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...whatever it turns out to be. Speech starts in an hour.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 10 January 2006 16:02 (twenty years ago)

They're not going to do yet another newfangled product launch, are they?

― kingfish pibb Xtra (kingfish 2.0), Tuesday, 10 January 2006 16:04 (twenty years ago)

Leaked excerpt:

All girls all over the world,
original Mad Stuntman pon ya case man!
I love how all girls a move them body,
and when ya move ya body, and move it,
nice and sweet and sexy, alright!

Woman ya cute, and you don't need no make up,
original cute body you a mek man mud up. (x2)

Woman! Physically fit, physically fit,
physically, physically, physically fit
Woman! Physically fit, physically fit,
physically, physically, physically fit
Woman! Ya nice, sweet, fantastic
Big ship on de ocean that a big titanic
Woman! Ya nice, sweet energetic
Big ship on de ocean that a big titanic
Woman! Ya nice, sweet, fantastic
Big ship on de ocean that a big titanic
Woman! Ya nice, sweet, fantastic
Big ship on de ocean that a big titanic

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Tuesday, 10 January 2006 16:05 (twenty years ago)

This is dangerous. For the first time, I have a decent paying job, easy access to credit cards, and an innate weakness to Apple hardware. I am doomed...

(Hoping for a new Intel Mac Mini, and, well, my iBook G4 is looking a bit slow in comparison with my sister's Dell, even if it is much shinier)

― carson dial (carson dial), Tuesday, 10 January 2006 16:07 (twenty years ago)

Live updates.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 10 January 2006 17:06 (twenty years ago)

9:07 am Audience clapping, lights dimming
9:05 am "Program about to begin"
9:01 am Please turn off your cell phones...
8:55 am People are taking their seats....

exciting stuff!

― adamrl (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 10 January 2006 17:07 (twenty years ago)

It's even more exciting when you consider he made time go backwards!

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 10 January 2006 17:09 (twenty years ago)

one BILLION dollars MWAHHAHAHAHA

― Britain's Obtusest Shepherd (Alan), Tuesday, 10 January 2006 17:10 (twenty years ago)

did you already organise a sweep on the "and if i just pull this out of my ass..." bit?

― Britain's Obtusest Shepherd (Alan), Tuesday, 10 January 2006 17:10 (twenty years ago)

If they introduce an intel-based laptop, that shit's going to be reaaaly tempting to me.

― Df'nM (OutDatWay), Tuesday, 10 January 2006 17:11 (twenty years ago)

Where in SF is this taking place? Shall I pop over and ask?

― adamrl (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 10 January 2006 17:12 (twenty years ago)

my bet is on intel-laptops mid year and an intel mini RIGHT NOW on the (currently closed) apple store

― Britain's Obtusest Shepherd (Alan), Tuesday, 10 January 2006 17:12 (twenty years ago)

10 million ipods sold before 2005, 32 million sold in 2005.

― Britain's Obtusest Shepherd (Alan), Tuesday, 10 January 2006 17:13 (twenty years ago)

http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/7923/page01047full6wg.jpg

― James Mitchell (James Mitchell), Tuesday, 10 January 2006 17:15 (twenty years ago)

850 million songs sold. 3 million songs a day are being sold. Over 1 billion songs per year rate. 83% market share.

― James Mitchell (James Mitchell), Tuesday, 10 January 2006 17:15 (twenty years ago)

And old Saturday Night Live episodes are yours for the downloading.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 10 January 2006 17:16 (twenty years ago)

Coneheads!

― James Mitchell (James Mitchell), Tuesday, 10 January 2006 17:17 (twenty years ago)

Remote control with FM tuner accessory for iPods, $49.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 10 January 2006 17:18 (twenty years ago)

small time gadetry so far...

― Jimmy Mod (I myself am lethal at 100 -110dB) (The Famous Jimmy Mod), Tuesday, 10 January 2006 17:19 (twenty years ago)

iPod+Jeep= lame

― Jimmy Mod (I myself am lethal at 100 -110dB) (The Famous Jimmy Mod), Tuesday, 10 January 2006 17:19 (twenty years ago)

where's the beef

― Britain's Obtusest Shepherd (Alan), Tuesday, 10 January 2006 17:20 (twenty years ago)

(seriously?)

― Jimmy Mod (I myself am lethal at 100 -110dB) (The Famous Jimmy Mod), Tuesday, 10 January 2006 17:20 (twenty years ago)

About to appear, methinks.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 10 January 2006 17:21 (twenty years ago)

9:19 am Now to the Mac, which is what the rest of the keynote is about... (applause)

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 10 January 2006 17:21 (twenty years ago)

Supposedly it's going to be...

15" intel Macbook - order tomorrow, ships Feb (thinner, dual core)
iPod FM receiver
iWork/Life '06
New remote of some type
Photocasting (iPhoto)
OS X.4.4 w/new widgets

― Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Tuesday, 10 January 2006 17:21 (twenty years ago)

stoopid expensive aperture. rubbish. get on with it jobs

― Britain's Obtusest Shepherd (Alan), Tuesday, 10 January 2006 17:22 (twenty years ago)

Now if only I had a pirated Nikon d200 to go with a pirated copy of Aperture

― Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Tuesday, 10 January 2006 17:24 (twenty years ago)

Oh hell I always said I'd consider getting an ipod if it had a radio. There goes hundreds of pounds I can't afford

― beanz (beanz), Tuesday, 10 January 2006 17:25 (twenty years ago)

Widgets... BAH. Because we really needed "Desk Accessories"

― Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Tuesday, 10 January 2006 17:25 (twenty years ago)

widgets. dullness cubed

― Britain's Obtusest Shepherd (Alan), Tuesday, 10 January 2006 17:25 (twenty years ago)

oh great 10.4.4, just as i'm finishing the 10.4.3 image to roll out

― Britain's Obtusest Shepherd (Alan), Tuesday, 10 January 2006 17:27 (twenty years ago)

Will mail in 10.4.4 run IMAP any better? *snicker*

― Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Tuesday, 10 January 2006 17:27 (twenty years ago)

"Photocasting (iPhoto)"

Oooh, what is this?

Widgets can kiss my phat arse.

― Nathalie (stevie nixed), Tuesday, 10 January 2006 17:27 (twenty years ago)

*checks watch; taps foot*

― Jimmy Mod (I myself am lethal at 100 -110dB) (The Famous Jimmy Mod), Tuesday, 10 January 2006 17:28 (twenty years ago)

Hooray, a Google widget! Because Google was so difficult to access without a widget...

― Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Tuesday, 10 January 2006 17:28 (twenty years ago)

I kinda like mixing up the Jobsnote audio with the video from the Alito hearings...

― Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Tuesday, 10 January 2006 17:29 (twenty years ago)

what is giant?

(i do IMAP on mail with exchange server and it's ok - no access to server side stuff, but that's not IMAP anyway is it?)

― Britain's Obtusest Shepherd (Alan), Tuesday, 10 January 2006 17:29 (twenty years ago)

xpost

i smell a mashup

― Jimmy Mod (I myself am lethal at 100 -110dB) (The Famous Jimmy Mod), Tuesday, 10 January 2006 17:30 (twenty years ago)

Meanwhile, AAPL just jumped .5

― Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Tuesday, 10 January 2006 17:30 (twenty years ago)

it seems apple has done nothing to convince me that IPhoto isn't a shit program...

― Jimmy Mod (I myself am lethal at 100 -110dB) (The Famous Jimmy Mod), Tuesday, 10 January 2006 17:31 (twenty years ago)

i do IMAP on mail with exchange server and it's ok - no access to server side stuff, but that's not IMAP anyway is it?)

Hmmm... I'm using it with a WU imap installation on a Red Hat 9 box and it wants to re-sync for inexplicable reasons. Admittedly, I haven't sat down with the server to tune it in awhile.

― Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Tuesday, 10 January 2006 17:32 (twenty years ago)

(oh hands up, i had to to do ONE simple hack to stop it going through all the public folders all the time)

― Britain's Obtusest Shepherd (Alan), Tuesday, 10 January 2006 17:33 (twenty years ago)

it seems apple has done nothing to convince me that IPhoto isn't a shit program...

iPhoto isn't shit, but it's not that great. This update seems to make it more like Picasa.

― Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Tuesday, 10 January 2006 17:34 (twenty years ago)

(oh hands up, i had to to do ONE simple hack to stop it going through all the public folders all the time)

Really? Clue me in!

― Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Tuesday, 10 January 2006 17:34 (twenty years ago)

Whoope... Share photos over the internet via RSS/.Mac.

Erm, there is this thing called Flickr

― Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Tuesday, 10 January 2006 17:35 (twenty years ago)

I have little patience with apple's building block/consumer programs... like, I'd rather they sprang forth fully formed from Jobs' forehead, etc. I also don't know what to think of aperture, esp at that cost. Esp. wrt how much CS costs and how much more it does... it could easily be an essential program at 1/4 of the price...

― Jimmy Mod (I myself am lethal at 100 -110dB) (The Famous Jimmy Mod), Tuesday, 10 January 2006 17:36 (twenty years ago)

er, there's a full macosxhint on this somwhere, but you just change the permissions on ~/Library/Mail/IMAP-blah-account-suffix/Public Folders to 000 ie no access

― Britain's Obtusest Shepherd (Alan), Tuesday, 10 January 2006 17:37 (twenty years ago)

W00t! AAPL up 3.4 now!

― Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Tuesday, 10 January 2006 17:45 (twenty years ago)

3rd party DVD burners supported in iDVD. FINALLY

― Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Tuesday, 10 January 2006 17:48 (twenty years ago)

I want the iLife '06 GarageBand to be able to control fog machines and laser lights

― Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Tuesday, 10 January 2006 17:49 (twenty years ago)

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"Oh christ it's just finished booting up right there. That was only six minutes. Good job we're not trying to produce a daily newspaper or anything, isn't it? I wonder how much work I've just lost".
-- My OS 9-using boss, two minutes ago.

There's nobody mentioning the word "toy" in this entire thread apart from you, TB. So who's reading out of context?

― stet (stet), Wednesday, 11 January 2006 21:13 (twenty years ago)

no Forest they're toys, I've been arguing that all along, can't you read.

― TOMBOT, Wednesday, 11 January 2006 21:14 (twenty years ago)

stet CAN YOU USE A FUCKING FIND COMMAND? IT JUST "WORKS"

― TOMBOT, Wednesday, 11 January 2006 21:15 (twenty years ago)

I'd argue that the non Unix Mac OSes I've experienced (7 and 8) were still better than the equivalent Microsoft product (Win95).

Actually I'm not sure 7 is better than Win95. IIRC it had even lamer networking support.

― GET EQUIPPED WITH BUBBLE LEAD (ex machina), Wednesday, 11 January 2006 21:16 (twenty years ago)

Oh dere christ: can I get a browser that searches for "toy" properly? I missed reading it myself. because SC's post was just a big grey blob shape that I skipped. /shame

xpost. not on this mac here it don't :(

― stet (stet), Wednesday, 11 January 2006 21:16 (twenty years ago)

also grimly fiendish et al. arguing that all this mucking about with the underlying architecture and tossing the baby out with the classic os bathwater is necessary:

some of you I know are computer engineers, so explain why the usability of OS 9 (and apple's supposedly hippie steez of doing things, and letting you innovate on top of their OS without the danger of being made obsolete or forcibly shut out) has to get the heave-ho just because the OS is all of a sudden multi-user and memory is allocated and managed properly?

xpost 7 was/is better than win95, my CS roommate and I had a bake-off to see who could build and upload a web page faster, and I even had to, yes, reboot in the middle.

― TOMBOT, Wednesday, 11 January 2006 21:21 (twenty years ago)

Well, the System 7 and 8 Macs I used were set up on a Netware network, using (as far as I can remember) a Novell-written system extension to give the Mac IPX and NDS support. What it was like out of the box, I don't know.

(for email we used Pegasus Mail, apparently because it was the only cross-platform email program that supported Netware email)

(xxpost)

As someone who, as you know, is used to Linux, where you can bolt a variety of graphical interface programs onto the basic system, I don't see why Apple couldn't have just rewritten the OS 9 interface to work on Darwin. Presumably the only reason is: they didn't want to.

― Forest Pines (ForestPines), Wednesday, 11 January 2006 21:27 (twenty years ago)

The usability went because basically there's very little OS 9 left in OS X, which is really just a new interface on top of NeXTStep. The engineers that made it were run by the people who wrote NeXTStep, which is why they favour doing things the NeXT way -- even when that's demonstrably stupid, like using a microkernel.

the "Finder" as we now know it is the old NeXT file browser, except broken so that both old NeXT people hate it and Mac people hate it. But Avi Tievenan wrote it, and he's head of Software at Apple, so it stays. In his justification, the OS 9 Finder was a heap of mangled code, and it would have taken them years to rewrite it for NeXT.

xpost:

― stet (stet), Wednesday, 11 January 2006 21:32 (twenty years ago)

er, or not.

― stet (stet), Wednesday, 11 January 2006 21:32 (twenty years ago)

so explain why the usability of OS 9 (and apple's supposedly hippie steez of doing things, and letting you innovate on top of their OS without the danger of being made obsolete or forcibly shut out) has to get the heave-ho just because the OS is all of a sudden multi-user and memory is allocated and managed properly?

i'm no engineer, so my layman's acceptance of it followed this pattern, and took about a week or so to basically "get": 1) oh, right, it's unix; 2) unix has its own way of doing things, which is a little alien, involving libraries and paths and stuff being where it expects it to be; 3) ach well, fuck it, if i have to be a little more organised about where i keep my shit then fine. that's the price of progress. i mean, as an end user i'm happier dealing with X's foibles than i am with 9's.

i guess that because i'm not trying to innovate, i've been able to accept a lot more quickly. and i'll admit it took me a little while longer to get my head around networking/the Shared folder/the Public folder/the VAST irritation of not being able to make aliases to files on other machines. (or, rather, the irritation of being able to make them, but then not open them without manually mounting the other machine's disk first.)

― grimly fiendish (grimlord), Wednesday, 11 January 2006 21:49 (twenty years ago)

It's like I always say, computers think stupid, and if you use computers enough they will make you stupid, too.

― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Wednesday, 11 January 2006 22:01 (twenty years ago)

even when that's demonstrably stupid, like using a microkernel.

there is actually very little implemented in microkernelish manner in OS X.

In response to why pre-OS X sucks:
http://mac-news.net/desktop/219/bomb_s.jpg

― GET EQUIPPED WITH BUBBLE LEAD (ex machina), Wednesday, 11 January 2006 22:04 (twenty years ago)

Tracer, most of the files you can fuck up in OS X are hidden from you in Finder.

― GET EQUIPPED WITH BUBBLE LEAD (ex machina), Wednesday, 11 January 2006 22:06 (twenty years ago)

Hi Jon, I already knew you couldn't actually answer my question, no point in wasting our time with a stupid picture to prove it.

― TOMBOT, Wednesday, 11 January 2006 22:07 (twenty years ago)

there is actually very little implemented in microkernelish manner in OS X.

Memory, I/O and process communication is quite a lot, though. And I/O in particular is a weak spot. Beachballs ho!

― stet (stet), Wednesday, 11 January 2006 22:09 (twenty years ago)

RES IPSA LOQUITUR

xpost It doesn't matter now, I'm pissy and irritated. You could say "hey presto look here's a free Finder replacement that works with every version of OS X yet is exactly like OS 9" and I'd tell you to go to hell because computers are so very very stupid and so very very far from the coolness I once imagined would be possible; no "Dark Castle" moments of revelation or "what's a mouse?" in the last 15 years, screens still 72dpi, you still have to "save" things for fuck's sake. Also, no auto-masturbator.

― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Wednesday, 11 January 2006 22:10 (twenty years ago)

tombot, I reject the premise that OS 9 lacked "the danger of being made obsolete or forcibly shut out".

― GET EQUIPPED WITH BUBBLE LEAD (ex machina), Wednesday, 11 January 2006 22:11 (twenty years ago)

Stet, do you even know what a microkernel is? Those are implemented inside the kernel process itself not as servers.

― GET EQUIPPED WITH BUBBLE LEAD (ex machina), Wednesday, 11 January 2006 22:13 (twenty years ago)

Well, that's OK then. Take a microkernel, puff it out so it's monolithic and everybody wins.

― stet (stet), Wednesday, 11 January 2006 22:39 (twenty years ago)

I think they mostly picked mach for fast message passing between processes.

― GET EQUIPPED WITH BUBBLE LEAD (ex machina), Wednesday, 11 January 2006 22:44 (twenty years ago)

http://mac-news.net/desktop/219/bomb_s.jpg

I've seen this about, oh, maybe 2x in my life. After having worked at a place that had nothing but Macs (including those cute little turtley ones from 1873!), owning 2 Macs prior to OSX, etc etc. Just FYI if that's going to be your argument. I mean mine in return to that wouldn't involve a picture, since my iBook doesn't have the courtesy of showing me a cutey little bomb exploding when it decides it's just time for it to go into a coma.

― Allyzay must fight Zolton herself. (allyzay), Wednesday, 11 January 2006 22:55 (twenty years ago)

Ally, I've seen it HUNDREDS of times on OS 9. Did you ever try to use Netscape 4.x?

― GET EQUIPPED WITH BUBBLE LEAD (ex machina), Thursday, 12 January 2006 01:12 (twenty years ago)

Hi. I went to MacWorld yesterday, a lot of people were there. It was crowded.

― Steve Shasta (Steve Shasta), Thursday, 12 January 2006 01:16 (twenty years ago)

Jon, everyone had to use Netscape 4.x. Most people don't use their internet programs to test semi-malicious codes and try to break websites though. I mean, some self-reflection might be necessary here?

― Allyzay must fight Zolton herself. (allyzay), Thursday, 12 January 2006 01:17 (twenty years ago)

I would if I enlarged the Dock to take up like a quarter of my fucking screen but as it is I basically see a red dot that tells me if I've got unread mail or not. DUD

Or just install Growl and dig the system-wide notifications...

Ugh, I hated tabs in OS 9. I don't use it much now, but I loved DragThing

― Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Thursday, 12 January 2006 01:33 (twenty years ago)

Ally, the shit crashed the machine all the time if you tried to do anything useful. Don't fool yrself.

― GET EQUIPPED WITH BUBBLE LEAD (ex machina), Thursday, 12 January 2006 04:00 (twenty years ago)

I think we should make a book of this argument we have every six months and post it to uncle Steve.

Personally I'm still waiting for taligent, copeland and OpenDoc.

― Ed (dali), Thursday, 12 January 2006 08:18 (twenty years ago)

forget netscape, just the odd dodgy font and using Quark would leave the mac unstable with no option but power off and reboot. first thing we tell the "switch to osx trainees" is you no longer need to switch off and on again. trouble is it's so ingrained in os9 users that they still do it instinctively - we're slowly getting there.

another thing they're slowly getting a grip on is real multitasking. that you really can let the apps get on with their long process (photoshop filter, cd burn) and switch to something else in the meantime. ok, so fewer tea breaks, but still

― Britain's Obtusest Shepherd (Alan), Thursday, 12 January 2006 10:28 (twenty years ago)

first thing we tell the "switch to osx trainees" is you no longer need to switch off and on again. trouble is it's so ingrained in os9 users that they still do it instinctively

I've found that this is also a big problem training Windows users moving from Win9x/ME to XP. We still have users whose instinct, when an application crashes, is to pull the power cord.

― Forest Pines (ForestPines), Thursday, 12 January 2006 10:32 (twenty years ago)

I don't think much about my computer : /

I love it tho

― cozen (Cozen), Thursday, 12 January 2006 10:46 (twenty years ago)

[to be read in sing-song "sparky and his magic piano" voice]

AND I LOVE YOU TOO, CO-ZEN

― CO-ZEN'S COM-PU-TER (grimlord), Thursday, 12 January 2006 10:48 (twenty years ago)

OMG. literally 2 mins after i posted that, guess what? i was converting some m4a files to mp3 and my HOME MAC TOTALLY LOCKED UP. i have had this mac for a year (got it december 2004) and that's the first.

make of that what you will.

the annoying thing is (and this has to be an entirely unrelated thing) that these same m4a files also (temporarily) lock up my ipod. the Ricky Gervais podcasts, if you pause them and let the ipod go to sleep, it's fucking hard to re-wake the little bugger. apparently i'm not the only one with this problem. last time i had to re-attach to the mac, though usually the menu/select reboot works.

― Britain's Obtusest Shepherd (Alan), Thursday, 12 January 2006 10:48 (twenty years ago)

I've had m4a files that I can't do anything with, because they crash the decoder library

Admittedly, this is a problem with the library (well-written programs should know how to handle corrupt input without falling over), but given that the same files cause problems on your Mac and your iPod, it could well be the files' fault.

― Forest Pines (ForestPines), Thursday, 12 January 2006 10:50 (twenty years ago)

sort of good to know. iTunes still shouldn't have hogged the whole processor tho! i couldn't even force quit it. at work i'd have tried ssh'ing in. pah. blimmin single processors

― Britain's Obtusest Shepherd (Alan), Thursday, 12 January 2006 10:57 (twenty years ago)

This thread is fucking great and I understand none of it.

― Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Thursday, 12 January 2006 10:58 (twenty years ago)

Did you try "kill -KILL" from the terminal? Or couldn't you even open one?

― Forest Pines (ForestPines), Thursday, 12 January 2006 11:04 (twenty years ago)

I've used all the major platforms out there and in all their stripes since the late 80's and hell I've got a G4 Powerbook on 10.3.9, a dual-core Athlon machine running xp and an old Pentium III box running Fedora Core in the house.
I would say that the Mac is the easiest to use by far. I find certain aspects of it a bit odd, but I've never had the kind of problems that others seem to have had on this thread. Then again I went in expecting a decent UI on top of a unix backbone, rather than expecting it to behave like the old macs.
XP is pretty usable, far more stable than the earlier flavours of windows. Though I do resent the fact that it has to be double firewalled and have the anti-spyware & anti-virus updated every other day to keep it secure. Also it's not in OSX's league when it comes to adding and using new hardware.
Linux is fine enough, I suppose, but I always seem to run into problems when adding new software or hardware. Automount seems to be a particular issue, especially with external drives. I only really use it as a small local test web server, so I might not be giving it enough time to do it justice.

I think if you want easy to use and you're not really doing much beyond word processing, web browsing and managing an iPod then a Mac of some stripe is the best purchase.

― Greig (treefell), Thursday, 12 January 2006 11:25 (twenty years ago)

This thread is fucking great and I understand none of it.

Apple mac threads with Ally & TomBot on them are always awesome.

― Pashmina (Pashmina), Thursday, 12 January 2006 12:29 (twenty years ago)

I mean, whenever anyone gives me snotty shit on a music forum b/c I'm using an xp box0r to do music on, (despite repeatedly explaining that I COULDN'T ACTUALLY AFFORD A MAC) I see one of these threads and everything is sort-of ok again.

Also, fuck gmedia's "mtron" and its useless shitty installer!

― Pashmina (Pashmina), Thursday, 12 January 2006 12:31 (twenty years ago)

Apple upsets Intel over "dull and boring" allegation

― Momus (Momus), Thursday, 12 January 2006 12:45 (twenty years ago)

Intel: "Our other customers aren't boring"

― Momus (Momus), Thursday, 12 January 2006 12:47 (twenty years ago)

Jon, I'm not fooling myself. I really don't understand what is so difficult for an intelligent person such as yourself to understand about the fact that you and I use our computers for two diametrically opposed purposes, and that Mac USED to be good at my purpose but supposedly kind of iffy at yours, and now Mac is iffy at mine but supposedly good at yours. Ta da, really, easy peasy, why don't you post some more helpful gifs of bombs and scream "PROTECT STABILITY" some more though? Honestly, I'm quite tempted to do a search on "ex machina" and "Mac" and post some of your golden oldies calling Mac users fags but I like you too much.

But lets be honest here, this argument applies to about 5% of the population, the 2% who do what you do and the 3% who need what I need. No one else gives a shit and for 95% of computer purchasers, either a Mac or PC would do 'em just fine.

― Allyzay must fight Zolton herself. (allyzay), Thursday, 12 January 2006 16:16 (twenty years ago)

Dude, I don't care what you tried to do on pre OS X. That shit crashed HARDCORE.

― GET EQUIPPED WITH BUBBLE LEAD (ex machina), Thursday, 12 January 2006 17:06 (twenty years ago)

Exactly. I had to re-install everything AT LEAST once every half year.

― Nathalie (stevie nixed), Thursday, 12 January 2006 17:12 (twenty years ago)

REBUILD YOUR DESKTOP TOMBOT

― GET EQUIPPED WITH BUBBLE LEAD (ex machina), Thursday, 12 January 2006 17:19 (twenty years ago)

I love the mac now and then...but it crashed all the time then. And i'm not talking about doing crazy stuff but stuff like using a scsi scanner and having it's extentions conflict with ATM or something basic.

Anyway, 99% of the crashes on os9 were because of crappy corrupted fonts anyway.

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Thursday, 12 January 2006 19:45 (twenty years ago)

YEAH, IF YOU LOVE OS 9 SO MUCH WHY DON'T YOU ~~MARRY~~ USE IT?

― A BOLD QUAHOG (ex machina), Thursday, 12 January 2006 19:51 (twenty years ago)

Jon, there's still some shit left in my asshole.

― TOMBOT, Thursday, 12 January 2006 20:06 (twenty years ago)

Anyway, I found this point interesting on /.

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Re:Well, Gates WAS a "Person of the Year"
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by Overly Critical Guy (663429) Alter Relationship on 01-12-06 15:38 (#14457740)
Interestingly, Apple is very close to surpassing Dell in market value. Right now it's Apple: $72,301,066,720, Dell: $72,912,111,560. Apple keeps going up, while Dell has been down recently. Imagine the press coverage over Apple surpassing Dell in market value.
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Slashdot dupes an article SIX TIMES [tinyurl.com]
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Re:Well, Gates WAS a "Person of the Year"
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by Anonymous Coward on 01-12-06 15:43 (#14457793)
Yeah, no kidding, especially after Michael's "Jobs should just wind down the company and distribute the assets to the stockholders" remark.
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― A BOLD QUAHOG (ex machina), Thursday, 12 January 2006 22:29 (twenty years ago)

the new iPhoto loads 6,000 photos FAST.

FWIW, iPhoto '06 says it supports 250,000 photos.

250K!!!!!!!

― don weiner (don weiner), Friday, 20 January 2006 02:34 (twenty years ago)

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