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i want to get a cd writer. can anyone give me some advice/help? i want to burn the mp3s on my parents computer on to cd

gareth, Thursday, 3 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

what kind of puter do they have? you can buy a decent cd burner for under 200$ these days

mike hanle y, Friday, 4 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

i'm not entirely sure, its a PC not mac, but its not that new, are there any big requirements i need to consider?

gareth, Friday, 4 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

not really. i'm sure some geek will insist you look for models that use a TEAC drive or some bollocks. no all you really need to consider is the write speed, but i'm not even sure that there's even much price diff on that these days.

Alan Trewartha, Friday, 4 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Sorry to revive this thread only to steer it in another direction, but I've got a bit of a puzzle regarding extracting and burning CD audio and I wondered if any of you folks could help.

I can't for the life of me work out a way to handle tracks on CDs which run seamlessly together. I have Adaptec Easy CD and Exact Audio Copy on my PC, but, regardless of the options I set, they always seem to insist on shoving a block of silence into the end of the extracted WAV file. EAC even offers an 'Extract Range' option, which one would think ideal for dealing with such material (simply select a range from 5 seconds before the track to 5 seconds after the track, and apply your own fades in CoolEdit or GoldWave), but no - the end result is the same: a dirty great gap at the end of the track.

I even have problems when creating an image file from such material (for example, a continuous [but indexed] 74-minute field-recording CD) for the purposes of copying the whole disc. Write the resultant file Disk-At-Once (to avoid the 2-second inter-track gaps TAO would insert) and I end up with a CD containing occasional glitches at track boundaries and a bloody great click right at the end.

Burner is an internal Samsung SW-212 (12x8x32), if that's any help.

Michael Jones, Tuesday, 8 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Michael, I use Nero burning rom and haven't had any problems. You may find a solution at CD FAQ.

Billy Dods, Tuesday, 8 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

sounds like some default you haven't set, unless this is v cheap software that doesn't give you the option. on Adaptec's Toast you can set the gap between tracks, including 0 secs.

Alan Trewartha, Tuesday, 8 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

The CD-R FAQ is something I've bookmarked for a while, but thanks for the reminder. Section [3-26] had something interesting to say on the subject of splitting up large WAV files for CD-burning - essentially, if the splitting isn't done at precise 2352-byte boundaries, glitches can occur. I suspect this may be the problem with the attempted DAO field recording copies - the original CD-R was produced on a Plextor burner attached to my Akai HD-recorder, and some of the index marks I introduced may not be at these boundaries.

As for the extraction software, Adaptec Easy CD Creator 4.02 is just the PC version of Toast, AFAIK and EAC is some kind of de facto standard in the industry for precise extraction (but it requires a fairly laborious set-up procedure which I may have mucked up). Easy CD doesn't offer much in the way of options upon extraction; under the 'Advanced' section you get two check-boxes: "Remove digital silence at end of track" and "Merge contiguous tracks into one file". No combination of these options circumvents my problem. Although I can see (from my CD player display) that there's clearly no pre-gap on these tracks (i.e. Index00 and Index01 are coincident), the extraction software seems to think there is, and mutes 2.5sec of the file.

Michael Jones, Tuesday, 8 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

how much RAM will i need?

gareth, Friday, 18 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

one year passes...
revise

i want to burn cds

i don't know if i should get an internal or external thingy?

i have a mac powerbook g3 bought in the dark ages of '99

do i need usb or something?

i would like the whole operation to cost ~$100

Mary (Mary), Monday, 31 March 2003 01:26 (twenty-one years ago) link

nine months pass...
revise again

I am going external. Choices are USB or firewall. (I don't have firewall.)

I have a 2 USB ports, but apparently I need USB 2.0.

Do you think I have USB 2.0?

Mary (Mary), Friday, 9 January 2004 15:04 (twenty years ago) link

You mean firewire. Do you have a mac or a windows machine? If you have a windows machine and it's older than a year or so you probably don't have USB2.0. You can buy a firewire/usb2.0 card for $60 though from compusa.

anthony kyle monday (akmonday), Friday, 9 January 2004 18:48 (twenty years ago) link

laptop or desktop? windows or mac? we need to know!

Dale the Titled (cprek), Friday, 9 January 2004 18:50 (twenty years ago) link

If you don't have USB 2.0 or firewire, the transfer between the computer and CD burner will be HORRIBLY SLOW!

Dale the Titled (cprek), Friday, 9 January 2004 18:51 (twenty years ago) link

sigh yes yes first things first i'm a spastic, ok so now when i try to drag mp3 files into the little cd-r box in adaptec easy cd creator it sez that the file has an "unrecognized file extension: valid extension is .WAV" er now these r standard mp3s off p2ps etc so what do i do now? i just want to live a normal life

prima fassy (bob), Friday, 9 January 2004 20:43 (twenty years ago) link

Are you creating a music CD? You have to be creating a data CD or else it won't work (I don't think) with MP3s.

Bryan (Bryan), Friday, 9 January 2004 21:05 (twenty years ago) link

if you're making a music cd, you have to convert the mp3s to wavs. some programs will do it for you, others won't. you can use winamp to convert them and most other mp3 players.

dean! (deangulberry), Friday, 9 January 2004 21:11 (twenty years ago) link

yes good idea, i will mess around with winamp for a bit and report back

prima fassy (bob), Friday, 9 January 2004 23:06 (twenty years ago) link

mwah! mwah! cracked it, thanks ever so much. this page was just the thing: http://www.audiotoolsdirect.com/winamp.shtml

is there a way to configure this procedure automatically, or get it to convert entire playlists at once? or will i have to keep duplicating? see i thought adaptec was fairly popular (came with this computer anyway), are there perhaps any other cd writer set up programs i can download or are they intrinsic to the cd-r hardware? again, thnx

prima fassy (bob), Friday, 9 January 2004 23:21 (twenty years ago) link

oh blimey ok it converts whole playlists by itself, i see. woo look at it go

prima fassy (bob), Friday, 9 January 2004 23:24 (twenty years ago) link

I have a Mac Powerbook G3 bought in '99. It has 2 USB ports.

No firewire.

I hear USB is slow anyway, so maybe it won't matter if I don't have 2.0?

What about if I mainly want to create mix CDs, using CDs I already have? Will that be horribly slow as well?

Mary (Mary), Friday, 9 January 2004 23:42 (twenty years ago) link

Do you think I have USB 2.0?

Highly unscientific googling indicates that if, like mine, yours runs OS 9, USB 2.0 devices won't work as 2.0 devices alone, but Firewire will be compatible. Except maybe something like this lets you get 2.0 from a non-2.0 system?

(Not that I have any idea what I'm talking about.)

gabbneb (gabbneb), Friday, 9 January 2004 23:58 (twenty years ago) link

does your powerbook have scsi? Mine did. In that case, you could get an external scsi drive although maybe that would be expensive.

anthony kyle monday (akmonday), Saturday, 10 January 2004 00:03 (twenty years ago) link

It does have scsi but I'd like to be as cheap as possible.

I have 8.6. Do you have 9 you could lend me, Gab? Someone can lend me 10, but I need 9 to go to 10.

Mary (Mary), Saturday, 10 January 2004 00:06 (twenty years ago) link

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gabbneb (gabbneb), Saturday, 10 January 2004 00:19 (twenty years ago) link

I don't do the lending thing (and am not sure I have the OS anyway), sorry. If I decide to buy a CD recorder, which I've started thinking about for the same purpose, you could use it?

gabbneb (gabbneb), Saturday, 10 January 2004 00:28 (twenty years ago) link

After I install OSX I will be ready to buy. But there are conflicting reports. What is a good external device for the Mac? This iomega one looked like it would match my computer, but I read user reports that said people had problems with it. Lacie seems to get good reports from Mac users, but doesn't color coordinate with my Mac. What say you? Experience/advice? Other options?

Mary (Mary), Sunday, 18 January 2004 06:28 (twenty years ago) link

I am ready to buy now and have decided on Lacie. But a dilemna remains.

Should it be firewire Lacie or USB 2.0 Lacie?

I have USB 1.0 so could save money and not have to buy a pc card and then if it was too slow I could buy a usb pc card.

Or, I could get the firewall pc card right off the bat to go with the firewall drive.

Which would be more useful in the long run, to have a firewire card or a usb card?

Also, how slow would it be on 1.0?

Also, I have 333mhz and I think the system requirements call for 350. Will I be ok?

Mary (Mary), Thursday, 22 January 2004 07:51 (twenty years ago) link

I bought a combo USB 2.0 and firewire card at Fry's for $40, which was as cheap as any single-type card I saw elsewhere. USB 2.0 is faster than firewire (480 million bits per second vs. 400 Mbps). USB 1.1 is 12 Mbps so you will likely find it too slow, especially if you're filling CDs. I'd go with the combo card and the USB burner, in case you get a firewire device in the future (camcorders seem more likely to use this than USB 2.0).

nickn (nickn), Thursday, 22 January 2004 08:30 (twenty years ago) link

My advice was based on you owning a PC, by the way (since you said pc card) but looking upthread it seems you have a Mac. The combo card I mentioned says it can be put into Macs but won't give USB 2.0 performance unless you have OS X 10.1. It's a D-Link DFB-A5 PCI card.

nickn (nickn), Thursday, 22 January 2004 08:37 (twenty years ago) link

I have decided to go for the ethernet. Assuming I fix my other computer woes, which of these similarly priced Lacie drives should I get?

This one:

http://www.jandr.com/JRProductPage.process?RestartFlow=t&Section_Id=1&Product_Id=3953876

Or this one: (which is the one they sell at the Apple store)

http://www.jandr.com/JRProductPage.process?RestartFlow=t&Section_Id=1&Product_Id=3674954

Mary (Mary), Saturday, 31 January 2004 01:37 (twenty years ago) link

option one, its cheaper.

Ed (dali), Saturday, 31 January 2004 03:53 (twenty years ago) link

two weeks pass...
I got the Lacie firewire Porsche CD.RW plus the Unibrain firewire notebook card at Tekserve today, with design help from Carey. I burned my first CD with no problem at all, so I recommend the above.

Mary (Mary), Sunday, 15 February 2004 09:25 (twenty years ago) link


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