Defend the indefensible: Momus' recent posts

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In America, even the gays and the hipsters are crap!

Is it possible to still like this guy after reading these elitist diatribes? I don't think I can.

― Mickey (modestmickey), Wednesday, 29 June 2005 21:41 (twenty-one years ago)

Who liked this guy before?

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Wednesday, 29 June 2005 21:43 (twenty-one years ago)

I suppose part of his "art" is that he's taken like and dislike off the table. His problem is that he didn't take "ignore" off as well.

― Rock Hardy (Rock Hardy), Wednesday, 29 June 2005 21:44 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah it's REALLY hard not to read his Live Journal.

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Wednesday, 29 June 2005 21:46 (twenty-one years ago)

the first link may well be an elitist diatribe but momus hasn't actually contributed to it at all!!

― mark s (mark s), Wednesday, 29 June 2005 21:50 (twenty-one years ago)

We did Momus-hate about three years ago.

― fake tan (dymaxia), Wednesday, 29 June 2005 21:52 (twenty-one years ago)

i haven't read them from end to end, but i think he's made one post total to all those threads. i don't know why so many folx get so bent out of shape by him, when he seems to hold the same "elitist" attitudes as they do. actually, that makes sense.

― oops (Oops), Wednesday, 29 June 2005 21:53 (twenty-one years ago)

I actually don't mind Momus at all. I think he's fun.

― Edgware General (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 29 June 2005 21:53 (twenty-one years ago)

He is fun.

The TV movie that's on in the background which is a bit noir just had an actor speak a line about some guy having to pray to St Andrew to stop him mashing out his other eye, after explaining to some other guy that they'd be looking for a man in a paisley eye patch. ::shivers::

― suzy (suzy), Wednesday, 29 June 2005 21:57 (twenty-one years ago)

i think the mometown rat adds to the gaiety of nations

oops you should end all your posts with that sentence!!

― mark s (mark s), Wednesday, 29 June 2005 21:57 (twenty-one years ago)

or better yet "that actually makes sense!"

― oops (Oops), Wednesday, 29 June 2005 21:59 (twenty-one years ago)

er I thought it'd be obvious, but the "diatribes" I was referring to are the articles on Momus' livejournal that are linked to in those ILX threads rather than the ILX threads themselves...

except that Chicago one. there's no article there. I'm not actually sure why I pasted that one.

― Mickey (modestmickey), Wednesday, 29 June 2005 22:00 (twenty-one years ago)

Does Momus ever tear off his shirt and dance to deep house?

― Edgware General (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 29 June 2005 22:00 (twenty-one years ago)

I doubt he did somehow.

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Wednesday, 29 June 2005 22:02 (twenty-one years ago)

Is it possible to still like this guy after reading these elitist diatribes?

yes it is because he is intelligent and can be funny as well thought provoking. i'd find it harder, however, to like someone who started another yet another Momus thread/dogpile when there are 3 active ones and would question his or her motives for doing so.

― jed_ (jed), Wednesday, 29 June 2005 22:10 (twenty-one years ago)

ZING!

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Wednesday, 29 June 2005 22:13 (twenty-one years ago)

I don't think Momus is particularly bright. I do think he can write a lot though.

― THE JAMES DEAN OF THE OLD TESTAMENT (ex machina), Wednesday, 29 June 2005 22:13 (twenty-one years ago)

JON WILLIAMS IS NOT A LIBAREL ARTS MAJOR!

― M. White (Miguelito), Wednesday, 29 June 2005 22:15 (twenty-one years ago)

i think he's ONE sexy bitch!!

― Homosexual II (Homosexual II), Wednesday, 29 June 2005 22:15 (twenty-one years ago)

I am very articulate in person.

― THE JAMES DEAN OF THE OLD TESTAMENT (ex machina), Wednesday, 29 June 2005 22:18 (twenty-one years ago)

oh no!!

― Mickey (modestmickey), Wednesday, 29 June 2005 22:18 (twenty-one years ago)

I agree with THE JAMES DEAN...his posts aren't often incisive, or funny, or thought-provoking, but that goes for most web journalism. I've still never heard his music (and didn't realize he was a musician until a month or so ago), so that might make him more interesting. As its stands, I would defend him by saying that he seems kind of likeable.

― paulhw (paulhw), Wednesday, 29 June 2005 22:20 (twenty-one years ago)

Be cool Jon. Just a bit of fun.

Elitism doesn't bother me much as I think, like much populism too, it's usually ridiculous enough to contain an invisible, or at least unintended, auto-critique. I do always prefer a pretentious thinker, however wrong-headed, to a pedestrian one. Whatever else one can say about Momus, he seems approachable enough and he's occasionally funny.

― M. White (Miguelito), Wednesday, 29 June 2005 22:24 (twenty-one years ago)

Momus is really nice! And he's responsible for the greatest knock knock joke ever posted to ILX.

― Daniel_Rf (Daniel_Rf), Wednesday, 29 June 2005 22:24 (twenty-one years ago)

I don't have an opinion either way, I'm just posting in here to gain status.

― New teef! Dat's weird (Autumn Almanac), Wednesday, 29 June 2005 22:25 (twenty-one years ago)

My first exposure to Momus was the naked-in-Berlin photo. Mildly scarring, actually.

― milozauckerman (miloaukerman), Wednesday, 29 June 2005 23:26 (twenty-one years ago)

I have momus records, I bought them years and years ago. I like "Closer to You". Its creepy.

― Trayce (trayce), Thursday, 30 June 2005 00:26 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm listening to Comus. Comus are better than Momus. They're creepy.

― snotty moore, Thursday, 30 June 2005 01:06 (twenty-one years ago)

one mans elitist diatribe is the other mans feuilleton

― fe zaffe (fezaffe), Thursday, 30 June 2005 01:11 (twenty-one years ago)

(anag, 10)

― mark s (mark s), Thursday, 30 June 2005 01:12 (twenty-one years ago)

What was that knock knock joke again? I need material for my art show.

― Momus (Momus), Thursday, 30 June 2005 02:13 (twenty-one years ago)

HIT THAT ASS FROM THE BACK
HIT THAT ASS FROM THE BACK
HIT THAT ASS FROM THE BACK
GIRL HOW YOU MAKE YA PUSSY JUMP LIKE THAT

HIT THAT, HIT THAT
HIT HIT HIT THAT
HIT THAT, HIT THAT
HIT HIT HIT THAT
HIT THAT ASS
HIT THAT ASS
HIT THAT ASS FROM THE BACK

― Ô¿Ô (eman), Thursday, 30 June 2005 02:18 (twenty-one years ago)

Momus is perfect and you shouldn't seek to change him.

― Orbit (Orbit), Thursday, 30 June 2005 02:26 (twenty-one years ago)

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Knock knock.
Who's there?

The school of art.

The school of art who?

The school of art knocks! Knock knock!

Who's there?

Etc.

― moley (moley), Thursday, 30 June 2005 02:49 (twenty-one years ago)

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― Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Thursday, 30 June 2005 03:08 (twenty-one years ago)

Materials for OH NEVER MIND.

― Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Thursday, 30 June 2005 03:09 (twenty-one years ago)

wait where is this "fundamentalist christian rockabilly" that momus insists other music is peddling to him? i want to hear that!

― Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Thursday, 30 June 2005 03:22 (twenty-one years ago)

though i suspect that in reality, it is neither fundamentalist christian nor rockabilly. but i'd be pleasantly surprised if it were!

― Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Thursday, 30 June 2005 03:53 (twenty-one years ago)

daddino what will you be making out of that stuff? some of kind fan/puppet hybrid?

― Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Thursday, 30 June 2005 04:01 (twenty-one years ago)

Do you want a cute answer that never gets to be funny, or a straightforward answer that's just kinda self-effacing in a boring way? (Cue the "/self-loathing" .html tags.)

― Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Thursday, 30 June 2005 04:04 (twenty-one years ago)

i want an answer that incorporates brian eno, adorno, and a reference to spirit photography.

― Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Thursday, 30 June 2005 04:07 (twenty-one years ago)

where is this "fundamentalist christian rockabilly" that momus insists other music is peddling to him? i want to hear that!

Fern Jones, The Glory Road.

http://realaudio01.datapipe.net:8080/ramgen/othermusic/idobelie.rm

http://realaudio01.datapipe.net:8080/ramgen/othermusic/iwasther.rm

― Momus (Momus), Thursday, 30 June 2005 05:17 (twenty-one years ago)

i think religious music is always fascinating to atheists. be it louvin brothers, gospel, or russian orthodox music. there are, of course, parallels with disco of the late 70s, and rave of the early 90s, themes of abandonment and redemption

the blood and fire of much religious music is also fascinating to atheists, one only has to look at the number of 'righteous' jazz or reggae records people own.

a window into other worlds is always fascinating, especially, when the window can be closed

people not like us, are the most interesting people of all. we dont have to be them

― charltonlido (gareth), Thursday, 30 June 2005 05:23 (twenty-one years ago)

fern jones?! that's not really "fundamentalist christian rockabilly," that's just sort of pepped up country gospel! is that what's shocked you, that hipsters could enjoy such things? i don't want to stoop to actually making an argument as to why it's "ok" to listen to religious-minded music. that's the sort of argument i would avoid having with a 14-year-old who's just discovered noam chomsky, or somebody, and wears black nail polish.

i think you're putting us on, nick currie. a man like you, with roughly 40 years (i'd guess) and numerous places you've called home, must be more wordly and less obtuse than you've been making out.

― Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Thursday, 30 June 2005 05:33 (twenty-one years ago)

sorry to make this "ad hominem" but i don't feel that rehearsing an argument in this case (or in many cases with you) would serve much purpose, as i think you're probably well familiar with the stock arguments and are being purposely, "provocatively" obtuse.

― Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Thursday, 30 June 2005 05:38 (twenty-one years ago)

i think the majority of those who are interested in stuff like this, are non-religious people.

this is, of course, engagement (at a distance) with The Other

― charltonlido (gareth), Thursday, 30 June 2005 06:05 (twenty-one years ago)

i think it's as simple as: the sort of hipster urbanite that has access to reissues of obscure lps from the 1950s isn't likely to be particularly religious. though there are exceptions. and there are plenty of mail-order places that sell lots of lps of country gospel whose proprietors are plenty religious.

― Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Thursday, 30 June 2005 06:08 (twenty-one years ago)

and i don't think it's primarily about engagement with the other, not for me anyway. maybe for some other music customers who bought "satan is real" for the kitschy cover and ventured no further. i guess i'm the antimomus in that way: he's shocked, or dismayed, or whatever, that new yorkers would be selling such a record to each other, but i'm more chagrined that such music often seems to reach other music shelves in its most kitschy or cartoonish form. compilations of the blue sky boys, etc., are less likely to be written up (but i like other music, so i wouldn't put it past them, happily).

but i feel very strongly about much "religious music," which itself is a kind of reification that makes me uncomfortable. it's music, and it's about different things.

― Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Thursday, 30 June 2005 06:11 (twenty-one years ago)

in its most kitschy or cartoonish form.

i should instead say, packaged in a most kitschy or cartoonish form. the music, while it can have elements that come across as kitsch, has a lot more to it. i wouldn't expect momus to want to know what to make of it, though.

― Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Thursday, 30 June 2005 06:13 (twenty-one years ago)

I own and like listening to several of Momus' records, found this place - which Im usually enjoy - via Momus' website, and enjoy reading what he has to say, even when I don't agree w/him, or when he's being provocative for the sake of it. I miss the Momus/D4rni3ll3 arguments, they were good reading. Momus is great! Fuck the haters!!

― Pashmina (Pashmina), Thursday, 30 June 2005 07:42 (twenty-one years ago)

Nick deserves mad props. That is all.

― suzy (suzy), Thursday, 30 June 2005 07:55 (twenty-one years ago)

and i don't think it's primarily about engagement with the other, not for me anyway. maybe for some other music customers who bought "satan is real" for the kitschy cover and ventured no further

yes, but, The Other isnt just about perceived kitschyness of the satan is real sleeve. to investigate further, to buy many other louvin brothers records, to become interested in other country/gospel records, to delve deep....it is still The Other! level of engagement doesn't prevent it being The Other,

― charltonlido (gareth), Thursday, 30 June 2005 07:59 (twenty-one years ago)

(the charlton lido / amateurist exchange on this thread is fascinating. is it about authenticity of reception / perception? or about authority?)

― youn, Thursday, 30 June 2005 08:05 (twenty-one years ago)

Was looking for the thread about poor Momus' recent trials in scary London, and found this - the indefensible isn't 'recent' for him, really, is it?

― Flyboy (Flyboy), Thursday, 30 June 2005 08:23 (twenty-one years ago)

Momus clearly has a real flair for writing; you don't have to agree with what he says to see that. His writing style is a good deal more accomplished than that of many of the "writers" here on ILX who churn out their baby cd reviews for websites and music mags. His ideas are rarely banal. I just wish he'd tackle something a bit more substantial, more thought-out and truly creative, rather than off-the-cuff blog commentary.

Actually, the real problem I have with him is not his "controversial" writing, it's his music, which I find pretty unlistenable. He has an annoying voice, his lyrics are so clunky, literal and laden with sixth-form cleverness (so unlike his prose writing), the music is simply uninteresting and underdeveloped. He's hanging on to the music side of things because obviously that's so important to his identity and image, but if he wanted to, he could do something far more interesting with his writing.

― Natasha Lejeune, Thursday, 30 June 2005 08:56 (twenty-one years ago)

You're right, but if he took his writing more seriously he'd then be compared to people who can actually write, rather than the easily impressed souls on ILX who seem to think he's some kind of celebrity because he's made thousands of unbought records and his brother was in Del Amitri. Why shouldn't he take the easiest route?

― snotty moore, Thursday, 30 June 2005 14:14 (twenty-one years ago)

i think there about 40 writers on ilx better than nick - i wish he wd approach writing the way he does music

(i tease him loads but i actually LIKE his music)

― mark s (mark s), Thursday, 30 June 2005 14:27 (twenty-one years ago)

I thought his cousin was in Del Amitri; I didn't think anyone on ILX had or has any illusions that he's "famous"; I think if he's "famous" in the context of the board it's because he used to post here as much and as ostentatiously as any of the heaviest users! People do seem to get unnecessarily annoyed with him, which is too bad, because our slight annoyance with a Momus essay tends to lead to pretty good discussion about where exactly we disagree; as a polite intellectual provocateur he does very very well. When he was actually here to engage in the discussion, his argument style was bound to create a lot of frustration and head-butting -- but so long as he's not, I can't see why we shouldn't take his ideas as seriously as possible and discuss them from there.

― nabiscothingy, Thursday, 30 June 2005 14:35 (twenty-one years ago)

yeah his brother is a "famous" academic derrida scholar!

momus = the god of ridicule, latinised from momos, meaning "reproach personified"

― mark s (mark s), Thursday, 30 June 2005 14:39 (twenty-one years ago)

If Momus were my friend, I bet I'd think he "is just a little depressed and introverted" and "needs to loosen up a little."

His only real problems are that he puts out records and has a blog.

― jhoshea (scoopsnoodle), Thursday, 30 June 2005 14:48 (twenty-one years ago)

My problem isn't with his writing style, characteristics of his personality (he is often funny, etc), or his music.

My problem is the utterly pretensious tone that these particular articles all have. Especially the visiting NYC one. His attitude in the Other Music article is really offputting to me too. I can just imagine some hipster scoffing, "Ugh, and look at THIS record! It's so... it's so... CONSERVATIVE! Ugh! WHAT, you LIKE THIS? I bet you voted for Bush too!"

He's no doubt a talented writer, far better than I'll ever be, but his attitude is just really unattractive.

― Mickey (modestmickey), Thursday, 30 June 2005 16:06 (twenty-one years ago)

Pretensious, toi?

Haha just about all of Nick's immediate family are writers or academics or both. He wanted to do something 'different' because his entire family were after him to write books. It might be hard to stomach if you dislike his writing here or on blog but he has actually turned down, on several occasions, begging editors at publishing houses who are after some sort of novel (I've seen it happen). He sells enough records and other people ask to collaborate with him all the time. I don't like the sour-grapes comments that have emanated from posters who are, or seem to be, here on a flying visit.

I don't preoccupy myself with what's in his blog; a problematic aspect of this diary form is that the reader forgets it's a diary and therefore meant to be mutable in its impressions. In maths terms, showing all works. People claim not to care what he thinks but they're much grumpier when he doesn't like where they live than when he does like it.

― suzy (suzy), Thursday, 30 June 2005 16:09 (twenty-one years ago)

So, in summary: Y'all Just Some Jelous Motha Fuckaz.

― Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Thursday, 30 June 2005 16:59 (twenty-one years ago)

I always enjoy Momus' posts. He makes far more sense than his detractors.

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Thursday, 30 June 2005 17:11 (twenty-one years ago)

If the choice outlined on this thread is between spluttering scorn and high-handed defensiveness, I shall opt out.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 30 June 2005 17:14 (twenty-one years ago)

Actually, I apologize for being more asshole-seeming on this thread than I'd like. (The kiddies art supplies thing came out sorta meaner than I intendend -- if it even makes any sense at all.)

― Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Thursday, 30 June 2005 17:47 (twenty-one years ago)

If it makes you feel any better, I'm too stupid to figure out what you meant so no feelings are hurt!

― Mickey (modestmickey), Thursday, 30 June 2005 18:08 (twenty-one years ago)

I am pro Nick's posts and anti Nick's boring music.

― polyphonic (polyphonic), Thursday, 30 June 2005 18:15 (twenty-one years ago)

Momus is kind of like Geir -- I'm amazed at how upset people get at his posts when they should know better.

― Leon C. (Ex Leon), Thursday, 30 June 2005 18:17 (twenty-one years ago)

Especially when we're talking about things that he didn't post on ILX to start with.

― Tech Support Droid (ForestPines), Thursday, 30 June 2005 18:21 (twenty-one years ago)

Pretensious, toi?
Haha just about all of Nick's immediate family are writers or academics or both.

i don't know what this is meant to imply - that somehow his output is justified on the basis that he comes from an academic/intellectual family? wtf!?

― jed_ (jed), Thursday, 30 June 2005 18:22 (twenty-one years ago)

Ridiculing people who "write" for websites, how original.

A friend of mine went to his concert in Tokyo. Only a handful of people were there. :-(

― nathalie's post modern sleaze fest (stevie nixed), Thursday, 30 June 2005 18:31 (twenty-one years ago)

Am I the only one who finds this praise for style over content a little odd? Who cares what he says, look at the beauty of his prose! How elegant! How sophisticated! How much more textual than the prose of Americans, even the gay ones!

― Mickey (modestmickey), Thursday, 30 June 2005 18:40 (twenty-one years ago)

i'd find it odd if anyone was actually saying that in this thread.

― jed_ (jed), Thursday, 30 June 2005 18:43 (twenty-one years ago)

Momus clearly has a real flair for writing;

You're an enabler. I bet you send love letters to serial killers in prison, too.

― Stoner Guy, Thursday, 30 June 2005 18:48 (twenty-one years ago)

i like the clarity of his writing. it's never hard to understand what momus is talking about. he sometimes communicates complex ideas in unusually limpid writing. unfortunately too often his ideas are themselves regrettably simple, or simpleminded, or just flaky.

― Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Thursday, 30 June 2005 18:51 (twenty-one years ago)

You didn't just contradicted yourself, Amateur(ist), but you almost did if I read fast enough. Sometimes his ideas are complex, but too often they are simple, simpleminded or flaky. So, if anything, this makes him an editor, not a writer.

― Stoner Guy, Thursday, 30 June 2005 18:55 (twenty-one years ago)

If Momus was just Joe ILXor, would his prose merit this much inspection?

― polyphonic (polyphonic), Thursday, 30 June 2005 18:58 (twenty-one years ago)

how did i contradict myself? i wrote:

(a) momus has a clear, limpid writing style
(b) sometimes he puts that writing style in the service of interesting, occasionally complex ideas
(c) more often (and increasingly) he puts it in the service of overly simplified, extremely flaky ideas

what i meant to imply, and what i will make explicit now, is that this is especially regrettable because so much music/cultural criticism is characterized by excessively pained syntax straining to be complex in the absence of actual argument. momus almost always has an argument. for better and for worse.

― Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Thursday, 30 June 2005 19:08 (twenty-one years ago)

how did i contradict myself?

You didn't. I didn't say you did.

― Stoner Guy, Thursday, 30 June 2005 19:10 (twenty-one years ago)

you're right, but i *almost* did. clever huh?

So, if anything, this makes him an editor, not a writer.

how so?

― Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Thursday, 30 June 2005 19:11 (twenty-one years ago)

So, if anything, this makes him an editor, not a writer.

how so?

Editors are good at expressing ideas, but if they were good with actual ideas, they would be writers and would have their own editors.

― Stoner Guy, Thursday, 30 June 2005 19:15 (twenty-one years ago)

suzy to thread?

― Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Thursday, 30 June 2005 19:18 (twenty-one years ago)

I know editors are often writers, if that's what Suzy is all about.

― Stoner Guy, Thursday, 30 June 2005 19:19 (twenty-one years ago)

I know editors are often writers, if that's what Suzy is all about.

How about replacing "often" with "usually".

― polyphonic (polyphonic), Thursday, 30 June 2005 19:46 (twenty-one years ago)

How about "no shit, but often failed writers who suck."

― Stoner Guy, Thursday, 30 June 2005 19:48 (twenty-one years ago)

http://home.cwru.edu/~sjr16/media/stars_blackhole_anatomy.jpg

― Ô¿Ô (eman), Thursday, 30 June 2005 21:35 (twenty-one years ago)

it's pretty good that he gets pretty much unconditional defence from his ex-lover

― p, Thursday, 30 June 2005 22:46 (twenty-one years ago)

how does momus's being an egotistical wanker with his head lodged in his colon distinguish him from most of ilx?

― krankenschwester, Thursday, 30 June 2005 23:22 (twenty-one years ago)

the answer is that he has a moderate amount of success to base his egotism on

― krankenschwester, Thursday, 30 June 2005 23:35 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm actually at once both offended and amused by much of what Momus goes on about. Offended because he seems to come from an approach that dictates that his way of living is the only proper and right way of living and that other people living the way they live are wrong for pursuing their own chosen life patterns. This is especially indicative in the last example; he seems to only approve of people who spend copious amounts of time in art galleries and quaint little cafes discussing neatly packaged little theories. He doesn't seem to realize that quite a lot of individuals who are intelligent and interesting either couldn't see themselves doing that sort of thing all the time or can't afford to live that kind of life. I myself fall under the latter category, so I'm sorta speaking from a biased, self-centric position here. Anyway. So he does infuriate me -- but here's the rub: he also amuses me. Most of it is because his world viewpoints seem so naive, so overidealistic, for someone as well traveled and full of life experience as he is. He does view the world's problems as solvable via these little packages of policy and personal decisions that he thinks will help contribute to the creation of some little world utopia he's created in his mind, and if there's one thing that my disillusionment with my prior conservative ideals has taught me, it's that nothing is solvable via these pretty little solutions save for the tiny little irritations that occur in the average person's life. You can certainly try to make strides on things or work with the system to help achieve your own personal goals concerning a particular issue, but you'll never solve anything worth remarking about with a group of individuals with a neat solution that sounds good on paper.

― The Kind and Benevolent Oracle of Dee (Dee the Lurker), Friday, 1 July 2005 01:25 (twenty years ago)

Well, some of us listen to Three Six Mafia records, as well!

A friend of mine went to his concert in Tokyo. Only a handful of people were there. :-(

A good twenty or so people showed up to see him at the concert at the local cinema that I went to here in Oporto, maybe a bit more even! Way more ppl than went to the screening of "North By Northwest" that I attended yesterday at the same place, anyway.

― Daniel_Rf (Daniel_Rf), Friday, 1 July 2005 11:25 (twenty years ago)

If Momus was a woman he would be first out of the Big Brother house.

― Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Friday, 1 July 2005 11:26 (twenty years ago)

A good twenty or so people showed up to see him at the concert

Not exactly a full house at Madison Square Gardens though, is it?

― Fred Zed, Friday, 1 July 2005 11:40 (twenty years ago)

What happened to the Other Music thread? Oh maybe I know.

― k/l (Ken L), Friday, 1 July 2005 11:49 (twenty years ago)

4:36 PM, 30 Jun 05 Momus vs Other Music deleted by MELVINS + BREWS = YR NEIGHBOR (request)

(shrugs)

― Pashmina (Pashmina), Friday, 1 July 2005 13:33 (twenty years ago)

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