cindy sheehan may challenge dianne feinstein for Cal. senate...yeah, right

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Watch the lunatic left drop the media whore (sheehan, that is) like a hot potato. Her bizarre hobnobbing with radical Venusian...er...Venuzuelan nutcase Hugo Chávez were simply charming and eccentric. Attacks on Sens. Feinstein and Clinton reveal her true colors: either she's mentally unstable (likely) or just in it for the fame. In any case, you can't bbq the sacred cows and expect to stay in the party. Soon no one will talk to her but Barbra Streisand!

Cindy Sheehan May Challenge Calif. Senator

By IAN JAMES

The Associated Press

Sunday, January 29, 2006; 1:05 AM

CARACAS, Venezuela -- Cindy Sheehan, the peace activist who set up camp near
President Bush's Texas ranch last summer, said Saturday she is considering
running against Sen. Dianne Feinstein to protest what she called the
California lawmaker's support for the war in Iraq.

"She voted for the war. She continues to vote for the funding. She won't
call for an immediate withdrawal of the troops," Sheehan told The Associated
Press in an interview while attending the World Social Forum in Venezuela
along with thousands of other anti-war and anti-globalization activists.

U.S. anti-war activist Cindy Sheehan hugs a supporter before speaking about
the U.S. war in Iraq at the 6th World Social Forum in Caracas, Venezuela,
Saturday, Jan. 28, 2006. Sheehan, whose son was killed in Iraq, said she was
considering running for office against Sen. Diane Feinstein while she waited
for the California lawmaker to back a filibuster of Supreme Court nominee
Samuel Alito. (AP Photo/Leslie Mazoch)

"I think our senator needs to be held accountable for her support of George
Bush and his war policies," said Sheehan, whose 24-year-old soldier son
Casey was killed in Iraq in 2004.

Feinstein's campaign manager, Kam Kuwata, said the senator "doesn't support
George Bush and his war policies."

"She has stated publicly on numerous occasions that she felt she was misled
by the administration at the time of the vote," Kuwata said by phone from
California.

But with troops committed, Feinstein believes immediate withdrawal is not a
responsible option, Kuwata said.

"Senator Feinstein's position is, let's work toward quickly turning over the
defense of Iraq to Iraqis so that we can bring the troops home as soon as
possible," he said.

Sheehan accused Feinstein of being out of touch with Californians on the
issue.

She said she would decide whether to run after talking with her three other
adult children. The Democratic primary will be held in June, and candidates
must submit their statements for the voter guide by Feb. 14.

Kuwata said Feinstein and Sheehan appear to have a fundamental disagreement
over whether troops should be pulled out right now. "That's why they have
elections, and if she decides to file (paperwork to run), so be it," he
said.

Sheehan said running in the Democratic primary would help make a broader
point.

"If I decided to run, I would have no illusions of winning, but it would
bring attention to all the peace candidates in the country," she said.

Sheehan, 48, who lives in Berkeley, Calif., said she would head to
Washington on Sunday for protests against Bush's State of the Union address
on Tuesday, and then return to California to discuss her idea of running
against Feinstein with her son and two daughters.

"I can't see_ if they think it's going to help peace_ that they would be
opposed to me doing it," she said.

― gabriel3, Sunday, 29 January 2006 22:34 (twenty years ago)

What was the name of that loony candidate that Patrick Marber played on the "polical talk" ep of KMKY? The "Happy Slappy Party" or some such?

― kingfish kuribo's shoe (kingfish 2.0), Sunday, 29 January 2006 22:56 (twenty years ago)

Also, anyone figured out why Streisand remains a constant boogeyman to rightwingers? It's like them using Jane Fonda 30+ years later...

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/1595230092.01._AA240_SCLZZZZZZZ_.jpg

― kingfish kuribo's shoe (kingfish 2.0), Sunday, 29 January 2006 23:02 (twenty years ago)

b/c she's jewish?!?

― Eisbär (llamasfur), Sunday, 29 January 2006 23:04 (twenty years ago)

What was the name of that loony candidate that Patrick Marber played on the "polical talk" ep of KMKY? The "Happy Slappy Party" or some such?

Lieutenant Colonel Kojak Slaphead III.

― wmlynch (wlynch), Sunday, 29 January 2006 23:11 (twenty years ago)

Lieutenant Colonel Kojak Slaphead III.

Thanks!

― kingfish kuribo's shoe (kingfish 2.0), Sunday, 29 January 2006 23:13 (twenty years ago)

ah, here we are:

Bald Brummies Against The Bigfoot Conspiracy Party

― kingfish kuribo's shoe (kingfish 2.0), Sunday, 29 January 2006 23:16 (twenty years ago)

http://www.bbc.co.uk/comedy/partridge/life/images/150_130_5baldbrummie.jpg

"Well, I'd vote for her."

― kingfish kuribo's shoe (kingfish 2.0), Sunday, 29 January 2006 23:22 (twenty years ago)

Also, anyone figured out why Streisand remains a constant boogeyman to rightwingers?

boogeyman? She's widely regarded as a laughingstock.

― don weiner (don weiner), Sunday, 29 January 2006 23:22 (twenty years ago)

That's what I mean. She shows up as one of those quick go-to/namecheck characters.

― kingfish kuribo's shoe (kingfish 2.0), Sunday, 29 January 2006 23:32 (twenty years ago)

Seriously, Sheehan was useful at first but she's getting off point. She should be encouraged to take her little personal thing to the sidelines. It's gotten embarrassing.

― DanielleIsNot, Sunday, 29 January 2006 23:57 (twenty years ago)

"gotten"

― don weiner (don weiner), Monday, 30 January 2006 01:48 (twenty years ago)

Criticizing Feinstein and Clinton seems totally on point to me frankly and I have no problem with (or with her meeting) Hugo Chavez who is a hell of a lot less of a nutcase than our president can ever have claimed to have been.

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Monday, 30 January 2006 01:59 (twenty years ago)

I was hoping this thread was about Cindy Sherman.

― Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Monday, 30 January 2006 02:58 (twenty years ago)

Cindy Sheehan can do as she pleases. It is immaterial who else it pleases. If her criticism of Feinstein hits home, it will probably be because the words she chooses find the target and stick to her all on their own. That is fair enough. She doesn't have enough money to run an efficient smear campaign.

― Aimless (Aimless), Monday, 30 January 2006 03:25 (twenty years ago)

I heard her on the Leonard Lopate show spouting off about the "truth" about the war, and I kept thinking "Leonard Lopate probably knows about 50 times as much as you do about the war."

― Abbadavid Berman (Hurting), Monday, 30 January 2006 04:57 (twenty years ago)

she got a big book deal too

― phil-two (phil-two), Monday, 30 January 2006 05:02 (twenty years ago)

Come on. She's too irresponsible. It's all about Cindy. Her airtime should be cut to zero to keep the message on point.

― DanielleIsNot, Monday, 30 January 2006 07:01 (twenty years ago)

Also, anyone figured out why Streisand remains a constant boogeyman to rightwingers?

Probably because of this. Plus stuff like this and many of the stories about her, er, less-than-liberal attitude towards wages and salaries in her own business life make her an easy target. Besides, it's sure easier than addressing actual issues.

Anyway, in the long run, it seems to me that Sheehan is becoming something of a liability, and that a lot of antiwar people are going to be sorry they hitched their wagons to this particular star. If only for the ease with which the right wing and their compliant media mouthpieces are going to be able to continue casting her as a completely-off-the-rails nutbag.

― phil d. (Phil D.), Monday, 30 January 2006 13:28 (twenty years ago)

Probably because of this. Plus stuff like this

I think it's more like stuff like this. Same reason they go after George Soros. Who's also Jewish.

― gabbneb (gabbneb), Monday, 30 January 2006 13:46 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, because there are like no Jewish conservatives out there. Nobody's ever heard of the National Review, Commentary, Paul Wolfowitz, The Kristols, David Brooks, etc.

― dudel, Wednesday, 1 February 2006 01:28 (twenty years ago)

the same national review that ran that long buckley authored series sixteen years back about how anti-semitism is a myth propagated by the jew run media and how it never really existed in america?

― j blount (papa la bas), Wednesday, 1 February 2006 01:30 (twenty years ago)

why is barbara streisand a boogieman to the right when charlie daniels isn't to the left? i mean i know you guys are thinskinned pussies but are you really so sensitive you can't handle barbara streisand???

― j blount (papa la bas), Wednesday, 1 February 2006 01:32 (twenty years ago)

You are completely out of your mind. Obviously you don't live in South Florida.

― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Wednesday, 1 February 2006 01:37 (twenty years ago)

I teach students whose parents fled Chavez's regime. For Sheehan to align herself with him made me lose whatever residual sympathy I held for her. Goes to show that the only people more deluded than the right by autocrats with totalitarian impulses are leftists.

― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Wednesday, 1 February 2006 01:38 (twenty years ago)

haha al i once got called a WAR CRIMINAL as bad as KISSINGER for suggesting chavez is no saint on ilx once - careful there!

― j blount (papa la bas), Wednesday, 1 February 2006 01:39 (twenty years ago)

There is no free press in Columbia. None. If you criticize Chavez you are shut down by the government and your editor either fined heavily or jailed, which happens anyway if you can't pay the fine. If you're any sort of liberal, the collapse of a free press in a country with an ostensibly leftist regime should horrify you.

― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Wednesday, 1 February 2006 01:42 (twenty years ago)

venezuela you mean i gather

― j blount (papa la bas), Wednesday, 1 February 2006 01:44 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, sorry...I was reading an article about Columbia at the same time.

― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Wednesday, 1 February 2006 01:47 (twenty years ago)

Actually I retract what I said about not having problems with Chavez. I have plenty of problems with Hugo Chavez, but I think I distrust a fair portion of his enemies even more than I do him so it's hard to gauge exactly how I feel about his "presidency". But yeah obv. the abolition of the free press and the Amnesty International reports and HRW reports are disturbing as hell.

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Wednesday, 1 February 2006 02:03 (twenty years ago)

If only for the ease with which the right wing and their compliant media mouthpieces are going to be able to continue casting her as a completely-off-the-rails nutbag.

Yeah, and maybe if she wasn't a completely-off-the-rails nutbag, it wouldn't be so fucking easy to cast her that way.

Is Sheehan Jewish? Please do tell, Rahmnebb.

― don weiner (don weiner), Wednesday, 1 February 2006 02:05 (twenty years ago)

But yeah obv. the abolition of the free press and the Amnesty International reports and HRW reports are disturbing as hell.

You'd think.

My impressions of Chavez's Venezuela in my brief visit two years back was not that of a full terror/police state. But it was clearly weighed heavily for Chavez in terms of the 2004 referendum and I am not surprised to note it getting worse.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 1 February 2006 02:08 (twenty years ago)

I had a dream about Chavez the other day.... I had watched "Bad Johnny [something]" and I thought I was a black Vietnam vet with a silver star....

― A BOLD QUAHOG (ex machina), Wednesday, 1 February 2006 02:20 (twenty years ago)

"But yeah obv. the abolition of the free press and the Amnesty International reports and HRW reports are disturbing as hell."

...but enough about the USA.

― everything, Wednesday, 1 February 2006 18:22 (twenty years ago)

Pfft.

― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Wednesday, 1 February 2006 18:29 (twenty years ago)

Is Sheehan Jewish? Please do tell, Rahmnebb.

gabb was referring to streisand and soros, don.

anyway, there's an AWFUL lot of sub-rosa anti-semitism that STILL exists on the right. (if not streisand and soros, then all the blather about "liberal elites" and "trial lawyers" also smells bad). just because there are some jewish conservatives does not change that fact -- no more than clarence thomas's partisan membership changes the facts of GOP racism.

― Eisbär (llamasfur), Wednesday, 1 February 2006 18:30 (twenty years ago)

gabb was referring to streisand and soros, don.

rillly? ya think? surely I don't have to spell out my sarcasm for ya.

If you (or Rahmneb) wants to make the case that Soros or Babs liberal elites (what, they're all Jewish now?) or trial lawyers (they're all Jewish, too?) catch hell from the right for anti-semetic reasons, then lay out your case instead of flinging whimsy intimations of guilt by association. Because if that's your tack, then you might as well condemn Mother Cindy while you're at it.

― don weiner (don weiner), Wednesday, 1 February 2006 18:56 (twenty years ago)

yeah, blount's got it. It's like the Jane Fonda thing; some (random?) public leftie is held up and attacked as the central icon of the other side, when the other side just reacts with a "dude, what the fuck are you TALKING about?" It's like there's something in these women(mostly women, innit?) that either so infuriates certain rightwing blowhards, or something about them which rightwing blowhards spot as a prime target to villify and maybe gain a few votes.

It seems immaterial whether they have anything to do with the fore-front of what either the democrats or the progressive cause as a whole are doing currently(even if they did at one time), or particularly care too much about.

Would this transfer over to Hillary, too? Maybe even Michael Moore, in terms of just a particularly namedrop used to incite?

does anybody follow what i'm trying to get at here?

― kingfish kuribo's shoe (kingfish 2.0), Wednesday, 1 February 2006 19:03 (twenty years ago)

You think moonbats and boogeymen and tragedy pimps are exclusive to the left? Are you having trouble with the names of Newt, Bob Barr, Pat Robertson, Anne Coulter, etc.? Of course we follow ya.

I don't think it will transfer over to Hillary. She's ditched most of her kooky friends.

― don weiner (don weiner), Wednesday, 1 February 2006 19:07 (twenty years ago)

You think moonbats and boogeymen and tragedy pimps are exclusive to the left?

oh hell no. it's not so much the namedropping boogieman process I'm question, it's the TARGETS of it. It seems like the (relatively powerless) folks they're using are just lazy choices. i mean, still using JANE FONDA(see the book cover upthread) as an attack point? It's like they can't be bothered to actually figure out who's presenting either driving things(Harry Reid) or being primed to drive things in the future(Obama).

Most leftie boogeymen are folks who are actually IN POWER(e.g. "cheney-rove", Tom Delay).

It's the selection process for rightwinger boogeymen that i'm wondering about. Perhaps it's just an extension or a result of only trading in lazy unquestioned narratives for so many years?

also, "tragedy pimps"?

― kingfish kuribo's shoe (kingfish 2.0), Wednesday, 1 February 2006 19:15 (twenty years ago)

I remember during the 2000 Democratic Convention when they showed that long intro shot of Clinton walking down a hallway on his way to the podium. The reason the shot was so long was because the party was putting up captions like EIGHT YEARS OF PEACE AND ECONOMIC GROWTH underneath the shot. However, the networks wouldn't carry the caption, thinking that crossed ethical grounds. The CNN producer in the booth was working the segment when the phone rings and it's BARBRA STREISAND CALLING UP TO BITCH ABOUT THE CAPTIONS NOT BEING SHOWN.

She's not as fair game as Charlton Heston, but she's in there.

― Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Wednesday, 1 February 2006 19:17 (twenty years ago)

Wow. That's a helluva example. Is it a matter of public profile, then?

― kingfish kuribo's shoe (kingfish 2.0), Wednesday, 1 February 2006 19:21 (twenty years ago)

"However, the networks wouldn't carry the caption, thinking that crossed ethical grounds."

That seems so quaint these days.

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Wednesday, 1 February 2006 19:26 (twenty years ago)

It's the selection process for rightwinger boogeymen that i'm wondering about.

I haven't ever seen an official rulebook but I assume that:

* they have to be publicity whores (they buy out full page advertisements in the NYTimes, they crave the spotlight, etc.)
* they have to be full of moonbat, egocentric, arrogant stupidity (Belafonte, et al)
* if they have a criminal record (i.e. homicide, leaving the scene of an accident, etc.) they will always be red meat (oh wait, Teddy the K is actually powerful. But still.)

I disagree with you Kingfish--there are plenty of rightwing boogeymen out there who are not in power. I also think that Harry Reid, when not leading his revolution in the Senate, takes lots and lots of shots from the predictable loudmouths on the right.

also, "tragedy pimps"?

Cindy Sheehan's favorite nickname. I think her antics last night made DiFi very, very afraid.

― don weiner (don weiner), Wednesday, 1 February 2006 19:36 (twenty years ago)

Jesus, I went to get coffee at the Starbucks in Pentagon City yesterday and no sooner did I sit down than some lunatic starts raving to me about how CS has no right to insult the President of our country. It's like, I'm not in NYC anymore; I shouldn't have to worry about being assaulted by the mentally deranged.

― Mary (Mary), Thursday, 2 February 2006 01:35 (twenty years ago)

"Leonard Lopate probably knows about 50 times as much as you do about the war."

Then again, he's paid to know more. It's not Cindy Sheehan's job to be well-informed or articulate about geopolitics, though I think it's unfortunate when she (or Harry Belafonte, who after 50 years in 'public life' should know better) can be used as a tool by Chavez (even if his primary domestic enemies are worse than he is).

― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 2 February 2006 20:49 (twenty years ago)

six years pass...

cretin

http://www.salon.com/2012/07/24/dianne_feinsteins_espionage/

― Pangborn to be Wilde (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 24 July 2012 19:23 (thirteen years ago)

yeah that makes me sick.

― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Tuesday, 24 July 2012 19:37 (thirteen years ago)

in my younger, more foolish days I gave her a pass for being pro-choice/pro-gun control but ugh she is just awful

― the alternate vision continues his vision quest! (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 24 July 2012 20:10 (thirteen years ago)

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