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Yes, it's an exercise in publicity, but who cares?

http://www.icons.org.uk/

What are you going to vote for? Doctor Who? Samuel Pepys? Real Ale?

This seems like exactly the sort of Organised Fun that would drive ILX0rs Disgusted In Tunrbidge Wells.

Trying To Resonate Concrete (kate), Monday, 23 January 2006 14:07 (twenty years ago)

Hi, I'm a strategically placed black person! I like phone boxes!

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Monday, 23 January 2006 14:10 (twenty years ago)

(It would help if I could spell Tunbridge Wells!)

Trying To Resonate Concrete (kate), Monday, 23 January 2006 14:12 (twenty years ago)

i never knew blood could actually boil till i visited that site.

Theorry Henry (Enrique), Monday, 23 January 2006 14:12 (twenty years ago)

What do you mean, "buggery" isn't an icon?!?!?

Trying To Resonate Concrete (kate), Monday, 23 January 2006 14:13 (twenty years ago)

Anyway, why does it make your blood boil? A few years ago on ILX, we were trying to come up with one, with the Geezathetics crew and their whole "let the national symbol of England be a pub" and all that.

Trying To Resonate Concrete (kate), Monday, 23 January 2006 14:15 (twenty years ago)

oh God, I wonder if they realised that they'd be getting themselves into hot water because loads of the nominations/icons are actually british rather than english.... but it's because the funding comes from DCMS, which only covers england.

Vicky (Vicky), Monday, 23 January 2006 14:16 (twenty years ago)

this is state-funded? ffs.

Theorry Henry (Enrique), Monday, 23 January 2006 14:17 (twenty years ago)

I wonder if they realised that they'd be getting themselves into hot water because loads of the nominations/icons are actually british rather than english....

I love it when people suggest King Arthur as an icon of Englishness, given that he became iconic for his skill of defeating the English in battle.

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Monday, 23 January 2006 14:18 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, a whole load of them, I was a bit "hang on - Hadrian's Wall? Surely that's British" but then again, I guess it's English becuase it was designed to keep the Scots *out*.

x-post, Arthur became an icon of the Normans because he defeated the *Saxons*. Which is what the Normans were all about.

Trying To Resonate Concrete (kate), Monday, 23 January 2006 14:21 (twenty years ago)

x-post, Arthur became an icon of the Normans because he defeated the *Saxons*. Which is what the Normans were all about.

which doesn't make him 'english', rly.

Theorry Henry (Enrique), Monday, 23 January 2006 14:23 (twenty years ago)

god help my county when its culture is dead enough to allow for bullshit like this

,,, Monday, 23 January 2006 14:25 (twenty years ago)

I was going to say that it was very London centric, what with all the tube and bus stuff, but actually, there is quite a bit from regions all around England.

Trying To Resonate Concrete (kate), Monday, 23 January 2006 14:26 (twenty years ago)

the pub has already been considered and dismissed in this thing (i remember the story on BBC news 24 before i think and thought oh pub! and then they mentioned it as one that didn't make the list)

ken c (ken c), Monday, 23 January 2006 14:28 (twenty years ago)

except this must be different as it's on the list of nominations!

ken c (ken c), Monday, 23 January 2006 14:30 (twenty years ago)

"the pub" can't be an icon. actually what the fuck do they mean by icon?

Theorry Henry (Enrique), Monday, 23 January 2006 14:32 (twenty years ago)

Well, this is nominations based on popular demand. Hence why foxhunting is doing so well!

I mean, as annoying and organised fun as this is, it's infinitely preferable to all that bloody flagwaving and "ooh, let's a have a Fourth of July" crap.

Trying To Resonate Concrete (kate), Monday, 23 January 2006 14:33 (twenty years ago)

wrong again

,,, Monday, 23 January 2006 14:37 (twenty years ago)

foxhunting can't be an 'icon' either.

Theorry Henry (Enrique), Monday, 23 January 2006 14:37 (twenty years ago)

A disembowelled fox would make a smashing symbol of countryside ideals.

NickB (NickB), Monday, 23 January 2006 15:00 (twenty years ago)

And in my case also urban ideals ;)

Sororah T Massacre (blueski), Monday, 23 January 2006 15:02 (twenty years ago)

Actually not disembowelled, just gagged.

Sororah T Massacre (blueski), Monday, 23 January 2006 15:02 (twenty years ago)

Foxgagging, a quintessentially English pastime.

Sororah T Massacre (blueski), Monday, 23 January 2006 15:03 (twenty years ago)

http://www.bbc.co.uk/cult/classic/basilbrush/images/basilindex.jpg

BOOM BOOM

'Curt' Russell (noodle vague), Monday, 23 January 2006 15:10 (twenty years ago)

pub icon
http://www.strawcraftsmen.co.uk/navimg/pub.gif

ken c (ken c), Monday, 23 January 2006 15:40 (twenty years ago)

fox hunting icon
http://www.freedownloadgamescenter.com/imagesc/-aHR0cDovL3d3dy5hc3RvbnNoZWxsLmNvbS9waWMvZm94LmdpZg==-32-32.gif

ken c (ken c), Monday, 23 January 2006 15:40 (twenty years ago)

another
http://www.equinfo.hu/pikt/vadaszlovaglas.jpg

ken c (ken c), Monday, 23 January 2006 15:41 (twenty years ago)

My vote

Mädchen (Madchen), Monday, 23 January 2006 17:58 (twenty years ago)

god help my county when its culture is dead enough to allow for bullshit like this

like a peach? their apologies for having a land area slightly smaller than Oregon.

gabbneb (gabbneb), Monday, 23 January 2006 18:22 (twenty years ago)

Doctor Who? An English icon? Is that why Tennant's not got his own accent then?

ailsa (ailsa), Monday, 23 January 2006 18:31 (twenty years ago)

Well, apparently James Bond is an *English* icon, too, despite clearly (well, both in the books and in Sean Connery's accent) being Scots.

Trying To Resonate Concrete (kate), Monday, 23 January 2006 18:32 (twenty years ago)

See also the Flying Scotsman.

Mädchen (Madchen), Monday, 23 January 2006 18:33 (twenty years ago)

Well, Flying Scotsman *the train* ran for most of its route in England, and Flying Scotsman *the locomotive* was built in Yorkshire.

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Monday, 23 January 2006 19:34 (twenty years ago)

Aw, jeez, someone nominated the Thames Whale.

ailsa (ailsa), Monday, 23 January 2006 19:39 (twenty years ago)

Well, apparently James Bond is an *English* icon, too, despite clearly (well, both in the books and in Sean Connery's accent) being Scots.

I thought in the books he was English but that, later on, Fleming gave him some Scottish ancestry because he liked Sean Connery's performance so much.

Vicious Cop Kills Gentle Fool (Dada), Tuesday, 24 January 2006 12:50 (twenty years ago)

he's not scots, really, in the books. about as scottish as tony blair iirc.

Theorry Henry (Enrique), Tuesday, 24 January 2006 12:51 (twenty years ago)

I clearly recall him having Scottish ancestry, that he went to a Scottish University, but didn't realise it was added in after the fact.

Trying To Resonate Concrete (kate), Tuesday, 24 January 2006 13:00 (twenty years ago)

Aw, jeez, someone nominated the Thames Whale.

It's just like people voting for James Blunt in a Greatest Songs Of All Time poll.

Sororah T Massacre (blueski), Tuesday, 24 January 2006 13:01 (twenty years ago)

i think that's the only appropriate to a poll like this.

Theorry Henry (Enrique), Tuesday, 24 January 2006 14:11 (twenty years ago)

that's why i voted for james blunt as our national icon.

Theorry Henry (Enrique), Tuesday, 24 January 2006 14:11 (twenty years ago)

I hope the final list is completely composed of foods and beverages.

RoxyMuzak© (roxymuzak), Tuesday, 24 January 2006 14:22 (twenty years ago)

Jellied eels and Pearly Queens

Rumpie (lil drummer girl parumpumpumpu), Tuesday, 24 January 2006 14:24 (twenty years ago)

The Charleston Walk

Rumpie (lil drummer girl parumpumpumpu), Tuesday, 24 January 2006 14:24 (twenty years ago)

You people say "hotch potch" instead of hodge podge? Or is that just the site?

RoxyMuzak© (roxymuzak), Tuesday, 24 January 2006 14:32 (twenty years ago)

Emm, I don't know. What's a hotch potch? Betty used to make Hot Pot?

Rumpie (lil drummer girl parumpumpumpu), Tuesday, 24 January 2006 14:36 (twenty years ago)

The results are in!!

1. Mushy Peas
2. King's Kebab House
3. T Super
4. brown sauce
5. Ribena
6. A Potato
7. The idea of ordering a half pint of something
8. Cadbury machines
9. The Thames Whale RIP
10. Mint Aero

RoxyMuzak© (roxymuzak), Tuesday, 24 January 2006 16:16 (twenty years ago)

7. The idea of ordering a half pint of something

a GREAT idea.

Theorry Henry (Enrique), Tuesday, 24 January 2006 16:17 (twenty years ago)

I've not eaten an Aero in years. How about you?

Sororah T Massacre (blueski), Tuesday, 24 January 2006 16:35 (twenty years ago)

i have, within the last few months -- if not weeks. not a mint one though, ew.

Theorry Henry (Enrique), Tuesday, 24 January 2006 16:37 (twenty years ago)

Not a mint one? You mean you've eaten secondhand Aero that wasn't quite in tip top condition?

Vicious Cop Kills Gentle Fool (Dada), Tuesday, 24 January 2006 16:43 (twenty years ago)

ihttp://img120.exs.cx/img120/2331/roffles1sm.jpg

Theorry Henry (Enrique), Tuesday, 24 January 2006 16:46 (twenty years ago)

But seriously tho, what's the difference between a British icon and an English icon? King's Kebab House is English (I'm guessing) but most of the others aren't very English (apart from mushy peas). And what's T Super?

Vicious Cop Kills Gentle Fool (Dada), Tuesday, 24 January 2006 16:51 (twenty years ago)

tennant's

Theorry Henry (Enrique), Tuesday, 24 January 2006 16:52 (twenty years ago)

Oh, that's very English isn't it? Ha ha.

Vicious Cop Kills Gentle Fool (Dada), Tuesday, 24 January 2006 16:53 (twenty years ago)

The Charleston Walk

Is that like the Lambeth Walk relocated to South Carolina?

6. A Potato

Didn't Britain nick them off your lot?

Re: James Bond, Wikipedia says "James Bond is the son of a Scottish father, Andrew Bond, and a Swiss mother" who later was brought up in England following the death of said parents. He was schooled in both England and Scotland, but that is neither here nor there.

ailsa (ailsa), Tuesday, 24 January 2006 18:16 (twenty years ago)


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