (Unfortunate Prankster), Sunday, 5 June 2005 06:00 (twenty-one years ago)
― kingfish maximum overdrunk (Kingfish), Sunday, 5 June 2005 06:13 (twenty-one years ago)
http://www.oprahwinfrey.de/Bilder/Bilder/Tom%20Cruise_jpg.jpg
― Amon (eman), Sunday, 5 June 2005 06:33 (twenty-one years ago)
http://www.scientologytoday.org/corp/img/emeter.jpg
― Amon (eman), Sunday, 5 June 2005 06:36 (twenty-one years ago)
― Amon (eman), Sunday, 5 June 2005 06:37 (twenty-one years ago)
― Amon (eman), Sunday, 5 June 2005 06:39 (twenty-one years ago)
(xxxxpost)
― caitlin (caitlin), Sunday, 5 June 2005 06:45 (twenty-one years ago)
Along the way Burroughs experimented with yet another technique for going deeper into one's mental filters: Scientology. L. Ron Hubbard, creator of Scientology, was teaching that memories of events, or of words overheard while sleeping, and even of past life events were stored in a person's unconscious mental record. By bringing this information out into the open, the emotional charge on this baggage could be "cleared". What so impressed Burroughs was the effectiveness of the Scientology techniques. He once wrote that one could accomplish more with 10 hours of Scientology techniques than with 10 years of psychotherapy. He felt he accomplished a great deal of self healing through applying their methods, and for a time he was obsessed with "audits" and "E-meters".
But as he penetrated more deeply into the church he discovered that the visionary Hubbard was also an eccentric fascist and that his "church" used appallingly effective mind control techniques to assure a steady supply of loyalty, secrecy, and cash. Burroughs found it sickening and ironic that a tool effective for setting people free was being used to enslave them in other ways. He broke with Scientology and went on to blab all that he knew. (Note that a man with fewer guns might not have been so brave! Scientology had a strong policy of punishing those who broke the silence or pissed them off.)
― Amon (eman), Sunday, 5 June 2005 06:47 (twenty-one years ago)
Oprah says her best friends are Tom Cruise and John Travolta. She also seems quite fond of Kirstie Ally.
Oh, and poor fucking Beck. He is TOTALLY a Scientologist. I had thought it was just a rumor, but he admitted it, donates to Scientology, married and had a baby with a Scientologist who comes from a Scientologist family and a whole bunch of obviously weird shit. I almost wonder if they groomed him to become a famous musician from the start in order to rake in big bucks for them.
― Brother Builder (Unfortunate Prankster), Sunday, 5 June 2005 07:16 (twenty-one years ago)
A few random comments on reading the above, that to me are important to re-iterate, I guess with the overarching theme that when we are talking about mental health, it is best not to form generalizations (usually based on your own personal experience and/or that of your immediate social circle). These are such complex issues with such a huge range of variability in experience.
A mental disorder != a mental disorder != a mental disorder, and therefore the respective role that medication might play in treating is different depending on what it is you are talking about. All other things being equal, for example, I would view psychotropic meds as being an essential part of treatment for full-blown schizophrenia, whereas it is not necessarily essential for major depression.
It also depends a lot on each individual's case, and what they are bringing to the table. There are people I see who clearly walk into our office expecting to be 'shown the magic pill' to make their problems vanish (they are fooling themselves--no such pill or combination of pills exists). On the other extreme, there are also people for whom medication potentially could help them quite a bit, but they are not willing to entertain the thought of even trying it just to see if it could help them.
So, there is no easy answer or generalization you can make, psychiatric meds are 'always evil' or 'always good', that is a tenable one. If Tom Cruise's take is that meds are 'always evil' or 'should not be considered', it seems to me he is taking his own personal experience and trying to apply it to everyone--to be fair to him, I see people do this all the time when talking about mental health disorders. But it usually results in supremely naive and overly simplistic positions. In the case of Cruise, one that refuses to confront the fact that psychiatric meds have genuinely helped a lot of people--and I say that from the position of someone whose own admitted bias, as a therapist and personally, is that people don't look as much as they should towards making changes in their behavior and lifestyle.
One of my supervisors at work uses an analogy that I quite like--think of a salmon trying to swim upstream against a huge waterfall to reach a certain homebound destination. Medication is like levelling-out the slope of the waterfall so that you can swim more unobstructed, whereas psychotherapy is like teaching you to swim more efficiently. At the end of the day, you still need to be able to swim forward if you with to reach your destination (whatever goal you have). And maybe you may conclude that the speed/efficiency with which you naturally swim may or may not 'work' enough for you as it is; but leveling the slope of the waterfall in and of itself probably isn't going to be enough to get you to where you want to be.
― Joe (Joe), Sunday, 5 June 2005 17:46 (twenty-one years ago)
― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Sunday, 5 June 2005 18:12 (twenty-one years ago)
― Brother Builder (Unfortunate Prankster), Sunday, 5 June 2005 19:54 (twenty-one years ago)
go brooke!!!
― Vichitravirya XI, Sunday, 5 June 2005 20:44 (twenty-one years ago)
― Brother Builder (Unfortunate Prankster), Sunday, 5 June 2005 21:09 (twenty-one years ago)
― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Sunday, 5 June 2005 21:23 (twenty-one years ago)
― Brother Builder (Unfortunate Prankster), Sunday, 5 June 2005 21:54 (twenty-one years ago)
― kyle (akmonday), Sunday, 5 June 2005 21:58 (twenty-one years ago)
― suzy (suzy), Sunday, 5 June 2005 22:03 (twenty-one years ago)
AWWWW SNAP
― kingfish maximum overdrunk (Kingfish), Sunday, 5 June 2005 22:30 (twenty-one years ago)
Life must be tough for Katie Holmes, the new virgin queen of Hollywood.
In Sin City, few will wait until the wedding night to consummate their passion. That casting couch legend didn't just procreate itself, after all. And hey, in the disposable world of show biz, the other person might not be famous the next morning, never mind the day of a wedding months later. It's just unthinkable to wait that long.
But not for Holmes, 26. She has taken a solemn vow to stay a virgin until her honeymoon.
She could have dodged all the bedtime bother by dating a notorious closet homosexual and have him declare his undying love for her. Instead, she chose to fall for testosterone-charged action man Tom Cruise, 42.
― estela (estela), Monday, 6 June 2005 00:34 (twenty-one years ago)
― jed_ (jed), Monday, 6 June 2005 00:39 (twenty-one years ago)
― estela (estela), Monday, 6 June 2005 00:42 (twenty-one years ago)
From what I can gather so far, there is no mention of aliens! I do know that Hubbard grabbed his core techniques from other sources and, as William Burroughs said above, used these effective tools for setting people free to enslave them in other ways.
Googling Self Clearing The Pilot will allow you to find the document as a txt, word doc, pdf or web formatted version. It's 300 pages or so.
― Brother Builder (Unfortunate Prankster), Monday, 6 June 2005 01:22 (twenty-one years ago)
― Brother Builder (Unfortunate Prankster), Monday, 6 June 2005 15:19 (twenty-one years ago)
― The Ghost of SHAKE IT LIKE A POLAROID PICTURE (Dan Perry), Monday, 6 June 2005 15:28 (twenty-one years ago)
― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 6 June 2005 15:33 (twenty-one years ago)
i hope this is poker-faced humor
― Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Monday, 6 June 2005 16:55 (twenty-one years ago)
― feminazi (feminazi), Saturday, 8 October 2005 21:02 (twenty years ago)