POPTIMISM - September 16th 2005

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I know the other thread has only just dipped below the yardarm of the new answers page, but here's one for the NEXT Poptimism night - same place (Downstairs@Polar Bear), same prices, and we're doing one of our Club Popular special #1 hits nights. Expect gimmickry, to be revealed on this thread when we think of it. No James Blunt though! Get it in your diaries you lovely people.

― Tom (Groke), Wednesday, 24 August 2005 15:10 (twenty years ago)

I'm still going to try and make this, it's my last night in London!

― Adam In Real Life (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 24 August 2005 15:20 (twenty years ago)

hurrah for number ones! (reads: "hurrah for not having to carry a big bag of cds about")

― CarsmileSteve (CarsmileSteve), Wednesday, 24 August 2005 15:23 (twenty years ago)

And this time we are going on til 2pm, ruin fans.

(Gimmick a) we shall also be playing number ones from the Albania chart too.)

― Pete (Pete), Wednesday, 24 August 2005 15:25 (twenty years ago)

if james blunt is number one on september 16th, you HAVE to play it. sorry. them's the rules

― Britain's Jauntiest Shepherd (Alan), Wednesday, 24 August 2005 15:25 (twenty years ago)

Alan is actually right about the rules. :(

― Tom (Groke), Wednesday, 24 August 2005 15:27 (twenty years ago)

gimmick b) number 1 bingo cards - first to get (happy) house gets a quid off a bottle of blossom hill

― Britain's Jauntiest Shepherd (Alan), Wednesday, 24 August 2005 15:32 (twenty years ago)

may be skipping this for HDIF this month (i'm planning on doing alternate months of this friday clash of Clubs-I-Go-To) but then again there's 3 of those next month.. who knows!

― ken c (ken c), Wednesday, 24 August 2005 15:33 (twenty years ago)

2pm? Good god, you people have some stamina.

― Rock Hardy (Rock Hardy), Wednesday, 24 August 2005 15:33 (twenty years ago)

I still don't know who james Blunt is. In fact, it's likely that I may not recognize many of the British number ones of the last two years.

― Adam In Real Life (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 24 August 2005 15:33 (twenty years ago)

are you joking, Rock?

― Adam In Real Life (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 24 August 2005 15:34 (twenty years ago)

Second place gets two quid off (boom boom)

― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Wednesday, 24 August 2005 15:35 (twenty years ago)

Rock is reading carefully.

― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Wednesday, 24 August 2005 15:35 (twenty years ago)

adam is the legendary 25pints-in-the-4-hours man.

― ken c (ken c), Wednesday, 24 August 2005 15:36 (twenty years ago)

Ooh I like the bingo cards, sounds well orga.

― Tom (Groke), Wednesday, 24 August 2005 15:36 (twenty years ago)

orga? it's only bingo not herbal essences!

― ken c (ken c), Wednesday, 24 August 2005 15:37 (twenty years ago)

I'm going to hide around the corner and peer at you all through binoculars as you enter and leave, allowing me to put faces to the names when I read about the drunken tomfoolery the next day.

― Hello Sunshine (Hello Sunshine), Wednesday, 24 August 2005 16:23 (twenty years ago)

well, if you want to do that -there's a secret entrance that goes from elsewhere in lisle street that would lead you through a tunnel and then to a backroom of poptimism's venue!!

(this is the truth!!!! i was stuck inside there for half an hour one time!)

― ken c (ken c), Wednesday, 24 August 2005 16:49 (twenty years ago)

dance like this, people:

http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/6297/dinoskank6gs6tg.gif

― CharlieNo4 (Charlie), Wednesday, 24 August 2005 17:08 (twenty years ago)

Oh fickle Schnappi :(

― Tom (Groke), Thursday, 25 August 2005 06:15 (twenty years ago)

I think that "rules" can be waived in times of extreme crisis, i.e. even "I See The Moon" would be preferable to James C*nt ("I kiss the rose..." "No, not yet").

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Thursday, 25 August 2005 06:22 (twenty years ago)

We can barely keep track of whose bottle of blossom hill is whose. What makes you think that we can keep track of bingo cards?

― I Dream Of Sleep (kate), Thursday, 25 August 2005 06:48 (twenty years ago)

Tom, as this is a Club Popular night, will there be "No Charge" for bingo cards?

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Thursday, 25 August 2005 07:09 (twenty years ago)

I doubt very much that Jimmy Cunt will reascend to #1. Looking at the upcoming release schedules, your #1 single for this night could well be either "Fix You" by Coldplay" or "D.A.R.E." by Gorillaz

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Thursday, 25 August 2005 07:58 (twenty years ago)

or schnappi, it's been put back to 5 sept i think...

― CarsmileSteve (CarsmileSteve), Thursday, 25 August 2005 08:17 (twenty years ago)

C'est la vie.

― Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Thursday, 25 August 2005 09:04 (twenty years ago)

http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/6297/dinoskank6gs6tg.gif

B*Witched: The Difficult Second Album Tour

― Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Thursday, 25 August 2005 09:05 (twenty years ago)

B*Witched had FOUR count 'em number ones but I'd almost rather hear 'Jump Down' at this. Perhaps in October...

― Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Thursday, 25 August 2005 09:07 (twenty years ago)

http://www.maxim-magazine.co.uk/picture_viz_library/dir_0/viz_character_18.gif

― Dadaismus (Dada), Thursday, 25 August 2005 09:08 (twenty years ago)

two weeks pass...

hi dere, this is next week, hurrah!

― CarsmileSteve (CarsmileSteve), Friday, 9 September 2005 14:04 (twenty years ago)

I think our number one will be the Pussycat Dolls.!

― Pete (Pete), Friday, 9 September 2005 14:07 (twenty years ago)

Your DJing line up is myself, Pete, Carsmile and Tim 'Popkins'.

Requests ahoy.

― Tom (Groke), Friday, 9 September 2005 14:12 (twenty years ago)

I'll come if you play Star Trekin'.

― Teh HoBB (the pirate king), Friday, 9 September 2005 14:27 (twenty years ago)

PLAY THE JAZZ!

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Friday, 9 September 2005 14:28 (twenty years ago)

we are whores and will play almost anything.

― CarsmileSteve (CarsmileSteve), Friday, 9 September 2005 14:35 (twenty years ago)

You have to play the Tori Alamaze version of 'Don't Cha', not the heinous Pussycat Dolls one!

― The Lex (The Lex), Friday, 9 September 2005 14:45 (twenty years ago)

Do you have "99 Dead Baboons"?

― Markelby (Mark C), Friday, 9 September 2005 14:48 (twenty years ago)

the model, stand and deliver, ghost town, tainted love, jack your body, beetlebum, theme from s-express, you really got me, i feel love

― Teh HoBB (the pirate king), Friday, 9 September 2005 14:51 (twenty years ago)

GOODIES

― The Lex (The Lex), Friday, 9 September 2005 14:51 (twenty years ago)

play all the folk number ones

― Ed (dali), Friday, 9 September 2005 15:28 (twenty years ago)

metal number ones

― ken c (ken c), Friday, 9 September 2005 15:34 (twenty years ago)

Jerry Keller- Here Comes Summer!

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Friday, 9 September 2005 16:07 (twenty years ago)

not exactly topical for september though is it ;)

ferever autumn didn't get to number one though...

― CarsmileSteve (CarsmileSteve), Saturday, 10 September 2005 10:36 (twenty years ago)

Actually it's very suitable, it's got a real wistful end-of-Summer vibe, I will definitely play it.

― Tom (Groke), Saturday, 10 September 2005 10:43 (twenty years ago)

bugger, i'll miss this due to tune-spinning duties at hedonistic. matt dc may well have the same issue if he's playing at seal.

mind you, if you lot go on til 2am, maybe i can swing by later...

― CharlieNo4 (Charlie), Saturday, 10 September 2005 10:52 (twenty years ago)

Some "older" stuff that we "oldies" might like to hear at some stage in the proceedings:

Mouldy Old Dough, Get Down, Tower Of Strength, Begin The Beguine, Telstar, Doctorin' The Tardis, 3AM Eternal, Your Woman, Because We Want To, Have I The Right, Lovesick Blues, Rubber Bullets, Son Of My Father, Always Yours.

I am aware that some of these may fall into the "experimental" slot, i.e. when outside punters come in at 8:15 and hear Kate Bush's "The Dreaming"...

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Monday, 12 September 2005 05:51 (twenty years ago)

In order:

Yes, played it last time but maybe, maybe, !!!, yes, not while the TV series isn't on, every time, yes, see Timelords, YES, good one, not on my watch, yes, I've forgotten what this even IS!

― Tom (Groke), Monday, 12 September 2005 08:13 (twenty years ago)

haha ASHES TO ASHES!!

― Tom (Groke), Monday, 12 September 2005 08:15 (twenty years ago)

Er, yes, very good, what a shame Dinah Washington's "September In The Rain" didn't get to the top...

"Always Yours"? The third and last number one for the double G (if you don't count "Doctorin' The Tardis").

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Monday, 12 September 2005 08:19 (twenty years ago)

The Only Way Is Up

― Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Monday, 12 September 2005 08:37 (twenty years ago)

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I think too much time spent in Oxford in the late nineties may have turned me a little militant wrt ironists and 'cheese'.

― RickyT (RickyT), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 11:42 (twenty years ago)

Yeah I don't think there'd be MUCH of a difference. I mean if you come to Poptimism and you don't like pop music AT ALL then sure you're going to deserve your folded-arms misery, it's not like we don't make it clear what we're about.

― Tom (Groke), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 11:43 (twenty years ago)

My dancing is often ironic. My enjoyment never is.

― The Brocade Fire (kate), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 11:43 (twenty years ago)

GOD, FIVE YEARS ON ILX HAS CHANGED ME BEYOND ALL RECOGNITION!!!

― The Brocade Fire (kate), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 11:43 (twenty years ago)

I think you should replace 'Guilt free' with 'Plenty Rude'.

I don't know what it means, but I think it sounds like the sort of slogan that would get me to go to a club.

― suckling pig at a rave (alix), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 11:44 (twenty years ago)

I think my reaction to a lot of pop music is awe and delight at its audacity or brazenness, this can be mistaken for irony, particularly when said brazenness involves a Scandinavian guy rapping.

― Tom (Groke), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 11:45 (twenty years ago)

I reckon Alang should put that picture of himself on the flyer. Or maybe on an officially Poptimal website that people cd link to, like.

― RickyT (RickyT), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 11:46 (twenty years ago)

Or indeed, a bloke called Sheffield Dave singing a Billy Idol song.

― RickyT (RickyT), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 11:47 (twenty years ago)

Er, I meant people cd mistake delight at Sheff. Dave. for irony, not that we should put a picture of Alan on aforementioned Scooterist.

― RickyT (RickyT), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 11:48 (twenty years ago)

Let me Photoshop the face of The Lex over Alan's first though (xpost).

― Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 11:48 (twenty years ago)

I wish there were a regular weekly Poptimism radio show. 'Tis pity that Resonance don't like tunes.

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 11:49 (twenty years ago)

Plus also at a #1s night especially there is a kind of shock-value in some of the picks, an "Oh my god we can't play THAT" which again may not be totally distinguishable from irony. It's not playing stuff you think is bad, though, which would be wretched (though I have done it at paid gigs, with eg The La's "There She Goes", and it has its own whorish pleasure I suppose). It's playing something to find out if it's good or not.

I think too much about this stuff.

― Tom (Groke), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 11:49 (twenty years ago)

Maybe "irony" was the wrong word... It's not that I don't like the music, just that I'd be too, too... embarassed? Moody? Shy? to enjoy it. I blame years of conditioning at university, where you could either dance to 'cool' stuff somewhere tiny with sticky black goo on the floor or go to a Ben Sherman infested hell-hole and dance to pop music in your Rockports while preparing to glass anyone who looked at your bird.

The only exception to this rule was really cool people who liked to show how cool they were by dancing to cheesey pop in an 'ironic' manner (it was the late '90s, after all). And I have never been, and never will be, cool in any way.

I dunno. I can't really put into words what it is I'm trying to say, so I'll just slope off into the corner and mumble to myself for a bit.

― Hello Sunshine (Hello Sunshine), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 11:49 (twenty years ago)

Not to put words in anyone's mouth, but I rather suspect that Poptimism is a club for people who have rather given up *caring* about what is cool or isne't.

― The Brocade Fire (kate), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 11:52 (twenty years ago)

do you mean the late "'9'0's" in ironic quotes :-)

no i wouldn't put "irony free" on the flyers - i was being in a mood whereby i was inclined to state the opposite of what i actually meant.

― Britain's Obtusest Shepherd (Alan), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 11:54 (twenty years ago)

Look, HS, I'm officially the least cool person on this planet, and if I can come to these nights, enjoy myself and not give a damn about "embarrassment" (unless it's the one by Madness ahem) after a year of stalling and making excuses, then so can you!

(xpost x 2, obv)

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 11:55 (twenty years ago)

i think the only genuine poptimism embarassment comes from over-playing a track.

nice to hear toxic again though :-)

― Britain's Obtusest Shepherd (Alan), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 11:57 (twenty years ago)

Well, only if that track were "Turtle Power" (which thankfully we did NOT hear on Friday)!

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 11:57 (twenty years ago)

On the next flyer put INDIE DISCO at the top with This Is Not An in tiny letters sideways down the length of the first I.

― Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 11:57 (twenty years ago)

What are these I find in my mouth? Words? Gadzooks! Who could have put them there....?

No, no no, I'm giving up. I like the music, I like the venue, but for reasons I don't fully understand I feel like I'd feel like a spare prick should I ever turn up. So for now I'll continue to lurk in the shadows. That was me selling the Big Issue, you see. Mwahaha (and so on).

― Hello Sunshine (Hello Sunshine), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 11:58 (twenty years ago)

Pete stopping reaching for Toxic when the beer takes hold will be a ravens-leaving-the-tower moment.

I am wary of stressing this uncool thing. I think some of the regulars are pretty cool, though perhaps not when they're actually at Poptimism.

― Tom (Groke), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 11:59 (twenty years ago)

It must be emphasised that this club is not run by the Cool Police. You will not be looked up and down at the point of entry for evidence of sufficiently hip clothing/haircut, and the atmosphere inside is friendly and welcoming; not like most London clubs where you feel you have to produce a CV and current bank statement in order to be allowed to breathe.

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 12:01 (twenty years ago)

Errr... when did I say "uncool"? I said "given up caring about cool" which makes someone neither cool nor uncool.

But whatever. It's not like I'm involved with it, or even after last week, likely to go again either.

― The Brocade Fire (kate), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 12:02 (twenty years ago)

You might get laughed at if you order Leffe by the bottle.

― Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 12:03 (twenty years ago)

And there's no difference at all between their two quid.

Surely you mean "between they're two two quid's"?

'90s is grammatically correct: as it is a contraction of 1990s, a leading apostrophe is appropriate. I can't work out how a following spostrophe can be justified, Truss or no Truss (even i didn't agree with everything she said).

aaanyway. no irony! yes pop! woot!

― CharlieNo4 (Charlie), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 12:07 (twenty years ago)

POPTIMISM - THE CLUB WHERE IRONY IS A METAL LIKE GOLDY AND SILVERY

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 12:09 (twenty years ago)

Come to think of it, Irony Maiden got taken off pretty sharpish didn't they?

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 12:09 (twenty years ago)

there are more uses for apostrophes than possesives and elision

― Britain's Obtusest Shepherd (Alan), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 12:12 (twenty years ago)

You can hang your coat on them, for one thing.

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 12:13 (twenty years ago)

Iron Maiden was requested by 2 or 3 people, Tim and I thought, well we'll give it a shot, it cleared the dancefloor so off it went, much to the sorrow of its few fans. It's far from a bad record to play but certainly not a last half hour one. Sorry Maidenites.

― Tom (Groke), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 12:17 (twenty years ago)

On the next flyer put INDIE DISCO at the top with This Is Not An in tiny letters sideways down the length of the first I.

BEST. IDEA. EVER.

― CarsmileSteve (CarsmileSteve), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 12:26 (twenty years ago)

WORST. IDEA. EVER. for you'll get lots of indie types coming in who'll moan about the lack of Belle and Sebastian. No one ever reads small print on a club flyer.

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 12:27 (twenty years ago)

Perhaps I could inform them at the door, if they're looking a little indie - "Excuse me - you do know this isn't an indie disco, don't you?". After they'd paid, obviously.

― suckling pig at a rave (alix), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 12:36 (twenty years ago)

you should just mime the 'n't' part of the sentence too. if they can't lip-read it's their own fault.

― Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 12:38 (twenty years ago)

Doesn't wanting to not be an indie disco inevitably give away the fact that poptimism is an indie disco?

― alext (alext), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 12:46 (twenty years ago)

Poptimism is not an indie disco.

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 12:48 (twenty years ago)

Well if I ever got sick of the intro to Toxic (or someone introduced a boycott) I'd stop playing it.

Even the Face Of Boe loves it.

Poptimism is so indie it denioes its indieness. Clearly.

― Pete (Pete), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 12:49 (twenty years ago)

"the Face Of Boe"????

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 12:52 (twenty years ago)

or The Face Of Jungle as I like to call him.

― Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 12:53 (twenty years ago)

Poptimism is an indie disco, there's surely no debating that. WE HAVE A BIG SIGN SAYING INDIE FOR GOODNESS SAKES.

― Tom (Groke), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 12:54 (twenty years ago)

i have a picture here somewhere...

― Britain's Obtusest Shepherd (Alan), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 12:56 (twenty years ago)

taking sides:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v229/rob_brennan/ilx/Pop2.jpg

http://www.freakytrigger.co.uk/pictures/flyers/dj_alan.jpg

(my ego knows too many bounds)

― Britain's Obtusest Shepherd (Alan), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 12:59 (twenty years ago)

The only solution to people misunderstanding what Poptimism is, is MORE PICTURES.

― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 13:00 (twenty years ago)

I danced to one song - Ini Kamoze - and it was not ironic.

Hahahaha, the internet!

― Cristal Waters (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 13:51 (twenty years ago)

Has anyone seen my glass's?

― Joe 9T's, Tuesday, 20 September 2005 15:28 (twenty years ago)

Tom E, I'm not sure I know what you are saying re. 'There She Goes'. I know that track doesn't need any new defenders to stick up for it, but I am surprised if you think it's bad. I can't see any reason why you would think it's not good.

― the bellefox, Tuesday, 20 September 2005 16:30 (twenty years ago)

aw, i forgot about "the she goes"

― ken c (ken c), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 17:18 (twenty years ago)

Your first clue.

― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 17:38 (twenty years ago)

Oh god I was a real cock on that thread, I hate it being revived.

― Tom (Groke), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 17:53 (twenty years ago)

Sorry! It just seemed the place to start.

― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 19:13 (twenty years ago)

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