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BUSH'S BOOZE CRISIS, Friday, 23 September 2005 01:01 (twenty years ago)

OH NO! What will we ever do without his sober analysis and cleareyed leadership?

gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Friday, 23 September 2005 01:03 (twenty years ago)

So is every presidency from now on going to wind down in lowbrow melodrama?

Hurting (Hurting), Friday, 23 September 2005 01:15 (twenty years ago)

"from now on"

I'm a Problem for Anthony Blair (noodle vague), Friday, 23 September 2005 01:30 (twenty years ago)

(I meant including the previous one)

Hurting (Hurting), Friday, 23 September 2005 01:38 (twenty years ago)

Maybe this started before Katrina. Maybe the ranch "vacation" was actually for drying out. After all, he did say he wanted to be more "crisp."

Hurting (Hurting), Friday, 23 September 2005 01:39 (twenty years ago)

yeah -- the last 2-term president who didn't have some soap-operaesque melodrama in his 2d term may have been eisenhower (can't remember if he had his heart attach 1st or 2d term, so i could be wrong). otherwise:

dubya: accused by the national enquirer of going back to being a drunk
clinton: got his cock sucked by a presidential groupie/stalker intern
reagan: went senile
nixon: went nuts (haw haw, "went nuts")
LBJ: couldn't/wouldn't do anything wr2 vietnam

Eisbär (llamasfur), Friday, 23 September 2005 01:39 (twenty years ago)

I don't know if LBJ example is exactly "melodrama" but it does have that tragic second act feel.

Hurting (Hurting), Friday, 23 September 2005 01:41 (twenty years ago)

This could almost be planted by the White House, since the gist of it is that he was shocked by what he saw on TV, rather than the reality, which is that he didn't get what was happening until days afterwards and when he finally did, told stories about Trent Lott's house and getting wasted in the French Quarter.

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Friday, 23 September 2005 02:12 (twenty years ago)

Oh right, like this story would really improve people's image of him right now - "See honey, he DOES care!"

Hurting (Hurting), Friday, 23 September 2005 02:18 (twenty years ago)

This could almost be planted by the White House

That's true. It could help him regain his common-man stature. Hey, who hasn't gone off on a bender because of job stress?

gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Friday, 23 September 2005 02:21 (twenty years ago)

what part of "national enquirer" do we not understand?

the happy smile patrol (Jody Beth Rosen), Friday, 23 September 2005 02:26 (twenty years ago)

>what part of "national enquirer" do we not understand?<

Damnit, I was hoping no one had said this yet...then I finally get to the end of the thread.

Alan Conceicao (Alan Conceicao), Friday, 23 September 2005 02:30 (twenty years ago)

what part of "national enquirer" do we not understand?

oh, i understand it quite well -- and i know that they know the ins-and-outs of the defamation laws QUITE well.

which doesn't mean that this story is TRUE -- but that they also know the risks of their line of work.

Eisbär (llamasfur), Friday, 23 September 2005 02:33 (twenty years ago)

Tracer summed up what i was thinking!

Thermo Thinwall (Thermo Thinwall), Friday, 23 September 2005 02:34 (twenty years ago)

Should I post a bunch of links to stories from the Clinton Era that NE printed? Like the Hillary/Bill divorce being imminent. Or Christy Zercher claiming she was assaulted by Bill Clinton. I'm surprised no one revives the thread about Kitty Kelley's book on Bush.

Alan Conceicao (Alan Conceicao), Friday, 23 September 2005 02:39 (twenty years ago)

Jody there are many many parts of the NE that I don't understand, but the main one I do get is the part where they reinforce conservative morals in the most hypocritical way possible.. you don't get "Katrina Makes President Fall Off Wagon" out of thin air, even if the substance of the piece is utterly bogus.. it plays 180 degrees against the public perception of how he reacted to the storm. the story makes him look "good" in a way no other post-Katrina story about him has. But still, in throwing a classic vice into the ring, and a vice Bush pledged to throw away, moreover, it leaves a sliver of room to start vulture-feeding if he the poll numbers dip too much lower.. tabs always play to whoever they think the winners will be, and Bush is starting to smell like a loser

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Friday, 23 September 2005 02:53 (twenty years ago)

i mean, don't think the NE doesn't have about 100,000 stories coughed up to them over the years from former down-their-luck "business associates" (gilded cokeheads) and college roommates, which stories the NE has been sitting on out of patriotic and political fealty

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Friday, 23 September 2005 02:55 (twenty years ago)

Jody there are many many parts of the NE that I don't understand, but the main one I do get is the part where they reinforce conservative morals in the most hypocritical way possible

yup... but that's what their readership reacts to. a "gwyneth paltrow is quitting acting to go feed starving children" rumor wouldn't make NE headlines, but a celebrity with a substance abuse problem never fails to, no matter how much of a non-shockah it is.

the happy smile patrol (Jody Beth Rosen), Friday, 23 September 2005 02:57 (twenty years ago)

I like that, when you open this thread and it is at the top of new answers, the BUSH'S BOOZE CRISIS, of the thread's title, becomes another BUSH'S BOOZE CRISIS, in the question, at exactly the same place on the screen

RJG (RJG), Friday, 23 September 2005 03:01 (twenty years ago)

you could get away with the gwyneth story if you put it like "Guilty Gwynnie loses head: Shouldn't Gwyneth be paying attention to her OWN problems? 1) boyfriend must think he's second fiddle to africans gwyneth doesn't even know 2) she could use a little meat on her own bones if you ask me 3) etc"

RJG there was another thread that did that, once. it was several years ago.

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Friday, 23 September 2005 03:05 (twenty years ago)

there has probably been more than one.

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Friday, 23 September 2005 03:05 (twenty years ago)

two, i mean.

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Friday, 23 September 2005 03:07 (twenty years ago)

it's past your bedtime, mister

Rob Bolton (Rob Bolton), Friday, 23 September 2005 03:12 (twenty years ago)

I like that, when you open this thread and it is at the top of new answers, the BUSH'S BOOZE CRISIS, of the thread's title, becomes another BUSH'S BOOZE CRISIS, in the question, at exactly the same place on the screen

-- RJG (RJ...), September 23rd, 2005.

Whoa! Back. Forward. Back. Forward.

Whoa!

Hurting (Hurting), Friday, 23 September 2005 03:16 (twenty years ago)

whether it's bullshit or not... people seem to be talking about it. like letterman was joking about it. not only that, letterman was laying into W like crazy. dude, it was free for all.

the other way to spin the "bush is a real man" thing is... bush got so loaded after hearing the news that he was in a stupor for a couple days before he realized he needed to get off his ass and actually do something.

seriously... you hear something shitty and you say, "fuck, i need a drink." you get a drink. but THEN, you get off your ass and do something ASAP. the drink is for the courage to actually do what you've gotta do. not sit on your ass for a few days while shit gets even worse.

eh. bush's got senioritis anyway. when's president skips day again?
m.

msp (mspa), Friday, 23 September 2005 04:10 (twenty years ago)

Whoa! Back. Forward. Back. Forward.

Whoa!

Back, and to the left. BACK, and to the left. BACK, and to THE LEFT.

I'm not a conservative by any means, but if I were, I'd love nothing more than to see a bunch of liberals NAME DROPPING THE NATIONAL FUCKING ENQUIRER.

Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Friday, 23 September 2005 04:36 (twenty years ago)

hehe. true.
m.

msp (mspa), Friday, 23 September 2005 04:42 (twenty years ago)

I'd love nothing more than to see a bunch of liberals NAME DROPPING THE NATIONAL FUCKING ENQUIRER.

yeah, that was my thing. it's like, schadenfreude & all is fun, but consider the friggin' source. Yeah, they did the Monica thing, and the Genifer Flowers thing, and the Limbaugh on drugs thing, but still...

still, who else wants to bet that this whole thing is a plant?

kingfish superman ice cream (kingfish 2.0), Friday, 23 September 2005 04:57 (twenty years ago)

I don't know, plots are fun and Karl Rove is evil and whatever, but I don't think any presidential adviser in history has ever thought, "I know! We'll plant the story that the president is turning to booze at a time of national crisis!" Call me occam's razor, but I kinda doubt anyone in the White House is rubbing their hands going, "Bwahaha! Bush's Booze Crisis is blared across every supermarket check-our line in America! Our plan is working!"

gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Friday, 23 September 2005 05:05 (twenty years ago)

(or "check-out line," even)

gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Friday, 23 September 2005 05:06 (twenty years ago)

I agree with occam's.

estela (estela), Friday, 23 September 2005 05:12 (twenty years ago)

Whether the National Enquirer is reporting the truth or made this story up, it seems significant that the Enquirer, which somewhat represents the POV of the lumpen masses, seems happy to shove the prez into the figurative gutter, as a weak-willed boozer who's on the verge of totally losing it.

Aimless (Aimless), Friday, 23 September 2005 05:38 (twenty years ago)

and the best bit is that we still have 3 years left of the guy

kingfish superman ice cream (kingfish 2.0), Friday, 23 September 2005 05:55 (twenty years ago)

Unleash (hic) Chang!

gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Friday, 23 September 2005 06:09 (twenty years ago)

hahaha

estela (estela), Friday, 23 September 2005 06:09 (twenty years ago)

...Age 26 in 1972, he reportedly rounded off a night's boozing with his 16-year-old brother Marvin by challenging his father to a fight.

...and after a brief "extraordinary rendition," he was ready to report back to the National Guard as commanded.

Seriously, this story's credibility is questionable. What's not questionable is that, meanwhile, Senate Republicans are fixing campaign finance laws to give incumbents an 8-1 spending advantage over challengers, slipped into a transportation spending bill which includes emergency spending for relief from Hurricane Katrina...

The Fix Is In

viborgu, Friday, 23 September 2005 06:45 (twenty years ago)

Welcome to the machine. We really are living in an era of utterly shameless graft and corruption, aren't we? We've legalized bribery to such an extent that it's like almost no one even bothers to point it out any more. Everybody's on the take, we throw out no-bid contracts left and right, people leave government and are immediately hired by the industries they were just regulating or writing laws about, and everyone just sort of shrugs and says, "Well, you know, politicians." For a country that professes an immense skepticism and distrust of government, we sure are sitting awfully still and placid for the fleecing. It's what I don't understand about so-called conservatives, how they can be outraged about tiny monthly checks to feed poor children but can somehow pretend that the outright looting of the public treasury is a function of "the marketplace."

gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Friday, 23 September 2005 06:58 (twenty years ago)

Everybody had their hands out. Everything was for the taking.

kingfish superman ice cream (kingfish 2.0), Friday, 23 September 2005 13:46 (twenty years ago)

http://www.thepoorman.net/2005/09/23/would-it-be-irresponsible-to-speculate-about-bushs-relapse-into-alcoholism/

Here’s my point: would it be great fun to get some real proof that Saint George was drinking on the job? Tremendous fun. Hours of fun for the whole family, without a doubt. But, like extra-marital blow jobs from mildly attractive interns, while frowned upon, just not a very big deal in the grand scheme of things. There are worse things than drinking, and he’s already done most of them....

kingfish superman ice cream (kingfish 2.0), Friday, 23 September 2005 19:47 (twenty years ago)

but the main one I do get is the part where they reinforce conservative morals in the most hypocritical way possible

I'm not doubting any greater scheme here, but if this is the best they can come up with.. well, wow, I mean... when the only way to help a president out is fabricate an alcohol binge, how low can you go?

(Bass!)

donut Get Behind Me Carbon Dioxide (donut), Friday, 23 September 2005 21:22 (twenty years ago)

http://www.facets.org/Images/lower%20depths.jpg

SPARTACUS TWATTERY (I AM LOGGED ON), Friday, 23 September 2005 21:24 (twenty years ago)

this actually made me a little sad and I hope it's
not true. Alcoholism really really sucks and my issues with Bush
aside, I thought it was cool that we could have a president who
acknowledged that he'd had a drinking problem.

teeny (teeny), Friday, 23 September 2005 21:39 (twenty years ago)

oh, i understand it quite well -- and i know that they know the ins-and-outs of the defamation laws QUITE well.

as i understand those laws, it would be virtually impossible for a president to sue anyone for libel, so they're on pretty safe territory with a story like this whether their sources are reliable or not.

J.D. (Justyn Dillingham), Saturday, 24 September 2005 05:40 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, considering that Jerry Falwell was on TV all the time in the '90s hawking videotapes that accused Bill Clinton of orchestrating murders, you can pretty well say what you want about the Chief Exec. Which is a good thing, too, and if for nothing more than keeping that right alive by exercising it, I salute the good people at American Media. The right to call the president a drunk is an important one.

gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Saturday, 24 September 2005 06:04 (twenty years ago)

Should I post a bunch of links to stories from the Clinton Era that NE printed? Like the Hillary/Bill divorce being imminent. Or Christy Zercher claiming she was assaulted by Bill Clinton. I'm surprised no one revives the thread about Kitty Kelley's book on Bush.

No stupid see Clinton made the economy "work" back in the 90s while Bush doesn't care about black people you obviously have got a lot to learn about American politics because of this Clinton forever wins and Bush loses (but steals the win nevertheless through the Supreme Court right guys!?1!)

Jody there are many many parts of the NE that I don't understand, but the main one I do get is the part where they reinforce conservative morals in the most hypocritical way possible..

It is incredibly odd how their non-celebrity articles read like "feel good" 700 Club segments about middle-American life. I think it's populism more than anything. You're already slamming the "elites" in every other article so you might as well score some more points with the Common People™ who dance drink screw because there's nothing else...etc
For what it's worth, the people I've talked to who've had articles done by the NE say the Enquirer actually does 5x as much fact checking as mainstream publications who've done similar stories. At this point they know the importance of watching their hides, I'm sure.

Cunga (Cunga), Saturday, 24 September 2005 06:59 (twenty years ago)

what's the old line? "extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence"?

kingfish superman ice cream (kingfish 2.0), Saturday, 24 September 2005 14:16 (twenty years ago)

No, 'with great power comes great responsibility.' Then a guy died.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 24 September 2005 14:33 (twenty years ago)

what, again?

kingfish superman ice cream (kingfish 2.0), Saturday, 24 September 2005 14:42 (twenty years ago)


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