Obviously, there is a much better Sin City dvd in the works. Does anyone know a release date?
Personally, I feel that a future, better, edition does not justify giving this dvd NOOOOTHIIIIING. Even the first LotR releases had extra features. Raaar.
― Jessie the Monster (scarymonsterrr), Thursday, 18 August 2005 17:15 (twenty years ago)
― n/a (Nick A.), Thursday, 18 August 2005 17:19 (twenty years ago)
So I punched her in the eye.
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― RJG (RJG), Thursday, 18 August 2005 18:02 (twenty years ago)
― Outsider Enter Port City (sexyDancer), Thursday, 18 August 2005 18:02 (twenty years ago)
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(I've decided to use those frigging rofl gifs in silly threads.)
― nathalie starts to cry each time we meet (stevie nixed), Thursday, 18 August 2005 18:34 (twenty years ago)
― Outsider Enter Port City (sexyDancer), Thursday, 18 August 2005 18:35 (twenty years ago)
― Leeeeeeee (Leee), Thursday, 18 August 2005 21:45 (twenty years ago)
― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Thursday, 18 August 2005 21:46 (twenty years ago)
― sleep (sleep), Friday, 19 August 2005 02:10 (twenty years ago)
I am a whore for special features, sue me.
― Jessie the Monster (scarymonsterrr), Friday, 19 August 2005 02:46 (twenty years ago)
― Miss Misery (thatgirl), Friday, 19 August 2005 11:47 (twenty years ago)
Maybe they will re-edit Jabba the Hutt back into it.
― Jessie the Monster (scarymonsterrr), Friday, 19 August 2005 16:42 (twenty years ago)
― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 19 August 2005 16:45 (twenty years ago)
― gear (gear), Friday, 19 August 2005 16:46 (twenty years ago)
― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Friday, 19 August 2005 16:51 (twenty years ago)
― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Friday, 19 August 2005 16:52 (twenty years ago)
― gear (gear), Friday, 19 August 2005 16:53 (twenty years ago)
I think Sin City just seems like the ultimate conflation of porn and violence, but made for children. It is f*cked.
― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Friday, 19 August 2005 16:55 (twenty years ago)
― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 19 August 2005 16:55 (twenty years ago)
― Jams Murphy (ystrickler), Friday, 19 August 2005 16:58 (twenty years ago)
― gear (gear), Friday, 19 August 2005 16:59 (twenty years ago)
― The Ghost of I Thought I'd Cornered The Market On Empty Patronization (Dan Perry, Friday, 19 August 2005 17:02 (twenty years ago)
― Huk-L (Huk-L), Friday, 19 August 2005 17:03 (twenty years ago)
― gear (gear), Friday, 19 August 2005 17:04 (twenty years ago)
I think I'd be more ok with it if there was at least a wink of humor, but it takes itself so seriously.
As for the kid appeal, I guess I should say adolescent boys who are often attracted to things called "comic books".
― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Friday, 19 August 2005 17:07 (twenty years ago)
― walter kranz (walterkranz), Friday, 19 August 2005 17:09 (twenty years ago)
― gear (gear), Friday, 19 August 2005 17:11 (twenty years ago)
Speaking as a fan of the Sin City comic, I was bored by the movie. Speaking as a filmgoer, I was bored by the movie. Speaking as a perv, I was bored by the movie.
Spencer OTM about lack of humor which totally deep-6'ed the film.
― Leeeeeeee (Leee), Friday, 19 August 2005 17:12 (twenty years ago)
Um, what exactly do you mean by this?
What part of the phrase "empty patronization" was unclear, Spencer? Comic books are pitched at different age levels; things like "Sin City" and "Maus" are not being pitched to the same group as "Spider-Man" and "The Uncanny X-Men", which in turn aren't being pitched to the same group as "Archie". Conflating all of them into one "THEY'RE FOR TEH KIDDIEZ" stance is prejudicial, incorrect and stupid.
― The Ghost of Black Elegance (Dan Perry), Friday, 19 August 2005 17:14 (twenty years ago)
― Leeeeeeee (Leee), Friday, 19 August 2005 17:14 (twenty years ago)
― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Friday, 19 August 2005 17:15 (twenty years ago)
ADAM WEST IN REVERSE!
― Huk-L (Huk-L), Friday, 19 August 2005 17:16 (twenty years ago)
― Huk-L (Huk-L), Friday, 19 August 2005 17:17 (twenty years ago)
As for comics being pitched at different age levels, anytime I've been in a comic store, I mostly see male teenagers.
― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Friday, 19 August 2005 17:17 (twenty years ago)
― Huk-L (Huk-L), Friday, 19 August 2005 17:18 (twenty years ago)
Thank you for protecting my virgin eyes, Spencer; Lord knows I'm not an adult who can decide what I can and can't handle when it comes to disturbing visuals in my entertainment.
Dan, see Leeeeee's agreement for lack of humor confirmation.
Oh! So all of the laughing I was doing was because I didn't think it was funny! I understand now!
For fuck's sake.
― The Ghost of When Did Spencer Turn Into Tipper Gore? (Dan Perry), Friday, 19 August 2005 17:18 (twenty years ago)
― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Friday, 19 August 2005 17:20 (twenty years ago)
― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Friday, 19 August 2005 17:21 (twenty years ago)
― s1ocki (slutsky), Friday, 19 August 2005 17:21 (twenty years ago)
OTM. Except I take the term "uniquely perverse" to be a recommendation rather than a criticism.
― walter kranz (walterkranz), Friday, 19 August 2005 17:26 (twenty years ago)
― The Ghost of Black Elegance (Dan Perry), Friday, 19 August 2005 17:27 (twenty years ago)
― David R. (popshots75`), Friday, 19 August 2005 17:30 (twenty years ago)
― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Friday, 19 August 2005 17:33 (twenty years ago)
Um.
Dammit, WITHOUT RIGHTEOUE IRE I AM NOTHING
― The Ghost of MUST ATTACK SPENCER SOMEHOW (Dan Perry), Friday, 19 August 2005 17:34 (twenty years ago)
― The Ghost of That Goes In There Somewhere (Dan Perry), Friday, 19 August 2005 17:35 (twenty years ago)
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― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Friday, 19 August 2005 17:36 (twenty years ago)
― 2, Friday, 19 August 2005 17:37 (twenty years ago)
That's funny, I'm usually the youngest person in the comic store (and I'm there pretty much every week).
I can see Leee and Spencer's points, but I liked the movie anyway.
― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 19 August 2005 17:37 (twenty years ago)
Weird, because GTA is produced by a bunch of Scots who seem to revel in parodying American culture. Hang around in Ammu-Nation for a while and listen to their PA run rampant over redneck red-scare 2nd Amendment rhetoric.
Sin City I liked OK, but the undercurrent of urpiness I got looking back on it seems to stem more from some intangible aesthetic problem more than the violence.
― disco violence (disco violence), Friday, 19 August 2005 17:42 (twenty years ago)
― gear (gear), Friday, 19 August 2005 17:44 (twenty years ago)
― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Friday, 19 August 2005 17:46 (twenty years ago)
but in all honesty i don't think rr/sin city should be singled out. not to go all morbius, but i don't think american mainstream films are made for anyone other than high schoolers.
― gear (gear), Friday, 19 August 2005 17:55 (twenty years ago)
Rodriquez has said everywhere that he's working on a multi-disc DVD release for the late fall.
― Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Friday, 19 August 2005 17:58 (twenty years ago)
― disco violence (disco violence), Friday, 19 August 2005 18:34 (twenty years ago)
Haha, yeah, I'm still waiting on Kill Bill.
And thanks for elaborating on your opinion on the movie, Spencer--I was going to ask about it myself before Dan beat me to the punch (the horribly gory, black-and-white punch IN THE TESTICLES)--I find your position very interesting now that you've elaborated on it. While I agree Sin City isn't a good film it's a very entertaining movie (two things I find are very, very different) to me at least, violence and over-the-top melodrama and all. However, I am also lucky enough to never be around teenagers long enough to hear them talk about the film--if I heard them talk about it I'd probably start hating it as much as I hate Donnie Darko. :p
― Jessie the Monster (scarymonsterrr), Saturday, 20 August 2005 04:07 (twenty years ago)
― Legroom at the Vista (Bent Over at the Arclight), Saturday, 20 August 2005 06:36 (twenty years ago)
― Miss Misery (thatgirl), Saturday, 20 August 2005 06:46 (twenty years ago)
A) If anyone who saw this movie didn't catch the humor in the dead Benicio chatting away in the car scenes, I am confounded.
B) The violence in the movie is an example of faithful adaptation of the subject material, and thus should be lauded, not damned (go after the comic if you find it distasteful.)
C) Complaining about Rodriguez embracing the cheap and fast aspects of digital filmmaking, given his history as a filmmaker (El Mariachi made via his credit cards, personal loans, and borrowing his friends cars) is shortsighted at best.
Getting back to the original question, the fact that Best Buy bundled the purchase of the film with a Sin City comic (outside of the film's story curve) alone makes it a worthwhile release.
And it's a great fucking movie.
― John Justen (johnjusten), Saturday, 20 August 2005 07:00 (twenty years ago)
It actually reminded me most of a PS2 game, it had that gloopy feel of slightly clichéd plot and ridiculous characters all mashed together into a story, and I think it was really good for this. With the "playing" element removed you could still watch it as entertainment, the same sort of weird reality that you see in video games alot, whatever melange of influences from other areas of cilture gave birth to that.
― Ronan (Ronan), Saturday, 20 August 2005 10:07 (twenty years ago)
― The Ghost of Black Elegance (Dan Perry), Saturday, 20 August 2005 10:59 (twenty years ago)
-- gear (speed.to.roa...), August 19th, 2005.
OTFM
― latebloomer's rectal mocha latte (latebloomer), Saturday, 20 August 2005 11:08 (twenty years ago)
― latebloomer's rectal mocha latte (latebloomer), Saturday, 20 August 2005 11:14 (twenty years ago)
it was easy enough to detach it from life because it looked very unreal and, yes, it was full of hard-boiled/pulpy/etc. cliches, in character and dialogue
it was difficult not to laugh at michael madsen telling bruce willis "you've got a bum ticker" and the ton of v. deliberate double-negatives and lots of other things that were said/done
also, the fake noses and chins and clive owen's accent
― RJG (RJG), Saturday, 20 August 2005 11:26 (twenty years ago)
i was REVOLTED by kill bill pt 1
― stevie (stevie), Saturday, 20 August 2005 12:32 (twenty years ago)
I don't read funny books, I don't care about them in the least - I did see the film. Faithful or not, then, my problem is with the film. It was Rodriguez's choice to be 'faithful' in his adaptation - if that makes for a terrible movie, then it's his fault.
I'm not sure why a "faithful adaptation" should be lauded in itself. Some things shouldn't be faithfully translated, 'cuz the source material sucks.
It's not shortsighted at all. Rodriguez can brag all he wants about his "fast, cheap and out of control" methodology - but it still (more often than not) creates terrible movies. That's the point. You have to back up your methods with decent films - and Rodriguez doesn't. Whereas, if he had some other people offering input or taking on roles, he might make something decent again.
― milozauckerman (miloaukerman), Saturday, 20 August 2005 14:47 (twenty years ago)
― Leeeeeeee (Leee), Saturday, 20 August 2005 18:41 (twenty years ago)
"....[w]hile Junior has his way with victim number four. VICTIM NUMBER FOUR!!! Nancy Callahan, AGE ELEVEN!"
If they were being genuinely dead serious with that line then yes, the movie is terrible. Otherwise it is ABSOLUTELY FUCKING BRILLIANT.
Although I really think this debate just shows the differences between people who enjoy primarily intelligent, thoughtful films, and those of us who like us some explosions and pulp violence and goofy melodrama with our daily sodium intake.
IT'S PART OF HIS CLEVER DISGUISE, DUH.
The random insertion of Irish mercenaries would indicate a lack of seriousness as well.
― Jessie the Monster (scarymonsterrr), Sunday, 21 August 2005 01:07 (twenty years ago)
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― RJG (RJG), Sunday, 21 August 2005 01:59 (twenty years ago)
― latebloomer's rectal mocha latte (latebloomer), Sunday, 21 August 2005 02:02 (twenty years ago)
No way. I like explosions and pulp violence as much as most people (the one movie of the fall I cannot wait to see is Domino). I just prefer well-done explosions and pulp violence to this crap.
― milozauckerman (miloaukerman), Sunday, 21 August 2005 02:48 (twenty years ago)
― Chris H. (chrisherbert), Sunday, 21 August 2005 04:02 (twenty years ago)
― dog latin (dog latin), Sunday, 21 August 2005 12:42 (twenty years ago)
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This can be true but it not always true as sometimes they don't even use up all the space even when they have it (and even when they use it all they still often screw up transfers!).
I should note that even thought I don't like the movie overall, I think it looks great (which is usually enough for me, but not in this case).
― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Sunday, 21 August 2005 16:37 (twenty years ago)
"Every single children's film is an enemy to the Republic"
― Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Monday, 22 August 2005 00:11 (twenty years ago)
-- milozauckerman (wooderso...), August 21st, 2005 11:48 PM. (later) (link)
I heard they made her heterosexual in the movie. Lame. :/
― Jessie the Monster (scarymonsterrr), Monday, 22 August 2005 02:00 (twenty years ago)
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― M. V. (M.V.), Tuesday, 13 September 2005 01:24 (twenty years ago)
I admit I'm amused by this.
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 13 September 2005 01:32 (twenty years ago)
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