Instant Coffee C/D, S/D

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i don't have a coffee maker so C

amon (eman), Thursday, 25 August 2005 12:05 (fourteen years ago) link

The problem with instant coffee is that, if there is instant coffee only, there typically is only powdered creamer. Which is a SOLID dud. So, in that instance, Dud. But, OTOH, if there is actual dairy liquid there, and you can make the instant hot enough, its not terrible. But I'm a grad student, so I'll drink anything with caffiene. I think I actually prefered Taster's Choice, but have had many a mugh of Sanka, which isn't terrible.

In terms of a cheap way to enjoy real coffee, get a French Press. Makes awesome coffee, and in small enough batches that you don't waste half of a pot every time.

Big Loud Mountain Ape (Big Loud Mountain Ape), Thursday, 25 August 2005 12:12 (fourteen years ago) link

i can't drink instant coffee. it tastes like water with coffee powder in it.

and I can walk out into the world, singing with my people (Jody Beth Rosen), Thursday, 25 August 2005 12:14 (fourteen years ago) link


Drinking Any Coffee, Instant Or Otherwise, With The Powdered Creamer And Burning Your Mouth Because You Forgot That, Unlike Regular Creamer, The Powdered Sort Has No Cooling Effect- Another Dud.

k/l (Ken L), Thursday, 25 August 2005 12:16 (fourteen years ago) link

Absolutely. Get that filthy muck away from me.

Also, these things are flipping great for a good quick cup of something decent.

NickB (NickB), Thursday, 25 August 2005 12:17 (fourteen years ago) link

get one moka machine

Baaderonixx on a long black leash (Fabfunk), Thursday, 25 August 2005 12:23 (fourteen years ago) link

I would really like to know what goes on inside the giant Kenko machine, though. I'm addicted to it, but can't tell what it is!

I Dream Of Sleep (kate), Thursday, 25 August 2005 12:27 (fourteen years ago) link

Kenco Really Rich (the blue one) is the best instant coffee, if you ask me. However, coffee from an actual machine is always much better.

Which reminds me, I forgot to clean the coffee machine that I used three days ago. That will be pleasant.

tissp! (the impossible shortest specia), Thursday, 25 August 2005 12:33 (fourteen years ago) link

Sanka is decaffeinated, isn't it? My grandma used "sanka" as a synonym for "decaf".

i like nescafe for making coffee ice cream, and also iced coffee, so for those uses i say classic.

The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 25 August 2005 13:21 (fourteen years ago) link

Maybe it was nescafe. I can't believe all of those late, late nights were fueled by a decaf.

Big Loud Mountain Ape (Big Loud Mountain Ape), Thursday, 25 August 2005 13:59 (fourteen years ago) link

There's no excuse for drinking instant. A drip coffee maker costs like $15.

Hurting (Hurting), Thursday, 25 August 2005 14:05 (fourteen years ago) link

Instant coffee makes my brain hurt. An espresso machine costs like £15.

jeffrey (johnson), Thursday, 25 August 2005 14:09 (fourteen years ago) link

I don't like/need coffee enough to drink instant.

Archel (Archel), Thursday, 25 August 2005 14:11 (fourteen years ago) link

Isn't instant coffee more expensive per cup than drip? The coffee maker will pay for itself in cheaper consumables.

The name Sanka came from "SANS CAffeine."

Rock Hardy (Rock Hardy), Thursday, 25 August 2005 14:13 (fourteen years ago) link

I live on caffeine but when espresso or filter is unavailable i'd much rather turn to pro plus PEP pills than instant coffee.

jeffrey (johnson), Thursday, 25 August 2005 14:14 (fourteen years ago) link

Instant coffee makes my brain hurt. An espresso machine costs like £15.

-- jeffrey (jeffreyzo...), August 25th, 2005.

I thought a decent espresso machine cost hundreds of dollars/pounds ...

Hurting (Hurting), Thursday, 25 August 2005 14:17 (fourteen years ago) link

The klix machines we have at work are the pits!

willdabeast, Thursday, 25 August 2005 14:20 (fourteen years ago) link

Instant is convenient when you're away from civilization. Probably keeps better than grounds, there's less involved in making it.

Otherwise, I prefer fresh brewed, but as long as it's got the magic caffeine juice in it I'm not too particular.

JKex (JKex), Thursday, 25 August 2005 14:23 (fourteen years ago) link

I second Kenco Really Rich. We have a coffee machine, which cost about £10, but we've never actually used it.

I'm just too damn lazy. Instant coffee tastes alright if you get a nice one and make it strong with plenty of milk. And a bit of rum if I'm feeling cheeky.

Colonel Poo (Colonel Poo), Thursday, 25 August 2005 14:35 (fourteen years ago) link


tissp! (the impossible shortest specia), Thursday, 25 August 2005 14:39 (fourteen years ago) link

decent espresso machines do cost a lot of money, good coffee shops here: sell them fr about £100-150 for a really good quality machine and abt £400 for the top of the range but the cheapest ones aren't a total disgrace.

You can definetely tell the difference in quality but the espresso still tastes moderately nice and much better than instant. I only have problems when using a really strong french roast style coffee, the espresso itself doesn't taste too bad but the resulting smell across the house is pretty foul.

jeffrey (johnson), Thursday, 25 August 2005 14:52 (fourteen years ago) link

i don't use cream/milk ever. getting all purist about how coffee should be made and yet continuing to mix it with baby liquid/powder = DUD

amon (eman), Thursday, 25 August 2005 15:15 (fourteen years ago) link


cozen (Cozen), Thursday, 25 August 2005 15:41 (fourteen years ago) link


jeffrey (johnson), Thursday, 25 August 2005 16:13 (fourteen years ago) link

any instant coffee i've had is better than cheap ass brewin coffee. so, classic.

AaronK (AaronK), Thursday, 25 August 2005 16:13 (fourteen years ago) link

CLASSIC for iced coffee. i got hooked on nescafe frappes in greece..
also classic is how cafes there can get away with charging the equivalent of $2-3 for a drink that costs about $0.02 to make. brilliant business sense...

dahlin (dahlin), Thursday, 25 August 2005 16:41 (fourteen years ago) link

I knew a guy that ate instant coffee crystals right out of the jar.

Beth Parker, Thursday, 25 August 2005 20:36 (fourteen years ago) link

Actually, in Israel I had instant coffee that was at least better than the shittiest drip-coffee, so I guess it's possible.

Hurting (Hurting), Thursday, 25 August 2005 20:38 (fourteen years ago) link

I am skeptical but i hate douwe egberts and can imagine a really good instant would at least be better than that.

jeffrey (johnson), Thursday, 25 August 2005 20:55 (fourteen years ago) link

I have eaten instant coffee crystals right out the jar in my younger days. pretty vile.

jeffrey (johnson), Thursday, 25 August 2005 20:56 (fourteen years ago) link

My work bought a Lavazza espresso machine which is SO CLASSIC I CAN'T STAND IT.

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Thursday, 25 August 2005 20:58 (fourteen years ago) link

At worst, can't you buy a plastic cone thing ($2), and a pack of filters ($1.50), and pour your boiling water onto freshly ground coffee?

paulhw (paulhw), Thursday, 25 August 2005 21:02 (fourteen years ago) link

I want this one.

jeffrey (johnson), Thursday, 25 August 2005 21:04 (fourteen years ago) link

Gaggia Classic, it's an espresso monster.

jeffrey (johnson), Thursday, 25 August 2005 21:05 (fourteen years ago) link

I like these little fellows for one/two cups:

I think I've seen them as cheap as ten bucks.

Is there really a decent instant coffee out there?

teeny (teeny), Thursday, 25 August 2005 21:24 (fourteen years ago) link

M&S, but don't boil the water!

cozen (Cozen), Thursday, 25 August 2005 21:27 (fourteen years ago) link

those little things are great but i have no electrical cooking appliance to put them on, sadly.

jeffrey (johnson), Thursday, 25 August 2005 21:29 (fourteen years ago) link

Should I call my friend Espressofetish for advice?

moley, Thursday, 25 August 2005 21:34 (fourteen years ago) link

screw you all, harsh chemical PUNK AS FUCK instant coffee is the best thing ever.

btw, creamer-in-instand(/creamer-at-all), wtf? is this an american thing?

etc, Thursday, 25 August 2005 21:36 (fourteen years ago) link

This thing is *astonishing*!!!

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Thursday, 25 August 2005 21:40 (fourteen years ago) link

I really should call my friend Espressofetish. Some of you need a good spanking. But I won't do it unless I'm asked.

moley, Thursday, 25 August 2005 21:41 (fourteen years ago) link

get one Cafe Bustelo instant coffee!!!! it is the best. and for iced coffee, i like it even more than the normal stuff. SO SUE ME.

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Thursday, 25 August 2005 21:44 (fourteen years ago) link

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Thursday, 25 August 2005 21:45 (fourteen years ago) link

Espressofetish! HUMANS ARE SUFFERING! Fly our way, Espressofetish!

moley, Thursday, 25 August 2005 21:50 (fourteen years ago) link

jeffrey (johnson), Thursday, 25 August 2005 21:54 (fourteen years ago) link

jeffrey (johnson), Thursday, 25 August 2005 21:54 (fourteen years ago) link

There are two places and two places only where instant is classic. 1) In the scene from Breakfast at Tiffany's where the she wakes up and pads into the kitchen area to make instant coffee and there's not enough left in the jar and so she just adds some hot water to the jar itself and drinks it. 2)Useful in cooking as is instant espresso.

Otherwise, TOTAL dud.

Wiggy (Wiggy), Thursday, 25 August 2005 23:14 (fourteen years ago) link

I wont drink instant coffee, but I used to work in a coffee shop in Phoenix, and a customer once told me that he used instant coffee grounds after seeing a bear with shaved pubes.

Hot Carl's Coffee, Friday, 26 August 2005 00:01 (fourteen years ago) link

Other coffees exist?

What be these bean things?????

JTS, Friday, 26 August 2005 00:03 (fourteen years ago) link

When the Mole calls I come a runnin

Coffee ..
You get what you pay for..
If you pay nothing, don't expect your tastebuds to have a party

Instant coffees are very different, the major factors in soluble are Blend, Roast, Grind and the extraction process

There are some soluble coffees out there that are quite expensive...for a good reason. They are produced with a high quality blend, roasted correctly, ground correctly and finally they have been made with state of the art extraction cells that extract the best parts of the coffee ..

There is too much confusion in this thread, firstly stove top units are a great way to make coffee but my personal opinion is that if you want to maximise your cafeteria then you need to buy fresh beans and then grind them just before you use them.
Please pay attention to also choosing the correct grind.
Too many people globally buy a piece of equipment and the buy rubbish retail coffee that is not ground at the correct grind size for their particular piece of equipment.

People need to understand that there is a vast difference between
"Coffee & Espresso"

If your machine at home does not have a commercial pump that takes the water pressure to 9 atmospheres of water pressure, you make coffee.

If you machine does have a gauge that tells you when you activate the pump and the water pressure goes up to 9 atm than you make espresso

To many domestic machines "claim" to produce espresso, but they don't

To me it would be like companies that make juicers "claim" that you can now make fine wine at home!

After all that, If you put the coffee in your mouth and it tastes like coffee and you enjoy it .... who cares


espresso fetish (espresso fetish), Friday, 26 August 2005 00:17 (fourteen years ago) link

Damn. Get us told.

I grind with a hand-grinder but my machine certainly doesn't do that kind of pressure.

jeffrey (johnson), Friday, 26 August 2005 00:22 (fourteen years ago) link

Espressofetish hasn't slept since 1985 and he spends every day in a lab designed specifically for blind coffee tasting. I am not joking.

moley, Friday, 26 August 2005 00:28 (fourteen years ago) link

He is my hero.

jeffrey (johnson), Friday, 26 August 2005 00:32 (fourteen years ago) link

hey mole
that twitch in the left side of my body is back too...ha ha ha

What machine is it?

espresso fetish (espresso fetish), Friday, 26 August 2005 00:33 (fourteen years ago) link

It is very very poor. Morphy Richards Café Rico Espresso maker with frother:

I am an espresso fraud but it is the most expensive one i cld and still can afford. Hopefully this will change soon and i will get a gaggia classic:

jeffrey (johnson), Friday, 26 August 2005 00:42 (fourteen years ago) link

Though i could maybe afford this one right now if it gets yr seal of approval, the De'Longhi Bar 14 Café Treviso espresso cappuccino maker:

jeffrey (johnson), Friday, 26 August 2005 00:44 (fourteen years ago) link

stick to the Gaggia classic
my recomendation is that you take the money you have allocated
for your coffee
spend more on the grinder than the machine
or if you have a good local roaster that knows what they are doing
ask them to grind your coffee on their grinder

the grinder i use for home is $4000
but the grind it delivers is very even, this is essential for good extraction

espresso fetish (espresso fetish), Friday, 26 August 2005 01:02 (fourteen years ago) link

crikey! are the blades made of gold?

gem (trisk), Friday, 26 August 2005 01:03 (fourteen years ago) link

i don't drink coffee at home because i can't afford an espresso machine and i don't like coffee that isn't espresso. so on a personal basis i think instant coffee is a dud. however i also totally agree with this statement:

After all that, If you put the coffee in your mouth and it tastes like coffee and you enjoy it .... who cares

coffee snobbery is no less annoying than other sorts!

gem (trisk), Friday, 26 August 2005 01:05 (fourteen years ago) link

Excellent. My local establishment does seem to know what it's doing, they are very passionate about coffee and allowing me to test expensive pieces of equipment in the hope i will one day buy them. I shall use them fr grinding so i can buy the Gaggia. Thanks very much for yr espresso wisdom.

I agree with anti coffee snobbery statements and enjoying the taste enjoyment, i am just rather obsessed with the wonderful caffeinated liquid and want it to taste as good as possible.

jeffrey (johnson), Friday, 26 August 2005 01:13 (fourteen years ago) link

i know exactly how you feel jeffrey! this is why i don't drink coffee at home. one day i'll be able to afford to have espresso in my kitchen too though hopefully.

gem (trisk), Friday, 26 August 2005 01:20 (fourteen years ago) link

I stick to my 3/6 cup Vev Vigano stovetop espresso thingy... it has become blackened on the outside from years of daily loving use. When I'm lazy, I buy the bricks of preground (and I realise it is no good), but when I have time I'll go to Coffee Company down the road and get a good espresso blend ground fresh for me.

Trayce (trayce), Friday, 26 August 2005 01:46 (fourteen years ago) link

how good is the smell of freshly ground coffee trayce? could it be the best smell in the world?

gem (trisk), Friday, 26 August 2005 01:47 (fourteen years ago) link

gem and jeffery
i highly recomend this
For me it is not the ultimate, but it is the best domestic build avalible, no plumming, no special power
just grind and enjoy

coffee snobs
generally the people that speak the loudest
generally lack substance

at the end of the day it is like saying "what is the best wine in the world"?

Answer : the one you like.

espresso fetish (espresso fetish), Friday, 26 August 2005 01:50 (fourteen years ago) link

mmmm....freshly ground coffee

jeffrey (johnson), Friday, 26 August 2005 01:51 (fourteen years ago) link

@espresso fetish

That is an expensively wonderful piece of machinery. That one will be held in reserve on the very slim chance i ever put my accounting degree to use and start making real money otherwise it will be good old gaggia. I thought £150 was an awful lot to spend on an espresso machine but that thing retails in the U.K at just under £1000. Maybe i could sell a lung or two.

jeffrey (johnson), Friday, 26 August 2005 02:02 (fourteen years ago) link

i'm not denying the enjoyment of fresh ground/brewed coffee. but instant coffee fulfills its utilitarian purpose and does it well for this financially-strapped lazy fuck in need of a quick caffeine jolt in the morn.

amon (eman), Friday, 26 August 2005 02:03 (fourteen years ago) link

in a way i don't want to ever have enough money to buy an espresso machine because i love coffee shops almost as much as i love the coffee they sell. i have two favourite shops and the staff in both know me by name and like to have a chat.

gem (trisk), Friday, 26 August 2005 02:04 (fourteen years ago) link

I want to love coffee shops but i have to travel 30 miles to get to a starbucks. They have very good couches there tho.

jeffrey (johnson), Friday, 26 August 2005 02:07 (fourteen years ago) link

fortunately we don't have starbucks in my city yet. i'm sure it's just a matter of time. however (presumably due to the lack of competition) and even though i live in a relatively small city, this means there are lots of awesome little coffeeshops with local characters in them and milk crates to sit on out the front.

gem (trisk), Friday, 26 August 2005 02:12 (fourteen years ago) link

My local shops have some fabulous coffeeshops in them, altho theyre startng to get a bit spoiled by the yuppie wankers with their dogs thing on the weekends.

Trayce (trayce), Friday, 26 August 2005 02:14 (fourteen years ago) link

oh yeah melbs has the best coffeeshops in the world i think! though i remember liking the ones in madrid and in rome a lot, hmmm.

gem (trisk), Friday, 26 August 2005 02:16 (fourteen years ago) link

Since a pretty mediocre cup at the school cafe is like $1.75, I took my old french press and a mug and threw it in the locker. I commute by bike with a full load of laptop and casebooks, so coffee actually works well--I can grind it and carry it down there and it weighs nothing. I feel totally dorky making coffee in the vending/microwave nook (I guess other students can afford to buy espresso daily), but screw that. At least it tastes good. I like black, so creamer is not an issue.

Hunter (Hunter), Friday, 26 August 2005 02:22 (fourteen years ago) link

I used to do that at work, also :) Being as we didnt have a stove, so espresso was out, and I could never be bothered havng to take a 15 min break just to go buy a coffee, I'd make my own with a plunger. And get comments, from smartassiness ("ooh arent you POSH") to pleady ("argh no fair that smells GOOOOD").

Trayce (trayce), Friday, 26 August 2005 02:24 (fourteen years ago) link

Ah, yeah, law students, or really, the 23 y/o ones with no life experience, tend to think they are THE SHIT and would not deign to be seen making their own coffee in public. I think the portion that already drive the Lexuses can afford really good shit anyway. But me, I'm a value player. The 12-15 minutes of preparation time required push this transaction right to the line, I gotta say. But as far as what the others think, they can piss right off.

Hunter (Hunter), Friday, 26 August 2005 02:32 (fourteen years ago) link

The moment someone starts as espresso thread I'm going on there to talk about the minute differences between Folger's Crystals and Bustelo, and the sub-boiling stove-top temperatures of the water in which each finds its ideal realization. Or do you do like I do, spooning instant coffee over ice, pouring in milk and some refrigerated Volvic, and shaking in a cocktail shaker? But not just that. I want to talk about attitude and attention to detail. I want to talk about the torque on the spoon when the crystals go in. The vast chasm between water pouring onto crystals vs. crystals submerging into water. You know, when you think about it, it's really the personality of the the instant coffee drinker that determines the flavor in the cup of instant coffee as much as anything else.

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Friday, 26 August 2005 02:50 (fourteen years ago) link

excellent. start the thread.

jeffrey (johnson), Friday, 26 August 2005 02:55 (fourteen years ago) link

The Nescafe blend43 ads on TV at the moment here are hilariously good. The one with the dad who's all morning-cheery at his daughter who's just snuck home after being out all night... chasing her b/f down the road with "come in! have a cuppa!". I love it :D

Trayce (trayce), Friday, 26 August 2005 02:55 (fourteen years ago) link

Is it true you can actually *hear* that alchemical moment where crystals become coffee, like the singing of angels?

Hunter (Hunter), Friday, 26 August 2005 03:01 (fourteen years ago) link

I don't hear any singing until the caffeine triggers my adrenal gland.

Rock Hardy (Rock Hardy), Friday, 26 August 2005 03:02 (fourteen years ago) link

Dear instant coffee thread,

Sorry i helped turn a large amount of the discussion onto espresso. I hope you can forgive me.

jeffrey (johnson), Friday, 26 August 2005 03:03 (fourteen years ago) link

haha yeah that nescafe ad is a classic. the look on the daughter's face.

gem (trisk), Friday, 26 August 2005 03:05 (fourteen years ago) link

actually there've been heaps of great nescafe ads. they're the most classic thing about instant coffee i think!

gem (trisk), Friday, 26 August 2005 03:09 (fourteen years ago) link

Classic = Anthony Stewart Head

jeffrey (johnson), Friday, 26 August 2005 03:13 (fourteen years ago) link

jeffrey and fetishist, it's all good! It may be a coincidence on this thread rightchere, but discussions of coffee VERY OFTEN turn into one or two people going on and on about technical espresso details which makes the rest of feel mighty DUMM!

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Friday, 26 August 2005 03:14 (fourteen years ago) link

people going on and on? on ilx? surely not

gem (trisk), Friday, 26 August 2005 03:15 (fourteen years ago) link

It is not confined to ILX I find.

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Friday, 26 August 2005 03:24 (fourteen years ago) link

true. i think i'm becoming one of the worst offenders actually. i have caught myself mid-gush several times lately, my poor workmates and classmates with their eyes glazed over, glancing at their watches. not about coffee usually though. i must try and curb that habit. maybe it's because i drink too much coffee

gem (trisk), Friday, 26 August 2005 03:27 (fourteen years ago) link

you are a RE-offender.

jeffrey (johnson), Friday, 26 August 2005 03:30 (fourteen years ago) link

a recidivist gusher and coffeedrinker

gem (trisk), Friday, 26 August 2005 03:30 (fourteen years ago) link

I was talking about me feeling dumm but yes.

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Friday, 26 August 2005 03:41 (fourteen years ago) link

best thing about nescafe in NZ = packets of instant have KING KAPISI on the back!

etc, Friday, 26 August 2005 04:04 (fourteen years ago) link

anyway, functionalism wrt/beverages is k-grebt! I want CAFFEINE or ALCOHOL, not coffee-snobbery or wine-snobbery!

etc has a butterfly stomach ground round, Friday, 26 August 2005 04:08 (fourteen years ago) link

It's nothing to do with snobbery, it's to do with me feeling dumm, keep up, people.

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Friday, 26 August 2005 04:13 (fourteen years ago) link

D!U!M!M! Everyone's accusing him!

moley (moley), Friday, 26 August 2005 04:25 (fourteen years ago) link

not coffee-snobbery or wine-snobbery!

Hah, about 30 mins ago I was thinking to start a box/cask wine: c/d thread in homage, but bailed. Anyway, to further derail thread, I like the boxed Banrock Shiraz Crystalz sorta ok, k?

Hunter (Hunter), Friday, 26 August 2005 04:34 (fourteen years ago) link

i always drink cask wine so i guess i am a coffee snob but not a wine snob. however i am a cask snob - i won't touch stanleys or coolabah, it's yalumba or banrock only in my fridge.

gem (trisk), Friday, 26 August 2005 05:24 (fourteen years ago) link

I am drinking mellow birds instant coffee and it isn't awful.

jeffrey (johnson), Friday, 26 August 2005 15:11 (fourteen years ago) link

fourteen years pass...

led by circumstance into making do with a jar of grocery store brand instant, i have done research and am informed by wikipedia and the beeb that

instant still accounts for 77% of the coffee Brits buy to drink at home, according to market research specialists Mintel. In Italy it accounts for just 1%, in France 4% and 7% in the US. The UK market for coffee at home is growing and is now worth in excess of £1bn annually. Instant has lost market share recently but still dominates over the likes of ground coffee and beans.

for years when i was a kid my dad, american, kept a jar of instant in the cupboard for drinking on weekends, i suppose primarily saturdays, since he drank 1-3 cups a day at work during the week and apparently would get a caffeine headache when he missed it. (i say saturday, because there is coffee at the fellowship hour after church service on sunday.) in retirement i suppose he started drinking instant more regularly.

j., Sunday, 5 April 2020 18:36 (one month ago) link

Several years ago at a worksite that didn't provide any coffee, I started drinking Medaglia d'Oro instant espresso. It was acceptable, compared to the alternative of driving to the nearest Starbucks. (On slower days my coworkers would collect orders for two or even three Starbucks runs.)

Life is a banquet and my invitation was lost in the mail (, Monday, 6 April 2020 10:37 (one month ago) link

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