1. Why do you call your private schools "public schools"?
2. Cricket.
Rugby is fast paced and contains enough brutal violence to keep anyone interested. Football (soccer), when played properly, can be beautiful to watch. On the other hand, NOTHING seems to ever happen in Cricket, and to compound the agony they drag that nothing over the course of an entire day and sometimes 3 or 5!
3. Marmite.
Who first thought of this vile mess and why do people eat it? In a related aside to the Aussies, Vegemite is foul too.
4. The use of specific foods or drinks to indicate meals or courses. For example: "What would you like for tea?", and "pudding" in place of "dessert". This is more than just a little confusing.
5. National and Political divisions
The country's full name is "The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland". However, when you meat someone from the UK, they tend to identify themselves as being Welsh, Scottish or English first; rarely ever British. Furthermore, while Great Britain sends one team to the Olympics, England, Northern Ireland, Scotland and Wales all have their own national football (soccer) teams. What gives?
― J-rock (Julien Sandiford), Thursday, 27 October 2005 00:55 (twenty years ago)
― Hurting (Hurting), Thursday, 27 October 2005 00:58 (twenty years ago)
― knife (nordicskilla), Thursday, 27 October 2005 01:02 (twenty years ago)
― knife (nordicskilla), Thursday, 27 October 2005 01:03 (twenty years ago)
― salexander / sofia (salexander), Thursday, 27 October 2005 03:16 (twenty years ago)
― wombatX (wombatX), Thursday, 27 October 2005 03:32 (twenty years ago)
― wombatX (wombatX), Thursday, 27 October 2005 03:42 (twenty years ago)
― terry lennox. (gareth), Thursday, 27 October 2005 05:19 (twenty years ago)
as for english people, well, as i said, they are likely to use english/british interchangeably.
i would like to dress like i am in dickens!
― terry lennox. (gareth), Thursday, 27 October 2005 05:24 (twenty years ago)
― Mädchen (Madchen), Thursday, 27 October 2005 05:58 (twenty years ago)
people who don't like vegemite simply aren't applying the correct amount. it's not bloody jam, don't spread it like it is.
― vacuum cleaner (electricsound), Thursday, 27 October 2005 06:01 (twenty years ago)
― Mädchen (Madchen), Thursday, 27 October 2005 06:10 (twenty years ago)
2) It has the tactics of chess and a great deal of grace and subtlety when played well.
3) By product of the brewin industry. What shall we do with this waste yeast? oh we'll boil it up with some salt and flog it. (Entrepreneurial thrift, vegemite is a waste of good vegetables)
4) Why the hell not. Naming meals or courses after the most common things eaten or drank in them at some point, sheer madness I tell you.
5) 1 country, 4 nations, 4 (at least) national identities. As for sports the IOC recognises Britain, FIFA gives special consideration to the 'Home Nations' because they invented 'Association Football'. Britain keeps it this way so it gets 4 votes in FIFA decisions. Another anomoly are that in Rugby there is an All-Ireland team and no NI team (unless you count Ulster which is a subset of Ireland, playing in the Celtic League). This is not unique, the Faroe Islands are danish but they get their own national team.
― Ed (dali), Thursday, 27 October 2005 06:36 (twenty years ago)
(one is Donegal; I can't remember the other)
― Forest Pines (ForestPines), Thursday, 27 October 2005 06:46 (twenty years ago)
(x-post)
― Bob Six (bobbysix), Thursday, 27 October 2005 06:47 (twenty years ago)
you ignorant arse drools
― ESTEBAN BUTTEZ~!!, Thursday, 27 October 2005 07:09 (twenty years ago)
― Chewshabadoo (Chewshabadoo), Thursday, 27 October 2005 07:48 (twenty years ago)
― g-kit (g-kit), Thursday, 27 October 2005 07:54 (twenty years ago)
While you've got the book down read 'In Defence of English Cooking', 'The Moon Under Water', 'The Lion and the Unicorn' etc etc & more of the mysteries of this funny little pissstain of an island will be explained.
― bham, Thursday, 27 October 2005 08:15 (twenty years ago)
When they are all out, the side that's out comes in and the side that's been in goes out and tries to get those coming in, out. Sometimes you get men still in and not out.
When a man goes out to go in, the men who are out try to get him out, and when he is out he goes in and the next man in goes out and goes in. There are two men called umpires who stay all out all the time and they decide when the men who are in are out.
When both sides have been in and all the men have been out, and both sides have been out twice after all the men have been in, including those who are not out, that is the end of the game. See?
― C J (C J), Thursday, 27 October 2005 08:17 (twenty years ago)
― bidfurd__, Thursday, 27 October 2005 08:17 (twenty years ago)
― jel -- (jel), Thursday, 27 October 2005 08:18 (twenty years ago)
― The Ignorant American, Thursday, 27 October 2005 08:26 (twenty years ago)
― Mädchen (Madchen), Thursday, 27 October 2005 08:30 (twenty years ago)
5) In football it has been a hard fight, to retain separate teams for the four UK nations. As well as historical reasons, there was the fact that administratively football was run completely separately in NI and Scotland, with their own authorities and leagues. The odd one out was Wales, where its clubs were part of the English structure. To maintain the distinction, Wales set up its own authorities and league - but the teams at a professional level in England still play in England.
'Fag' and 'bumming' can have those meanings here too, they are just secondary ones so need clarifying by context.
Cricket could have been okay if they had decided to play it for a sane length of time. It is surely not much less inherently action-packed than baseball.
― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Thursday, 27 October 2005 09:08 (twenty years ago)
― Chewshabadoo (Chewshabadoo), Thursday, 27 October 2005 09:12 (twenty years ago)
Actually Wales is a principality and Northern Ireland is a province, so only England and Scotland are nations.
― Hello Sunshine (Hello Sunshine), Thursday, 27 October 2005 09:25 (twenty years ago)
― The Lex (The Lex), Thursday, 27 October 2005 09:30 (twenty years ago)
― Hello Sunshine (Hello Sunshine), Thursday, 27 October 2005 09:32 (twenty years ago)
― salexander / sofia (salexander), Thursday, 27 October 2005 09:37 (twenty years ago)
I Love Marmite - HomepageArticles and FAQ about Marmite from a devoted fan who also directs Marmite haters to appropriate information. www.ilovemarmite.com
― salexander / sofia (salexander), Thursday, 27 October 2005 09:39 (twenty years ago)
Still nations whatever their monarchichal designation. although it ould be argued that NI is a fragment of a nation.
― Ed (dali), Thursday, 27 October 2005 09:51 (twenty years ago)
― melton mowbray (adr), Thursday, 27 October 2005 10:02 (twenty years ago)
― salexander / sofia (salexander), Thursday, 27 October 2005 10:03 (twenty years ago)
― Markelby (Mark C), Thursday, 27 October 2005 10:09 (twenty years ago)
― Ed (dali), Thursday, 27 October 2005 10:09 (twenty years ago)
― Hello Sunshine (Hello Sunshine), Thursday, 27 October 2005 10:13 (twenty years ago)
― Mädchen (Madchen), Thursday, 27 October 2005 10:18 (twenty years ago)
In fact there are three in the Republic - Cavan, Monaghan and Donegal - making nine in all.
I thought you were only supposed to spread Marmite on toast and not make a drink out of it? Can't stand the stuff. Promite is the only way forward.
― accentmonkey (accentmonkey), Thursday, 27 October 2005 10:20 (twenty years ago)
You forgot your pie.
― aldo_cowpat (aldo_cowpat), Thursday, 27 October 2005 10:38 (twenty years ago)
― g-kit (g-kit), Thursday, 27 October 2005 10:40 (twenty years ago)
The only people who conflate Englishness with Britishness are neither (or Southerners, who don't count as most of them are practically French!). "I'm British by birth and English by the Grace of God!"
― Stone Monkey (Stone Monkey), Thursday, 27 October 2005 10:43 (twenty years ago)
― Ed (dali), Thursday, 27 October 2005 11:15 (twenty years ago)
― when something smacks of something (dave225.3), Thursday, 27 October 2005 11:26 (twenty years ago)
Not for the last year or so. It is now yeast waste. With Salt. YUM!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bovril
― Chewshabadoo (Chewshabadoo), Thursday, 27 October 2005 13:12 (twenty years ago)
― Dr. C (Dr. C), Thursday, 27 October 2005 13:17 (twenty years ago)
Football is far better than any other sport. The deal with cricket is not to think of it as a sport, but as a way of passing the time while sitting in the sun. Rugby is terrible - just a load of fat blokes running into each other.
There is NOTHING in the world superior to marmite on toast for breakfast.
The 'tea' thing is tricky, and is kind of related to social class / north-south divide. Some people have breakfast,lunch,dinner others have breakfast,dinner,tea. The 'pudding' thing is simple - that's the name of the meal, and some puddings happen to have the word pudding in their name (though, confusingly, some non-puddings have the word pudding in their name, eg Yorkshire Pudding). The word 'dessert' is only used in restaurants.
The Britain thing is tricky. Very tricky. When I have to enter my country on a drop-down menu it takes me forever to find it, because I keep forgetting the name of it (I don't think I ever use the words 'United Kingdom', so I keep looking under England, or Britain, or Great Britain until eventually I remember).
― Teh HoBB (the pirate king), Thursday, 27 October 2005 13:33 (twenty years ago)
This is rubbish and a typical uninformed view. The only positions where you might be able to get away with being fat, at any level, are in the front row. That's 3 positions out of 15. And those guys are not really fat, they're usually incredibly fit and powerful. In fact the great thing about rugby is that it is a game for all shapes and sizes. I would agree that in the pro-game the backs are beginning to look like forwards, but at grass roots level you'll get 10-stone scrum halves and wingers.
― Dr. C (Dr. C), Thursday, 27 October 2005 14:14 (twenty years ago)
We have four teams at football because we invented it, then the next others were the nearest countries to us. When FIFA formed, they didn't want to piss us all off by urging us all to merge. The Olympics were invented by the French, so they were proper and correct about having us in as the UK.
― Dave B (daveb), Thursday, 27 October 2005 14:24 (twenty years ago)
― Markelby (Mark C), Thursday, 27 October 2005 14:30 (twenty years ago)
― Teh HoBB (the pirate king), Thursday, 27 October 2005 14:38 (twenty years ago)
― Mädchen (Madchen), Thursday, 27 October 2005 15:18 (twenty years ago)
I'll settle for : "Rugby league is terrible - just a load of blokes running into each other"
League is pants - ALL the best bits taken out - rucks, mauls, scrums, lineouts! And when they get tackled they just....stop.
― Dr. C (Dr. C), Thursday, 27 October 2005 15:30 (twenty years ago)
i hate the fact that in school, you have to play the games of the old colonial upper class, instead of the game of the people. so outdated
― terry lennox. (gareth), Thursday, 27 October 2005 15:34 (twenty years ago)
When I was in school, we had to do just about every sport ever invented; or, at least, it felt that way.
― Forest Pines (ForestPines), Thursday, 27 October 2005 16:38 (twenty years ago)
Darts?
― Hello Sunshine (Hello Sunshine), Thursday, 27 October 2005 16:44 (twenty years ago)
― Forest Pines (ForestPines), Thursday, 27 October 2005 16:45 (twenty years ago)
― Hello Sunshine (Hello Sunshine), Thursday, 27 October 2005 16:49 (twenty years ago)
By a strange twist of fate all the male PE teachers at my comprehensive were Welsh, and they insisted that we played Rugby instead of football. Obviously this wasn't very popular, and it can't have been much fun for them either because none of us seemed capable of learning the rules, even after three years of it. Maybe this was some kind of reverse colonialism - the Welsh imposing their sport on Essex as revenge for centuries of oppression.
― Teh HoBB (the pirate king), Thursday, 27 October 2005 17:46 (twenty years ago)
― Mädchen (Madchen), Thursday, 27 October 2005 20:23 (twenty years ago)
http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/h2g2/A61345
― wombatX (wombatX), Thursday, 27 October 2005 21:51 (twenty years ago)
They DO stop at the tackle, (unless they pass out of the tackle. Everything stops while they heel it back and then go again. Until the sixth tackle, then they kick. Yawn.
― Dr. C (Dr. C), Friday, 28 October 2005 07:14 (twenty years ago)
― Mädchen (Madchen), Friday, 28 October 2005 07:31 (twenty years ago)
― Dr. C (Dr. C), Friday, 28 October 2005 08:14 (twenty years ago)
You saucy wench!
― Markelby (Mark C), Friday, 28 October 2005 09:21 (twenty years ago)
Mark - I have very little experience of RL players but the one I did 'experience' was unable to keep going for long off the field. Cue Dr. C telling us how great RU players are in this department.
― Mädchen (Madchen), Friday, 28 October 2005 10:31 (twenty years ago)
You've just answered the question yourself, that's exactly WHY cricket
english people use english and british interchangeably, as though they are the same thing
So do most people who aren't Scottish, Welsh or Northern Irish. Britain's a redundant concept anyway.
Dear Britons: Since "bumming a fag" means borrowing a cigarette in your culture what do you say when you want to have anal sex with a homosexual?
Depends which Conservative Shadow Minister you intending having sex with
― Oh No, It's Dadaismus (Dada), Friday, 28 October 2005 10:46 (twenty years ago)