Mr Entner said the device will give a phone music playing abilities roughly equivalent to Apple's iPod shuffle.
This smaller music playing device has either 512MB or 1GB of storage. The larger model can hold up to 240 songs.
The handset due to be unveiled will reportedly be the first in a series of iTunes equipped phones made by Motorola that will be given the name "Rokr".
What is unclear as yet is whether the phone will allow for music to be downloaded via wireless services or only when the gadget is connected to a computer.
Rokr? Oh dear.
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 31 August 2005 15:03 (twenty years ago)
― stckhlm cnd (Jody Beth Rosen), Wednesday, 31 August 2005 15:06 (twenty years ago)
― Markelby (Mark C), Wednesday, 31 August 2005 15:07 (twenty years ago)
― n/a (Nick A.), Wednesday, 31 August 2005 15:07 (twenty years ago)
― Hurting (Hurting), Wednesday, 31 August 2005 15:09 (twenty years ago)
― k/l (Ken L), Wednesday, 31 August 2005 15:11 (twenty years ago)
― jel -- (jel), Wednesday, 31 August 2005 15:14 (twenty years ago)
― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 31 August 2005 15:15 (twenty years ago)
― jel -- (jel), Wednesday, 31 August 2005 15:18 (twenty years ago)
― RickyT (RickyT), Wednesday, 31 August 2005 15:18 (twenty years ago)
The new Motorola ROKR (pronounced "Rocker") is available in the following markets:
- U.S. - today, exclusively with Cingular- U.K. - expected to be available first with Carphone Warehouse in mid-September and with O2, Orange, Virgin Mobile, BT Mobile and other top retailers by late September- France - expected to be available by late September through key retailers- Italy - expected to be available by late September through key retailers- Canada - expected to be available in mid- to late-September with Rogers Wireless- Hong Kong - expected to be available by late September through multiple retail outlets and operator channels- Australia, Singapore and the Philippines - expected to be available late September through early October through retail and operator channels- Argentina, Brazil, Mexico and other markets throughout the world - expected to be available in the fourth quarter
http://www.mobiledia.com/news/35870.html
― James Mitchell (James Mitchell), Wednesday, 7 September 2005 16:00 (twenty years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 7 September 2005 16:03 (twenty years ago)
Despite that demurral, Zander couldn't completely hold his tongue. “I think it’s going to be big,” he said, indicating that songs will be able to be downloaded into the phone from PCs but the major feature of music video playback won’t be available until later. Moreover, the rights and royalties to videos are a looming hurdle that needs to be overcome.
http://www.crn.com/sections/breakingnews/dailyarchives.jhtml?articleId=170701147
― James Mitchell (James Mitchell), Wednesday, 7 September 2005 16:09 (twenty years ago)
― stet (stet), Wednesday, 7 September 2005 16:14 (twenty years ago)
― Ed (dali), Wednesday, 7 September 2005 16:14 (twenty years ago)
― James Mitchell (James Mitchell), Wednesday, 7 September 2005 16:14 (twenty years ago)
― walter kranz (walterkranz), Wednesday, 7 September 2005 16:16 (twenty years ago)
― Ed (dali), Wednesday, 7 September 2005 16:16 (twenty years ago)
k750ihttp://www.sonyericsson.com/k750/
Walkman 800 phonehttp://www.sonyericsson.com/w800/mainpage.aspx
― gygax! (gygax!), Wednesday, 7 September 2005 16:20 (twenty years ago)
― jed_ (jed), Wednesday, 7 September 2005 16:21 (twenty years ago)
this won't be it.
― grimly fiendish (grimlord), Wednesday, 7 September 2005 16:23 (twenty years ago)
http://www.gizmodo.com/gadgets/iSpoof6.jpg
― James Mitchell (James Mitchell), Wednesday, 7 September 2005 16:24 (twenty years ago)
(If they could get iTunes onto the nokia 9300 that would have me sold)
― Ed (dali), Wednesday, 7 September 2005 16:24 (twenty years ago)
― stet (stet), Wednesday, 7 September 2005 16:28 (twenty years ago)
― jed_ (jed), Wednesday, 7 September 2005 16:29 (twenty years ago)
― stet (stet), Wednesday, 7 September 2005 16:30 (twenty years ago)
― jed_ (jed), Wednesday, 7 September 2005 16:32 (twenty years ago)
Madonna and other musicians are also being tapped to shill the new ROKR in an advertising campaign set to begin later this week, showing them in a phone booth out in the desert.
http://www.macworld.com/news/2005/09/07/special/index.php
― James Mitchell (James Mitchell), Wednesday, 7 September 2005 16:37 (twenty years ago)
― Ed (dali), Wednesday, 7 September 2005 17:03 (twenty years ago)
― retort pouch (retort pouch), Wednesday, 7 September 2005 17:04 (twenty years ago)
― milozauckerman (miloaukerman), Wednesday, 7 September 2005 17:04 (twenty years ago)
Jobs calls the iPod nano "an entirely new ground-up design, that also has 1000 songs in your pocket." The white device features a color display and can support photos, uses a grey click wheel to navigate, and is 80 percent smaller in volume than the original iPod -- thinner than a number two pencil, said Jobs. The iPod nano weighs 1.5 ounces or 42 grams.
Compared to the iPod mini, the iPod nano is half the thickness and 62 percent smaller by volume. It uses a 30-pin dock connector, so the iPod nano plugs in to existing iPod accessories, and can also connect using USB 2.0. It features a 14-hour rechargeable battery. It achieves its small size by eschewing a hard disk drive in favor of flash memory.
The iPod nano also features a new graphical clock, games, stopwatch and lap timer, and a screen lock that uses the click wheel like a combination lock.
"White is our signature color for the iPod ... but we decided to so a second color, and we tried it because it looked so cool," said Jobs, "so we're doing a black model as well."
The iPod nano ships today in 2GB and 4GB configurations for US$199 and $249 respectively. Apple is also offering customized iPod nano accessories including a $29 dock, $39 lanyard with built-in headphones, color-coordinated armbands for $29 each, and "nanotubes" -- green, purple, blue and pink slipcases, sold in boxes of five, for $29 each.
The event ended with R&B star Kanye West performing his hit songs "All Falls Down" and "Gold Digger" for the crowd. He thanked Jobs for allowing him to perform, and added, "Thank you for making my life much easier. I remember when I had tapes."
― Fushigina Blobby: Blobania no Kiki (ex machina), Wednesday, 7 September 2005 17:19 (twenty years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 7 September 2005 17:20 (twenty years ago)
― milozauckerman (miloaukerman), Wednesday, 7 September 2005 17:27 (twenty years ago)
― Ed (dali), Wednesday, 7 September 2005 17:28 (twenty years ago)
iTunes 5!
― Fushigina Blobby: Blobania no Kiki (ex machina), Wednesday, 7 September 2005 17:29 (twenty years ago)
― Fushigina Blobby: Blobania no Kiki (ex machina), Wednesday, 7 September 2005 17:30 (twenty years ago)
Abandon all hope ye who enter one of those...
― Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Wednesday, 7 September 2005 17:48 (twenty years ago)
― Ed (dali), Wednesday, 7 September 2005 17:50 (twenty years ago)
― Ed (dali), Wednesday, 7 September 2005 17:52 (twenty years ago)
― Fushigina Blobby: Blobania no Kiki (ex machina), Wednesday, 7 September 2005 18:12 (twenty years ago)
Amen.
http://images.apple.com/home/2005/images/ipodnanohand20050907.jpg
Tasty...
― rogermexico (rogermexico), Wednesday, 7 September 2005 18:42 (twenty years ago)
― Ed (dali), Wednesday, 7 September 2005 18:44 (twenty years ago)
― Ed (dali), Wednesday, 7 September 2005 18:46 (twenty years ago)
― rogermexico (rogermexico), Wednesday, 7 September 2005 19:04 (twenty years ago)
― Bryan (Bryan), Wednesday, 7 September 2005 19:10 (twenty years ago)
― Casuistry (Chris P), Wednesday, 7 September 2005 19:11 (twenty years ago)
― grimly fiendish (grimlord), Wednesday, 7 September 2005 19:14 (twenty years ago)
without HDs?!
― milozauckerman (miloaukerman), Wednesday, 7 September 2005 19:25 (twenty years ago)
― Ed (dali), Wednesday, 7 September 2005 19:50 (twenty years ago)
The nano is sweet ... and it's high time they made a tiny laptop as well.
That phone though, jesus it's awful.
― stet (stet), Wednesday, 7 September 2005 19:55 (twenty years ago)
now that would be cool. however: given the misery we have with one of our iPod shuffles (it frequently forgets everything that's on it, except, oddly, "i believe in you" by kylie; it seems to be something to do with switching users while it's plugged in), i'm not sure i'd trust anything important to flash memory.
i'm just downloading iTunes 5 now. the phone looks pish, but i've not explored the website yet.
― grimly fiendish (grimlord), Wednesday, 7 September 2005 20:08 (twenty years ago)
Looks a lot like Tiger Mail; but you are right there hasn't been a human interface standard from apple for years and they used to be so good at that.
― Ed (dali), Wednesday, 7 September 2005 20:15 (twenty years ago)
― jed_ (jed), Wednesday, 7 September 2005 20:21 (twenty years ago)
apart from that ... er, it's iTunes. only now import preferences are "advanced", apparently.
i've never downloaded a podcast in my life (partly because "podcast" sounds like a euphemism for jism). looking at the directory, though, i see there's radio 4 stuff ... am i missing out on a whole world of current affairs and entertainment made easy? or is it, as i suspect, a big ol' gimmick?
― grimly fiendish (grimlord), Wednesday, 7 September 2005 20:22 (twenty years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 7 September 2005 20:23 (twenty years ago)
AARRGGH. I'm excited about the tri(quad?)-band GSM (thank you to whoever put that on there), but I really hope that they do something like the Razr, where you can pay $200 more or so to get a "special editition" (aka unlocked) one. I'd happily pay that much to avoid Cingular. I might be better off just duct-taping my shuffle onto my t68 anyway, though. :-P
― lyra (lyra), Wednesday, 7 September 2005 20:29 (twenty years ago)
tell me more...
i so, so want a nano already, although i guess i should wait until after xmas or something. although i wonder how much they are in canada (i'm there next week)? hmmm... i don't really need one though, it's not like i really find the mini too big.
― toby (tsg20), Wednesday, 7 September 2005 20:38 (twenty years ago)
― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Wednesday, 7 September 2005 20:42 (twenty years ago)
jesus! there's thousands of 'em. god damn.
a google for "podcast recommendations" brings up, heh, an ILM thread as the second hit. one day. for now, i'm off to me kip.
o wow, "in the aeroplane over the sea" is on iTunes. perhaps i should buy it.
― grimly fiendish (grimlord), Wednesday, 7 September 2005 20:58 (twenty years ago)
All you could possibly want to know can be found...
At Xin's site - supermacro is the only model currently shipping. though supermini is teh cool:http://www.fixup.net/products/macro/index.htmhttp://www.fixup.net/products/pktamp/smini.htm
Or at head-fi: www.head-fi.org
― rogermexico (rogermexico), Wednesday, 7 September 2005 21:25 (twenty years ago)
The w800 is coming to the states though
― Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Wednesday, 7 September 2005 23:26 (twenty years ago)
― James Mitchell (James Mitchell), Thursday, 8 September 2005 00:51 (twenty years ago)
― Mary (Mary), Thursday, 8 September 2005 00:59 (twenty years ago)
― milozauckerman (miloaukerman), Thursday, 8 September 2005 01:07 (twenty years ago)
They must have a shitload of inventory to get rid of.
― James Mitchell (James Mitchell), Thursday, 8 September 2005 01:12 (twenty years ago)
― s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 8 September 2005 03:23 (twenty years ago)
Seriously. Guh. So ugly.
― Casuistry (Chris P), Thursday, 8 September 2005 03:28 (twenty years ago)
What I've read is that the w800 does not use GSM 850, which is the preferred band here. Also, with Cingular selling this (inferior) iTunes ROKR (like the PRML SCRM-ness of the name though), they might not offer the w800 due to marketing arrangements with Apple. The w800 can do up to a 2GB memory stick (comes with 512 and a 1GB stick isn't that expensive), has a 2MP camera, reportedly 30 hours of battery life and no iTunes which makes it incredibly appealing (plus it looks great).
― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Thursday, 8 September 2005 03:49 (twenty years ago)
― Ed (dali), Thursday, 8 September 2005 06:00 (twenty years ago)
― Trayce (trayce), Thursday, 8 September 2005 06:49 (twenty years ago)
― Orbit (Orbit), Thursday, 8 September 2005 06:58 (twenty years ago)
― Gravel Puzzleworth (Gregory Henry), Thursday, 8 September 2005 07:06 (twenty years ago)
― Orbit (Orbit), Thursday, 8 September 2005 07:10 (twenty years ago)
― Ed (dali), Thursday, 8 September 2005 07:10 (twenty years ago)
Or play videogames on it. Is Nokia secretly pushing for this too? I still think we're a few years from a phone being the ultimate media toy.
I don't mean to get off-topic but I'm wondering if I should get a Creative Zen next week (20GB) or some smaller Ipod thing that's only 5GB or so. They're roughly the same price. Could someone e-mail me or post their recommendations for mp3 players within the $180-240 area? Is the Ipod's greatest catch its portability and compatability with all sorts of smaller things? I haven't paid attention to these things in the past year so I don't know what's the newest thing.
― Cunga (Cunga), Thursday, 8 September 2005 07:23 (twenty years ago)
― cozen (Cozen), Thursday, 8 September 2005 08:21 (twenty years ago)
on my 10GB I used to just use playlists
which probably took up about 1GB of space
if that
plus I'm sure I can get a friend in america to buy one and send it
so, should be pretty cheap too
― cozen (Cozen), Thursday, 8 September 2005 08:22 (twenty years ago)
― Britain's Jauntiest Shepherd (Alan), Thursday, 8 September 2005 08:23 (twenty years ago)
I thought I didn't miss it
then I started commuting
I'm going to buy a nano
: )
― cozen (Cozen), Thursday, 8 September 2005 08:37 (twenty years ago)
― Britain's Jauntiest Shepherd (Alan), Thursday, 8 September 2005 08:39 (twenty years ago)
http://www.apple.com/quicktime/download/standalone.html
― Jarlr'mai (jarlrmai), Thursday, 8 September 2005 08:52 (twenty years ago)
well quite, but it seems everyone on my bus to work is listening to music on their phones already. kids annoyingly play them through the tinny speakers which is fucking annoying
― Britain's Jauntiest Shepherd (Alan), Thursday, 8 September 2005 08:57 (twenty years ago)
I feel very silly now =) thanks Jarl.
― Trayce (trayce), Thursday, 8 September 2005 08:57 (twenty years ago)
the editor of "stuff" magazine is claiming that the rokr has been kept a bit shit storage-wise in order that it doesn't fuck the iPod market. he reckons it could hold wad-loads more, but apple don't want to burn any bridges yet.
personally, i really don't want my phone to be my music device:
1) i like to be able to keep one earphone in, listening to music, when i'm on the mobile2) if you lose/break it, you're doubly fucked3) my iPod lives in a little armoured case and is treated like a fragile gem. my much-loved nokia 7650 has been scratched, dropped several times, hurled across the room and generally abused. it's a phone: phones have it tough.
― grimly fiendish (grimlord), Thursday, 8 September 2005 08:59 (twenty years ago)
― Ed (dali), Thursday, 8 September 2005 10:51 (twenty years ago)
or you could download it here for free (as one of yr free starter albums).
― Jams Murphy (ystrickler), Thursday, 8 September 2005 13:27 (twenty years ago)
MEANWHILE, BACK IN PLANET ITUNES 5:
i've just inserted the new grandaddy CD. and the fucker hoys straight off to the CDDB to get the tracks. I DON'T WANT IT TO DO THAT. AND I CAN'T FIND ANY PREFERENCE TO STOP IT.
fuck that, apple. that's microsoft shit: that whole "oh, we know what you want to do" thing. if i want the tracklisting, i'll get it myself. grrrrrrr.
― grimly fiendish (grimlord), Thursday, 8 September 2005 18:30 (twenty years ago)
― stet (stet), Thursday, 8 September 2005 18:33 (twenty years ago)
there is no preference to stop this. at least, not that i can find.
― grimly fiendish (grimlord), Thursday, 8 September 2005 18:34 (twenty years ago)
― Rock Hardy (Rock Hardy), Thursday, 8 September 2005 18:38 (twenty years ago)
― Ed (dali), Thursday, 8 September 2005 18:39 (twenty years ago)
― stet (stet), Thursday, 8 September 2005 18:40 (twenty years ago)
― Rock Hardy (Rock Hardy), Thursday, 8 September 2005 18:45 (twenty years ago)
er, only if you reduce everything to ridiculous oppositional binaries (eg "shall i punch stet in the bolls" v "shall i do absolutely anything other than punch stet in the bolls"). when i insert a CD, iTunes is actively going off to the CDDB. i want it to passively "do nothing". i don't see how that's an either/or.
(god. the philosophy of iTunes.)
― grimly fiendish (grimlord), Thursday, 8 September 2005 18:58 (twenty years ago)
― stet (stet), Thursday, 8 September 2005 19:02 (twenty years ago)
― biz, Thursday, 8 September 2005 19:06 (twenty years ago)
― grimly fiendish (grimlord), Thursday, 8 September 2005 19:07 (twenty years ago)
― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Thursday, 8 September 2005 19:08 (twenty years ago)
― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Thursday, 8 September 2005 19:13 (twenty years ago)
― milozauckerman (miloaukerman), Thursday, 8 September 2005 19:56 (twenty years ago)
mind, things haven't been the same ever since the "default browser" control panel became, er, part of, umm, safari. fuckers.
― grimly fiendish (grimlord), Thursday, 8 September 2005 23:00 (twenty years ago)