who writes well about morality in art?

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Meaning writers/critics who don't take the usual "well it's all FICTION innit so everything's allowed" easy way out, but also don't end up so puritanical that they can't even acknowedlege the slightest hint of artistic merit in something that they find morally flawed. Ppl who write well about the conflicts that arise when yr aesthetics and yer morals/politics get into a conflict with each other, people that have talked about how and when bad morals and bad art intersect, that sort of thing.

("art" here means literature, movies, music, whatever.)

Daniel_Rf (Daniel_Rf), Friday, 26 August 2005 15:52 (twenty years ago)

armond white?

hstencil (hstencil), Friday, 26 August 2005 15:55 (twenty years ago)

Tuomas!

Huk-L (Huk-L), Friday, 26 August 2005 15:55 (twenty years ago)

James Wood

Michael Wood

but not Ron Wood

the woodfox, Friday, 26 August 2005 15:58 (twenty years ago)

Ooh, I have an (unread) collection of Armond White's essays. Gear hates him, apparently. :(

Daniel_Rf (Daniel_Rf), Saturday, 27 August 2005 09:22 (twenty years ago)

Martha Nussbaum

Mädchen (Madchen), Monday, 29 August 2005 14:12 (twenty years ago)

Contingency, Irony, and Solidarity by Richard Rorty

Not as slow-going as the title might suggest.

Thea (Thea), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 03:35 (twenty years ago)

Wendy Steiner

anthony, Tuesday, 30 August 2005 03:43 (twenty years ago)

all feminist art critics to thread!

Orbit (Orbit), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 03:54 (twenty years ago)

Tuomas!

SNAP!!!

giboyeux (skowly), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 04:13 (twenty years ago)

Not as slow-going as the title might suggest.

Yeah, pretty good book, I have to say. One of the few theory texts from my grad school reading days I'd look through again.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 04:14 (twenty years ago)

Walter Benjamin
Siegfried Kracauer
James Agee
Jonathan Rosenbaum

fauxhemian (fauxhemian), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 04:22 (twenty years ago)

John Gardner's _On Moral Fiction_ rawks.

Guayaquil, Tuesday, 30 August 2005 04:22 (twenty years ago)

Friend of mine: http://plumer.blogspot.com/2005_08_01_plumer_archive.html#112533813593358404

giboyeux (skowly), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 04:25 (twenty years ago)

D'oh! I misread this as "mortality in art" and I was about to go crazy with the linkification to Nigel Spivey, but alas.

(Mortality is far more interesting to me than morality, as one risks becoming far too preachy and ::shudder:: PC, especially with the feminist critics (Gorilla Girls excepted) but I suppose it's far more commonly addressed. Is art supposed to be an expression of, or an escape from morality?)

Luminiferous Aether (kate), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 07:51 (twenty years ago)

Mortality is far more interesting to me than morality, as one risks becoming far too preachy and ::shudder:: PC

Well yes see, that's partly why it's so difficult to write *well* about the subject, thus this thread. :)

Besides, I already know who writes well about mortality in art:

The talking-horse's-head one is The Goose Girl and I like it, for some reason. Oh, that's right -- I like it because in the end the faithless lady-in-waiting is bundled naked into a barrel with nails driven into it (pointy bits IN) and rolled through the city until DED.

Ditto the orig end of Snow White in which Snowy & Prince Charming invite the evil queen to their wedding and when she gets there, they make her put on a pair of iron shoes heated to white-hot and dance until she falls down DED.

I'm sensing a theme, yes.

-- Laurel (sininspac...), August 29th, 2005.

Daniel_Rf (Daniel_Rf), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 11:08 (twenty years ago)

Thanks for the suggestions, everyone!

Daniel_Rf (Daniel_Rf), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 11:08 (twenty years ago)


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