Speculation is rife about the sexuality of the following:
Simon CowellLouis WalshWilliam HagueSeb CoeDarren DayRobbie Williams
Are they gay?
Assuming they are all gay and a bunch of people give anecdotal evidence below, what are the legal implications for ILX? Is it ok to discuss this type of thing on the internet or do libel laws apply?
And in other news, is it correct that the NoTW have a bunch of pics of Beckham snorting coke but don't want to destroy the Beckham brand so carroting them in front of Davie's face, trying to get a 'Beckers Confesses!' interview out of him? Is supposed nice-guy Gary Lineker a notorious womaniser who once had an affairs with the tabloid's most spiteful harridan uck, uck, uck Ulrika Jonsson?
Seriously, is Simon Cowell gay? I must know!
― jonny-gi, Monday, 22 August 2005 11:05 (twenty years ago)
― Diddyismus the Blind (of Alexandria) (Dada), Monday, 22 August 2005 11:09 (twenty years ago)
It is not okay to answer the question, if your answer is actually incorrect.
It is stupid to care either way.
― Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Monday, 22 August 2005 11:09 (twenty years ago)
Who cares, really? Why does it matter?
― Trayce (trayce), Monday, 22 August 2005 11:10 (twenty years ago)
― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Monday, 22 August 2005 11:10 (twenty years ago)
― Onimo (GerryNemo), Monday, 22 August 2005 11:12 (twenty years ago)
― I Dream Of Sleep (kate), Monday, 22 August 2005 11:12 (twenty years ago)
― Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Monday, 22 August 2005 11:13 (twenty years ago)
Yes it is stupid to care. But only in the same way that it's stupid to care who wins Big Brother.
I'm sure Cowell is gay. Let's look at the evidence:Over 40.Unmarried. Close to his mother.
GAY!
(hiya all you holier/broadsheeter than thouest nay-sayers! i don't think is the thread for you, try the one directly below, thx bye)
― j-gi, Monday, 22 August 2005 11:18 (twenty years ago)
What about Desmond Carrington though?
― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Monday, 22 August 2005 11:21 (twenty years ago)
― Diddyismus the Blind (of Alexandria) (Dada), Monday, 22 August 2005 11:22 (twenty years ago)
― Trayce (trayce), Monday, 22 August 2005 11:22 (twenty years ago)
― I Dream Of Sleep (kate), Monday, 22 August 2005 11:23 (twenty years ago)
― spontine (cis), Monday, 22 August 2005 11:25 (twenty years ago)
― I Dream Of Sleep (kate), Monday, 22 August 2005 11:26 (twenty years ago)
― jed_ (jed), Monday, 22 August 2005 11:28 (twenty years ago)
― beanz (beanz), Monday, 22 August 2005 11:28 (twenty years ago)
― Diddyismus the Blind (of Alexandria) (Dada), Monday, 22 August 2005 11:29 (twenty years ago)
*Note: This joke is several millenia old
― beanz (beanz), Monday, 22 August 2005 11:30 (twenty years ago)
― I Dream Of Sleep (kate), Monday, 22 August 2005 11:30 (twenty years ago)
I've never heard of these people, are they British celebs or something?
― Tuomas (Tuomas), Monday, 22 August 2005 11:31 (twenty years ago)
― I Dream Of Sleep (kate), Monday, 22 August 2005 11:31 (twenty years ago)
― Diddyismus the Blind (of Alexandria) (Dada), Monday, 22 August 2005 11:33 (twenty years ago)
― I Dream Of Sleep (kate), Monday, 22 August 2005 11:35 (twenty years ago)
― Diddyismus the Blind (of Alexandria) (Dada), Monday, 22 August 2005 11:37 (twenty years ago)
Louis Walsh - X Factor judge and boyband music mogul typeWilliam Hague - Former leader of the Conservative PartySeb Coe - world class middle distance runner, world record holder, Olympic Gold Medal winner, then a Conservative MP and now Lord Coe. Instrumental in London's succssful 2012 Olympic bid. (and also formerly William Hague's personal trainerDarren Day - he's not a celebrity, get him out of here
― Onimo (GerryNemo), Monday, 22 August 2005 11:37 (twenty years ago)
I care, really. Well, mildly. Enough to spend a few minutes posting a message on an internet messageboard full of questions like 'cough medicines - classic or dud'. It doesn't matter much, hardly anything does.
So you dont like gay people then, do you j-gi? I mean why else would it matter to you? Do you HAVE to know how many times a week some pop starlet or actor has a shag or a shit?
Wow. Why the bilious reaction? I almost feel like I shouldn't respond to something so laughably obnoxious (hi kids, please quote this and obey in relation to this thread!). I like knowing about celebrities. I'm very interested in their secrets. If a celebrity is gay and hiding it then this is interesting.
If part one of the question mortifies you so much why not a) ignore the thread, b) answer the 2nd part about the libel. And hell, yeah I wouldn't mind knowing how many times a week Jessica Simpson has a shit and shag.
I wasn't aware that Louis Walsh was out. Assuming that Simon is in the closet, I wonder what his reasons are for staying there.
Yeah, sorry Americans/non-Brits. These are all a bunch of British celebs/politicians.
― johnny-gi, Monday, 22 August 2005 11:38 (twenty years ago)
Here I was hoping that the poster really was just talking about random people that they knew from down the pub/bloke at their school or something like that. Would have been much better that way.
― I Dream Of Sleep (kate), Monday, 22 August 2005 11:41 (twenty years ago)
― Trayce (trayce), Monday, 22 August 2005 11:49 (twenty years ago)
Yes, sometimes. Other times they are very sad, lonely and want a cuddle.
― nathalie starts to cry each time we meet (stevie nixed), Monday, 22 August 2005 11:49 (twenty years ago)
Well Darren Day could possibly fit into that category, and probably Hague as well given that hacks couldn't be arsed writing about him when he was a Potential Prime Minister.
― Onimo (GerryNemo), Monday, 22 August 2005 11:50 (twenty years ago)
― Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Monday, 22 August 2005 11:54 (twenty years ago)
― Diddyismus the Blind (of Alexandria) (Dada), Monday, 22 August 2005 11:58 (twenty years ago)
― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Monday, 22 August 2005 11:58 (twenty years ago)
― Diddyismus the Blind (of Alexandria) (Dada), Monday, 22 August 2005 12:00 (twenty years ago)
― Suziah T Azzahole (blueski), Monday, 22 August 2005 12:00 (twenty years ago)
― Onimo (GerryNemo), Monday, 22 August 2005 12:02 (twenty years ago)
http://www.jokewallpaper.com/jokepayed2002/willhague/haguew.jpg
― Diddyismus the Blind (of Alexandria) (Dada), Monday, 22 August 2005 12:05 (twenty years ago)
― Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Monday, 22 August 2005 12:07 (twenty years ago)
― Diddyismus the Blind (of Alexandria) (Dada), Monday, 22 August 2005 12:16 (twenty years ago)
*also a colossal poof
― Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Monday, 22 August 2005 12:18 (twenty years ago)
― Crackity (Crackity Jones), Monday, 22 August 2005 20:48 (twenty years ago)
― Casuistry (Chris P), Monday, 22 August 2005 21:12 (twenty years ago)
― everything, Monday, 22 August 2005 21:44 (twenty years ago)
― derrick (derrick), Monday, 22 August 2005 22:49 (twenty years ago)
― Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Tuesday, 23 August 2005 08:38 (twenty years ago)
― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Tuesday, 23 August 2005 08:42 (twenty years ago)
casuistry, im interested in both the first qu, and the 2nd qu. i'd like to know if the above-named are gay or not, and about the legality of asking such qus on a freely accessible message board.
trayce, i think qus about losing jobs, relationships ending, feeling suicidal, etc are a bit 'overdone' but i woudn't go on those threads accusing them of being a fucking racist or whatever. 'yanking your chain' is a pretty pathetic excuse btw.
google comes up with nothing about louis walsh being openly gay.
amusingly, the seb coe rumour comes from him being seen carrying hague's bags into parliament one time.
― jgi, Tuesday, 23 August 2005 08:55 (twenty years ago)
― jgi, Tuesday, 23 August 2005 08:56 (twenty years ago)
My original point also, rude as it was (playfully so, though) was genuine - why does it matter? It just feels like asking this, esp in light of libel, implies that labelling someone gay is an accusation or slur that is a terrible thing. The fact that is even possible is a bit sad, I think. Thats all rilly.
― Trayce (trayce), Tuesday, 23 August 2005 09:01 (twenty years ago)
Sorry, but you are coming across like a complete cunt here. Jobs, relationships, suicide, etc. are real issues affecting the real lives of posters here on a daily basis. We talk about these things in order to stop feeling alone, isolated, etc. etc. - WTF does "racism" have to do with any of this?
Honestly - WHAT the fuck does whether Celebrity (read: TOTAL STRANGER) is gay or not have to do with you? To paraphrase a gay celebrity "The only time if I'm gay or not is any of your business if you are sitting in my lap."
If you want to talk about your own sexuality, and your own experiences, then go right ahead. But if you just want to participate in this endless vicarious gossipmongering, then fuck off to Popbitch or go read Heat Magazine. Get your own life instead of leeching off the vicarious thrills of celebrities.
― I Dream Of Sleep (kate), Tuesday, 23 August 2005 09:01 (twenty years ago)
why does it matter? It just feels like asking this, esp in light of libel, implies that labelling someone gay is an accusation or slur that is a terrible thing. The fact that is even possible is a bit sad, I think
Also OTM, as I was somewhat red-flagged by the celebrity issue. (As if talking about the lives of celebrities is somehow less "overdone" than talking about one's own life.)
Why *are* you so obsessed with finding out whether these people are gay? Is it because you'd like to sleep with them? (Not a slur at all, BTW, a genuine question.) In which case, off to the "crush of shame" thead with you.
― I Dream Of Sleep (kate), Tuesday, 23 August 2005 09:11 (twenty years ago)
Hence me saying I expected it to be asterisked within seconds. If it was illegal then I expected it to be altered.
why does it matter?
As I've already said. It doesn't matter. It matters about as much as some British soap star dressing up in women's clothing and going dogging. It's mildly interesting. If you don't find it interesting, don't read. But to come on here and add 2 and 2 and come up with 29 and scream HOMOPHOBE, well that's a little bit annoying.
...implies that labelling someone gay is an accusation or slur that is a terrible thing...
Agreed, it's sad. But as said above, what about Donovan? I don't hold a strong belief that being gay is an EVIL, I'm just curious about how a qu liek this would be treated in the courts. Clearly, it's a dead thread already as it looks unlikely people will respond with genuine answers after all this YOU FUCKING CUNT WHY ARE YOU PRYING INTO THE PRIVATE LIVES OF PUBLIC FIGURES.
Kate, and you're coming across like an unhinged handle-flyer-offer. Is ILX solely for the solving of personal problems? As much as you'd like it to be, no, it's not. It's also for qus like 'kettles s&d' and discussions of Big Brother. [the use of 'racism' was a response to Trayce's YOU HATE TEH GAYZ rant]
WHAT the fuck does whether Celebrity (read: TOTAL STRANGER) is gay or not have to do with you?
Are you the same person who said "Don't get me wrong, I love gossip" above? If you must know, I think celebrity TOTAL STRANGERS are fair game for just about anything. Anyway, find a 'the horrors of tabloid culture' thread and go there and screech along with Marcello.
But if you just want to participate in this endless vicarious gossipmongering, then fuck off to Popbitch or go read Heat Magazine.
But I already do!
Get your own life instead of leeching off the vicarious thrills of celebrities.
haha, the 'get a life' insult is my favourite of them all.
Why *are* you so obsessed with finding out whether these people are gay? Is it because you'd like to sleep with them?
hehe, this is where I go NO, NO WHY DO YOU THINK THAT NO GOD NO. Anyway, no. I am interested in finding out as I like to know the truth about my celebs, I want to know if the tabloids are lying to me about Darren Day being a womaniser, I want to know if a gay man became leader of the Tory party and how on earth he managed it, I want to know if the most powerful man in music is managing to pull off some enormous fib on the public with the help of Max Clifford.
Anyway, Kate this is clearly going to lead into some epic bitchfest where you get your daily tantrum out of the way and I completely fail to get answers to either of my qus. Thanks for that. I'm outta here before I get involved in your pointless shit.
― jgi, Tuesday, 23 August 2005 09:26 (twenty years ago)
― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Tuesday, 23 August 2005 09:27 (twenty years ago)
Wow.
Hello, pot, my name is kettle, you're looking awfully dark today!
― I Dream Of Sleep (kate), Tuesday, 23 August 2005 09:30 (twenty years ago)
If you really need to ask this, then abandon all hope etc etc.
BTW: I'd hardly call my original post a "YOU HATE TEH GAYZ rant". I was genuinely baffled as to why you wanted to know so badly, just as I am baffled by the very idea of gossip, womens mags, Big Brother and the like. I mean Women's Day etc photoshop 3/4 of their pics. Sure, its a bit of fun, and I read them for a laff, but if you're going to ask this question, people are also going to ask why you're interested. I dont think anyone's denying you asking or telling you its wrong - we're asking WHY! heh.
― Trayce (trayce), Tuesday, 23 August 2005 09:55 (twenty years ago)
― Kv_nol (Kv_nol), Tuesday, 23 August 2005 10:05 (twenty years ago)
― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Tuesday, 23 August 2005 10:07 (twenty years ago)
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― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Tuesday, 23 August 2005 10:11 (twenty years ago)
― Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Tuesday, 23 August 2005 10:12 (twenty years ago)
― Kv_nol (Kv_nol), Tuesday, 23 August 2005 10:15 (twenty years ago)
― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Tuesday, 23 August 2005 10:17 (twenty years ago)
― polyphonic (polyphonic), Tuesday, 23 August 2005 10:41 (twenty years ago)
― I AM PAUL MCARTNEY, Tuesday, 23 August 2005 11:05 (twenty years ago)
― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Tuesday, 23 August 2005 11:07 (twenty years ago)
― I AM PAUL MCARTNEY, Tuesday, 23 August 2005 11:10 (twenty years ago)
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― jgi, Wednesday, 24 August 2005 13:08 (twenty years ago)
― Kv_nol (Kv_nol), Wednesday, 24 August 2005 14:20 (twenty years ago)