100 genre-exercise pieces (any medium) where the genre-exercise is the least interesting element

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100) chinatown

― some stockholm cindy talking (Jody Beth Rosen), Friday, 12 August 2005 02:03 (twenty years ago)

ohh good thread idea!!

― s1ocki (slutsky), Friday, 12 August 2005 02:08 (twenty years ago)

actually i really think the genre stuff in chinatown is neat. i wrote a paper about it once.

― s1ocki (slutsky), Friday, 12 August 2005 02:08 (twenty years ago)

i would have to say miller's crossing, which i love to death. cuz it's really all about hats when you get right down to it. the noirish/period-piece elements of it can't hold a candle to the hats. unless of course it was meant to be an exercise of the haberdashery-genre.

― scott seward (scott seward), Friday, 12 August 2005 02:09 (twenty years ago)

fuck i wish i could think of anything though!! i keep thinking that there's a good video game one, like paper mario or something, but my thoughts are very unclear and i've never even played paper mario.

― s1ocki (slutsky), Friday, 12 August 2005 02:10 (twenty years ago)

s1ocki do you still have a copy of that chinatown paper?

― some stockholm cindy talking (Jody Beth Rosen), Friday, 12 August 2005 02:14 (twenty years ago)

99. The Chinatown Paper

haha actually i'm pretty sure it's lost to the mists of my old old computer, including all of my good university stuff! probably for the best though!!

― s1ocki (slutsky), Friday, 12 August 2005 02:19 (twenty years ago)

98. doogie howser, m.d.

― strng hlkngtn, Friday, 12 August 2005 02:29 (twenty years ago)

97. the strokes - is this it?

― strng hlkngtn, Friday, 12 August 2005 02:31 (twenty years ago)

"97. the strokes - is this it?"

see, if i remember correctly, they didn't put a question mark after the album title on the cover of that record. that was always the most interesting element to me. i hate when people do that.

― scott seward (scott seward), Friday, 12 August 2005 02:34 (twenty years ago)

they should've just called it "this it?"

― s1ocki (slutsky), Friday, 12 August 2005 03:13 (twenty years ago)

oh!

96. buffy the vampire slayer

― s1ocki (slutsky), Friday, 12 August 2005 03:14 (twenty years ago)

in such a major way. also i mean the show.

― s1ocki (slutsky), Friday, 12 August 2005 03:14 (twenty years ago)

95. The Wire -- it has cop-show conventions (detective work, busts, interrogations, principled cops standing up to craven superiors, etc.), but those things don't provide much of its drama or narrative drive, they're just the clothes it wears.

― gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Friday, 12 August 2005 05:37 (twenty years ago)

94. mccabe & mrs. miller.

― Remy (x Jeremy), Friday, 12 August 2005 05:40 (twenty years ago)

93. The Sopranos

Gangsta genre, but really about relationships, angst, etc. (come to think of it, those themes are kind of common in the genre)

― Super Cub (Debito), Friday, 12 August 2005 05:49 (twenty years ago)

A couple of possible genres to consider:

1. Sports movies
2. Mysteries
3. Horror movies

― Super Cub (Debito), Friday, 12 August 2005 05:51 (twenty years ago)

doesn't this apply to all sports movies? Like Rocky? Who the hell cares that he loses!

― Remy (x Jeremy), Friday, 12 August 2005 06:22 (twenty years ago)

92. Watchmen

― idle hands got me nowhere (idle hands), Friday, 12 August 2005 06:27 (twenty years ago)

91. white jazz - james ellroy. whre the genre elements become a skeleton to keep you involved in something that is an interior monologue on speed.

― mullygrubbr (bulbs), Friday, 12 August 2005 06:33 (twenty years ago)

*shit* interior monolgue on speed use other cliches pls gaz

― mullygrubbr (bulbs), Friday, 12 August 2005 06:34 (twenty years ago)

90. Babe
89. Toy Soldiers

― Super Cub (Debito), Friday, 12 August 2005 07:07 (twenty years ago)

88. Cutting It, the BBC TV series

― , Friday, 12 August 2005 07:29 (twenty years ago)

this question doesn't make any sense. how are we distinguishing the 'interesting stuff' in these films from the genre stuff? in 'chinatown', for example.

― N_RQ, Friday, 12 August 2005 07:30 (twenty years ago)

this question doesn't make any sense. how are we distinguishing the 'interesting stuff' in these films from the genre stuff? in 'chinatown', for example.,

"interesting" maybe if you're not looking for another rote genre-piece (of which there are PLENTY) to study for the formal elements. also i'm implying that the majority of genre-exercises/period pieces care more about the formalism than, oh, i dunno, a worthwhile story, character development, and so on. i can appreciate that some directors deliberately WANT to re-create the tropes of a mediocre noir film (or whatever), but most new directors just end up making mediocre noir films regardless.

Gangsta genre, but really about relationships, angst, etc. (come to think of it, those themes are kind of common in the genre) (re the sopranos)

i dunno if i'd count this because the personal drama is so much THE POINT with this show, and they market that and hit you over the head with it. i think i would enoy it more if it was played as a straight gangster show with surprise elements of humanity.

― some stockholm cindy talking (Jody Beth Rosen), Friday, 12 August 2005 11:26 (twenty years ago)

87. Rudimentary Peni, Farce

― Douglas (Douglas), Friday, 12 August 2005 12:34 (twenty years ago)

wait, are we talking about just art made in genre, or art that specifically is sending up or examining that genre in a self-conscious way? which is what i thought you meant. like saying "babe is a children's movie but it's so much more than that!" to me doesn't fit this description.

― s1ocki (slutsky), Friday, 12 August 2005 12:57 (twenty years ago)

but the human relationships in 'the sopranos' all take place in genre scenarios. eg, the pine barrens ep, it's a 'hit gone wrong' story. textbook, in a way.

― N_RQ, Friday, 12 August 2005 12:59 (twenty years ago)

art made in genre, where the film has some (any) historical distance from the genre's heyday. not send-ups, no. (xpost)

yeah, but the human-interest stuff is still THE WHOLE POINT of the show, and i just find that a wee bit too precious.

― some stockholm cindy talking (Jody Beth Rosen), Friday, 12 August 2005 13:01 (twenty years ago)

i fundamentally disagree with the premise of the thread.

― N_RQ, Friday, 12 August 2005 13:03 (twenty years ago)

that's nice

― some stockholm cindy talking (Jody Beth Rosen), Friday, 12 August 2005 13:29 (twenty years ago)

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