Let's discuss Moodysson's "A Hole in My Heart" ["Ett hâl i mitt hjärta"]...

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― remy (x Jeremy), Thursday, 19 January 2006 20:50 (twenty years ago)

No.

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Thursday, 19 January 2006 20:52 (twenty years ago)

When is this coming out?

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 19 January 2006 20:54 (twenty years ago)

review, review, review.

― remy (x Jeremy), Thursday, 19 January 2006 20:54 (twenty years ago)

I don't say this about many films, but I actually don't want to see it.

― adamrl (nordicskilla), Thursday, 19 January 2006 21:16 (twenty years ago)

It's out on DVD already, jaymc.

― adamrl (nordicskilla), Thursday, 19 January 2006 21:16 (twenty years ago)

What?

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 19 January 2006 21:18 (twenty years ago)

It's out on DVD already.

― adamrl (nordicskilla), Thursday, 19 January 2006 21:19 (twenty years ago)

jaymc

― adamrl (nordicskilla), Thursday, 19 January 2006 21:19 (twenty years ago)

Is it possible this only played in Chicago at the European Union Film Festival? Why didn't it get an actual release?

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 19 January 2006 21:20 (twenty years ago)

It got a release here, at least in the East Bay.

― adamrl (nordicskilla), Thursday, 19 January 2006 21:21 (twenty years ago)

UK 14 January 2005 (limited)
Norway 4 March 2005
Finland 11 March 2005
Argentina 17 March 2005 (Mar del Plata Film Festival)
Hong Kong 26 March 2005 (Hong Kong International Film Festival)
Iceland 8 April 2005 (Iceland International Film Festival)
USA 8 April 2005 (limited)

― adamrl (nordicskilla), Thursday, 19 January 2006 21:22 (twenty years ago)

I'm gonna get all Rosenbaum now.

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 19 January 2006 21:24 (twenty years ago)

sorry, don't know what that means.

― adamrl (nordicskilla), Thursday, 19 January 2006 21:24 (twenty years ago)

aren't there lots of close-ups of uh... vagina surgery and stuff in this?

― s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 19 January 2006 21:25 (twenty years ago)

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― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 19 January 2006 21:26 (twenty years ago)

aaaaaaah

― adamrl (nordicskilla), Thursday, 19 January 2006 21:27 (twenty years ago)

I mean, Together and Lilya 4-Ever both played for at least a week at Landmark Century Cinema. Were distributors scared off by the vaginal surgery slocki alludes to?

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 19 January 2006 21:30 (twenty years ago)

Or was it the piss? I dunno.

― adamrl (nordicskilla), Thursday, 19 January 2006 21:30 (twenty years ago)

I don't say this about many films, but I actually don't want to see it.

Yeah. I like Moodyson but this I don't need to see.

― Lars and Jagger (Ex Leon), Thursday, 19 January 2006 21:32 (twenty years ago)

aren't there lots of close-ups of uh... vagina surgery and stuff in this?

Yes, but they're really rapid-fire. And not nearly as disturbing as the human dynamic between the actors / filmmaker. Honest!

I've seen the film twice now, and I can't make up my mind about it. It is affecting, but I'm not sure to what end.

― remy (x Jeremy), Thursday, 19 January 2006 21:32 (twenty years ago)

I think he's a little overrated. I only really rate Together!

― adamrl (nordicskilla), Thursday, 19 January 2006 21:33 (twenty years ago)

I've seen him talk in person though and he is super-shy and awkward (and indie).

― adamrl (nordicskilla), Thursday, 19 January 2006 21:33 (twenty years ago)

Really? I adore Show Me Love. And I'm pretty sure I respect Lilya without really wanting to see it again.

― remy (x Jeremy), Thursday, 19 January 2006 21:34 (twenty years ago)

Is there where I complain about the British term "rate"?

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 19 January 2006 21:34 (twenty years ago)

no it isn't.

― adamrl (nordicskilla), Thursday, 19 January 2006 21:34 (twenty years ago)

Is this where I complain about Americans wearing stetsons and eating big macs?

― adamrl (nordicskilla), Thursday, 19 January 2006 21:35 (twenty years ago)

Bye.

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 19 January 2006 21:35 (twenty years ago)

Adam, it's stupid. You rate something highly or poorly, you don't just rate it.

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 19 January 2006 21:36 (twenty years ago)

oh, come on.

xp - you do if you're British! Which I am.

― adamrl (nordicskilla), Thursday, 19 January 2006 21:36 (twenty years ago)

I still think it's dumb.

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 19 January 2006 21:37 (twenty years ago)

I don't rate the line of argument you're taking. I don't rate it at all.

If I DON'T rate it, you might infer that I'm not even considering it worthy of a good OR bad rating. Thus I don't rate it.

― adamrl (nordicskilla), Thursday, 19 January 2006 21:37 (twenty years ago)

If I DID rate it, well then it's obviously worthy of some kind of rating, THEN we can get on to distinctions between good and bad.

― adamrl (nordicskilla), Thursday, 19 January 2006 21:38 (twenty years ago)

Wait, so you can say you rate something but not actually like it? That is interesting.

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 19 January 2006 21:39 (twenty years ago)

This idea of even "rating" something in the first place therefore acts as a gatekeeper to another domain where things are given a rating relative to their actual quality (subjectively, of course).

― adamrl (nordicskilla), Thursday, 19 January 2006 21:40 (twenty years ago)

Wait, so you can say you rate something but not actually like it? That is interesting.

Yes, but if I say "I rate it", you are then allowed to say to me "and how exactly did you rate it" and I might reply "It blew my mind", "It was painful but good", or even "It was fucking trash".

― adamrl (nordicskilla), Thursday, 19 January 2006 21:41 (twenty years ago)

There was a near-rate in 'Hole in My Heart' involving a baseball bat and two old dudes in facemasks. Thankfully, it was averted. Just ended up an attempted-rate, but it made for some tense moments.

― remy (x Jeremy), Thursday, 19 January 2006 21:42 (twenty years ago)

Okay, I can see how that might be useful.

BUT if you think something was fucking trash, why would you choose to rate it at all?

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 19 January 2006 21:42 (twenty years ago)

I guess not rating something COULD infer a kind of non-plussed devil's advocate reaction to something which is held by a majority to be worth rating.

― adamrl (nordicskilla), Thursday, 19 January 2006 21:43 (twenty years ago)

But you know, you can kind of fuck around with it, improvise, like jazz.

Would you try and copyedit jazz? No, you would not.

― adamrl (nordicskilla), Thursday, 19 January 2006 21:44 (twenty years ago)

stet

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 19 January 2006 21:44 (twenty years ago)

So anyway.

Yes, I liked Fucking Amal or whatever it's called. But there was another film, an American film set in NYC, that came out around the same time with an almost identical story, a romace between two teenage girls. I can't remember the name but the girl in it always listens to Patti Smith really loudly. And it was good.

And Lilya 4 Ever I...don't think I like. It just felt difficult for its own sake, which I suspect could be true of Hole In My Heart, but of course I haven't seen it so I don't really know.

― adamrl (nordicskilla), Thursday, 19 January 2006 21:53 (twenty years ago)

I can't remember the name but the girl in it always listens to Patti Smith really loudly. And it was good.

Was this All Over Me?

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 19 January 2006 22:03 (twenty years ago)

Could have been!

― adamrl (nordicskilla), Thursday, 19 January 2006 22:05 (twenty years ago)

I saw it at a festival and I can't remember much about it.

― adamrl (nordicskilla), Thursday, 19 January 2006 22:05 (twenty years ago)

Gal from To Die For, plus pink-haired Leisha Hailey of the Murmurs (now The L Word)?

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 19 January 2006 22:06 (twenty years ago)

Okay, I checked IMDB and I think you are right! Good one.

― adamrl (nordicskilla), Thursday, 19 January 2006 22:07 (twenty years ago)

I rate your powers of recall, jaymc.

― adamrl (nordicskilla), Thursday, 19 January 2006 22:07 (twenty years ago)

I didn't remember it right away, but I figured if there was an American movie about teenage lesbians from the late 90s, I would've seen it.

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 19 January 2006 22:09 (twenty years ago)

Yes, it had that kind of downtown New York thing, which I believe was what attracted me to the film at the time.

― adamrl (nordicskilla), Thursday, 19 January 2006 22:23 (twenty years ago)

If you watch this movie (as you will watch it) in a lowly theatre, with a scattering of queasy folk, you might not make it through. But when you watch it (as I watched it) at a film festival, in a cinema of eight hundred and thirty-two seats, every one of them occupied, something strange may overtake you—

I think this is my new favorite sentence in the history of film review.

― Sym Sym (sym), Friday, 20 January 2006 06:06 (twenty years ago)

the film was discussed bere a bit: Lukas Moodysson.

― Sym Sym (sym), Friday, 20 January 2006 06:09 (twenty years ago)

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