iTunes phone details are emerging

Message Bookmarked
Bookmark Removed
It's been talked about for a while and Motorola had said end of September already, but fuller details are finally out, as noted here:

Mr Entner said the device will give a phone music playing abilities roughly equivalent to Apple's iPod shuffle.

This smaller music playing device has either 512MB or 1GB of storage. The larger model can hold up to 240 songs.

The handset due to be unveiled will reportedly be the first in a series of iTunes equipped phones made by Motorola that will be given the name "Rokr".

What is unclear as yet is whether the phone will allow for music to be downloaded via wireless services or only when the gadget is connected to a computer.

Rokr? Oh dear.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 31 August 2005 15:03 (twenty years ago)

rokist

stckhlm cnd (Jody Beth Rosen), Wednesday, 31 August 2005 15:06 (twenty years ago)

Motorola? Oh dear. 1/2 Gb? Oh dear.

Markelby (Mark C), Wednesday, 31 August 2005 15:07 (twenty years ago)

Suddenly I'm hungry for almond roca.

n/a (Nick A.), Wednesday, 31 August 2005 15:07 (twenty years ago)

I thought they've been discovering that all the feature-loaded phones are the ones with the worst reception problems.

Hurting (Hurting), Wednesday, 31 August 2005 15:09 (twenty years ago)

http://www.unitedstations.com/usrnweb/pages/content/alroker/pic-Al2.jpg

k/l (Ken L), Wednesday, 31 August 2005 15:11 (twenty years ago)

Technology should stop now.

jel -- (jel), Wednesday, 31 August 2005 15:14 (twenty years ago)

i have a friend who works for motorola and he said that they have a linguist on staff whose job it is to come up with product names that translate to (or can be understood by people who speak) as many languages as possible. hence, razr. rokr.

The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 31 August 2005 15:15 (twenty years ago)

What is iTunes?

jel -- (jel), Wednesday, 31 August 2005 15:18 (twenty years ago)

Dearie me, this is a bit pathetic when lined up against Nokia's 4GB offering. Plus, y'know, Motorola's OS and interface being utter crap doesn't help.

RickyT (RickyT), Wednesday, 31 August 2005 15:18 (twenty years ago)

Someone has published this f45 minutes early:

The new Motorola ROKR (pronounced "Rocker") is available in the following markets:

- U.S. - today, exclusively with Cingular
- U.K. - expected to be available first with Carphone Warehouse in mid-September and with O2, Orange, Virgin Mobile, BT Mobile and other top retailers by late September
- France - expected to be available by late September through key retailers
- Italy - expected to be available by late September through key retailers
- Canada - expected to be available in mid- to late-September with Rogers Wireless
- Hong Kong - expected to be available by late September through multiple retail outlets and operator channels
- Australia, Singapore and the Philippines - expected to be available late September through early October through retail and operator channels
- Argentina, Brazil, Mexico and other markets throughout the world - expected to be available in the fourth quarter

http://www.mobiledia.com/news/35870.html

James Mitchell (James Mitchell), Wednesday, 7 September 2005 16:00 (twenty years ago)

Well the press conference is running now, I believe.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 7 September 2005 16:03 (twenty years ago)

Preparing to discuss Motorola’s current status at a Wall Street investors’ conference early Wednesday morning, chairman and CEO Ed Zander had a one word answer when asked what he could say concerning an expected unveiling later in the day of a device that combines a Motorola cell phone with an Apple iPod music player. “Nothing,” said Zander.

Despite that demurral, Zander couldn't completely hold his tongue. “I think it’s going to be big,” he said, indicating that songs will be able to be downloaded into the phone from PCs but the major feature of music video playback won’t be available until later. Moreover, the rights and royalties to videos are a looming hurdle that needs to be overcome.

http://www.crn.com/sections/breakingnews/dailyarchives.jhtml?articleId=170701147

James Mitchell (James Mitchell), Wednesday, 7 September 2005 16:09 (twenty years ago)

God, why does it have to be Motorola?

stet (stet), Wednesday, 7 September 2005 16:14 (twenty years ago)

I may get one depending on the phone functionality, I'm due an upgrade about now. The last Motorola phone I had sucked arse big time (but that was in 1997)

Ed (dali), Wednesday, 7 September 2005 16:14 (twenty years ago)

Apparently the Nokia N91 will have iTunes as well when they launch that.

James Mitchell (James Mitchell), Wednesday, 7 September 2005 16:14 (twenty years ago)

It would be cool if it had that circular wheel from the ipod and you had to dial it like a rotary phone!

walter kranz (walterkranz), Wednesday, 7 September 2005 16:16 (twenty years ago)

N91 seems much more promising, their UI is pretty good.

Ed (dali), Wednesday, 7 September 2005 16:16 (twenty years ago)

There's already a couple SonyEricsson phones with roughly the same specs, not Apple affiliated of course.

k750i
http://www.sonyericsson.com/k750/

Walkman 800 phone
http://www.sonyericsson.com/w800/mainpage.aspx

gygax! (gygax!), Wednesday, 7 September 2005 16:20 (twenty years ago)

more computers less gimmicks please.

jed_ (jed), Wednesday, 7 September 2005 16:21 (twenty years ago)

i'm in the market for a new phone.

this won't be it.

grimly fiendish (grimlord), Wednesday, 7 September 2005 16:23 (twenty years ago)

It would be cool if it had that circular wheel from the ipod and you had to dial it like a rotary phone!

http://www.gizmodo.com/gadgets/iSpoof6.jpg

James Mitchell (James Mitchell), Wednesday, 7 September 2005 16:24 (twenty years ago)

The k750i is a great phone, can't recommend it enough. I know several people with one. I'm so bought into the iTunes thing now, though that iTunes functionality on a phone would be if not a deal breaker then a deal maker.

(If they could get iTunes onto the nokia 9300 that would have me sold)

Ed (dali), Wednesday, 7 September 2005 16:24 (twenty years ago)

new iTunes out -- has smart shuffle. this makes me embarrassingly happy, since I've been grousing about it since 2001.

stet (stet), Wednesday, 7 September 2005 16:28 (twenty years ago)

smart shuffle?

jed_ (jed), Wednesday, 7 September 2005 16:29 (twenty years ago)

it means it won't be truly random -- it'll be aware of who it has played recently, so you don't get clumps of the one artist.

stet (stet), Wednesday, 7 September 2005 16:30 (twenty years ago)

ok ta.

jed_ (jed), Wednesday, 7 September 2005 16:32 (twenty years ago)

Oh dear:

Madonna and other musicians are also being tapped to shill the new ROKR in an advertising campaign set to begin later this week, showing them in a phone booth out in the desert.

http://www.macworld.com/news/2005/09/07/special/index.php

James Mitchell (James Mitchell), Wednesday, 7 September 2005 16:37 (twenty years ago)

any pictures of this thing yet?

Ed (dali), Wednesday, 7 September 2005 17:03 (twenty years ago)

Not the phone, but here's the Nano: http://static.flickr.com/25/41197718_05ccb53652.jpg?v=0

retort pouch (retort pouch), Wednesday, 7 September 2005 17:04 (twenty years ago)

http://static.flickr.com/25/41192845_5ac68098e5.jpg?v=0

milozauckerman (miloaukerman), Wednesday, 7 September 2005 17:04 (twenty years ago)

After summarizing the existing iPod product line, Jobs explained that the iPod mini is what all of Apple's competitors are aiming for. Apple is "going to do something pretty bold," he said. Apple is "replacing it with something new."

Jobs calls the iPod nano "an entirely new ground-up design, that also has 1000 songs in your pocket." The white device features a color display and can support photos, uses a grey click wheel to navigate, and is 80 percent smaller in volume than the original iPod -- thinner than a number two pencil, said Jobs. The iPod nano weighs 1.5 ounces or 42 grams.

Compared to the iPod mini, the iPod nano is half the thickness and 62 percent smaller by volume. It uses a 30-pin dock connector, so the iPod nano plugs in to existing iPod accessories, and can also connect using USB 2.0. It features a 14-hour rechargeable battery. It achieves its small size by eschewing a hard disk drive in favor of flash memory.

The iPod nano also features a new graphical clock, games, stopwatch and lap timer, and a screen lock that uses the click wheel like a combination lock.

"White is our signature color for the iPod ... but we decided to so a second color, and we tried it because it looked so cool," said Jobs, "so we're doing a black model as well."

The iPod nano ships today in 2GB and 4GB configurations for US$199 and $249 respectively. Apple is also offering customized iPod nano accessories including a $29 dock, $39 lanyard with built-in headphones, color-coordinated armbands for $29 each, and "nanotubes" -- green, purple, blue and pink slipcases, sold in boxes of five, for $29 each.

The event ended with R&B star Kanye West performing his hit songs "All Falls Down" and "Gold Digger" for the crowd. He thanked Jobs for allowing him to perform, and added, "Thank you for making my life much easier. I remember when I had tapes."

Fushigina Blobby: Blobania no Kiki (ex machina), Wednesday, 7 September 2005 17:19 (twenty years ago)

"Steve Jobs does care."

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 7 September 2005 17:20 (twenty years ago)

well, shit. Guess I should have thrown my iPod mini from the student rebate on Ebay earlier.

milozauckerman (miloaukerman), Wednesday, 7 September 2005 17:27 (twenty years ago)

fuck the phone, the nano looks fucking amazing

Ed (dali), Wednesday, 7 September 2005 17:28 (twenty years ago)

http://images.apple.com/itunes/overview/images/overviewplaylists20050907.gif

iTunes 5!

Fushigina Blobby: Blobania no Kiki (ex machina), Wednesday, 7 September 2005 17:29 (twenty years ago)

Yea, if I was going to buy anew iPod I'd probably go for anao even with the low capacity. Let's hope flash memory companies increase density so we can see them get bigger. 14 fucking hours of playtime.

Fushigina Blobby: Blobania no Kiki (ex machina), Wednesday, 7 September 2005 17:30 (twenty years ago)

Hahaha! "Requires a two-year Cingular contract"

Abandon all hope ye who enter one of those...

Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Wednesday, 7 September 2005 17:48 (twenty years ago)

Free with a 12 month contract in the UK suckers.

Ed (dali), Wednesday, 7 September 2005 17:50 (twenty years ago)

No email and no EDGE sucks, though.

Ed (dali), Wednesday, 7 September 2005 17:52 (twenty years ago)

The iTunes 5 GUI is much nicer.

Fushigina Blobby: Blobania no Kiki (ex machina), Wednesday, 7 September 2005 18:12 (twenty years ago)

fuck the phone, the nano looks fucking amazing

Amen.

http://images.apple.com/home/2005/images/ipodnanohand20050907.jpg

Tasty...

rogermexico (rogermexico), Wednesday, 7 September 2005 18:42 (twenty years ago)

I need to stop myself from walking out and buying one tomorrow, if only because I will be stateside soon and will be able to get one cheaper.

Ed (dali), Wednesday, 7 September 2005 18:44 (twenty years ago)

also I should save my money, keep my current iPod and get a Dr Xin amplifier and Ultimate Ears headphones.

Ed (dali), Wednesday, 7 September 2005 18:46 (twenty years ago)

Sell your current ipod in the UK, get the nano and the gear in the US. Is the new supermini out yet?

rogermexico (rogermexico), Wednesday, 7 September 2005 19:04 (twenty years ago)

Maybe I shouldn't ask this here, but does anyone know if you can use a USB 1.1 port with an iPod Mini under WinXP Pro, or will it just crap out and say "get USB 2.0 or IEEE1394 fule"? A friend of mine is buying one for her boyfriend and she needs to know if I need to upgrade his 'puter. Yes, I know it would be a good idea anyway.

Bryan (Bryan), Wednesday, 7 September 2005 19:10 (twenty years ago)

WTF? iPods were small enough to begin with. I hope this leads to razor-thin laptops, though.

Casuistry (Chris P), Wednesday, 7 September 2005 19:11 (twenty years ago)

x-post: almost certainly not. i'm 99% sure you need USB 2 or firewire.

grimly fiendish (grimlord), Wednesday, 7 September 2005 19:14 (twenty years ago)

WTF? iPods were small enough to begin with. I hope this leads to razor-thin laptops, though.

without HDs?!

grimly fiendish (grimlord), Wednesday, 7 September 2005 19:14 (twenty years ago)

that's the plan, from what I understand. Replace big, battery-hog HDs with flash HDs that are faster and more reliable - Samsung has 'em up to 16GB now. Maybe by the time they roll out Intel Powerbooks, we can get two or three 40GB flash drives.

milozauckerman (miloaukerman), Wednesday, 7 September 2005 19:25 (twenty years ago)

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2005/09/07/atom_chip_miracle_machine/

Ed (dali), Wednesday, 7 September 2005 19:50 (twenty years ago)

The new iTunes 5 interface is gim ... and looks like nothing else they do. Again.

The nano is sweet ... and it's high time they made a tiny laptop as well.

That phone though, jesus it's awful.

stet (stet), Wednesday, 7 September 2005 19:55 (twenty years ago)

Maybe by the time they roll out Intel Powerbooks, we can get two or three 40GB flash drives.

now that would be cool. however: given the misery we have with one of our iPod shuffles (it frequently forgets everything that's on it, except, oddly, "i believe in you" by kylie; it seems to be something to do with switching users while it's plugged in), i'm not sure i'd trust anything important to flash memory.

i'm just downloading iTunes 5 now. the phone looks pish, but i've not explored the website yet.

grimly fiendish (grimlord), Wednesday, 7 September 2005 20:08 (twenty years ago)

'The new iTunes 5 interface is gim ... and looks like nothing else they do. Again.'

Looks a lot like Tiger Mail; but you are right there hasn't been a human interface standard from apple for years and they used to be so good at that.

Ed (dali), Wednesday, 7 September 2005 20:15 (twenty years ago)

i much prefer this inderface, hopefully this spells the end of "brushed metal".

jed_ (jed), Wednesday, 7 September 2005 20:21 (twenty years ago)

eew! it's got no margins! my playlists look like they're about to slide onto my desktop. ach, i'll get used to it.

apart from that ... er, it's iTunes. only now import preferences are "advanced", apparently.

i've never downloaded a podcast in my life (partly because "podcast" sounds like a euphemism for jism). looking at the directory, though, i see there's radio 4 stuff ... am i missing out on a whole world of current affairs and entertainment made easy? or is it, as i suspect, a big ol' gimmick?

grimly fiendish (grimlord), Wednesday, 7 September 2005 20:22 (twenty years ago)

The importance of podcasting lies in hearing things that *aren't* on a regular broadcast radio station.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 7 September 2005 20:23 (twenty years ago)

Hahaha! "Requires a two-year Cingular contract"

Abandon all hope ye who enter one of those...

AARRGGH. I'm excited about the tri(quad?)-band GSM (thank you to whoever put that on there), but I really hope that they do something like the Razr, where you can pay $200 more or so to get a "special editition" (aka unlocked) one. I'd happily pay that much to avoid Cingular. I might be better off just duct-taping my shuffle onto my t68 anyway, though. :-P

lyra (lyra), Wednesday, 7 September 2005 20:29 (twenty years ago)

Dr Xin amplifier

tell me more...

i so, so want a nano already, although i guess i should wait until after xmas or something. although i wonder how much they are in canada (i'm there next week)? hmmm... i don't really need one though, it's not like i really find the mini too big.

toby (tsg20), Wednesday, 7 September 2005 20:38 (twenty years ago)

I want a w800 so bad, but I'm not sure if Cingular will be releasing a version here.

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Wednesday, 7 September 2005 20:42 (twenty years ago)

[podcasts]

jesus! there's thousands of 'em. god damn.

a google for "podcast recommendations" brings up, heh, an ILM thread as the second hit. one day. for now, i'm off to me kip.

o wow, "in the aeroplane over the sea" is on iTunes. perhaps i should buy it.

grimly fiendish (grimlord), Wednesday, 7 September 2005 20:58 (twenty years ago)

Dr Xin amplifier
tell me more...

All you could possibly want to know can be found...

At Xin's site - supermacro is the only model currently shipping. though supermini is teh cool:
http://www.fixup.net/products/macro/index.htm
http://www.fixup.net/products/pktamp/smini.htm

Or at head-fi: www.head-fi.org

rogermexico (rogermexico), Wednesday, 7 September 2005 21:25 (twenty years ago)

I want a w800 so bad, but I'm not sure if Cingular will be releasing a version here.

The w800 is coming to the states though

Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Wednesday, 7 September 2005 23:26 (twenty years ago)

Just started downloading iTunes 5.0 on my home PC. It's 33mb! The last version was only 21mb, though apparently this one includes Quicktime 7, so maybe that's why it's so much larger...

James Mitchell (James Mitchell), Thursday, 8 September 2005 00:51 (twenty years ago)

Ha ha, the day after I get the mini, it becomes obsolelete. I think I will stick with it though, insta-retro!

Mary (Mary), Thursday, 8 September 2005 00:59 (twenty years ago)

the QT update was ~32mb on my Mac, iTunes was about 12 by itself.

milozauckerman (miloaukerman), Thursday, 8 September 2005 01:07 (twenty years ago)

Over in the UK, Walker's Crisps is doing a promotion where they're giving away an iPod Mini every five minutes, 24 hours a day, throughout September.

They must have a shitload of inventory to get rid of.

James Mitchell (James Mitchell), Thursday, 8 September 2005 01:12 (twenty years ago)

the best thing is FOLDERS FOR PLAYLISTS!!

s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 8 September 2005 03:23 (twenty years ago)

eew! it's got no margins! my playlists look like they're about to slide onto my desktop. ach, i'll get used to it.

Seriously. Guh. So ugly.

Casuistry (Chris P), Thursday, 8 September 2005 03:28 (twenty years ago)

The w800 is coming to the states though

What I've read is that the w800 does not use GSM 850, which is the preferred band here. Also, with Cingular selling this (inferior) iTunes ROKR (like the PRML SCRM-ness of the name though), they might not offer the w800 due to marketing arrangements with Apple. The w800 can do up to a 2GB memory stick (comes with 512 and a 1GB stick isn't that expensive), has a 2MP camera, reportedly 30 hours of battery life and no iTunes which makes it incredibly appealing (plus it looks great).

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Thursday, 8 September 2005 03:49 (twenty years ago)

The Dr Xin super-macro is a small wonder, you can swap the op-amps in them and my colleague has been testing every high end op-amp out there (things that get put in £10000 amplifiers), most amp chip manufacturers will send samples for cost of postage or a small fee. Combined with the Ultimate Ears and AAC+ 320kbps material from his iPod (better than ALAC apparently) it is the most stunning auditory experience I've heard.

Ed (dali), Thursday, 8 September 2005 06:00 (twenty years ago)

I am NOT IMPRESSED WHATSOEVER that to install Quicktime on my pc simply so I can look at movs, I now have to put up with iTunes on here as well. Apple you stink. I DONT WANT ITUNES. Oh well.

Trayce (trayce), Thursday, 8 September 2005 06:49 (twenty years ago)

Why would anyone want to listen to music on their phone? Even if the sound quality is any good, a max capacity of 240 songs is not impressive.

Orbit (Orbit), Thursday, 8 September 2005 06:58 (twenty years ago)

240 songs is loads!

Gravel Puzzleworth (Gregory Henry), Thursday, 8 September 2005 07:06 (twenty years ago)

Not to me. but I'm standardized on my iPod which has a very large capacity.

Orbit (Orbit), Thursday, 8 September 2005 07:10 (twenty years ago)

Bah, that's underhand of apple and somewhat unhelpful not to provide a separate installer, I presume you can choose not to install iTunes as a custom option?

Ed (dali), Thursday, 8 September 2005 07:10 (twenty years ago)

Why would anyone want to listen to music on their phone?

Or play videogames on it. Is Nokia secretly pushing for this too? I still think we're a few years from a phone being the ultimate media toy.

I don't mean to get off-topic but I'm wondering if I should get a Creative Zen next week (20GB) or some smaller Ipod thing that's only 5GB or so. They're roughly the same price. Could someone e-mail me or post their recommendations for mp3 players within the $180-240 area? Is the Ipod's greatest catch its portability and compatability with all sorts of smaller things? I haven't paid attention to these things in the past year so I don't know what's the newest thing.

Cunga (Cunga), Thursday, 8 September 2005 07:23 (twenty years ago)

well that's my decision made for me

cozen (Cozen), Thursday, 8 September 2005 08:21 (twenty years ago)

4GBs is plenty

on my 10GB I used to just use playlists

which probably took up about 1GB of space

if that


plus I'm sure I can get a friend in america to buy one and send it

so, should be pretty cheap too

cozen (Cozen), Thursday, 8 September 2005 08:22 (twenty years ago)

i want a nano :-(

Britain's Jauntiest Shepherd (Alan), Thursday, 8 September 2005 08:23 (twenty years ago)

my iPod packed in completely two weeks ago

I thought I didn't miss it

then I started commuting

I'm going to buy a nano

: )

cozen (Cozen), Thursday, 8 September 2005 08:37 (twenty years ago)

soon i have to make use of my applecare to smooth my mini out - the casing pinched where i ding-ed it dropping it on to concrete, and the top panel bows out.

Britain's Jauntiest Shepherd (Alan), Thursday, 8 September 2005 08:39 (twenty years ago)

Trayce

http://www.apple.com/quicktime/download/standalone.html

Jarlr'mai (jarlrmai), Thursday, 8 September 2005 08:52 (twenty years ago)

Why would anyone want to listen to music on their phone

well quite, but it seems everyone on my bus to work is listening to music on their phones already. kids annoyingly play them through the tinny speakers which is fucking annoying

Britain's Jauntiest Shepherd (Alan), Thursday, 8 September 2005 08:57 (twenty years ago)

Ah, I sit corrected. I did the QT install in such a rush yesterday I didnt even stop to look for a standalone install!

I feel very silly now =) thanks Jarl.

Trayce (trayce), Thursday, 8 September 2005 08:57 (twenty years ago)

the iTunes 5 search options are quite neat, though, i must admit.

the editor of "stuff" magazine is claiming that the rokr has been kept a bit shit storage-wise in order that it doesn't fuck the iPod market. he reckons it could hold wad-loads more, but apple don't want to burn any bridges yet.

personally, i really don't want my phone to be my music device:

1) i like to be able to keep one earphone in, listening to music, when i'm on the mobile
2) if you lose/break it, you're doubly fucked
3) my iPod lives in a little armoured case and is treated like a fragile gem. my much-loved nokia 7650 has been scratched, dropped several times, hurled across the room and generally abused. it's a phone: phones have it tough.

grimly fiendish (grimlord), Thursday, 8 September 2005 08:59 (twenty years ago)

What was the idea behind not putting EDGE on a phone with which the network is going to want the user to download large chunks of data on.

Ed (dali), Thursday, 8 September 2005 10:51 (twenty years ago)

o wow, "in the aeroplane over the sea" is on iTunes. perhaps i should buy it.

or you could download it here for free (as one of yr free starter albums).

Jams Murphy (ystrickler), Thursday, 8 September 2005 13:27 (twenty years ago)

coo!

MEANWHILE, BACK IN PLANET ITUNES 5:

i've just inserted the new grandaddy CD. and the fucker hoys straight off to the CDDB to get the tracks. I DON'T WANT IT TO DO THAT. AND I CAN'T FIND ANY PREFERENCE TO STOP IT.

fuck that, apple. that's microsoft shit: that whole "oh, we know what you want to do" thing. if i want the tracklisting, i'll get it myself. grrrrrrr.

grimly fiendish (grimlord), Thursday, 8 September 2005 18:30 (twenty years ago)

you *wanted* to type it in? you freaky anal weirdo

stet (stet), Thursday, 8 September 2005 18:33 (twenty years ago)

no, i don't. but i don't want iTunes 5 making the decision for me either.

there is no preference to stop this. at least, not that i can find.

grimly fiendish (grimlord), Thursday, 8 September 2005 18:34 (twenty years ago)

In iTunes 4.9 prefs, under the General tab, click "connect to internet when needed" off. I don't know if it's different in 5.0.

Rock Hardy (Rock Hardy), Thursday, 8 September 2005 18:38 (twenty years ago)

Not there in 5.0, I checked because I was suprised. Use the firewall to block the port? Arse I know.

Ed (dali), Thursday, 8 September 2005 18:39 (twenty years ago)

but i don't want iTunes 5 making the decision for me either
But it's an either/or thing -- and you don't want one of the choices, so why not automatically do the other? If it's a mix cd or the like, it'll just return no hits anyway.

stet (stet), Thursday, 8 September 2005 18:40 (twenty years ago)

Wow, that's fucked up. (xpost)

Rock Hardy (Rock Hardy), Thursday, 8 September 2005 18:45 (twenty years ago)

But it's an either/or thing

er, only if you reduce everything to ridiculous oppositional binaries (eg "shall i punch stet in the bolls" v "shall i do absolutely anything other than punch stet in the bolls"). when i insert a CD, iTunes is actively going off to the CDDB. i want it to passively "do nothing". i don't see how that's an either/or.

(god. the philosophy of iTunes.)

grimly fiendish (grimlord), Thursday, 8 September 2005 18:58 (twenty years ago)

Ok, but why? Wots wrong with it actively using 1k of your bandwidth? Are you putting lots of embarrasing porno audiobooks in ther or something?

stet (stet), Thursday, 8 September 2005 19:02 (twenty years ago)

hey grimly, why don't you want it to find the tracklisting? Surely it's much more annoying to have a library full of 01 Track 1 titles.

biz, Thursday, 8 September 2005 19:06 (twenty years ago)

i just don't like my mac making decisions for me. that's windoze behaviour. grrRRR. it's not like it actively causes a problem ... i was just surprised and annoyed to find it doing something i hadn't asked it to do, that i couldn't turn off.

grimly fiendish (grimlord), Thursday, 8 September 2005 19:07 (twenty years ago)

Haha, limited to 100 songs???!!!

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Thursday, 8 September 2005 19:08 (twenty years ago)

The "ROKR" that is, apparently to avoid competing with ipods!

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Thursday, 8 September 2005 19:13 (twenty years ago)

er, uh, I don't get it. "I want it to find the track listing, but I don't want it to find the track listing without my written authorization!!!!"

milozauckerman (miloaukerman), Thursday, 8 September 2005 19:56 (twenty years ago)

yes. it's like auto-complete in browsers. i don't like that either. or things that check my spelling when i'm writing. like i say: i'm just surprised and disappointed by apple trying to pre-empt what i want ... that's not how their OS used to be.

mind, things haven't been the same ever since the "default browser" control panel became, er, part of, umm, safari. fuckers.

grimly fiendish (grimlord), Thursday, 8 September 2005 23:00 (twenty years ago)


You must be logged in to post. Please either login here, or if you are not registered, you may register here.