Toledo Nazi riot

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― donut hallivallerieburtonelli omg lol (donut), Sunday, 16 October 2005 06:26 (twenty years ago)

A fucking set up.

― Dan I. (Dan I.), Sunday, 16 October 2005 07:12 (twenty years ago)

listed as "RACE RIOT BREAKS OUT IN TOLEDO..." on Drudge, shockingly

― kingfish neopolitan sundae (kingfish 2.0), Sunday, 16 October 2005 07:50 (twenty years ago)

i hate ohio nazis!

― J.D. (Justyn Dillingham), Sunday, 16 October 2005 09:03 (twenty years ago)

Good band name.

― Nöödle Vägue (noodle vague), Sunday, 16 October 2005 10:49 (twenty years ago)

The NSM promotes itself as America's Nazi Party

Trust no others!!

― mickey raft (mickeygraft), Sunday, 16 October 2005 10:59 (twenty years ago)

International Socialists throwing eggs at National Socialists! I still love the semantics of that particular divide.

― nabiscothingy, Sunday, 16 October 2005 17:47 (twenty years ago)

I'm never sure what to think about this sort of thing (and see also European laws about inciting racial hatred, etc.) In pragmatic terms the mayor is right: it's genuinely better for everyone to ignore all hell out of Nazi marches, it's better for the entire nation to let them talk and discredit themselves, it's better to accommodate them and not let them feel like martyrs, etc. On some kind of philosophical terms, though ... if you're, say, black or Jewish, there's something about certain public Nazi actions that kind of amounts to a threat cast in your direction, an act of intimidation or assault or terror -- and there's something a little strange about asking people to quietly ignore and accept that. This is the sense in which I have some sympathy for those European laws. We can't punish speech, yes, but various white supremacists are always kinda testing the lines of where speech becomes an act in itself (e.g. cross-burning). And while there'd be no benefit whatsoever to trying to change that or restrict speech -- it would really only benefit extreme groups -- there's something philosophically off about that. There are plenty of other situations in which we understand how speech can constitute threat (we'd bend all protections when the issue was terrorism), and if the situation were reversed -- if a bunch of Crips wanted to run a demonstration through Orange County -- ...

― nabiscothingy, Sunday, 16 October 2005 17:59 (twenty years ago)

heh. i wonder what Crips placards & protest signs would say...

― kingfish neopolitan sundae (kingfish 2.0), Sunday, 16 October 2005 18:47 (twenty years ago)

Good band name.

-- Nöödle Vägue (noodle_vagu...), October 16th, 2005.

Ha! My thoughts exactly.

― Hurting (Hurting), Sunday, 16 October 2005 18:50 (twenty years ago)

Stupid and distasteful it may be, but it's still their right to protest/march and Toledo did not adequately protect that right. Had it been an FOI march with Farrakhan at the front, I'd gather the responses would be different - despite the fact that his views are also distasteful. What is amusing to me is that the headlines on virtually every story makes it appear that the neo-nazis were somehow involved in the riots when in fact they were long gone and their parade was cancelled. Somehow that reads less nicely than "Toledo residents burn own businesses in response to planned march" which is far more accurate. That amuses me just slightly more than how rioters in economically depressed areas inevitably burn businesses in their OWN areas which only hurt them in the long-run.

― Lovelace (Lovelace), Sunday, 16 October 2005 22:26 (twenty years ago)

Tomorrow, you're homeless
Tonight, it's a blast!

― kingfish neopolitan sundae (kingfish 2.0), Sunday, 16 October 2005 22:59 (twenty years ago)

it amuses you, lovelace? what is amusing about that situation?

― s1ocki (slutsky), Sunday, 16 October 2005 23:00 (twenty years ago)

ignorance. stupidity.

please, please, please do not try to defend the rioters.

― Lovelace (Lovelace), Sunday, 16 October 2005 23:12 (twenty years ago)

Did you see the stylish kids in the riot?

― Can't stand me now, Sunday, 16 October 2005 23:22 (twenty years ago)

heh. i wonder what Crips placards & protest signs would say...

NO OIL FOR BLOODS

― disco violence (disco violence), Monday, 17 October 2005 00:55 (twenty years ago)

i still don't see what's so amusing about it

― s1ocki (slutsky), Monday, 17 October 2005 16:28 (twenty years ago)

slocki, if nazis get uppity, its clearly a very humorous producers-style situation

― strng hlkngtn: what does it mean? (dubplatestyle), Monday, 17 October 2005 16:29 (twenty years ago)

I keep reading the title of this thread to the tune of "Atari Teenage Riot".

― The Ghost of Black Elegance (Dan Perry), Monday, 17 October 2005 16:31 (twenty years ago)

i hope those blacks didn't get to my nazi friends

― holy toledo!, Monday, 17 October 2005 16:32 (twenty years ago)

i keep approaching ways to turn this into a 800 post thread and then slowly backing away

― _, Monday, 17 October 2005 16:33 (twenty years ago)

lovelace gave you a pretty good opening there

― s1ocki (slutsky), Monday, 17 October 2005 16:35 (twenty years ago)

WHAT DID YOU SAY?????

WHAT? DID? YOU? SAY???

TOLEDO! NAZI! RIOT!

― The Ghost of Hoover Hoover Guitar (Dan Perry), Monday, 17 October 2005 16:41 (twenty years ago)

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