Pakistan Condemns Deadly U.S. Airstrike

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Shameful. How many more innocent people will die because of "faulty intelligence."

http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=514&u=/ap/20060114/ap_on_re_as/pakistan_al_qaida_attack_21

shookout (shookout), Saturday, 14 January 2006 13:52 (twenty years ago)

Many more.

I hope the US pay compensations to the families of those civilians that were targetted and killed. How have they dealt with similar situations in the past?

Lovelace (Lovelace), Saturday, 14 January 2006 14:10 (twenty years ago)

Ever heard the saying "war is hell'? just take a look at pictures at any one of the bombed out cities in WW2. You got to do what you got to do.

clouded vision, Saturday, 14 January 2006 17:48 (twenty years ago)

And since this particular war is the "War on Terrorism", and terrorism is a worldwide hidden network, that gives the US the right to send missiles to any point on God's Google Earth, right?

Momus (Momus), Saturday, 14 January 2006 18:02 (twenty years ago)

The dystopian future of unarmed civilizans being killed by robots arrived
sooner than I expected.

shieldforyoureyes, Saturday, 14 January 2006 18:07 (twenty years ago)

Do the US really believe that this type of action can help anything or anybody in any way? Or are they playing some other type of game where it's good to provoke and piss off the rest of the world. Thw 'War on terror' seems to be creating more than enough itself and with Americans like Clouded Vision it'll be able to continue doing so.

Raw Patrick (Raw Patrick), Saturday, 14 January 2006 18:21 (twenty years ago)

"Sunday, January 15, 2006
Associated Press

PESHAWAR, Pakistan — Al Qaeda's No. 2 leader was invited to dinner marking an Islamic holiday at the Pakistani border village struck by a purported CIA airstrike, but he did not show up, intelligence officials said Sunday, as Islamic groups demonstrated across the country in protest of the 17 people killed in the missile strike.

The two Pakistani officials told The Associated Press that this could explain why Friday's predawn attack missed its apparent target, Ayman al-Zawahiri, Usama bin Laden's top lieutenant.

Al-Zawahiri sent some aides to the dinner instead and investigators were trying to determine whether they had been in any of the three houses that were destroyed in the missile strike that killed at least 17 people, one of the officials said."

So al-Zawahiri was invited to a dinner at this particular house, interesting. That certainly casts a great deal of doubt on the innocence of the people in the house. And if al-Zawahiri's personal aides were at the dinner, then the strike might not have been a mistake at all. Again, in a few more days we'll probably have even more information.

clouded vision, Sunday, 15 January 2006 21:55 (twenty years ago)

CIA TOP SECRET DIRECTIVE: High-ranking terror suspect invited to dinner next door to Clouded Vision. Recommend send heavy ordinance to the vicinity by drone immediately.

Momus (Momus), Sunday, 15 January 2006 22:38 (twenty years ago)

C'mon Momus, the children in those houses were terr'ists. They were asking for it.

Raw Patrick (Raw Patrick), Sunday, 15 January 2006 23:07 (twenty years ago)

Well of course they're going to deny it. What are they going to say, "yes, we sympathize with al-Qaeda and invited al-Zawahiri to a dinner, please continue to keep us in the cross-hairs in case we have contact with him or other al-Qaeda in the future"?

clouded vision, Monday, 16 January 2006 01:02 (twenty years ago)

When I saw the report on MSNBC the day the strike happened, I was sure that he didn't get killed. Why? Because all the villagers talked about how everyone had seen an unmanned drone flying around the village for the last 3-4 days. Like everyone in the village is gonna see the drone and the big shot terrorist and his guards aren't, or they're just gonna shrug it off and ignore it.

Alan Conceicao (Alan Conceicao), Monday, 16 January 2006 01:20 (twenty years ago)

It wouldn't be America's fault if their parents were harboring a terrorist. The parents would have placed their children in harm's way by inviting the world's second most wanted terrorist into their home.

clouded vision, Monday, 16 January 2006 01:51 (twenty years ago)

Fuck 'em. War is hell and sometimes the rain will get the innocent wet.

Juicey, Monday, 16 January 2006 03:02 (twenty years ago)

If the CIA had intelligence reporting a topranking Al-Q operative had been located hiding in someone's home in Bumfuck Missouri, I wonder if they'll send a stealh bomber and blow up Bumfuck's main street?

...no?

Trayce (trayce), Monday, 16 January 2006 03:13 (twenty years ago)

Th answer is no because if it were Bumfuck, MO they'd be able to sneak up on the bastard and slit the non-bathing fool's throat, you ingorant fool.

squirrel bait, Monday, 16 January 2006 03:17 (twenty years ago)

what, they dont know how to do this when in furrin lands?

Trayce (trayce), Monday, 16 January 2006 03:55 (twenty years ago)

I hope the US pay compensations to the families of those civilians that were targetted and killed. How have they dealt with similar situations in the past?

they have a system for this. families are given cash, anywhere from $50-$1000, IIRC, if they can find out where to go and queue up for hours or days. fanks, america!

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Monday, 16 January 2006 05:43 (twenty years ago)

>Th answer is no because if it were Bumfuck, MO they'd be able to sneak up on the bastard and slit the non-bathing fool's throat, you ingorant fool.<

If this last attempt was any indication, they'd probably sit outside the guys condo complex with marked vehicles parked across the street for a couple days before doing anything. Of course, when they'd enter, they'd break into the wrong condo, shoot some innocent family, and then realize the guy they were looking for went out the back door while they were busy running such obvious surveillance.

Alan Conceicao (Alan Conceicao), Monday, 16 January 2006 12:36 (twenty years ago)

NYTimes getting wrong non-shockah.

don weiner (don weiner), Monday, 16 January 2006 19:10 (twenty years ago)

There's a difference between a "fake photo" and a "wrong caption," despite what some Freepers would have you think.

kingfish kuribo's shoe (kingfish 2.0), Monday, 16 January 2006 19:24 (twenty years ago)

Also, the NYT actually corrected their caption mistake, which is more than others would.

kingfish kuribo's shoe (kingfish 2.0), Monday, 16 January 2006 19:29 (twenty years ago)

there's also a difference between "wrong caption" and "convenient ignorance", despite what the KosKidz would have you think.'

Also, the picture remains on Yahoo with a misleading caption.

don weiner (don weiner), Monday, 16 January 2006 19:38 (twenty years ago)

that caption:

Pakistani tribesmen stand by a unexploded ordinance at their house which was damaged in an alleged US air strike the day before in the Bajur tribal zone near the Afghan border. Pakistani officials said that Al-Qaeda deputy leader Ayman al-Zawahiri was likely not killed in a US air strike, as Islamabad protested to Washington the deaths of 18 villagers in the attack.(AFP/Thir Khan)

so it wasn't even a NYT photo, was it? Or even an AP photo, huh? It's Agence France-Presse. The caption is correct(it's a kid and other Pakistan folks by a piece of unexploded ordinance), but you're right in that the caption writer could have better specified that the shell came from a different attack. Those damn frenchies always hate Amurka and our freedom, huh?

But, yes, let us focus on a shitty caption and draw up a tempest around that error(an error since corrected). Guess we won't have to talk about the actual shitty event that way.

kingfish kuribo's shoe (kingfish 2.0), Monday, 16 January 2006 20:07 (twenty years ago)

btw, after hearing his "It's unfortunate, but" remarks, FUCK John McCain, for the millionth time.

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Monday, 16 January 2006 20:09 (twenty years ago)

But it's not like any of us don't have problems with aspects of the NYT, but this ain't one of 'em...

kingfish kuribo's shoe (kingfish 2.0), Monday, 16 January 2006 20:11 (twenty years ago)

This sort of shoddy journalism is much more repulsive than you're making it out to be. What the caption says or whether it's misleading or not is irrelevant. Running a news article and placing a similarly-themed, but unrelated photo next to it is irresponsible and false on the part of the NYT.

If somebody gets killed in your city, the local paper might run a photo of the crime scene alongside the story but they would NOT run a photo of a completely different crime scene or 50 Cent or whoever in order to make a generalized point about murder or gun violence. Either report what actually happened or don't report it at all -- using completely unrelated photos to conveniently tell the story you feel like telling. If the NYT doesn't have a photo of the actual scene of the attack then they shouldn't place a photo in their story -- particularly not a blatantly misleading one (don't think for a moment that the editor who put the photo there didn't know exactly what they were doing).

Also, the fact that the photo wasn't taken by a NYT photographer is unimportant -- they ran it, that's all that matters.

NoTimeBeforeTime (Barry Bruner), Monday, 16 January 2006 21:02 (twenty years ago)

ach,

"instead of using completely unrelated photos to conveniently tell the story you feel like telling"

NoTimeBeforeTime (Barry Bruner), Monday, 16 January 2006 21:04 (twenty years ago)

has there been any developments in this story?

I thought I heard on npr today that four top operatives were killed in this missile attack.

ben roberts, Thursday, 19 January 2006 17:48 (twenty years ago)

That's the claim. Which raises the question, do you justify killing a couple dozen innocents for every 4 terr'ists with these Israeli-styled attacks?

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 19 January 2006 17:52 (twenty years ago)

me personally? no. I'm an isolationist.

ben roberts, Thursday, 19 January 2006 18:02 (twenty years ago)

two years pass...

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080916/ap_on_re_as/as_pakistan

gabbneb, Tuesday, 16 September 2008 14:29 (seventeen years ago)

Nice. Now is any US official going to publicly state how the ISI was directly responsible for the creation of the Taliban in the first place? Oh wait

U.S. military commanders accuse Islamabad of doing too little to prevent the Taliban and other militant groups from recruiting, training and resupplying in Pakistan's wild tribal belt.

Okay. I guess we can still only come that far, out of fantasy-land.

Vichitravirya_XI, Tuesday, 16 September 2008 14:38 (seventeen years ago)

This, in addition to the fact that the hotel was the almos-stay of Zardari & other leaders (Prime Minister, members of Parliament) is concerning: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/7627584.stm

Pakistani troops fire on intruding U.S. choppers
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080922/wl_nm/pakistan_usa_helicopters_dc;_ylt=AgSBA7nI8wi2uvPtcZ1ORc8UewgF

Pakistani troops fire on intruding U.S. choppers
By Augustine Anthony
Mon Sep 22, 5:07 AM ET
ISLAMABAD (Reuters) - Pakistani troops fired on two U.S. helicopters that intruded into Pakistani airspace on Sunday night, forcing them to turn back to Afghanistan, a senior Pakistani security official said on Monday.

It was the second such incident in a week, and reflects frayed relations with the United States over Pakistan's failure to act more forcibly against Islamist fighters in the tribal lands bordering Afghanistan.

The number of missile attacks by U.S. drone aircraft in the remote tribal areas has multiplied in recent weeks.

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so is the US going to admit it's basically at war here, or no no, that still doesn't apply to "key allied in the war on terror" ?

Vichitravirya_XI, Monday, 22 September 2008 16:38 (seventeen years ago)

the US is not going to declare war on Pakistan

Shakey Mo Collier, Monday, 22 September 2008 16:42 (seventeen years ago)

I've got a pretty wild tribal belt

Tracer Hand, Monday, 22 September 2008 16:50 (seventeen years ago)

>>the US is not going to declare war on Pakistan

― Shakey Mo Collier, Monday, September 22, 2008 9:42 AM (38 minutes ago) Bookmark<<

Hahaha who is expecting that? - but acknowledging that whoever we think we may be fighting in Afghanistan are, oh, the same people funded by the Pakistani ISI might be a fucking start (even if it's nearly 7 years too late)

Musharraf's cons were great but having "Mr. 10%" take his place is one of the worst options, period. I'd put a bet on those tribes over 10%'s long life-expectancy any day

Vichitravirya_XI, Monday, 22 September 2008 17:28 (seventeen years ago)

four months pass...

It's always touching when a new button-man makes his bones.

"The second attack was aimed at the house of a Taleban commander about 10km (six miles) from the town of Wanna, local reports said.

But officials told the BBC that the drone actually hit the house of a pro-government tribal leader, killing him and four members of his family, including a five-year-old child."

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/7847423.stm

Dr Morbius, Monday, 26 January 2009 15:46 (seventeen years ago)

http://www.sudiptasingh.com/lasvegas/buttonman.JPG

velko, Monday, 26 January 2009 16:24 (seventeen years ago)

"The second attack was incredibly poorly aimed at the house of a Taleban commander..."

fixed

Aimless, Monday, 26 January 2009 18:01 (seventeen years ago)

http://www.uffdashoponline.com/images/uffda2.jpg

╓abies, Monday, 26 January 2009 18:04 (seventeen years ago)

Obama, welcome to the world of trusting the military brass to tell you what's true and to carry out its mission without fucking up, when you're 8,000 miles from the scene and so are they. I suggest you chew some asses. Big time.

Aimless, Monday, 26 January 2009 18:23 (seventeen years ago)

one year passes...

this will never work of course, sadly

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/12/23/AR2010122301278.html?wprss=rss_world/wires&utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=main-twitter

james fondleboy (k3vin k.), Thursday, 23 December 2010 22:29 (fifteen years ago)


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