Polls Show Many Americans are Simply Dumber Than Bush

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Blind Ignorance: Polls Show Many Americans are Simply Dumber Than Bush

By PAUL CRAIG ROBERTS

Two recent polls, a Los Angeles Times/Bloomberg poll and a New York Times/CBS News poll, indicate why Bush is getting away with impeachable offenses. Half of the US population is incapable of acquiring, processing and understanding information.

the rest at:
counterpunch.org/roberts01292006.html

Ian in Brooklyn, Tuesday, 31 January 2006 23:56 (twenty years ago)

wow what a bad article

A BOLD QUAHOG (ex machina), Wednesday, 1 February 2006 00:02 (twenty years ago)

this is news?

dancing chicken (Jody Beth Rosen), Wednesday, 1 February 2006 00:02 (twenty years ago)

It's news to 50% of the populace I am guessing.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Wednesday, 1 February 2006 00:03 (twenty years ago)

that article is terrible.

Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 1 February 2006 00:03 (twenty years ago)

What explantion could there be for voting for bush, other than stupidity or malevolence?

stewart downes (sdownes), Wednesday, 1 February 2006 00:15 (twenty years ago)

Whoever wrote that shit is certainly dumber than Bush. And doesn't know much about analysing data, either.

The Man in the Iron-On Mask (noodle vague), Wednesday, 1 February 2006 00:19 (twenty years ago)

The questions on US "Who Wants To Be A Millionaire" are a lot easier, as well.

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Wednesday, 1 February 2006 00:19 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, the supposed "anomalies" here aren't even close to logically inconsistent:

Only 43 percent said they approved of Bush's performance as president. But a majority believe Bush's policies have made the US more secure. -- Why is it surprising that people would approve of a specific facet of someone's performance, more so than the performance as a whole? (Hell, people could think Bush's policies make the US more secure, but not as much more secure as they want.)

Sixty-four percent of the respondents have concerns about losing civil liberties as a result of anti-terrorism measures put in place by President Bush. Yet, 53 percent approve of spying without obtaining court warrants "in order to reduce the threat of terrorism." -- I.e., they're concerned about losing civil liberties, but for whatever reason they think warrantless spying might be a reasonable compromise on that front -- isn't this totally in keeping with the way most people just trust Bush's judgment on these issues? (Hell, they can support it and still be "concerned" about it.)

nabisco (nabisco), Wednesday, 1 February 2006 00:36 (twenty years ago)

The article may be shit, but the title wouldn't have been out of place in an issue of The Onion.

o. nate (onate), Wednesday, 1 February 2006 01:16 (twenty years ago)

Of course, this incredible finding proves once and for all that Kerry is a regular, ordinary American.

don weiner (don weiner), Wednesday, 1 February 2006 02:09 (twenty years ago)

Given the campaign that he ran that's not exactly shocking news.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Wednesday, 1 February 2006 02:29 (twenty years ago)

Circular reasoning as editorial comment.

Abbadavid Berman (Hurting), Wednesday, 1 February 2006 03:23 (twenty years ago)

also confirming conservative stereotypes about "elitist liberals"

31g (31g), Wednesday, 1 February 2006 03:26 (twenty years ago)

Well, it really is a pompous and stupid thing to say. I mean the "facts" he's talking about are certainly arguable and not exactly self-evident.

Abbadavid Berman (Hurting), Wednesday, 1 February 2006 03:33 (twenty years ago)

What does it say for democracy that half of the American population is unable to draw a rational conclusion from unambiguous facts?

The US comes less than halfway up the Rational-Secular axis on the Inglehart Values Map, far behind the nations of Protestant Europe and Confucian Asia. It may just be that rationality is not a very "American" value. Other things, like religion and the quest for power and domination (not itself a rational value), get in the way of understanding. The famous Bush aide quote suggests that understanding is for mere journalists:

"We're an empire now, and when we act, we create our own reality. And while you're studying that reality—judiciously, as you will—we'll act again, creating other new realities, which you can study too, and that's how things will sort out."

Momus (Momus), Wednesday, 1 February 2006 04:14 (twenty years ago)

who the guy is is interesting ~

Paul Craig Roberts was Assistant Secretary of the Treasury in the Reagan administration. He was Associate Editor of the Wall Street Journal editorial page and Contributing Editor of National Review.

larry blueberry, Wednesday, 1 February 2006 04:20 (twenty years ago)

Momus, can I drop my balls in your mouth?

A BOLD QUAHOG (ex machina), Wednesday, 1 February 2006 04:27 (twenty years ago)

Glad you liked my comment, big boy!

Momus (Momus), Wednesday, 1 February 2006 04:29 (twenty years ago)

something in counterpunch total shit shocker

geoff (gcannon), Wednesday, 1 February 2006 04:35 (twenty years ago)

nb i haven't read it.

that justly famous quote from the bush aide is really stunning, even now, and not something to just cringe at, i think. neocons bringing trotskyist idealism all the way across the aisle is like THE story of the past i don't know how many years.

geoff (gcannon), Wednesday, 1 February 2006 05:07 (twenty years ago)

The LA and NY Times polls Roberts cites don't even tell half the story.

According to a Time magazine poll, 59% of Americans believe that John’s apocalyptic prophecies in the Book of Revelation will be fulfilled, and nearly all of these believe that the faithful will be taken up into heaven in the ‘Rapture.’

The University of Connecticut's State of the First Amendment survey found:

34 percent of Americans polled said the First Amendment ‘goes too far’.
46 percent said there was too much freedom of the press.
28 percent felt that newspapers should not be able to publish articles without prior approval of the government.
31 percent wanted public protest of a war to be outlawed during that war.
50 percent thought the government should have the right to infringe on the religious freedom of ‘certain religious groups’ in the name of the war on terror.

These poll results are collected in Gore Vidal's article President Jonah. Vidal also reports that only 12% of Americans own a passport, and that at the time of the 2004 presidential election 42% of voters believed that Saddam Hussein was involved in 9/11.

Momus (Momus), Wednesday, 1 February 2006 05:41 (twenty years ago)

There's also the American Environics survey, which found that:

"Between 1992 and 2004, for example, the percentage of people who said they agree that “the father of the family must be the master in his own house” increased ten points, from 42 to 52 percent, in the 2,500-person Environics survey. The percentage agreeing that “men are naturally superior to women” increased from 30 percent to 40 percent. Meanwhile, the fraction that said they discussed local problems with people they knew plummeted from 66 percent to 39 percent. Survey respondents were also increasingly accepting of the value that “violence is a normal part of life” -- and that figure had doubled even before the al-Qaeda terrorist attacks."

Momus (Momus), Wednesday, 1 February 2006 05:44 (twenty years ago)

One nitpicky thing -- I think using that passport stat is unfair. Travel outside the U.S. (excluding Canada and Mexico) is enormously expensive and takes a very long time from the U.S.! It's not like Europe where you can just pop over to another country one day. I hadn't traveled abroad in about seven years as of my last trip, and my passport was long expired.

Abbadavid Berman (Hurting), Wednesday, 1 February 2006 05:45 (twenty years ago)

yeah, Gore Vidal thinking that 12% is revealing reveals a lot more about his wealthy UpperCrust background "what, you didn't go to Tuscany this year????"

del unser, Wednesday, 1 February 2006 05:57 (twenty years ago)

A lot of that stuff is pretty jawdropping, but I kind of suspect you could find equally batshit poll results from other countries if you asked about different topics.

Also, I don't really know how reliable this stuff is, since I'm not a statistician and don't care enough to examine the details closely.

um, xpost?

31g (31g), Wednesday, 1 February 2006 05:57 (twenty years ago)

hmmm, bit late now...

Sororah T Massacre (blueski), Wednesday, 1 February 2006 12:39 (twenty years ago)

First coke now oil, any more addictions Bush wants to 'fess up to?

Dadaismus (Dada), Wednesday, 1 February 2006 13:01 (twenty years ago)

"What's that black stuff on your nose, George?"
"Nothing. Mind your own."

tissp! (the impossible shortest specia), Wednesday, 1 February 2006 13:03 (twenty years ago)

Close to half of Americans are of below-average intelligence.

Nemo (JND), Wednesday, 1 February 2006 13:17 (twenty years ago)

may just be that rationality is not a very "American" value.

This is painfully OTM.

Dan (Explain President Bush Any Other Way) Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 1 February 2006 13:54 (twenty years ago)


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