― Thermo Thinwall (Thermo Thinwall), Tuesday, 17 January 2006 17:44 (eighteen years ago) link
― nabisco (nabisco), Tuesday, 17 January 2006 17:48 (eighteen years ago) link
are you serious?
― ,, Tuesday, 17 January 2006 17:52 (eighteen years ago) link
― nabisco (nabisco), Tuesday, 17 January 2006 17:55 (eighteen years ago) link
― ,, Tuesday, 17 January 2006 17:55 (eighteen years ago) link
you may be alarmed but a lot of people out there do seem to be asking this question.
― Sororah T Massacre (blueski), Tuesday, 17 January 2006 17:56 (eighteen years ago) link
― D.I.Y. U.N.K.L.E. (dave225.3), Tuesday, 17 January 2006 17:58 (eighteen years ago) link
― Sororah T Massacre (blueski), Tuesday, 17 January 2006 17:59 (eighteen years ago) link
― AleXTC (AleXTC), Tuesday, 17 January 2006 18:00 (eighteen years ago) link
― ken c (ken c), Tuesday, 17 January 2006 18:01 (eighteen years ago) link
― Vicious Cop Kills Gentle Fool (Dada), Tuesday, 17 January 2006 18:02 (eighteen years ago) link
― AleXTC (AleXTC), Tuesday, 17 January 2006 18:03 (eighteen years ago) link
― Super Cub (Debito), Tuesday, 17 January 2006 18:03 (eighteen years ago) link
― Super Cub (Debito), Tuesday, 17 January 2006 18:04 (eighteen years ago) link
So, which countries have nuclear warheads & delivery methods?
..And which countries have ever used one? .. (That's rhetorical.)
― D.I.Y. U.N.K.L.E. (dave225.3), Tuesday, 17 January 2006 18:06 (eighteen years ago) link
― ken c (ken c), Tuesday, 17 January 2006 18:06 (eighteen years ago) link
and i'll form the head!
― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Tuesday, 17 January 2006 18:06 (eighteen years ago) link
― ,, Tuesday, 17 January 2006 18:06 (eighteen years ago) link
― Sororah T Massacre (blueski), Tuesday, 17 January 2006 18:07 (eighteen years ago) link
― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Tuesday, 17 January 2006 18:08 (eighteen years ago) link
― AleXTC (AleXTC), Tuesday, 17 January 2006 18:08 (eighteen years ago) link
fair enough, but can a sense of boredom prevail against the horror of seeing Iran invaded / seeing Iran drop a nuclear bomb on Baku?
― DV (dirtyvicar), Tuesday, 17 January 2006 18:10 (eighteen years ago) link
In addition to other effects, a nuclear weapon detonated in or above the earth’s atmosphere can create an electromagnetic pulse (EMP), a high-density electrical field. An EMP acts like a stroke of lightning but is stronger, faster, and shorter. An EMP can seriously damage electronic devices connected to power sources or antennas. This includes communication systems, computers, electrical appliances, and automobile or aircraft ignition systems. The damage could range from a minor interruption to actual burnout of components. Most electronic equipment within 1,000 miles of a high-altitude nuclear detonation could be affected. Battery-powered radios with short antennas generally would not be affected. Although an EMP is unlikely to harm most people, it could harm those with pacemakers or other implanted electronic devices.
like the infrastructure-crippler list above, it wouldn't kill too many people directly, but it would cripple the hell out of the north america.
to use the words of some americans... "bomb them back to the stone age!"
military equipment is supposed to survive such an attack, but... the last EMP test was in the early 60s.
i'm not saying that's a good case. hardly. does iran even have the missle capability for a high altitude detonation over kansas or thereabouts?m.
― msp (mspa), Tuesday, 17 January 2006 18:13 (eighteen years ago) link
huh?
― gabbneb (gabbneb), Tuesday, 17 January 2006 18:19 (eighteen years ago) link
xpost
― Super Cub (Debito), Tuesday, 17 January 2006 18:20 (eighteen years ago) link
― ken c (ken c), Tuesday, 17 January 2006 18:23 (eighteen years ago) link
it's not boredom just depression.
― Sororah T Massacre (blueski), Tuesday, 17 January 2006 18:24 (eighteen years ago) link
or china.
it's nice to have beijing owning that nice big stack of american cash and bonds, i guess. way to go, dubya.
― Eisbär (llamasfur), Tuesday, 17 January 2006 18:25 (eighteen years ago) link
The electric field caused by the blast would be strong enough to reverse the flow of current through a transistor, thereby destroying all transistor-based electronic equipment, i.e. computers.
I believe the reason they don't do EMP tests anymore is because the military had vacuum-tube backups of all their computational equipment. Transitors built using vacuum tubes instead of semiconductors are more robust wrt voltage breakdown and would be expected to survive a nuclear attack. But by the 1960's, computers became too complicated -- building vacuum tube backups became impractical and therefore, there was no need to continue with EMP tests.
Now, they probably store important computer equipment in huge metal cages (and/or way underground) to keep out EM radiation.
― NoTimeBeforeTime (Barry Bruner), Tuesday, 17 January 2006 18:28 (eighteen years ago) link
― mookieproof (mookieproof), Tuesday, 17 January 2006 18:29 (eighteen years ago) link
― o. nate (onate), Tuesday, 17 January 2006 18:30 (eighteen years ago) link
"probably"
:)
― grimly fiendish (grimlord), Tuesday, 17 January 2006 18:31 (eighteen years ago) link
they just base all their computer equipment in Windows so that staff are well drilled on downtime procedures.
― ken c (ken c), Tuesday, 17 January 2006 18:34 (eighteen years ago) link
― Dom iNut (donut), Tuesday, 17 January 2006 18:35 (eighteen years ago) link
― msp (mspa), Tuesday, 17 January 2006 18:35 (eighteen years ago) link
― Sororah T Massacre (blueski), Tuesday, 17 January 2006 18:37 (eighteen years ago) link
― mookieproof (mookieproof), Tuesday, 17 January 2006 18:43 (eighteen years ago) link
― Dom iNut (donut), Tuesday, 17 January 2006 18:43 (eighteen years ago) link
Yeah but I'm seriously wondering whether these people really exist!
― Sororah T Massacre (blueski), Tuesday, 17 January 2006 18:46 (eighteen years ago) link
well, yes. having nuclear capability to shit up your neighbour is not the same as having it with the intention of using it. it's the same as carrying a knife.
that said: as every wee ned up in court for murder knows only too well, "it just got out of hand" isn't much of an excuse when you've just stabbed someone to death.
― grimly fiendish (grimlord), Tuesday, 17 January 2006 18:51 (eighteen years ago) link
― Dom iNut (donut), Tuesday, 17 January 2006 18:52 (eighteen years ago) link
Not to be too much a of a pedant, but vacuum tubes are not transistors.
― A BOLD QUAHOG (ex machina), Tuesday, 17 January 2006 19:10 (eighteen years ago) link
― NoTimeBeforeTime (Barry Bruner), Tuesday, 17 January 2006 19:12 (eighteen years ago) link
― D.I.Y. U.N.K.L.E. (dave225.3), Tuesday, 17 January 2006 19:13 (eighteen years ago) link
― A BOLD QUAHOG (ex machina), Tuesday, 17 January 2006 19:15 (eighteen years ago) link
OK.
― NoTimeBeforeTime (Barry Bruner), Tuesday, 17 January 2006 19:15 (eighteen years ago) link
Yes. It wouldn't matter if the equipment was turned on because the induced current from the explosion would be strong enough to ruin everything.
― NoTimeBeforeTime (Barry Bruner), Tuesday, 17 January 2006 19:18 (eighteen years ago) link
― Dom iNut (donut), Tuesday, 17 January 2006 19:57 (eighteen years ago) link
― ken c (ken c), Tuesday, 17 January 2006 20:05 (eighteen years ago) link
infrastructural nightmare, looting, etc.
"farm living is the life for me"?? the paranoid truth behind Green Acres.m.
― msp (mspa), Tuesday, 17 January 2006 20:06 (eighteen years ago) link
is this a good time for a patriotic, non-islamic iranian-american to apply for a job with the us intelligence community? would that be a power move?
― the late great, Wednesday, 15 February 2012 17:02 (twelve years ago) link
Zoroastrian?
― le ralliement du doute et de l'erreur (Michael White), Wednesday, 15 February 2012 17:16 (twelve years ago) link
Yeah the "Iran Al-Qaeda Terror Plot" headlines of late have been giving me the queasy feeling of becoming aware that I'm old enough to have heard this one before and yet it will probably work again.
― happiness is the new productivity (Hurting 2), Wednesday, 15 February 2012 17:23 (twelve years ago) link
baha'i
― the late great, Wednesday, 15 February 2012 17:33 (twelve years ago) link
i'm going to answer my own q by saying i'm pretty sure getting a job w/ in the intelligence community would require moving to some godawful place (ie outside california) but maybe somebody (tombot?) knows more about this than i do?
― the late great, Wednesday, 15 February 2012 17:34 (twelve years ago) link
How's your Farsi?
― le ralliement du doute et de l'erreur (Michael White), Wednesday, 15 February 2012 18:23 (twelve years ago) link
getting a job w/ in the intelligence community would require moving to some godawful place
Virginia?
― max buzzword (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 15 February 2012 18:26 (twelve years ago) link
farsi is fluent but i am illiterate
― the late great, Wednesday, 15 February 2012 18:43 (twelve years ago) link
I'd rather see better translations in the news media. In the intelligence community your work will likely be ignored if you don't provide the politically approved translation.
― Pauper Management Improved (Sanpaku), Wednesday, 15 February 2012 18:52 (twelve years ago) link
oh hell yeah. how are you with battery cables?
― Little GTFO (contenderizer), Wednesday, 15 February 2012 19:12 (twelve years ago) link
battery cables??
― the late great, Thursday, 16 February 2012 00:05 (twelve years ago) link
ABC News was particularly disgusting yesterday: Martha Raddatz on a warship in the Strait of Hormuz aiming for that warmonger verite.
― Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 16 February 2012 02:54 (twelve years ago) link
CNN drumbeat by Pentagon 'reporter' Chris Lawrence:
"Iran already has a missile that could reach the U.S. if it could put it on a ship and move it to within 600 miles of the American coastline."
http://www.salon.com/2012/07/16/cnn_on_the_iran_threat/
― Pangborn to be Wilde (Dr Morbius), Monday, 16 July 2012 13:57 (eleven years ago) link
and move it to within 600 miles of the American coastline.
Still more afraid of a suitcase bomb than this scenario.
― Et tant pis pour Byzance puisque que j´ai vu Pigalle (Michael White), Monday, 16 July 2012 13:59 (eleven years ago) link
It's amazing how the range of Iran's missiles adjusts according to how badly we want to attack them.
― Will Chave (Hurting 2), Monday, 16 July 2012 14:04 (eleven years ago) link
THE MISSILES ARE COMING FROM INSIDE THE HOUSE.
― Marco YOLO (Phil D.), Monday, 16 July 2012 14:09 (eleven years ago) link
Oh wait I didn't even read that link, shit is pretty lol
― Will Chave (Hurting 2), Monday, 16 July 2012 14:14 (eleven years ago) link
i'm in the UK & i have a rock that could burrow a metre deep down into antarctic snow so long as someone rows me to the edge of antarctic water so i can throw it
― , Blogger (schlump), Monday, 16 July 2012 16:08 (eleven years ago) link
Anyone know what Bulgaria is? A friend of mine is there and was close to being blown to shreds in a tour bus. Netanyahu blames Iran. Is this serious or just SOP for the area?
― how's life, Wednesday, 18 July 2012 22:22 (eleven years ago) link
Bulgaria is a country in central europe iirc
― the alternate vision continues his vision quest! (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 18 July 2012 22:23 (eleven years ago) link
Yes, yes. It appears to be near Albania, ffs. It sounds so old-timey.
― how's life, Wednesday, 18 July 2012 22:26 (eleven years ago) link
it seems like a pretty random place to stage a terrorist attack, I'm not sure what to make of it. Netty blames Iran for everything fwiw.
― the alternate vision continues his vision quest! (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 18 July 2012 22:28 (eleven years ago) link
This kind of thing is completely unheard of in Bulgaria, as far as i know. The Black Sea resorts are super-popular with Israeli tourists.
― Temporarily Famous In The Czech Republic (ShariVari), Wednesday, 18 July 2012 22:29 (eleven years ago) link
suspect sure doesn't look Iranian to me but what do I know
― the alternate vision continues his vision quest! (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 19 July 2012 15:44 (eleven years ago) link
http://img2.wpdigital.net/rf/image_358w/2010-2019/WashingtonPost/2012/07/19/Foreign/Images/APTOPIX_Bulgaria_Israelis_Attacked-04fad.jpg
― the alternate vision continues his vision quest! (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 19 July 2012 15:45 (eleven years ago) link
YES
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1386809/Eye-eye-Woman-blinded-scorned-lover-given-permission-throw-acid-eyes-Iran-court.html
― the late great, Sunday, 29 July 2012 22:56 (eleven years ago) link
President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad said on Monday he was ready to be the first human sent into orbit by Iran's fledgling space program, Iranian media reported.The launch added to Western concerns about Iran's space program because the same rocket technology could potentially be used to deliver a nuclear warhead on a ballistic missile. "I am ready to be the first human to be sent to space by Iranian scientists," Ahmadinejad said on Monday, on the sidelines of an exhibition of space achievements in Tehran, according to the Mehr news agency. "Sending living things into space is the result of Iranian efforts and the dedication of thousands of Iranian scientists."
The launch added to Western concerns about Iran's space program because the same rocket technology could potentially be used to deliver a nuclear warhead on a ballistic missile. "I am ready to be the first human to be sent to space by Iranian scientists," Ahmadinejad said on Monday, on the sidelines of an exhibition of space achievements in Tehran, according to the Mehr news agency. "Sending living things into space is the result of Iranian efforts and the dedication of thousands of Iranian scientists."
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 4 February 2013 17:09 (eleven years ago) link
I think we should encourage this.
rocket manejad
― Spectrum, Monday, 4 February 2013 17:11 (eleven years ago) link
Statement from Iranian commies on the current situation:
http://www.solidnet.org/iran-tudeh-party-of-iran/tudeh-party-of-iran-statement-of-the-tudeh-party-of-iran-on-the-popular-protest-movement-in-the-country-29-december-2017-en
― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 2 January 2018 20:03 (six years ago) link
http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2018/01/02/women-are-leading-in-iran-where-is-their-voice-support-from-left.html
^^ lol
― the late great, Thursday, 4 January 2018 03:18 (six years ago) link
israel to iran, today
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lz3Vfme-2qg
― the late great, Monday, 30 April 2018 18:52 (six years ago) link
look at all that secret shit
https://i.imgur.com/nP4j1m8.jpg
― the late great, Monday, 30 April 2018 19:00 (six years ago) link
bibi's presentation style is ... interesting
― Daniel Johns Hopkins (jim in vancouver), Monday, 30 April 2018 19:27 (six years ago) link
red black and green binders a nice touch
― the late great, Monday, 30 April 2018 19:35 (six years ago) link
actually should have been red white and green now that i think about it
my brain is off today
― the late great, Monday, 30 April 2018 19:36 (six years ago) link
https://i.imgur.com/XkEeFfV.png
― Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Friday, 3 January 2020 11:50 (four years ago) link
thought this thread might be useful for non-UK politics takes on this, apologies if i've missed another revive
― Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Friday, 3 January 2020 11:54 (four years ago) link
Most talk has been over here.
― Le Bateau Ivre, Friday, 3 January 2020 12:04 (four years ago) link
ah thank you
― Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Friday, 3 January 2020 12:05 (four years ago) link