remember when ILX was good? [note: we seem to be discussing the merits of making ILE registered-users only on this thead now --mod]

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me neither

lolinternets, Thursday, 25 August 2005 00:03 (twenty years ago)

I've always thought it was more chaotic neutral.

dan m (OutDatWay), Thursday, 25 August 2005 00:11 (twenty years ago)

Jesus, one post in and already and AD&D allusion.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 25 August 2005 00:14 (twenty years ago)

some great stuff on ILM

gabbneb (gabbneb), Thursday, 25 August 2005 00:51 (twenty years ago)

yes some great stuff!

cutty (mcutt), Thursday, 25 August 2005 00:54 (twenty years ago)

Nice to see that there's still some Denny Vertigo fans out there.

Leon C. (Ex Leon), Thursday, 25 August 2005 00:55 (twenty years ago)

uh "still"??

s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 25 August 2005 00:56 (twenty years ago)

What's good on ILM?

Rockist_Scientist (RSLaRue), Thursday, 25 August 2005 00:57 (twenty years ago)

sigh

cutty (mcutt), Thursday, 25 August 2005 00:57 (twenty years ago)

It's ok...you're...you're doing good

M. V. (M.V.), Thursday, 25 August 2005 01:11 (twenty years ago)

I saw a bear with shaved pubes!

Adventure Dan, Thursday, 25 August 2005 01:12 (twenty years ago)

Dan: You owe us a link.
Or perhaps you owe us not to link.

Forksclovetofu (Forksclovetofu), Thursday, 25 August 2005 05:36 (twenty years ago)

Nag nag nag. If you don't like it, do something about it. (Like post more or move away.) Personally I love it here. Best board on the internet.

nathalie starts to cry each time we meet (stevie nixed), Thursday, 25 August 2005 05:49 (twenty years ago)

I'm extraordinarily fond of this place too.

C J (C J), Thursday, 25 August 2005 07:27 (twenty years ago)

Sometimes I feel like ILX is a bit like my surrogate family. Some people (and some times) I love, and couldn't live without, some people (and some times) I HATE HATE HATE and can wind me up in a way that few people outside of my immediate family can actually do. But really when it comes down to it, I'm so glad that ILX is there.

I Dream Of Sleep (kate), Thursday, 25 August 2005 07:30 (twenty years ago)

o fuck was it yesterday? or earlier today? i can't be expected to be here all the time!

mullygrubbr (bulbs), Thursday, 25 August 2005 07:31 (twenty years ago)

some people (and some times) I HATE HATE HATE

I knew it! Kate hates me! ;-))))

nathalie starts to cry each time we meet (stevie nixed), Thursday, 25 August 2005 07:48 (twenty years ago)

::blows bit wet kiss at Nath and sails to meet her in my boat::

I Dream Of Sleep (kate), Thursday, 25 August 2005 07:48 (twenty years ago)

Not always a place for your specialist interests, but for idle chat, the best board on the internet for sure.

moley, Thursday, 25 August 2005 07:49 (twenty years ago)

It used to be good. Not any more. Not when you open yourself up and people just kick you in return. ILx can go to hell.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Thursday, 25 August 2005 07:54 (twenty years ago)

o col there is a moustache thread somewhere

mullygrubbr (bulbs), Thursday, 25 August 2005 07:55 (twenty years ago)

Not when you open yourself up and people just kick you in return.

but is there anywhere on the internet that doesn't do this?

Ste (Fuzzy), Thursday, 25 August 2005 07:56 (twenty years ago)

but we learned it from you dad

oops (Oops), Thursday, 25 August 2005 07:58 (twenty years ago)

Ste OTM I'm afriad (I just wrote something similar but didnt post it, I couldnt word it well). This is a giant public arena, and saying *anything* here is akin to announcing it over the tannoy at a train station, so to then get upset if some random dickwad passes by and points and laughs is not worth the energy. Someone always will. ILX is not only not immune to this, it is far from crap because it has so much less antagonism than any other forum Ive seen online. Even with the shit we *do* have here.

Trayce (trayce), Thursday, 25 August 2005 08:01 (twenty years ago)

Where ILM has been bad it's been dreadful of late. Defend the indefensible: Dancing Queen??????

Britain's Jauntiest Shepherd (Alan), Thursday, 25 August 2005 08:02 (twenty years ago)

I do actually contribute to other message boards where people don't seem to feel the need to act like cunts towards each other. And this is without any overt/hands-on moderation. Which makes me wonder what the problem is with ILx. Does it turn people into gibbering trolling idiots? The worst part of it is not that it's hurtful or annoying or depressing; it's a cycle of behaviour which just repeats itself, sometimes word for word, over and over again.

Or perhaps it's just to do with a certain section of the ILx populace who in recent months seem to have gone out of their way to make these boards as unpleasant as possible, because they know they can get away with it without being dealt with?

Who knows? But until such time as the problem has been dealt with - decisively and finally - there doesn't seem to be any point in my continuing to post here. In future when I've got anything to say I'll put it on the blog, 'cos at least there I have control over responses.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Thursday, 25 August 2005 08:03 (twenty years ago)

the first half of that kaiser cheese thread

Britain's Jauntiest Shepherd (Alan), Thursday, 25 August 2005 08:03 (twenty years ago)

"Assail the Unassailable: Sgt. Pepper's (25 new answers)".... duhhhhhhhhhhhh (xpost)

Dadaismus (Dada), Thursday, 25 August 2005 08:04 (twenty years ago)

I'd wager those who are trolling on purpose do so because they know they push buttons and get reactions, actually.

(not that anyone *should* have to put up with rude shit, of course!)

Trayce (trayce), Thursday, 25 August 2005 08:04 (twenty years ago)

That should be xxxxpost of course! (xpost)

Dadaismus (Dada), Thursday, 25 August 2005 08:05 (twenty years ago)

No they shouldn't, and I for one am not going to continue doing so. The other idea I'm currently looking at is to set up my own message board, which will be invitation-only and password-only. This might mean that I end up with about half a dozen people talking to each other but I think it's a sacrifice worth making if it means getting rid of the trolling problem.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Thursday, 25 August 2005 08:06 (twenty years ago)

I think the problem w/ilx is that unless it gets changed by a moderator, every page gets listed on Google.

Mail me if you start yr list, and I'm not too repellent to be on it plz Marcello.

Pashmina (Pashmina), Thursday, 25 August 2005 08:13 (twenty years ago)

Plus, I still like ILX, although there's a lot more chaff than there used to be for sure.

Pashmina (Pashmina), Thursday, 25 August 2005 08:13 (twenty years ago)

It were all fjords round here back then.

Janne Karlsson, Thursday, 25 August 2005 08:14 (twenty years ago)

The trolling problem: it only seems to be a "problem" if a person is expressing an unpopular opinion or view relative to the rest of the people on this board. Only *then* is a person a "troll" and only then is it a problem. It is generally the *rest* of the board, however, who respond with great hostility. ILX is just full of a bunch of rabid assholes, unfortunately. And most of them don't feel compelled to log out and "troll." They are just naturally trolls.

For reference, search every religious, political, health, trend/fad thread ever and most of ILM. Not to mention Kabballah, which has spawned so many great trolling posts it deserves a categorization of it's own apart from "religious" or "trend/fad!"

ILX Troll, Thursday, 25 August 2005 08:20 (twenty years ago)

ILX is just full of a bunch of rabid assholes

Can't say as I've noticed

Dadaismus (Dada), Thursday, 25 August 2005 08:22 (twenty years ago)

Can't say as I've noticed

Gabba gabba, one of us?

Imagine That, Thursday, 25 August 2005 08:24 (twenty years ago)

I have seen threads on religious, health and spiritual topics on here that have actually gone really well and not devolved into shitfights at all.

Trayce (trayce), Thursday, 25 August 2005 08:25 (twenty years ago)

Gabba gabba, one of us?

I give up, you're too clever for me

Dadaismus (Dada), Thursday, 25 August 2005 08:26 (twenty years ago)

ILX has been a bit slow lately, (summertime, holidays, etc.) but I can't say it's been *bad*.

Same as always, really. If you want a "good" ILX, start the threads yourself that you would want to read.

I started to type out more, but really I'd just be repeating the same things I've been saying for 5 years. I'm very busy today anyway so I must be good.

I Dream Of Sleep (kate), Thursday, 25 August 2005 08:27 (twenty years ago)

I suppose it ultimately comes down to the question of: do the moderators of ILx want a message board that is comfortable for the majority of posters who, despite their various quirks, are usually reasonable, or for the minority of posters who seem to want to do nothing other than destroy the boards altogether?

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Thursday, 25 August 2005 08:28 (twenty years ago)

Why don't you go to Dissensus?

I don't think ilx has been any worse for trolling than anytime in the last couple of years.

Chewshabadoo (Chewshabadoo), Thursday, 25 August 2005 08:29 (twenty years ago)

I hardly think the moderators are willfully allowing people to "destroy" the board or let it be overrun with nobs. In fact they've been flat out like lizards fending off the terrible spam problem recently, which IMNSHO is a way more pressing and irritating issue than a couple of goits who know damn well who will bite when they bait.

Trayce (trayce), Thursday, 25 August 2005 08:31 (twenty years ago)

Getting rid of said "couple of goits" would take no more than a couple of minutes and a minimum of guts, so I'm sorry but I don't buy it.

Funnily enough I was able to post similar threads on this day in previous years without getting trolled, so in my view it's a worsening problem. I mean "[email protected]"? I'm sorry, maybe I have a sense of humour defect, but can someone tell me what's funny about that? Do people think this day is not painful enough without having pathetic little sociopaths ridiculing it?

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Thursday, 25 August 2005 08:35 (twenty years ago)

As I said on the mod request board, about a year ago there was a 'show of hands' thread for making ILX registration-only. The 'Nay's had it by majority of like 70%. So don't blame the mods, blame the volkisch!

Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Thursday, 25 August 2005 08:45 (twenty years ago)

Well fine then, you take another vote in six months when there's no one left here but Noize Board people. If that's the sort of message board you want.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Thursday, 25 August 2005 08:57 (twenty years ago)

i am quite happy to make another board called ILE 2 that is registered only, but getting people to post there would be the trick

Britain's Jauntiest Shepherd (Alan), Thursday, 25 August 2005 09:14 (twenty years ago)

you take another vote in six months when there's no one left here but Noize Board people. If that's the sort of message board you want.

But if 70% or so of people said they preferred ILE to be open to anyone this obviously means they LOVE the anon trolls and spammers, or at least prefer them to the alternative - meaning they're not going to leave this board for that reason.

Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Thursday, 25 August 2005 09:20 (twenty years ago)

For what it's worth, I was one of the nays previously, and it's not just because of this one today I've changed.

Who knows, maybe it's like Devolution for Geordielan, keep referending until a yes happens...

mark grout (mark grout), Thursday, 25 August 2005 09:20 (twenty years ago)

Alright well you have "fun" with your boards. If brutal personal attacks on people are what you want, then you're welcome to them. Just leave me out of it.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Thursday, 25 August 2005 09:21 (twenty years ago)

I do actually contribute to other message boards where people don't seem to feel the need to act like cunts towards each other. And this is without any overt/hands-on moderation. Which makes me wonder what the problem is with ILx. Does it turn people into gibbering trolling idiots? The worst part of it is not that it's hurtful or annoying or depressing; it's a cycle of behaviour which just repeats itself, sometimes word for word, over and over again. -- Marcello Carlin.

To serve no particular point: Marcello's the only person who (believing himself to be logged out) has shit on me in the past few months. And when I wasn't irritated ('cus I knew he was in the midst of some weird flip-out thing) he seemed to want to top himself and correct my grammar. So way to go with the hypocrisy, Donny Smith!

Remy (x Jeremy), Saturday, 27 August 2005 17:30 (twenty years ago)

What was that about pot, kettle, black?

Orbit (Orbit), Saturday, 27 August 2005 22:01 (twenty years ago)

http://www.fantasiescometrue.com/OTHER/OTHERIMAGES/equmirdsfig2.jpg

amon (eman), Saturday, 27 August 2005 22:41 (twenty years ago)

Why do people post pictures on here after someone says something? I don't get it. What does that picture mean? Sorry, I'm new here.

Naca (Naca), Saturday, 27 August 2005 22:44 (twenty years ago)

that picture was quite witty.

xpost well yes perhaps if someone is actually going to implement this new fancy improvement i suggested then some effort should also go into making the queries work properly so that it doesn't poxy fule innit. i mean duh.

ken c (ken c), Saturday, 27 August 2005 23:06 (twenty years ago)

How was it witty? I really don't get it!

Naca (Naca), Saturday, 27 August 2005 23:08 (twenty years ago)

you need a sense of irony to understand

ken c (ken c), Saturday, 27 August 2005 23:17 (twenty years ago)

"Why do people post pictures on here after someone says something? I don't get it. What does that picture mean? Sorry, I'm new here."

It can mean anything at all, and sometimes the opposite of anything at all.

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Saturday, 27 August 2005 23:17 (twenty years ago)

Would it be so hard to explain it?

Naca (Naca), Saturday, 27 August 2005 23:19 (twenty years ago)

OK:

Most of the time a picture is a visual illustration of or counterpoint to what a previous poster is saying or what the thread overall seems to be about. Sometimes it's trying to accuse a certain poster of posters of being (like) something.

I think the picture of the evil stepmother falls into the last group.

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Saturday, 27 August 2005 23:23 (twenty years ago)

(x-post)

http://www.rocktoons.com/strokes/strokes.jpg

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Saturday, 27 August 2005 23:23 (twenty years ago)

I don't know if I like this board.

Naca (Naca), Saturday, 27 August 2005 23:24 (twenty years ago)

Most of the people who've been posting here for five years don't know, either. WELCOME!

Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Saturday, 27 August 2005 23:25 (twenty years ago)

strange, you've been here a long time (xpost)

gabbneb (gabbneb), Saturday, 27 August 2005 23:26 (twenty years ago)

huh?

Naca (Naca), Saturday, 27 August 2005 23:26 (twenty years ago)

Naca, do you live in Hawaii?

Rock Hardy (Rock Hardy), Saturday, 27 August 2005 23:28 (twenty years ago)

No.

Naca (Naca), Saturday, 27 August 2005 23:29 (twenty years ago)

i would have posted a pic of an irony vortex if i could have found it

amon (eman), Sunday, 28 August 2005 00:07 (twenty years ago)

http://www.starterupsteve.com/funny/pak9.jpg

-`, Sunday, 28 August 2005 03:36 (twenty years ago)

I really like how everyone says we'll take a vote AFTER the (YEAH I KNOW THE TEMPORARY) change has been made. WHY NOT NOW?

Especially considering this has been voted down in the past!

Ken, this is just abandoning the concept of separate boards - which I approve of, but you are one of the people who has taken things off to separate boards, and it's meant that, for instance, I no longer read or talk about wrestling on ILX at all. Also, none of this has anything to do with any of the problems under discussion, but you may know that and just be bringing it up anyway.

This indeed has nothing to do with the discussion, but I'd like to say that I agree with Martin on this 100%. The more boards that are created, the more topics I never read about. Ken's idea of a "Your New Answers" page is a brilliant one, but I imagine it'd be pretty hard to do. It would certainly provide people like me with an incentive to register, though....

The Yellow Kid, Sunday, 28 August 2005 04:07 (twenty years ago)

xpost - rofl

amon (eman), Sunday, 28 August 2005 04:10 (twenty years ago)

"irony vortex" ;)

-- -', Sunday, 28 August 2005 04:13 (twenty years ago)

you stole my identity!

--, Sunday, 28 August 2005 04:58 (twenty years ago)

NO, I have an apostrophe at the end.

-- -', Sunday, 28 August 2005 05:05 (twenty years ago)

So everyone can use cryptic typographical thingamajigs for their usernames instead. No one will know who anyone else is!

___ -- ____ " (pr00de), Sunday, 28 August 2005 05:12 (twenty years ago)

i can still see your login name pr00de

amon (eman), Sunday, 28 August 2005 05:45 (twenty years ago)

Curses! Foiled again!

pr00de descending a staircase (pr00de), Sunday, 28 August 2005 05:49 (twenty years ago)

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amon (eman), Sunday, 28 August 2005 05:54 (twenty years ago)

Guys, I really need to know how to get blood off of a clown suit, LIKE RIGHT NOW.

Sorry for being logged out, but I'm very sensitive right now.

Thank goodness for anonymity!

Logged_Out. (Pleasant Plains ///), Sunday, 28 August 2005 06:24 (twenty years ago)

IP address....

AMON R U ADMINS?

the food has a top snake of 1 (ex machina), Sunday, 28 August 2005 06:30 (twenty years ago)

meanwhile, we should go play texas holdem.

the food has a top snake of 1 (ex machina), Sunday, 28 August 2005 06:31 (twenty years ago)

i cannot see IP even though the box is checked :o(((

Poker Spam (eman), Sunday, 28 August 2005 06:35 (twenty years ago)

misleading!

the food has a top snake of 1 (ex machina), Sunday, 28 August 2005 06:43 (twenty years ago)

POWER TO THE PEEPHOLES

vahid (vahid), Sunday, 28 August 2005 07:09 (twenty years ago)

clever, no?

vahid (vahid), Sunday, 28 August 2005 07:09 (twenty years ago)

This thread is classic. Hilarious!

Do you not agree, you fat junkie nutjob? (Orbit), Sunday, 28 August 2005 23:26 (twenty years ago)

This indeed has nothing to do with the discussion, but I'd like to say that I agree with Martin on this 100%. The more boards that are created, the more topics I never read about.

People who are too lazy to click on the little links on the top of the screen to check out other boards: C/D?

Casuistry (Chris P), Monday, 29 August 2005 00:12 (twenty years ago)

Thanks for the assumption Chris, but it isn't about laziness when it comes to the I Love WWE board, which was my example.
1. It only attracts those hugely interested in the subject.
2. People there tend to talk in insider jargon, which I sometimes struggle to understand.
3. They are constantly giving away the outcome of every plotline, every twist.
All these things make me stay away now, even when I can muster the energy to click on a link.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Monday, 29 August 2005 10:22 (twenty years ago)

i cannot see IP even though the box is checked :o(((

I thought only mods could see this? Who cares anyway? I realize you could compare'em but it's of little relevance.

The only thing I miss is an edit function. I would very much like to be able to edit my posts. But that's probably a poxy fule attraction, no?

nathalie's pocket revolution (stevie nixed), Monday, 29 August 2005 10:46 (twenty years ago)

The problem with people being able to edit their posts is that if you're a pedantic bastard who likes to pick up on other people's typos (like me) then when they correct their original post your post becomes gibberish. And sad(der).

Teh HoBB (the pirate king), Monday, 29 August 2005 10:56 (twenty years ago)

as a fellow pedantic bastard, i find it does me good to realise just hwo mny typos evNe i cNa mayik.

grimly fiendish (grimlord), Monday, 29 August 2005 11:29 (twenty years ago)

nobody can see ips except for mods, and even then we only see them when we edit/delete a post, they're not displayed alongside the other information.

teeny (teeny), Monday, 29 August 2005 11:37 (twenty years ago)

Yea, that was changed.

the food has a top snake of 1 (ex machina), Monday, 29 August 2005 12:49 (twenty years ago)

ten years pass...

6,000 registered users

pplains, Monday, 1 February 2016 14:57 (ten years ago)

56 logged in users active in the past five minutes

Chortles And Guffaws (Old Lunch), Monday, 1 February 2016 15:03 (ten years ago)

i've always wondered how many 'regulars' there are i.e. people who post at least once a week or so. my working estimate has been in the 300-400 range but that could be way off in either direction for all i know

ciderpress, Monday, 1 February 2016 15:14 (ten years ago)

God, I'd have put it as less. Far less. Like 5 people.

canoon fooder (dog latin), Monday, 1 February 2016 15:27 (ten years ago)

Something like fifteen of the regulars are just my socks.

Chortles And Guffaws (Old Lunch), Monday, 1 February 2016 15:28 (ten years ago)

Of which you're one? (xp)

The Robustness of Captchas (Tom D.), Monday, 1 February 2016 15:29 (ten years ago)

And I've usually got my foot in my mouth.

Evan, Monday, 1 February 2016 15:30 (ten years ago)


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