TEH GRIZZLY MAN

There's no video footage of the attack, but the audio on Treadwell's camera was on. Herzog films himself listening to the audio while Treadwell's good friend watches him. Herzog rubs his eyes in what looks like slight distress and the good friend starts to sob. He takes her hand and tells her to never listen to the tape and never look at the coroner's photos. She swears that she never will.

I thought watching Herzog's reaction to hearing the tape was pretty intense. I mean, the dude is no joke so if it upsets him, it's got to be pretty bad. But the part where he makes the woman swear to never listen is kind of annoying.

The combination of Herzog's reaction to the tape and the coroner's theatrical description did a good job of communicating to the viewer how horrific the tape had to have been without making us actually sit captive and hear it, and I'm glad. Just hearng that the attack lasted a full six minutes was pretty tough. That's a long time to spend being eaten alive by a bear.

going to see this today

* **** ***

I also heart Roger Ebert.

just as well he has never made a normal film then.

Yeah, his early work is not known for its humane treatment of animals. I was always worried about some of the critters in Even Dwarves Started Small and all those monkeys in Aguirre.

can you tell more about this or is there a link?

At one point they tried dying white rats to make them match plague-carrying rats - so they dipped them in boiling dye and couldn't figure out why those batches kept immediately dying.

Richard Thompson (electric guitar) and Jim O'Rourke (acoustic guitar and piano) plus a couple others... totally epic! Is there a soundtrack available?

No, just a dude with google who liked a movie.

Richard Thompson (electric guitar) and Jim O'Rourke (acoustic guitar and piano) plus a couple others... totally epic! Is there a soundtrack available?

http://www.richardthompson-music.com/catch_of_the_day.asp?id=412

My wife and I say that to eachother all the time.

Werner Herzog is awesome.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/3/34/Even_dwarfs_started_small_01.jpg
probably his most fucked up gem. (Auch Zwergen Haben Klein Angefangen)

love this movie

I saw even dwarves start small a few days ago and it may be my favorite herzog film

the day there are no more werner herzog films, I will be sad

the most amazing thing about Auch Zwergen is the part (probable more) when the blind dwarves start maniacally and dangerously swinging their sticks around. o_O

favourite herzog is stroszek

this film is rad tho

watched the one abt antarctica the other nite pretty sweet

crispin glover was kind of an asshole on the auch zwergen commentary track

watching My Best Fiend now.

Herzog is pretty much the coolest guy ever.

herzog shd remake march of the penguins!

"zese DELUDED animals, marching blindly zey not where, in a universe of chaos, pain and death..."

"With five thousand kilometres ahead of him, he's heading towards certain death..."

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this film is way rad.

NEVER LISTEN TO DIS TAPE.

― Suggesteban Cambiasso (jim), Wednesday, 15 April 2009 19:55 (Yesterday) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

My wife and I say that to eachother all the time.

― Alex in SF, Wednesday, 15 April 2009 19:57 (Yesterday) Bookmark

haha me and my flatmate say this too constantly! "never listen to it, promise meee, never." "OKAY WERNER! I WON'T WERNER", "never, ever ever listen too eeet"

that tape and the secret sacred cave in the white diamond were totally herzog understanding that they were just more cinematicly potent concealed than revealed

the special feature on "the wild blue yonder" dvd about the making of the score IS SO AMAZING.

Pretty much all his commentaries to the dvd reissues are insightful, deep and funny.
Great ruminations on his love for Middle America, on being considered a "fascist" back in the 70's, on his total lack of any political/social/religious agenda (while been a thoughtful observer of societies and religions), on his hatred for cinéma-vérité and J.L. Godard.
The guy is an egomaniac totally devoted to his muse, in the most personal powerful and anti-academic way possible. A shame he never had the chance to shot Buechner's "Lenz".
By the way, I still think that his 1971 "Behinderte Zukunft?" is eerily prescient of some of the current bioethics issues.

Dwarfs was the first Herzog I saw. I love that film irrationally.

Still haven't seen Grizzy Man, it's on my to-do list tho. The only Herzog doc I've seen is Little Dieter Needs to Fly, which I adore.

Most of his documentaries are ace.
Personal faves are maybe "Die Große Ekstase des Bildschnitzers Steiner" (with extraordinary Popol Vuh soundtrack) and "Land des Schweigens und der Dunkelheit" but almost every one of them is great.

nice work, danski

What's the name of the one about the wacky Canadian whose life mission is to build bear-proof body armor? I always confuse its title with this one, but now I'm just drawin a blank.

That's the one.

I walked in on the scene where he and his buddies were in a diner with an acoustic guitar singing songs about grizzlies and was all 'lamest mockumentary ever!', until I realized it wasn't.

"When faced with the jeering and hollering of the 1,500 booing patrons who despised his Lessons of Darkness at the Berlin Film Festival, Herzog shouted back: "You are all wrong."

<3 <3 <3

From his "Minnesota declaration: truth and fact in documentary cinema":

The moon is dull. Mother Nature doesn´t call, doesn´t speak to you, although a glacier eventually farts. And don´t you listen to the Song of Life.

We ought to be grateful that the Universe out there knows no smile.

Life in the oceans must be sheer hell. A vast, merciless hell of permanent and immediate danger. So much of a hell that during evolution some species - including man - crawled, fled onto some small continents of solid land, where the Lessons of Darkness continue.

I think I told this story on another thread, but I love it:
I saw Grizzly Man at a pre-screening at The Museum of Natural History and there was a Q+A afterwards with Werner, Jewel and a badly mauled (by bear) bear expert.
Someone asked Werner what the point of the film was and Werner, not missing a beat, replied "What is the point of children?"

Also, if you haven't already:

SPONGE

herzog shd remake march of the penguins!

"zese DELUDED animals, marching blindly zey not where, in a universe of chaos, pain and death..."

(this is not my own joke sadly)

http://thequietus.com/articles/01523-herzog-s-encounters-at-the-end-of-the-world

"In another scene, Herzog is bored to tears talking to a penguin expert so he asks the seemingly flippant question, "Can a penguin go insane?""

loving this already

Watched this last night. Over-riding opinion = Treadwell was gay / transgender and repressed it so much that he went nuts and ran away to live with bears, which then ate him. His body language reminded me of nothing so much as a drag queen.

saw that antarctica doc the other day, it was awesome (of course)

this guy=total douche btw

I like how Herzog says "we only have two shots of Amie in his 100 hours of footage..." and whoops don't you know there she is in one of the final shots before they die.

probably the most telling detail for me was how he rearranged the river rocks to make it easier for the (nonexistent) salmon to swim down during the drought

Fuck
http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/265455/Bear-s-eating-me-girl-told-mum-in-call

wtf

Read that this morning gruesome.

Also, watched this movie a couple weeks ago for the first time. LOVE.

wouldn't dare to speak it in the documentary poll thread, but yes it's totally amazing.

I do like this movie a lot, although it fueled my phobia of bears. I was hyper paranoid about getting attacked by a bear when I was in Alaska.

wouldn't dare to speak it in the documentary poll thread, but yes it's totally amazing.

― sonderangerbot, Wednesday, August 17, 2011 2:08 PM (14 minutes ago) Bookmark

It placed really highly and was one of my #1s. Fuck the haters imo. It rules.

that is the kind of news no one really needs to know about

His lengthy rant against the park service is so so bizarre.

why the fuck was that girl in bear country anyway

There's an interesting chapter about this movie in Dominic Pettman's book "Human Error"

http://www.guardian.co.uk/lifeandstyle/2013/jun/29/experience-i-punched-a-bear

Would not be surprised to learn that this guy became tiger food:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MNCzSfv4hX8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qxhac0bWENY

https://www.outsideonline.com/2396854/grizzly-mauling-yukon?utm_source=pocket-newtab

Timmy Treadwell's tiktok would have been intense

I saw this film when it was in the cinema over here. So not seen it in 19 years I think. & have it in an association complex with Into The Wild, the attack part of the Revenant and the Bill Bryson section on bears. Bryson talks about parents smearing peanut butter on kids hands to photograph bears licking it off. Had that running through my head recently for some reason.

Think I may need a rewatch.

I do remember the s/trk being notable. Hadn't been conscious of Jim O'Rourke being involved. But never got the CD. Was aware of it being an improvised set by Richard Thompson so an oddity of sorts possibly. Which had me thinking of the Dead Man s/trk which in my head was roughly contemporary Neil Young. Now seeing it was 10 years earlier. I may need a copy of the CD. Do like a bit of Thompson.

Yer in luck, No Quarter Records just recently reissued the soundtrack, well worth picking up:

https://richardthompson.bandcamp.com/album/music-from-grizzly-man