"Senator Frist cannot have it both ways. He cannot be pro-life and pro-embryonic stem cell funding,"

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Frist flip-flops on stem cells in advance of 2008 run.

This is all against the Preznit's first-ever veto threat.

...A likely presidential candidate in 2008, Frist has been courting religious conservatives who helped make Bush a twice-elected president and generally consider embryonic stem cell research a moral equivalent to abortion. But the announcement, coming just a month after Frist said he did not support expanded financing "at this juncture," could help him with centrist voters....

― kingfish (Kingfish), Friday, 29 July 2005 14:09 (twenty years ago)

as i saw someone asking elsewhere, "which member of his family do you suppose has an illness likely to be cured by stem cell research?"

― el sabor de gene (yournullfame), Friday, 29 July 2005 14:52 (twenty years ago)

We all know what santorum is. What's 'fristing', do you suppose?

― M. White (Miguelito), Friday, 29 July 2005 14:54 (twenty years ago)

"Senator Frist is not allowed to keep the hot side hot and the cool side cool; this is not a McDLT."

― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 29 July 2005 15:02 (twenty years ago)

(Okay side-note remember how the environmentally-concerned made McD's stop serving that thing, because of the sheer waste of styrofoam packaging? Okay so consider the sheer amount of paper in a current McD's meal and then oh my god think back on the massive bonanzas of useless non-degradable packaging they were slinging out back in the day! A Big Mac in 1982 had as much packaging as a flat-screen TV in 2005!)

― nabisco (nabisco), Friday, 29 July 2005 15:05 (twenty years ago)

"likely to be cured"

― don weiner (don weiner), Friday, 29 July 2005 15:30 (twenty years ago)

xpost yes

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Friday, 29 July 2005 16:01 (twenty years ago)

it's more important that we make ourselves feel good by rejecting the relative social importance of the scientific/medical worlds and their occupants than allowing them the chance to make our lives better

― gabbneb (gabbneb), Friday, 29 July 2005 16:08 (twenty years ago)

i'm still surprised at the waste generated by fast food. why the fuck does my burger need to be wrapped up in foil and put in a bag and everything just for me to take it 10 feet away to eat at a table. they're getting better though.

― AaronK (AaronK), Friday, 29 July 2005 16:11 (twenty years ago)

I remember when McD's went all enviro friendly, dropping the styrofoam.... then going to Europe and seeing that they just shipped all the styro containers over there.

― Sparkle Motion's Rising Force, Friday, 29 July 2005 17:45 (twenty years ago)

On the rare occasions that I go to Starbucks (where I only ever get espresso or double espresso), I have noticed that regardless of what I say, they insist on putting a plastic lid on the cup. I imagine this is somehow liability related but it irks me so much that I often remove it and toss it into the garbage all while maintaining eye contact of the most withering sort.

― M. White (Miguelito), Friday, 29 July 2005 17:49 (twenty years ago)

Frist's flip-flop-flip

If this is Frist's Sister Souljah moment, he picked the safest and most politically secure route possible.

Post Script: Just as an aside, if Bush's approval ratings weren't in the low-40s, do you suppose Frist would be willing to do this?

― kingfish (Kingfish), Friday, 29 July 2005 18:14 (twenty years ago)

Frist can have it both ways and good for him.

― gabbneb (gabbneb), Friday, 29 July 2005 18:18 (twenty years ago)

but still, yeah, took him forever to come around and actually support something decent, but hell, good on him that he did.

if disliked politicians have to promote actual good policies to stay in power(creation of the EPA, anyone?), we'll take what we can get.

― kingfish (Kingfish), Friday, 29 July 2005 18:29 (twenty years ago)

promoting != implementing

― donut ferry (donut), Friday, 29 July 2005 18:33 (twenty years ago)

that too

― kingfish (Kingfish), Friday, 29 July 2005 18:42 (twenty years ago)

On the rare occasions that I go to Starbucks (where I only ever get espresso or double espresso)

I hate to break it to you, but the espresso at Starbucks is still shitty coffee, and ordering anything at Starbucks still supports them as a company.

Disclaimer all you want, you're still a Tool of the Fucken Starbucks Man, and you know it.

― martin m. (mushrush), Saturday, 30 July 2005 06:17 (twenty years ago)

The man has really awesome long green hair though, and funds local AIDS prevention centers here.

So, you can feel better that at least while you're a Tool Of The Fucken Starbucks Green Long Haired Girly Man, you're also helping less teens get AIDS in Seattle.

― donut ferry (donut), Saturday, 30 July 2005 07:12 (twenty years ago)

That's ok, I'm a Tool Of The Fucken Peet's myself (as the only one in the city is in my 'hood)

― donut ferry (donut), Saturday, 30 July 2005 07:13 (twenty years ago)

actually,

...First, the phrase "supports federal funding for embryonic stem cell research" is a little too simplistic. The issue here is the limitations on the stem cell lines. Right now scientists can only use federal funds for research on 78 lines of embryonic stem cells, of which under 30 have proven to be usable. Frist now supports expanding the number of lines available for study with federal funds.

Then there's the issue of Frist's history on this. As the Washington Post explains, Frist's views on stem cell research have wavered. Back in the summer of 2001, he called for federal funding of embryonic stem cell research, agreeing that there should me some limits, but adding, "This does not mean limiting it to research using stem cells that have already been derived to date." When President Bush announced his position --limited stem cell research onstem cells that had "already been derived to date" -- Frist capitulated and threw his support behind the president's plan...

― kingfish (Kingfish), Monday, 1 August 2005 15:59 (twenty years ago)

"Fucken" is an awesome word. It feels very German.

― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 1 August 2005 16:04 (twenty years ago)

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