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― I do feel guilty for getting any perverse amusement out of it (Rock Hardy), Friday, 4 November 2005 17:59 (twenty years ago)
that is awesome
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― Ben Mott (Ben Mott), Wednesday, 15 February 2006 13:30 (twenty years ago)
May it stay dead
NBC's planned reboot of the seventies private-eye classic series The Rockford Files, with mildly beloved rom-com prince Dermot Mulroney taking James Garner's iconic role, was one of the most hyped pilots of the fall. Many said it was a gimme to make the lineup: It's based on the iconic James Garner series, and was produced by Steve Carell and House executive producer David Shore. What could go wrong? Oh, wait, this could: A pilot so bad that it seemed like a crime. In fact, if it weren't for Carell and Shore's involvement, NBC would have written off the project days ago. Now, as the execs consider what to do, and with their upfront just four days away, this much is clear: If the show does make the fall schedule, it will be in a vastly different form from what was just shot.
― Elvis Telecom, Thursday, 13 May 2010 18:54 (sixteen years ago)
Yeah just watch all the old eps on netflix streaming. So good.
― mayor jingleberries, Thursday, 13 May 2010 19:02 (sixteen years ago)
Plans to remake the series are still active, with some "Lost" guy?... must...be...stopped
― kind of shrill and very self-righteous (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 23 September 2010 20:07 (fifteen years ago)
RIP Stephen J. Cannell
― In "Bob" There Is No East or West (WmC), Friday, 1 October 2010 22:28 (fifteen years ago)
Saw this photo on one of the Southern California storm news articles and immediately thought that Jim was going to have a bad day.
http://cache.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/7/2010/12/107719326_01.jpg
― Stockhausen's Ekranoplan Quartet (Elvis Telecom), Thursday, 23 December 2010 08:31 (fifteen years ago)
!
― Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Thursday, 23 December 2010 08:35 (fifteen years ago)
so into rockford right now. two episodes each night between work & bed (with time for dinner and a few drinks) = perfect
― one dis leads to another (ian), Saturday, 2 April 2011 01:43 (fifteen years ago)
Jim Rockford: This is Jim Rockford. At the tone leave your name and message, I'll get back to you.
Evelyn 'Angel' Martin: [hurried voice] Jimmy? Angel. Here's a tip but his hand writing's bad. Third Son in the fifth race at Belle Meadows. Wait! Could be Fifth Son in the third. Wait,,,this... might... be... next weeks race.
― LSD Sound System (m coleman), Saturday, 2 April 2011 11:49 (fifteen years ago)
http://i54.tinypic.com/2ds06qp.jpg
n.b. i have never seen tRF
― three megabytes of hot RAM (abanana), Saturday, 2 April 2011 14:22 (fifteen years ago)
ROCKFORD.
― one dis leads to another (ian), Monday, 11 April 2011 02:41 (fifteen years ago)
are there any great episodic shows on anymore? All the water cooler shows are serials now, right? Idk I was thinking about this today in the wake of James Garner passing away, how every TV show these days seems to be such an investment of time and concentration and nothing seems to have what the rockford files had. I'm probably not thinking of something kinda obvious here. Also it makes me wonder how often anyone would return to some of these current shows, no matter how great, due that that commitment. Not bemoaning their existence, maybe bemoaning the lack of skillful episodics. Not really counting L&O/CSI/NCIS here, though I generally kinda like those to some extent.
― LIKE If you are against racism (omar little), Monday, 21 July 2014 04:06 (eleven years ago)
It's a dying art for sure. I'm just guessing, but maybe it has to do with the changing economies of the syndication business. It must have been lucrative for their respective production companies when shows like Rockford and Ironside and Hawaii Five-0 etc. were on TV in reruns every day across the country. Now those shows are on DVDs but it seems that a show with a self-contained story arc is more attractive to people renting DVDs.
Also the difference between network TV and cable. Guessing again, but did it have to do with actors' contracts, financing, etc. that traditional networks liked to work with a September-to-April season whereas HBO and their ilk work more effectively one project at a time?
― Josefa, Monday, 21 July 2014 15:40 (eleven years ago)
It seems to me quite a leap to assume that the show you're gonna do would be a syndication goldmine back then -- it had to run at least 3 years, p much, and Garner had some failed series that I'd never even heard of.
― son of a lewd monk (Dr Morbius), Monday, 21 July 2014 16:02 (eleven years ago)
True, there were a ton of interesting shows from the 60s/70s that are now forgotten because they lasted one or two seasons and had no afterlife (David Janssen's Harry O is a good example..) Also I seem to recall there have been fading series that were extended another season or two to qualify for a better syndication deal.
But what was a long shot then is not even a possibility today, perhaps?
― Josefa, Monday, 21 July 2014 16:24 (eleven years ago)
Watched the premiere last night... James Woods was his client! with Abe Vigoda as a union head very much like Tessio.
― son of a lewd monk (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 28 August 2014 12:10 (eleven years ago)
prob gonna stick to these right now to save time... looking fwd to the one w/ Joseph Cotten.
http://www.marketwatch.com/story/james-garners-10-best-rockford-files-episodes-ever-2014-07-22
― son of a lewd monk (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 28 August 2014 16:23 (eleven years ago)
t/s columbo vs rockford
― the late great, Sunday, 31 August 2014 21:20 (eleven years ago)
Rockford by a blue million miles. Columbo schtick got old with me after 2 episodes.
― Malibu Stasi (WilliamC), Sunday, 31 August 2014 21:31 (eleven years ago)
Ok, you like Rockford better. Thanks for your time.
― pplains, Monday, 1 September 2014 03:06 (eleven years ago)
Hmm.
But just one more question for you, if you don't mind?
Won't take a second.
Would you say you prefer Rockford over ... MAVERICK?
― pplains, Monday, 1 September 2014 03:10 (eleven years ago)
pplains I rly like the dad joke you kicked off this thread w/, were you a dad then?
― Spirit of Match Game '76 (silby), Monday, 1 September 2014 03:11 (eleven years ago)
not that i was aware of!
― pplains, Monday, 1 September 2014 03:20 (eleven years ago)
(^^ dad "joke")
Lieutenant, I can assure you I'd never heard of Maverick until my secretary told me about it yesterday.
― Malibu Stasi (WilliamC), Monday, 1 September 2014 03:23 (eleven years ago)
Yesterday... That's interesting.
― pplains, Monday, 1 September 2014 03:28 (eleven years ago)
Again, thanks for your answer. enjoy the DVDs.
After years of hemming and hawing about it and never having seen an episode, I finally started watching this recently on Netflix. Goddamn, is this a good show. It doesn't feel aged in the half-sketched way that similar shows of the era do today. Super engrossing and well-written. And fun! Garner is a great lead. The guest stars on almost every episode I've seen moved on to their own shows or sizeable movie roles within a couple of years.
I think I might splurge on the complete series DVD set (partially for the latter-day TV movies, which don't appear to be on Netflix).
― a charisma-free shitlord (Old Lunch), Monday, 1 August 2016 17:56 (nine years ago)
Also: so many car chases! I had no idea. One of the episodes had like a fifteen minute car chase scene with no dialogue whatsoever.
Also also: I hope the episode structures remain varied and unconventional. Lots of in medias res employment, etc. The show doesn't hold your hand.
― a charisma-free shitlord (Old Lunch), Monday, 1 August 2016 18:00 (nine years ago)
Did anyone ever see the weird Philip Marlowe movie with Garner from 1969? It's loosely based on a Chandler story but goes in some fairly wacky directions, including Bruce Lee turning up as a heavy at one point. Garner's Marlowe is basically Jim Rockford in all but name.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mIgTl-rXmOk
― Pheeel, Monday, 1 August 2016 20:06 (nine years ago)
Four shots whenever Mills Watson shows uphttps://img4.bdbphotos.com/images/230x300/1/r/1rk51zy0q0e30zqy.jpgI think he played at least four different Rockford characters over the years.
― Marty J. Bilge (Old Lunch), Sunday, 29 August 2021 01:55 (four years ago)
You are inducing a Proustian rush and making me want to watch this whole thing again.I want to live in the world where we got an actual spin-off with Louis Gossett, Jr. and Isaac Hayes instead of just the backdoor pilot.
― Marty J. Bilge (Old Lunch), Sunday, 29 August 2021 01:59 (four years ago)
The thing that bums me out is that I didnt have ~this~ level of appreciation for Garner while he was alive. i always liked him but jesus, what a singular talent.
― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 29 August 2021 02:02 (four years ago)
the way the show writers seem to give women a bit more more personality than they would normally get in a show like this
From the terrific crimereads essay linked upthread:
For a 1970s detective, Jim Rockford has impressively few cringey moments with the show’s female guests, a series of vivid and believable women often created by writer-producer Juanita Bartlett. With women, Rockford is a courtly good listener who happens to live in a trailer. We are told that he used to date his lawyer, Beth (Gretchen Corbett) and the writers occasionally break Jim’s heart with a disappearing fiancée or a blind psychologist girlfriend who dumps him. (Rita Moreno won an Emmy portraying a prostitute and police informant whom Jim helps.) Old flames (Susan Strasberg or Valerie Pointer) return mainly when they want him to fix something in their lives or to set him up as the fall guy delivering a briefcase. He loyally complies, and often regrets it.
― Precious, Grace, Hill & Beard LTD. (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 29 August 2021 02:04 (four years ago)
― Marty J. Bilge (Old Lunch), Sunday, 29 August 2021 02:09 (four years ago)
I want to live in the world where we got an actual spin-off with Louis Gossett, Jr. and Isaac Hayes instead of just the backdoor pilot.
Damn straight! Every few months I search YouTube in vain for the scene where they smash up the Nazi bar.
― Precious, Grace, Hill & Beard LTD. (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 29 August 2021 02:11 (four years ago)
Is it Isaac Hayes who shows up at the trailer while Rockford's away, sits down on the curb, and starts smoking cigarettes until sunset?
Hate to say it, but my first impression of that was, "Wow, I guess smoking would be a good time-killer."
― pplains, Sunday, 29 August 2021 02:42 (four years ago)
Yeah, that was him in his first appearance. He did three total, with the last one pairing him with Dionne Warwick (who sings a Stevie Wonder song)!
― Precious, Grace, Hill & Beard LTD. (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 29 August 2021 02:54 (four years ago)
Stories are sometimes boring or over-complicated
imo they didn't really dial in the magic and tighten things up properly until partway through season 2 or thereabouts.
Maybe an unpopular opinion, but my favorite season is 4. The Mayor of Deer Lick Falls is one of the most entertaining hours of series televison ever. The Battle of Canoga Park is at once funny and eerily prescient, w story concerning a right-wing militia group and "patriots" obsessed with conservative talk radio. Irving the Explainer is David Chase going nuts spoofing absurdly convoluted Chandler-esque plotlines.
The season kicks off with Jim having to sheepishly explain to Rocky how he fucked up and gambled away a ton of money on what was supposed to be a modest vacation... The one dud I remember is one which almost becomes One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest. But mostly the writing is so crisp, Jim's character is so crystallized by that point and effortlessly inhabited in a way that makes the average person's real-life persona seem hopelessly fraudulent, and Angel shines so brightly such that the imperfections are almost reassuring to us mortals.
Barnaby Jones is even better, but most of y'all aren't ready for that.
― dell (del), Sunday, 29 August 2021 06:20 (four years ago)
I've never heard a peep one way or the other about Barnaby Jones before but I've been slowly picking my way through Streets of San Francisco and enjoying it a helluva lot more than I expected to so I would be open to giving another A QUINN MARTIN PRODUCTION a shot.
― Marty J. Bilge (Old Lunch), Sunday, 29 August 2021 13:02 (four years ago)
Another banger of a theme tune.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mijBMpnS3a4
― "Bobby Gillespie" (ft. Heroin) (Tom D.), Sunday, 29 August 2021 13:10 (four years ago)
Barnaby Jones is even better, but most of y'all aren't ready for that
This is big, if true. I haven’t seen Barnaby Jones since the ‘70s but would be interested in hearing about its qualities.
Watching Rockford S4 on dell’s recommendation (p sure I’ve seen S1-S3 already). First ep has a swell performance from James Whitmore, Jr. as a slippery type everyone will recognize. As always it’s the realness of the characterizations and the acknowledgment that all humans are flawed that is the strength of the show. This ep also has the actor who played James Garner’s brother on Maverick.
― Josefa, Monday, 30 August 2021 18:48 (four years ago)
Season 2 guest stars i have loved: Stephanie Powers! holy cats she really was magnetic & beautiful from the getgo, huhwhat a gal!
― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 3 September 2021 03:24 (four years ago)
There's a good one coming up with a young Blair Brown as a stylin' 240Z drivin' city attorney.
― Precious, Grace, Hill & Beard LTD. (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 3 September 2021 03:49 (four years ago)
holy cats she really was magnetic & beautiful from the getgo, huh
You should see Die! Die! My Darling.
― Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Friday, 3 September 2021 03:55 (four years ago)
...and Experiment In Terror, where she plays Lee Remick's sister.
― Precious, Grace, Hill & Beard LTD. (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 3 September 2021 03:59 (four years ago)
And a season one episode of Streets of San Francisco!
― Marty J. Bilge (Old Lunch), Friday, 3 September 2021 04:32 (four years ago)
i get it, she’s worked a LOT lol
― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 3 September 2021 04:44 (four years ago)
TIL she dated william holden for 9 years until his death in 1981 & said they were soul mates
― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 3 September 2021 04:45 (four years ago)
If I ever knew that I long ago forgot it so thanks. Probably belongs on Old time actors and directors that you were surprised to find out were married to each other once upon a time if we don’t already have it.
― Gwar ina Babyon (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 4 September 2021 20:20 (four years ago)
Just had the mental image of Angel trying explain NFTs to Rockford pic.twitter.com/iLISiCybCg— Art Of Coop (@ARTofCOOP) January 4, 2022
― Precious, Grace, Hill & Beard LTD. (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 4 January 2022 18:24 (four years ago)
I have the s2 DVDs, to watch concurrently with or when I finish s2 of Blakes 7, because I am clearly done with living in this century right now.
― feed me with your clicks (Noel Emits), Friday, 11 March 2022 21:03 (four years ago)
oh i am right there w you … we’re in S4 of Rockford and also watching Sanford & Son, and Taxi :D
― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 11 March 2022 21:40 (four years ago)
oh and cosign this 100% that was a killer episode
Precious, Grace, Hill & Beard LTD. (C. Grisso/McCain)Posted: August 28, 2021 at 7:11:40 PMI want to live in the world where we got an actual spin-off with Louis Gossett, Jr. and Isaac Hayes instead of just the backdoor pilot.Damn straight! Every few months I search YouTube in vain for the scene where they smash up the Nazi bar.
― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 11 March 2022 21:46 (four years ago)
deep into season 5 and I wince for Jim everytime they make him chase anyone on foot - have a heart, the poor guy’s knees are toast lots more guns and violence now in this tail end of the series, more gimmicks to gin up ratings etc we just watched S5E14 “Guilt” with a cool helicopter chase & explosionalso lol at this casually tossed off line from a minor character: “i’ve never lifted anything heavier than a coke spoon” mr veg and i were both like “whaaaaaat did she just say!?”
― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 11 July 2022 03:54 (three years ago)
Yeah, in addition to the added gunplay and violence, there's more grimey drug stuff too (I think because by that point you actually could do that on Network TV).
You've got "Return of The Black Shadow" w/Bo Hopkins coming up, which starts with one of the darkest premises of any ep so far.
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 11 July 2022 04:18 (three years ago)
And right after that is "A Material Difference", which was one of the best Angel eps.
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 11 July 2022 04:29 (three years ago)
Homestretch now - just finished s6e1 “Paradise Cove” costarring the Polaroid commercial lady :D Any suggestions for generally good shows from the era that I should explore next? Doesnt have to be detectivey.
― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 16 August 2022 03:58 (three years ago)
It's a little later (mid 80s), but I remember Spenser For Hire being slightly elevated against the riff-raff that was network tv at the time.
Looks like it's streamable, but not free. :(
― Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Tuesday, 16 August 2022 04:29 (three years ago)
Huh, looks like the only thing streaming is S1. That sucks. The dvd sets are out there, though.
― Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Tuesday, 16 August 2022 04:33 (three years ago)
Decades network is doing a Harry O marathon this weekend which I'm looking forward to...will report back re:it's viability.
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 16 August 2022 05:01 (three years ago)
Original Hawaii Five-O is amazing, especially the first six seasons.
Harry O starring David Janssen is v good - it had just two seasons. Farrah Fawcett-Majors had a supporting role in it for a while.
Not many people today talk about McMillan and Wife starring Rock Hudson & Susan Saint James, one of the mystery shows that rotated with Columbo in the '70s. It's like The Thin Man transposed to the swinging '70s. Often highly diverting, with cheekiness and charm taking precedence over believable plots.
A friend of mine swears by Vega$ starring Robert Urich. Tony Curtis is in it too.
― Josefa, Tuesday, 16 August 2022 05:08 (three years ago)
Also - last year I finished watching all the episodes of Kojak. It's a cool show all the way through its run, though I would recommend starting with s1. Kojak was the best-dressed cop on American TV ever and I like how comfortably he mingles with the entire ethnic patchwork of NYC as it was then. Ethnicity is in fact the main theme of the show, I'd say.
― Josefa, Tuesday, 16 August 2022 05:56 (three years ago)
ok this is pretty awesomeRockford Files credits recreated w Lego
THE ROCKFORD FILES (1974-80) in LEGO(for my Twitter bro @RexChapman) pic.twitter.com/UmSCGA1NsJ— Michael Warburton (@MichaelWarbur17) November 11, 2022
― werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 11 November 2022 20:47 (three years ago)
very cute.
― “Cheeky cheeky!” she trills, nearly demolishing a roadside post (forksclovetofu), Monday, 14 November 2022 04:27 (three years ago)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DhHqFN4K3O0
Rest In Power, King
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 13 December 2022 03:48 (three years ago)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HAivpss-irc
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 13 December 2022 04:31 (three years ago)
we should all place horse bets in his honor, RIP Angel
― werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 13 December 2022 04:47 (three years ago)
― werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 13 December 2022 04:57 (three years ago)
🐐🐐 BOTH . #stuartmargolin RIP 🌈🌈🌈🌈 pic.twitter.com/kTVZT7KrZv— Victor Sforza (@sforza_victor) December 13, 2022
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 13 December 2022 13:30 (three years ago)
DO NOT WANT
https://deadline.com/2026/01/the-rockford-files-reboot-nbc-order-pilot-season-1236681903/
― Lithium Just Madison (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 14 January 2026 00:52 (five months ago)
Didn't know about these other alternate futures:
The last major stab at a remake of the series came a decade and a half ago, also at NBC, with House and The Good Doctor creator David Shore as writer and Steve Carell as producer. The project went to pilot, starring Dermot Mulroney in the title role. Universal also developed a movie take with Vince Vaughn attached to star more than a decade ago.
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 14 January 2026 01:11 (five months ago)
Although I see Elvis properly trashed the news of the Dermot version a long while back!
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 14 January 2026 01:13 (five months ago)
if we have to have a reboot, who’s on our Jim wishlist?
― werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 14 January 2026 01:28 (five months ago)
not that i want this at all ever
Hmmmmm
https://deadline.com/2026/02/david-boreanaz-rockford-files-reboot-pilot-1236717591/
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 12 February 2026 20:23 (four months ago)
maaaaaaybe??
(i say this as a lapsed/former Boreanaz fangirl)
― werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 12 February 2026 22:36 (four months ago)
I'm shunning this false god
― Elvis Telecom, Saturday, 14 February 2026 02:11 (four months ago)
But speaking of true gods, a piece that will delight Elvis T and VG both (and everyone else). No news, just a celebration of all that is Rockford.
https://defector.com/the-rockford-files-remains-one-of-televisions-greatest-hangs?giftLink=51c7eb4fac5d82cce5ad488589a84d5e
― Ned Raggett, Saturday, 25 April 2026 22:33 (two months ago)
Once he’s on a case, Rockford’s commitment to getting the job done while expending the least possible effort should be an inspiration to us all. Trying to bail on a selectively honest client mid-episode is a move Rockford pulls with impressive regularity. If he needs to transform his appearance, he won’t go further than a hat, fake eyeglasses, or, very rarely, a suit. Other than pay phones, the tools of his trade all fit in his car; a business card printing press that can be transported in a briefcase is a delightful revelation. Ending a high-speed chase by driving up the ramp of a car hauler to hide? Classic Rockford.