I Hear The Language Of Flowers

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So as I'm coming down the stairs this morning, the doorbell rings. The housemate's wife gets it, then hands me a large green box. "It's for you." It's labelled FRAGILE: LIVE PLANTS and there's no return address.

I am absolutely flummoxed. Who in the world could be sending me live plants? I open it, all very mysterious, and it contains a FLAMING KATY plant - a lovely tropical looking thing with pretty, dark green waxy leaves and lovely, bright red flowers. (Captain Anderson would be proud indeed.)

Completely mystified! Somewhat slightly worried that I might have a Secret Admirer, but I can't find a card. (It's not necessarily scary that I might have a Secret Admirer, but it is *scary* that such a secret admirer might know my home address.) I've never been sent flowers. Never, ever, ever - even when I had a boyfriend - which is weird, considering how much I love plants.

(I finally found the card stuck in with the care instructions, and was pleased to discover it was from a friend who wanted to cheer me up. And cheer me up it did indeed!)

Anyway, let's talk about giving the gift of flowers. Tell me about receiving unexpected flowers! Or giving random flowers. Or just post pictures of particularly lovely flowers.

Alce Tea-Skirt (kate), Friday, 12 August 2005 07:13 (twenty years ago)

Awwwww!
These are my favourite
http://www.infoagro.com/flores/flores/images/gerbera.jpg

Panther Pink (Pinkpanther), Friday, 12 August 2005 07:23 (twenty years ago)

gerBLURa flowers!!!

Flaming Katy:

http://www.taoherbfarm.com/herbs/images/flaming_katy.JPG

It looks so nice sitting on my windowsill!

Alce Tea-Skirt (kate), Friday, 12 August 2005 07:24 (twenty years ago)

anything like this for me...
http://stevegarufi.com/cactus1.jpg

not-goodwin (not-goodwin), Friday, 12 August 2005 07:27 (twenty years ago)

Those are very phallic!

Alce Tea-Skirt (kate), Friday, 12 August 2005 07:31 (twenty years ago)

This is the flower my grandfather discovered:

http://plantnet.rbgsyd.gov.au/PlantNet/cycad/timages/Encephalartos_manikensis_2.jpg

(It looks a bit like a mentalist pineapple. Funny, I was just talking about pineapples on my blog.)

Alce Tea-Skirt (kate), Friday, 12 August 2005 07:32 (twenty years ago)

K-you nearly got this, but I don't think you should give lilies!
http://ww1.1800flowers.com/800f_assets/images/flowers/images/shop/catalog/2092z.jpg

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wow! that's pretty amazing!

Panther Pink (Pinkpanther), Friday, 12 August 2005 07:34 (twenty years ago)

Why shouldn't you give lillies? Is it bad luck or something? (I should look it up in my Language Of Flowers book what they mean, but it's at home.)

I must say, though, I am extremely pleased with the Flaming Katy, so you did very well indeed!

Alce Tea-Skirt (kate), Friday, 12 August 2005 07:37 (twenty years ago)

So long as the Lily isn't orange, it should be OK. My goodness, it makes me feel bad about all those Tiger Lillies I picked for people as a child:

Lily (general) - Keeps unwanted visitors away
Lily (calia) - Beauty
Lily (day) - Coquetry
Lily (eucharis) - Maiden charms
Lily (orange) - Hatred
Lily (tiger) - Wealth; pride
Lily (white) - Virginity; purity; majesty; it's heavenly to be with you
Lily (yellow) - I'm walking on air; false and gay
Lily of the valley - sweetness; return to happiness; humility

Alce Tea-Skirt (kate), Friday, 12 August 2005 07:41 (twenty years ago)

A yellow lily sounds slightly dodgy too to my mind.

I should know what a coquet is (apart from a valley in Northumberland), but I can't remember.

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Friday, 12 August 2005 07:42 (twenty years ago)

I think coquettry is flirtation, false modesty, that being-too-forward-in-batting-your-eyelashes-from-behind-your-fan type thing.

Alce Tea-Skirt (kate), Friday, 12 August 2005 07:44 (twenty years ago)

AHA! I remember where Language of Flowers sounds familiar... they are the posh/not posh Belfast band that played with a band that used to have Malcom Eden in but now they DON'T at the Brixton Windmill - I meant to see them, but stayed in and watched SOAPS instead. I wonder if I missed what could have been...

...possibly life-changing?

Anyway - no-one has ever sent, or given me flowers.

Lucretia My Reflection (Lucretia My Reflection), Friday, 12 August 2005 07:47 (twenty years ago)

That sounds very *you* for some reason ;-)

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Forest Pines (ForestPines), Friday, 12 August 2005 07:47 (twenty years ago)

(Starry: no, me neither)

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Friday, 12 August 2005 07:48 (twenty years ago)

ihttp://www.instoneinc.com/gallery/Coquette-Smp%20O%20(T).jpg

what's me? Mentalist pineapples or knowing flirts?

I have never knowingly coquetted! If I flirt, I mean it!

Alce Tea-Skirt (kate), Friday, 12 August 2005 07:52 (twenty years ago)

Dammit, stupid image.

Alce Tea-Skirt (kate), Friday, 12 August 2005 07:53 (twenty years ago)

Coquette

Alce Tea-Skirt (kate), Friday, 12 August 2005 07:53 (twenty years ago)

http://www.instoneinc.com/gallery/Coquette-Smp%20O%20%28T%29.jpg

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Friday, 12 August 2005 07:53 (twenty years ago)

She looks a bit consumptive to me.
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Penelope_111 (Penelope_111), Friday, 12 August 2005 07:54 (twenty years ago)

(the ILX html parser doesn't like brackets in URLs, so you have to replace them with %28 and %29)

I think being coquettish is very deliberate flirting, though, just of a semi-ironic type.

(although if you say you don't I'll believe you!)

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Friday, 12 August 2005 07:55 (twenty years ago)

Consumptive was the style back then.

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I think being coquettish is very deliberate flirting, though, just of a semi-ironic type.

Honestly, I don't think I do. Unless people mistake my very deliberate sex talk for flirting. If I flirt with people, it generally means I'm attracted to them. I don't flirt for fun, I just don't see the point.

Alce Tea-Skirt (kate), Friday, 12 August 2005 07:56 (twenty years ago)

I got a giant forty-quid bouquet last week as a thank you for doing my job. I know it was a forty-quid bouquet because I had to order it myself, on my credit card, and expense it later! Blimming cheek. Still, I got to choose the one I wanted, with yellow roses, lilies and gerberas. The lilies are making my living room smell pretty tropical.

Mädchen (Madchen), Friday, 12 August 2005 08:00 (twenty years ago)

It's not quite the same when you have to order them for yourself.

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Friday, 12 August 2005 08:01 (twenty years ago)

Wait, so how was it a thank you, if you had to buy it yourself? I don't think I understand.

Alce Tea-Skirt (kate), Friday, 12 August 2005 08:01 (twenty years ago)

> I remember where Language of Flowers sounds familiar... they are the posh/not posh Belfast band that played with a band that used to have Malcom Eden in but now they DON'T at the Brixton Windmill

they were on that flier with Pipas on the Flier Art thread the other week. named after the pale saints' song, no doubt.

aren't lilies generally a funeral flower?

koogs (koogs), Friday, 12 August 2005 08:02 (twenty years ago)

Well, the thread was named after the Pale Saints song, too. But I did get a reproduction of the Victorian (Edwardian?) book, The Language of Flowers when I was a teenager. So perhaps I just like the Pale Saints because they remind me of the book...

I associate Lillies with Easter. But I suppose, in a way, Easter is kind of a funeral (or at least Good Friday is) anyway.

Alce Tea-Skirt (kate), Friday, 12 August 2005 08:04 (twenty years ago)

Taking sides:

Lotus
http://www.tropicalisland.de/SIN%20Singapore%20Botanic%20Gardens%20lotus%20flowers%20buds%20and%20fruits.jpg

vs.

Orchid
http://www.tropicalisland.de/SIN%20Singapore%20Orchid%20Garden%20orchids.jpg

(Both from the Singapore Botanical Gardens, which my grandfather had something or other to do with! What do botanists do at botanical gardens, anyways? Botanate? Curate?)

Alce Tea-Skirt (kate), Friday, 12 August 2005 08:11 (twenty years ago)

AHA! I remember where Language of Flowers sounds familiar...

Does "the language of flowers" originate from Baudelaire? It's used in translations of 'Elevation' anyhow, the first poem in Fleurs Du Mal.

Anyhow, we got some lovely dahlias the other day. Not the poncey fluffy sort, but nice spiky ones in really deep bold colours, all vibrant and sexual.

Not nuts about lilies, that pollen is just too overpowering for me!

NickB (NickB), Friday, 12 August 2005 08:15 (twenty years ago)

I love this stuff too, those blues totally do something funny to my brain.

Monk's Hood
http://www.saraphina.com/moseyfr/090199/090199-Monk

NickB (NickB), Friday, 12 August 2005 08:19 (twenty years ago)

No, I think the Language Of Flowers was just one of those Victorian fancies - the Symbolists loved it, because they loved anything symbolic. But the actual traditions, I suspect, are much older, rooted in folklore, growing out of traditional medicine/witchcraft or whatever.

I don't know. Or perhaps they are a complete Victorian invention, like Scottish Country Dancing and other "picturesque" and "historical" stuff. If it didn't exist, they'd make it up.

Alce Tea-Skirt (kate), Friday, 12 August 2005 08:20 (twenty years ago)

x-post, those are lovely! Yes, indeed, that deep blue of deep shade plants - violets, bluebells, it's one of my favourite colours.

I couldn't find any Dahlia pictures small enough to post, but my god, they're lovely...

http://images.google.co.uk/images?q=dahlias&hl=en&btnG=Search+Images

Alce Tea-Skirt (kate), Friday, 12 August 2005 08:22 (twenty years ago)

I love calla lillies. My website has used the image of a calla for many years (http://www.memorygongs.com/)

It was all inspired by this originally, I guess:

http://www.cocteautwins.com/images/sleeve_lullabies.jpg

Trayce (trayce), Friday, 12 August 2005 08:22 (twenty years ago)

(Oh sorry Kate, clumsy of me, I was meaning the actual l.o.f. phrase rather than the idea behind it. It's an interesting subject though!)

NickB (NickB), Friday, 12 August 2005 08:25 (twenty years ago)

One of the first 'language of flowers' books:
http://www.gardenhistory.com/pix/20001-183LatourLangage1st1.jpg

Archel (Archel), Friday, 12 August 2005 08:28 (twenty years ago)

I take it this is the band...

http://independentartistscompany.com/Uploads/Language_of_Flowers_-_flowers1.jpg

That's not the book I'm familiar with. Will search for it. It was all watercolours - I think someone made it for their wife or something like that. It was a very charming story.

Alce Tea-Skirt (kate), Friday, 12 August 2005 08:29 (twenty years ago)

I had one too, a facsimile of a Victorian book, along with one about dreams/numeroly/phrenology which was just 'how to catch a husband' by another name. Can't remember what it was actually called though.

Archel (Archel), Friday, 12 August 2005 08:31 (twenty years ago)

Oh, there's a little history behind these books right here:
http://www.literarycalligraphy.com/books/history.html

Blows my theory out of the bathtub anyhow! Damn, I wish I had more time today to read up on this...

NickB (NickB), Friday, 12 August 2005 08:36 (twenty years ago)

I can't seem to find that book that I'm familiar with. But I'll keep looking. Or even just post more links to Language of Flower sites, because all of this is very lovely and making me very happy today!

Alce Tea-Skirt (kate), Friday, 12 August 2005 08:41 (twenty years ago)

I'm being sucked in a Google vortex trying to find that damn husband-catching book - my friend Clare and I wasted literally hundreds of hours playing with it...

In the meantime, I'm liking Statice round the house at moment - cheap and cheerful:
http://www.splendidflowers.com/images/BigP/Other/Statice.jpg

Archel (Archel), Friday, 12 August 2005 09:09 (twenty years ago)

Oh! I've always liked those! Never knew what it was called, though.

(this is the problem with having Botanists in the family. I can recognise hundreds of flowers on sight, but never know what they're called as I've only ever heard the Latin names and can't remember those for the life of me.)

I very nearly bought some Fire Flowers (they were flaming indeed!) for my godmum last weekend in Herne Hill, but I still had a lot of walking to do before I went home, and didn't want them to get crushed. And then forgot to go back for them before I got the bus home.

Alce Tea-Skirt (kate), Friday, 12 August 2005 09:11 (twenty years ago)

When I was a child, my favourite plant was the African Violet:

http://www.dyna-gro.com/images/grow-pics-01.jpg

They are not a member of the violet family (they're probably not even Afrifcan, either) but I love their fuzzy leaves. Maybe I should try growing them again.

I've given up on my roses ever flowering, after the constant blackfly problem. But my current project is trying to grow fuscshia (sp?) from seed. ("Take cuttings, Anderson, you might as well through the seeds overboard" said Sir Joseph Banks) I nicked the fruit from a particularly pretty bush in Herne Hill, so who knows if they'll ever sprout, but still, I can try.

Alce Tea-Skirt (kate), Friday, 12 August 2005 10:41 (twenty years ago)

However, bringing up Captain Anderson just reminded me of his Garland Flower (the plant he raised from seed, to Sir Joseph Banks' amazement and Disapproval).

He talked of it being used by "The Ancients" which would point to its being the European one, Thymelaeaceae Daphne cneorum:

ihttp://androsace.com/data/large/The%20European%20Alps/Thymelaeaceae/Daphne%20cneorum.jpeg

Though given he was supposedly sailing with Sir Joseph Banks (presumably under Captain Cook) it's much more likely to have been the Hawaiian Garland Flower Hedychium coronarium

http://www.desert-tropicals.com/Plants/Zingiberaceae/Hedychium_coronarium.jpg

(This, strangely, bothers me more than Golding's conflation of Poop Deck and Quarterdeck.)

Alce Tea-Skirt (kate), Friday, 12 August 2005 10:54 (twenty years ago)

Ah, I love Botanical Illustrations...

http://www.nal.usda.gov/curtis/images/708.jpg

Alce Tea-Skirt (kate), Friday, 12 August 2005 11:06 (twenty years ago)

Apropos of nothing, but... we have mutant nasturtiums in our back yard - it gets no sun to speak off so the nasturtiums (which we planted from seed when we first moved in) have snaked across the ground, up the wall, round the solitary tree, anywhere they can possibly get a bit more light. I never even knew they could do that - before I'd only ever seen them sitting demurely in pots.

Archel (Archel), Friday, 12 August 2005 11:07 (twenty years ago)

Are Nasturtiums different from Morning Glories? (Or is it just the latinate name?) Because they are supposed to be climbing plants.

http://www.gardenandflowerimages.com/images/Arch%20with%20Nasturtiums%20208042.jpg

(We have wild ones in our garden and they are getting to a bit of a nuisance, as they are choking out other plants. But I can't bring myself to cut them back as they are so pretty.)

Alce Tea-Skirt (kate), Friday, 12 August 2005 11:22 (twenty years ago)

This is a truly great thread!

moley, Friday, 12 August 2005 11:23 (twenty years ago)

Apropos of nothing, but... we have mutant nasturtiums in our back yard - it gets no sun to speak off so the nasturtiums (which we planted from seed when we first moved in) have snaked across the ground, up the wall, round the solitary tree, anywhere they can possibly get a bit more light. I never even knew they could do that - before I'd only ever seen them sitting demurely in pots.

ihttp://www.affichescinema.com/insc_d/day_triffids.jpg

Panther Pink (Pinkpanther), Friday, 12 August 2005 11:35 (twenty years ago)

Ha I was thinking about that Pink!

But yes, I suppose they ARE morning glories. That's exactly what mine look like Kate, except more so, and more horizontal because they haven't got enough to climb up.

Archel (Archel), Friday, 12 August 2005 11:39 (twenty years ago)

Ha ha ha, Pink!

(I was trying to find a picture of the man-eating plants from Dr. Who - crenoids? - but all I could find were actual proper crinoids, which are not that scary unless you are a piece of algae.)

Archel, I'm jealous - those are beautiful. Ours are white - some gorgeous purple ones climbed over the hedge next door but my housemate's wife (I should just start calling her HMW from now on) either clipped them or pushed them back over the fence. Grrrr.

Alce Tea-Skirt (kate), Friday, 12 August 2005 11:42 (twenty years ago)

Oh, and I'm all wrong anyway. Morning Glories are specifically the purpley blue ones:

http://www.ciphotography.com/Gallery%20Images/Morning%20Glory%20%28NC%29.jpg

Alce Tea-Skirt (kate), Friday, 12 August 2005 11:45 (twenty years ago)

Sorry, I just had to... ;-)

http://davidszondy.com/future/Dystopias/triffid01.gif

Alce Tea-Skirt (kate), Friday, 12 August 2005 11:50 (twenty years ago)

Good thing about nasturtiums is that you can just eat them when they get out of hand. Flowers, leaves, seeds, everything. All in one big salad.

(actually, I don't know if you can eat the seeds raw)

NickB (NickB), Friday, 12 August 2005 11:55 (twenty years ago)

You can, but they make you hallucinate!

(Wait, no, that's morning glories.)

Alce Tea-Skirt (kate), Friday, 12 August 2005 11:57 (twenty years ago)

This florist has really cool stuff, actually:

http://www.antheia.net/

Hurting (Hurting), Friday, 12 August 2005 11:59 (twenty years ago)

Meh, actually the pix on their web site aren't as good as what I saw in person.

Hurting (Hurting), Friday, 12 August 2005 12:01 (twenty years ago)

I'm really enjoying the Butterfly Gardens Site for all kinds of crazy tropical orchids and things! They had tiger garland flowers! And Frangipanis, which my granny always liked just cause of the name.

Alce Tea-Skirt (kate), Friday, 12 August 2005 12:04 (twenty years ago)

Ha ha, these look like something that little girls would wear in their hair!

http://butterflygardens.com/photolog/files/img_4235f7a3465b7.jpg

The "Powderpuff Plant".

Alce Tea-Skirt (kate), Friday, 12 August 2005 12:09 (twenty years ago)

Wow!!

Archel (Archel), Friday, 12 August 2005 12:30 (twenty years ago)

i've tried giving/sending flowers according to the language of flowers guideline but they just didn't get it.


i love that kind of thing, symbolism, etc etc. it mostly goes unnoticed seemingly.

ai lien (kold_krush), Friday, 12 August 2005 12:45 (twenty years ago)

Boys Most people are rubbish and generally do not understand such things.

Alce Tea-Skirt (kate), Friday, 12 August 2005 12:47 (twenty years ago)

>>I remember where Language of Flowers sounds familiar... they are >>the posh/not posh Belfast band that played with a band that used >>to have Malcom Eden in but now they DON'T at the Brixton Windmill

>>they were on that flier with Pipas on the Flier Art thread the >>other week. named after the pale saints' song, no doubt.

I immediately thought of this band when I saw this thread! They're OK, they sound more like the Popguns than Pale Saints though I think.

Colonel Poo (Colonel Poo), Friday, 12 August 2005 12:49 (twenty years ago)

then there's 'flowers of romance', pil song.

ai lien (kold_krush), Friday, 12 August 2005 12:54 (twenty years ago)

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it's true, boys usually don't get it, right? but most girls, too!

ai lien (kold_krush), Friday, 12 August 2005 12:57 (twenty years ago)

Hence why I amended my original post, Ailien!

Sigh. I will be like Captain Anderson, a garland flower, and stick to fertilising myself.

http://www.panteek.com/curtis03/thumbs/c708.jpg

Alce Tea-Skirt (kate), Friday, 12 August 2005 13:02 (twenty years ago)

oh, ha, sorry. i should've paid more attention. haven't had my coffee yet.

ai lien (kold_krush), Friday, 12 August 2005 13:05 (twenty years ago)

http://www.urbanext.uiuc.edu/gpe/images/flower12.gif

Ah, Captain Anderson, if only you could stick your pointy-nosed stamen in my pistil...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/drama/totheendsoftheearth/images/450x187/episode1.jpg

Alce Tea-Skirt (kate), Friday, 12 August 2005 13:05 (twenty years ago)

OK, that was truly shameful and I apologise deeply.

Alce Tea-Skirt (kate), Friday, 12 August 2005 13:06 (twenty years ago)

I killed my own thread. Serves me right.

Alce Tea-Skirt (kate), Friday, 12 August 2005 13:23 (twenty years ago)

Kate, you would like this exhibition of botanical art: http://www.ashmus.ox.ac.uk/ash/exhibitions/exh075.html

I have been and some of it is amazing.

liz (lizg), Friday, 12 August 2005 13:36 (twenty years ago)

Oh, that does look lovely! But it's only on until 11th September. Johnney, Mark, either of you fancy a houseguest that weekend?

Alce Tea-Skirt (kate), Friday, 12 August 2005 13:40 (twenty years ago)

Blimey, this is a terrifying looking flower!

http://biology.clc.uc.edu/graphics/taxonomy/plants/spermatophyta/angiosperms/dicotyledonae/aristolochiaceae/Wild%20Ginger/DBF%20970501%20Wild%20Ginger%201.jpg

Wild ginger, apparently.

I like to eat it, but I wouldn't like to meet it!

Alce Tea-Skirt (kate), Friday, 12 August 2005 13:56 (twenty years ago)

Ah, Captain Anderson, if only you could stick your pointy-nosed stamen in my pistil...

You deserve some stigma for that comment ;-)

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Saturday, 13 August 2005 06:41 (twenty years ago)

Hee :)

Oh! I just remembered anovva flower I love: the bird of paradise flower.

http://www.rikjorj.com/parabird.jpg

They totally do look like birds heads! They must grow well in Melbourne's climate (which is odd, arent they tropical?) cos quite a lot of gardens in my suburb seem to have them.

Trayce (trayce), Saturday, 13 August 2005 07:17 (twenty years ago)

I love this thread! Masonicboom, you are making my day! (Beth Parker -gardner extroidinaire -to thread immediately!)
I live in a third floor walk-up flat, so not much gardening going on. I have pansies and portulaca in pots on my porch.
And tons of houseplants, mostly cast-offs from other people. Including a moody ficus tree, that requires me to vacuum a lot when it's in a snit.

aimurchie (aimurchie), Saturday, 13 August 2005 10:16 (twenty years ago)

I love calla lillies.

I always wondered what type of flower that was on the back of Lullabies! Thank you, Trayce!

Ian Riese-Moraine: a casualty of social estrangement. (Eastern Mantra), Saturday, 13 August 2005 16:52 (twenty years ago)

Some people don't realize this, but flowers are totally gay.

Binah, Saturday, 13 August 2005 17:02 (twenty years ago)

I got flowers a week ago from someone who cares about me very much because I was having a FUCKED UP DAY

luna (luna.c), Saturday, 13 August 2005 17:48 (twenty years ago)

it was really sweet.

luna (luna.c), Saturday, 13 August 2005 17:48 (twenty years ago)

Botanists at botanic gardens tend to curate collections, which means deciding what to plant where, sourcing seed, growing things on, etc. Lots of them seem also to do random taxonomic work, deciding if things are the same or different species and what name they should go by.

Botanising is what people do when they wander round looking at plants.

Interestingly, that garland flower is a kind of ginger.

I hardly ever get flowers, but I got a potted chysanthemum last week. Unfortunately I am crap at potplants: it is easier to set them free in the garden outside.

isadora (isadora), Sunday, 14 August 2005 22:53 (twenty years ago)

Bird of Paradise flower! Those come from South Africa! (Except we called them Crane Flowers.) They have some mad flowers down there. Which is probably how my botanist grandparents ended up there. Also those giant spiney flowers... Proteas? Is that what they are called?

ihttp://www.kavanahomes.com/images/PROTEAS.JPG

I am glad that this thread is making others happy. I need to spend more time on it looking at the flowers.

This weekend I rescued a tea rose bush from Safeway for 79p! It was reduced because all of its buds had fallen off - it was in way too small a pot, like those poor herbs that always die when you get them home. So I repotted it and fed it and it seems to be perking up now.

And! My roses (despite the weird chalky leaf disease that one seems to have developped. Where is Captain Anderson to dust its leaves with flowers of sulphur?) have actually budded! I may have roses yet!

Alce Tea-Skirt (kate), Monday, 15 August 2005 07:10 (twenty years ago)

Why did that linkify? It was small!!!

Maybe this one will work:

http://www.bryerpatch.com/news/africa2000/flowers/protea1.jpg

Alce Tea-Skirt (kate), Monday, 15 August 2005 07:15 (twenty years ago)

I love these things... they look like they come from Mars or something!

http://www.bryerpatch.com/news/africa2000/flowers/protea2.jpg

Alce Tea-Skirt (kate), Monday, 15 August 2005 07:18 (twenty years ago)

i like the band. and the pretty things.
it took a helluva lot of not-so-subtle hints before my man FINALLY got me flowers for the first time. as an apology. DUD.
unexpected treat is the way to go.

dahlin (dahlin), Monday, 15 August 2005 08:06 (twenty years ago)


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