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fucking hell:

http://mail.google.com/mail/help/intl/en-GB/googlemail.html

bastards.

― grimly fiendish (grimlord), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 07:41 (twenty years ago)

will this mean we have to actually do anything? i mean, the addy will still be g-g-g-g-gmail, right?

― Enrique (Enrique), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 07:44 (twenty years ago)

not necessarily. they deal with that in the lower reaches of that page.

i mean, i'm pretty sure it will, but ...

bastards!

― grimly fiendish (grimlord), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 07:45 (twenty years ago)

but surely my gmail address is now a COLLECTOR'S ITEM? It's like the Dasani of the email world.

― Matt (Matt), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 07:47 (twenty years ago)

time for ganstamail

― ken c (ken c), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 07:47 (twenty years ago)

Argh! If I'd known about this yesterday I might have used my 100 invites to set up as many gmail addresses as I could think of.

― Mädchen (Madchen), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 07:47 (twenty years ago)

So, it seems that "gmail" might have to change to "Googlemail" for my addy in the future. That's a drag.

― mark grout (mark grout), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 07:51 (twenty years ago)

U&K: HOW WILL THIS AFFECT THE STATS COCK?

― Mädchen (Madchen), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 07:53 (twenty years ago)

What if you said in your profile you're located in the US? Then you could still use gmail, no?

― nathalie, a bum like you (stevie nixed), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 07:53 (twenty years ago)

So, it seems that "gmail" might have to change to "Googlemail" for my addy in the future. That's a drag.
-- mark grout (mark.grou...), October 19th, 2005

no, if you have gmail, it stays gmail. *new* ones will be googlemail.

― Enrique (Enrique), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 07:57 (twenty years ago)

i have four gmail accounts.

― Enrique (Enrique), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 07:58 (twenty years ago)

What if I'm a UK user who already has a Gmail address? Will I also need to change that address?
No, this change doesn’t affect existing Gmail addresses. For now, our plan is only to issue @googlemail.com addresses to new users. Trust that we will do the best we can to offer all our users a reliable and consistent email experience.

― Mädchen (Madchen), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 08:00 (twenty years ago)

much as i hate to back the evil corporate giant, step off u poxy uk gmail hand-out seekers, i want my gmail to stay gmail.

― Enrique (Enrique), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 08:02 (twenty years ago)

some fule stoled my [email protected], cunter.

― Enrique (Enrique), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 08:06 (twenty years ago)

which makes it complex cos now there's a [email protected] [me] and a [email protected] [some fule]. and both log in through the same page.

― Enrique (Enrique), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 08:10 (twenty years ago)

and when you log in you just do my.name plus password, not the suffix.

― Enrique (Enrique), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 08:11 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, I need to get a googlemail address for my name n'all, to thwart the only other Matt Fallaize in the world (I'm kicking him all over google, as currently stands). And also to stop the confusing situation Enrique currently endures happening to me.

― Matt (Matt), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 08:12 (twenty years ago)

Are you sure they're not regarding it as 'taken' because you have a gmail account in that name? I assume (I hope correctly) that they're reserving the matching googlemail addresses in case they need to transfer UK gmail customers across at some point.

― Mädchen (Madchen), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 08:15 (twenty years ago)

doh of course good thinking i r the fule/

― Enrique (Enrique), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 08:16 (twenty years ago)

Just checked and mine isn't available either so that must be it, I reckon.

― Mädchen (Madchen), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 08:18 (twenty years ago)

Well, the obvious way to test it is to email [email protected] to see if you receive anything, no?

― Forest Pines (ForestPines), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 08:30 (twenty years ago)

is this just affecting UK users of gmail? sorry to be dumb i have drunk a bottle of wine.

― rainy (rainy), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 08:32 (twenty years ago)

This is the 'potential' drag of it:

What if I'm a UK user who already has a Gmail address? Will that address ever change?
Unfortunately, we don't know. We would love to say that your address will always remain the same. But the trademark issue is still unsettled, and unfortunately, we cannot predict what the other party or the courts might do here. You can always use your same username with an @googlemail.com address to avoid this issue later on. But trust that we will do the best we can to make sure your email address won't ever have to change.

What if I'm a UK user who already has a Gmail address? Will I also need to change that address?
No, this change doesn’t affect existing Gmail addresses. For now, our plan is only to issue @googlemail.com addresses to new users. Trust that we will do the best we can to offer all our users a reliable and consistent email experience.

― mark grout (mark grout), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 08:33 (twenty years ago)

You can always use your same username with an @googlemail.com address to avoid this issue later on. But trust that we will do the best we can to make sure your email address won't ever have to change.

i did what forest pines said and it worked, so g/googlemail are WRONG.

― Enrique (Enrique), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 08:35 (twenty years ago)

no, only new uk users won't have gmail.com addresses.

― ken c (ken c), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 08:39 (twenty years ago)

that's the only change so far. existing people won't be affected

― ken c (ken c), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 08:40 (twenty years ago)

... for the time being.

― Mädchen (Madchen), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 08:44 (twenty years ago)

yes.

― ken c (ken c), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 08:45 (twenty years ago)

i'm just testing this now... registered [email protected]

emailing to both [email protected] and [email protected] now.

― ken c (ken c), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 08:46 (twenty years ago)

neither have gotten through yet

― ken c (ken c), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 08:46 (twenty years ago)

existing people won't be affected

so only fictional people? giggles and points at all the trolls here.

― nathalie, a bum like you (stevie nixed), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 08:46 (twenty years ago)

my email addy is [email protected], i emailed [email protected], which i never registered, and i received it as normal at my gmail account. so there we are.

― Enrique (Enrique), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 08:47 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, that worked for me too. I discovered recently that emails where the sender has mistakenly added or omitted the dot in the first part will still get through as well.

― Mädchen (Madchen), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 08:49 (twenty years ago)

[email protected]

― ken c (ken c), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 08:50 (twenty years ago)

ok, even new uk users are fine

both [email protected] and [email protected] work

― ken c (ken c), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 08:51 (twenty years ago)

also.. i noticed in my original gmail account, my "trash" folder is called "trash".. whereas this one is called "deleted items"

must be a UK english thing?

― ken c (ken c), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 08:52 (twenty years ago)

it is, ken, yes. and very daft it is too.

my problem with this is that "at geemail dot com" sounds kinda cool. "at googlemail dot com" sounds jizz.

still, that's what you get when you place all your faith in a service that's not even out of beta testing yet :)

― grimly fiendish (grimlord), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 08:54 (twenty years ago)

they should call it jizzmail

― ken c (ken c), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 08:55 (twenty years ago)

I read an article recently that noted that gmail's internationalisation isn't done very well: new features generally only appear if you use the American English settings.

― Forest Pines (ForestPines), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 08:56 (twenty years ago)

is there already a premium email service called fee-mail? if not i'm so starting this.

― ken c (ken c), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 08:57 (twenty years ago)

bah, domain names taken

― ken c (ken c), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 09:00 (twenty years ago)

I am disappointed that they didn't call it rubbish instead of trash.

― RickyT (RickyT), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 09:02 (twenty years ago)

I have yet to type @googlemail.com without first typing @gogomai Delete Delete Delete Delete Delete

― Mädchen (Madchen), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 09:53 (twenty years ago)

It appears they have trademark infringement issues in Germany too. And I've found other boards discussing this as far back as July! Not like ilx to be so far behind :)

― Mädchen (Madchen), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 09:58 (twenty years ago)

google have fucked this one up royally, haven't they? smug wankers. i'm going off them rapidly.

― grimly fiendish (grimlord), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 10:08 (twenty years ago)

eh wot, you wot? How is this their fault?

I really should have started using an email address at my own domain tho. Sigh. Who owns this UK trademark then? Is it those utter CHOPS who set up some tedious business service back in the 90s?

― stet (stet), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 11:30 (twenty years ago)

it's google's fault because they bashed in there without bothering to check whether anyone owned that name in different territories, then refused to cough up (i mean: you can hardly blame the people who own "Gmail" in the UK for wanting a bob or two) ... and now we're the ones who might end up suffering with pishy "at googlemayildotcodotukay" suffixes and looking like big knobs.

― grimly fiendish (grimlord), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 12:07 (twenty years ago)

dotcom

― Mädchen (Madchen), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 12:09 (twenty years ago)

[email protected] ... i'd settle for that.

― grimly fiendish (grimlord), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 12:10 (twenty years ago)

if they own gmail.com I don't understand why they'd be on the losing end. I don't understand other countries' copyright laws (or US ones, frankly)

― kyle (akmonday), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 12:13 (twenty years ago)

Skipping 14 messages at this point... Click here if you want to load them all.

had

― Mädchen (Madchen), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 13:13 (twenty years ago)

more info:

http://news.ft.com/cms/s/8b5a8080-4106-11da-b3f9-00000e2511c8.html

― CharlieNo4 (Charlie), Thursday, 20 October 2005 09:26 (twenty years ago)

after some thought i realised that goomail would be the best name for it.

― ken c (ken c), Thursday, 20 October 2005 09:32 (twenty years ago)

My dad and sister use the term "goomail" all the time! Like "Drop me a goomail if you need anything".

― melton mowbray (adr), Thursday, 20 October 2005 09:46 (twenty years ago)

see!

― ken c (ken c), Thursday, 20 October 2005 09:46 (twenty years ago)

So how do I make google think I'm based in the us?

― mei (mei), Thursday, 20 October 2005 11:39 (twenty years ago)

put more words with the letter z in your emails.

― ken c (ken c), Thursday, 20 October 2005 11:41 (twenty years ago)

Or change the spell checker to English (US).

― Mädchen (Madchen), Thursday, 20 October 2005 11:46 (twenty years ago)

but my spell checker is english US, and it's still offering only googlemail.com addresses

― Vicky (Vicky), Thursday, 20 October 2005 11:48 (twenty years ago)

zame difference

xpost

― ken c (ken c), Thursday, 20 October 2005 11:48 (twenty years ago)

Can they not tell by your service provider?

― Vicky (Vicky), Thursday, 20 October 2005 11:48 (twenty years ago)

most of the time (like the BBC webcasts). it's not always reliable though.

― ken c (ken c), Thursday, 20 October 2005 11:54 (twenty years ago)

Sorry V, that was a crap joke. They should be able to work it out from your - I think this might be the correct term - IP address. You can do things to disguise yourself, can't you?

― Mädchen (Madchen), Thursday, 20 October 2005 11:58 (twenty years ago)

oh, I'm not having a good month, so it passed me by

It'll be interesting to see what they make of my sister, who started off in the uk but now lives in the us. I shall ask her when I see her on sunday

― Vicky (Vicky), Thursday, 20 October 2005 12:05 (twenty years ago)

I note that gheemail.com is still available.

― Alba (Alba), Thursday, 20 October 2005 17:56 (twenty years ago)

google thinks I am CANADIAN!

― jw (ex machina), Thursday, 20 October 2005 17:58 (twenty years ago)

This is sort of off subject, but I don't understand why Google doesn't register separate domains for different countries. Why must we all be gmail.com? Why no gmail.ca? gmail.de? .uk, .lt, .lv, .se, .dk, .no, .hu, .tv, .cl, etc etc etc. Imagine how much better this would be for usernames. Would you rather be [email protected], or [email protected]?

― Mickey (modestmickey), Thursday, 20 October 2005 20:32 (twenty years ago)

google thinks I am CANADIAN!

you're NOT?

― grimly fiendish (grimlord), Thursday, 20 October 2005 21:05 (twenty years ago)

it's fucking down now anyway, fucking free service, fuck you!

― kyle (akmonday), Friday, 21 October 2005 05:11 (twenty years ago)

six months pass...

i only just found out that i can use google mail from my mobile phone, am i just way behind the times on technology or is it a fairly unique thing?

nobody on hotmail i know has ever mentioned it before.

― Ste (Fuzzy), Thursday, 4 May 2006 14:12 (twenty years ago)

I was able to use yahoo email on my phone in 2002, but it cost so much to access the internet, and it took so long to respond to e-mails, that I gave up bothering.

― Teh HoBBler (the pirate king), Thursday, 4 May 2006 16:29 (twenty years ago)

I just tried to send a program to a friend using my gmail account and it wouldn't send it because it was an executable.

That means that I CAN'T use googlemail as my only account. Retards.

― mei (mei), Thursday, 4 May 2006 17:44 (twenty years ago)

hi have u heard of ZIP

― TOMBOT (TOMBOT), Thursday, 4 May 2006 19:02 (twenty years ago)

RARRRR!!!

― JW (ex machina), Thursday, 4 May 2006 19:24 (twenty years ago)

Huh -- this thread pops up, and then, for the first time in my history as a gmail user, I can't get into my account.

Not that 20 minutes down in two years of use is really so bad, but it's irritating me no end -- I need something in there!

― nabisco (nabisco), Thursday, 4 May 2006 19:40 (twenty years ago)

http://wizardishungry.com/no/gmail.jpg

― JW (ex machina), Thursday, 4 May 2006 19:43 (twenty years ago)

Did nobody razz you about the Pfork bookmark? I for one am all in favor of it.

― nabisco (nabisco), Thursday, 4 May 2006 19:57 (twenty years ago)

five years pass...

hilarious. All the spam adverts I keep getting at the top of my spam mail folder are adverts for spam:

Creamy Spam Broccoli Casserole - Makes 8 servings
Delete all spam messages now (messages that have been in Spam more than 30 days will be automatically deleted)

― owenf, Wednesday, 2 November 2011 12:49 (fourteen years ago)

I always find them funny.

Gmail is really good... Google get a lot of bad press for some of their other dud products, but Gmail keeps delivering the goods.

― The New Dirty Vicar, Wednesday, 2 November 2011 12:58 (fourteen years ago)

you like the new look?

― Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Wednesday, 2 November 2011 13:02 (fourteen years ago)

no, i have no fucking idea where anything is anymore and it looks like butt

― a hoy hoy, Wednesday, 2 November 2011 13:11 (fourteen years ago)

big fan of the new, better, conversation view.

― stet, Wednesday, 2 November 2011 13:13 (fourteen years ago)

you got to change the new look to 'compact' view really

― owenf, Wednesday, 2 November 2011 13:14 (fourteen years ago)

big fan of the new, better, conversation view.

― stet, Wednesday, 2 November 2011 13:13 (1 minute ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

tbf yeah i like this

― a hoy hoy, Wednesday, 2 November 2011 13:15 (fourteen years ago)

I found myself wondering the other day how I could download a few hundred old messages if I wanted to keep non-cloud copies ... any ideas about this?

― Brad C., Wednesday, 2 November 2011 13:15 (fourteen years ago)

gspace app on firefox might be able to?

― occupy wall street 2: rummy never sleeps (darraghmac), Wednesday, 2 November 2011 13:16 (fourteen years ago)

big fan of the new, better, conversation view.

'cause you see the first line of the messages? that's good. losing the colour coding is bad.

― ceci n'est pas un nom d'affichage (ledge), Wednesday, 2 November 2011 14:17 (fourteen years ago)

you got to change the new look to 'compact' view really

― owenf, Wednesday, November 2, 2011 8:14 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark

yeah what they default you to is pretty awful.

― very public (bnw), Wednesday, 2 November 2011 14:21 (fourteen years ago)

how I could download a few hundred old messages if I wanted to keep non-cloud copies

http://www.gmail-backup.com

― mookieproof, Wednesday, 2 November 2011 14:28 (fourteen years ago)

it makes me feel precious but i miss my neatly decorated/personally backgrounded theme, i had it the way i liked it

― Abattoir Educator / Slaughterman (schlump), Wednesday, 2 November 2011 14:32 (fourteen years ago)

you like the new look?

no new look for me!

I am waiting, however, for some stupid upgrade to Gmail to mean that it is no longer accessible on the antediluvian web browsers we use at work.

― The New Dirty Vicar, Wednesday, 2 November 2011 15:37 (fourteen years ago)

It doesn't work in IE7. It looks OK, but clicking on the subject lines doesn't open the messages.

― James Mitchell, Wednesday, 2 November 2011 17:08 (fourteen years ago)

Yeah, the new look is too big. Even using the the compact view, it looks like something that is too big squished down small. It's looked roughly the same for the last 7 years and I see no reason to change it so drastically.

Also, I'm a curmudgeon who hates change.

― Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 2 November 2011 17:13 (fourteen years ago)

It works for me just because I'm already used to Google Plus, I guess. Though I'll be using mail a hell of a lot more...

― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 2 November 2011 17:15 (fourteen years ago)

oh cryptic neddo

― turkey in the straw (x2) (remy bean), Wednesday, 2 November 2011 17:23 (fourteen years ago)

lol there is no appreciable difference between the old and new look for me

― he carried yellow flowers (DJP), Wednesday, 2 November 2011 19:00 (fourteen years ago)

^^^

― Agyness Dei (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 2 November 2011 19:01 (fourteen years ago)

dammit why doesn't reader have a compact view

or does it and i can't find it

― goole, Wednesday, 2 November 2011 19:03 (fourteen years ago)

it doesn't (yet), but this greasemonkey script helps a fair bit

― mookieproof, Wednesday, 2 November 2011 19:11 (fourteen years ago)

they got rid of followers and comments in reader too, i think.

― goole, Wednesday, 2 November 2011 19:12 (fourteen years ago)

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