However, when I approach others, they usually just say no. Last time I tried, it was a frat dude and his orange-tanned girlfriend who denied me with cruel and reproachful laughter.
This is with strangers, mind, among friends it's no big deal to ask or share. It's weird having people walking in the opposite direction dash across the street to ask me for a cigarette, but I am happy to oblige becuase I know the lousiness of having none.
So why do most folx on campus deny me? I use the typical approach, I have social grace. Is this an unwritten rule or have I just been a sharing dupe?
Sorry if there's been a thread on this, my search function is kaputt.
― Abbott (Abbott), Tuesday, 21 February 2006 05:34 (twenty years ago)
― Austin Still (Austin, Still), Tuesday, 21 February 2006 05:44 (twenty years ago)
― Smoky Joe, Tuesday, 21 February 2006 05:55 (twenty years ago)
(FWIW, I'm well aware of (at least some of) my own ugly behavior, and am quite certain that some borderline addictive behaviors contribute to them.)
― Austin Still (Austin, Still), Tuesday, 21 February 2006 06:15 (twenty years ago)
― ath (ath), Tuesday, 21 February 2006 06:45 (twenty years ago)
Well duh. Ask the emo single people. They aren't acting to impress all the time.
― StanM (StanM), Tuesday, 21 February 2006 07:10 (twenty years ago)
― tehresa (tehresa), Tuesday, 21 February 2006 07:14 (twenty years ago)
But those are still the people to ask. They'll be so impressed a girl actually noticed them, they won't be able to say no. That's what happened when I still smoked. Since I stopped, girls don't notice m- hey! That's why I've been so single the last couple of years! Woohoo! Thanks!
― StanM (StanM), Tuesday, 21 February 2006 07:23 (twenty years ago)
― ALLAH FROG (Mingus Dew), Tuesday, 21 February 2006 07:32 (twenty years ago)
― Mr Jones (Mr Jones), Tuesday, 21 February 2006 07:45 (twenty years ago)
― accentmonkey (accentmonkey), Tuesday, 21 February 2006 07:55 (twenty years ago)
And then there's cute girls in bars who flutter their eylids and then ignore you once they've got their cigarette. WHORES, WHORES, THEY'RE ALL WHORES.
― Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 21 February 2006 08:09 (twenty years ago)
― StanM (StanM), Tuesday, 21 February 2006 08:13 (twenty years ago)
Some of my best friends in my clubbing days only smoked other people's cigs and even in my happiest moods it used to piss me off.
― accentmonkey (accentmonkey), Tuesday, 21 February 2006 10:24 (twenty years ago)
-- Alba
Oh dear, I was utterly guilty of this last Friday, although I did swap a cigarette for a lighter. And I do give them out myself to prop up karma. But you still like me N, Trish, right? Don't you?
― Anna (Anna), Tuesday, 21 February 2006 10:27 (twenty years ago)
― Abu Hamster (noodle vague), Tuesday, 21 February 2006 10:29 (twenty years ago)
Anyway, I don't smoke anymore so it no longer affects me.
But in general I am one of those people who acts generously and then complains bitterly about it afterwards.
― accentmonkey (accentmonkey), Tuesday, 21 February 2006 10:32 (twenty years ago)
― Anna (Anna), Tuesday, 21 February 2006 10:42 (twenty years ago)
― Boris and the Johnsons (kate), Tuesday, 21 February 2006 10:45 (twenty years ago)
― Tuomas (Tuomas), Tuesday, 21 February 2006 11:11 (twenty years ago)
― ratty, Tuesday, 21 February 2006 11:19 (twenty years ago)
― adam (adam), Tuesday, 21 February 2006 12:53 (twenty years ago)
― Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 21 February 2006 12:59 (twenty years ago)
That said, if I've got more than two, I'll give them away gladly - I was ALWAYS that guy, and I always try to bring the balance back, karmicly speaking.
― Big Loud Mountain Ape (Big Loud Mountain Ape), Tuesday, 21 February 2006 13:48 (twenty years ago)
(but if we're speaking karmically, ive got a lot of giving to do)
― pssst - badass revolutionary art! (plsmith), Tuesday, 21 February 2006 14:06 (twenty years ago)
I do find however that the 'can I buy a smoke off you' with a quarter (or a loonie!) in hand works both ways, even though no one ever accepts the money after (I think you have to insist once, they deny once, make sure the money isn't wanted and once the confirmation is in, flash a 'aw shucks, thanks kind stranger' smile and voila... cute little dance).
I also never approach tables; I find seated people yield a very low rate.
― alex in montreal (alex in montreal), Tuesday, 21 February 2006 14:13 (twenty years ago)
Tumoas, unless you're bumming smokes off your friends and eating them, then you haven't given up smoking.
― accentmonkey (accentmonkey), Tuesday, 21 February 2006 14:25 (twenty years ago)
― Archel (Archel), Tuesday, 21 February 2006 14:28 (twenty years ago)
― Boris and the Johnsons (kate), Tuesday, 21 February 2006 14:29 (twenty years ago)
― Archel (Archel), Tuesday, 21 February 2006 14:31 (twenty years ago)
― chap who would dare to be completely sober on the internet (chap), Tuesday, 21 February 2006 14:31 (twenty years ago)
― jeffrey (johnson), Tuesday, 21 February 2006 14:32 (twenty years ago)
― Big Loud Mountain Ape (Big Loud Mountain Ape), Tuesday, 21 February 2006 14:34 (twenty years ago)
― pssst - badass revolutionary art! (plsmith), Tuesday, 21 February 2006 14:38 (twenty years ago)
Roffle, is this like the gay version of "Do I dare to eat a peach"?
― JimD (JimD), Tuesday, 21 February 2006 14:40 (twenty years ago)
i hate my smart siblings.
― Big Loud Mountain Ape (Big Loud Mountain Ape), Tuesday, 21 February 2006 14:43 (twenty years ago)
― POOP BITCH (Mandee), Tuesday, 21 February 2006 14:45 (twenty years ago)
― Archel (Archel), Tuesday, 21 February 2006 14:50 (twenty years ago)
― Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 21 February 2006 14:51 (twenty years ago)
― Archel (Archel), Tuesday, 21 February 2006 14:53 (twenty years ago)
― accentmonkey (accentmonkey), Tuesday, 21 February 2006 15:04 (twenty years ago)
― Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 21 February 2006 15:27 (twenty years ago)
― ai lien (kold_krush), Tuesday, 21 February 2006 15:30 (twenty years ago)
Well, yeah, I should've said "I've give up regular smoking". I'm a when-drunk-in-a-pub smoker these days, but I'm trying to quit that too, it's just that it's damn hard.
I always thought it was weird that it's (fairly) socially acceptable to ask strangers for a cigarette. I can't think of anything else you'd ask for in that way - 'can I bum a jaffa cake? opal fruit? packet of frazzles? carton of orange juice?' No.
Cigarettes are one of the most addicitive things there is. It'd be kinda hard to explain to some random stranger why you'd really need to get a jaffa cake from her. And don't forget the social acpect of it: I've met some great people while bumming for fags, and vice versa. Though I guess you could meet interesting people while bumming for jaffa cakes too.
― Tuomas (Tuomas), Tuesday, 21 February 2006 15:36 (twenty years ago)
We did that in school. "Butts on you" was the phrase used. It was an innocent time in many ways. Also a broke time. God bless the shifty shopkeeper who would sell you loose fags.
― accentmonkey (accentmonkey), Tuesday, 21 February 2006 15:39 (twenty years ago)
― Tuomas (Tuomas), Tuesday, 21 February 2006 15:43 (twenty years ago)
― ai lien (kold_krush), Tuesday, 21 February 2006 15:44 (twenty years ago)
― Boris and the Johnsons (kate), Tuesday, 21 February 2006 15:45 (twenty years ago)
― ken c (ken c), Tuesday, 21 February 2006 15:47 (twenty years ago)
a for "can i buy one" this happened to my friend who i was with the other night. if someone asked me this i would have a million times less repsect for them than if they just staright out asked for one - the supposed "buyer" of the cigarette knows that theres no way your gonna take 20p or some shit off them, so its just a lame conscience/face saving get out technique, but so transparent its almost embarrassing
― ambrose (ambrose), Tuesday, 21 February 2006 15:51 (twenty years ago)
http://www.pointedmagazine.com/seal%20story%202%20top.jpg
― Dan (Arf Arf) Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 21 February 2006 15:55 (twenty years ago)
― Allyzay Rofflesberger (allyzay), Tuesday, 21 February 2006 16:06 (twenty years ago)
I hardly ever ask, FWIW. And when the transaction is successful, I invariably end up with a Camel Light, which is karmic justice right there for you.
― Abbott (Abbott), Tuesday, 21 February 2006 16:08 (twenty years ago)
― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 21 February 2006 16:10 (twenty years ago)
― Onimomgiwantaciggie (GerryNemo), Tuesday, 21 February 2006 16:12 (twenty years ago)
― Allyzay Rofflesberger (allyzay), Tuesday, 21 February 2006 16:12 (twenty years ago)
― ambrose (ambrose), Tuesday, 21 February 2006 16:24 (twenty years ago)
Yeah but people don't give out fags on the basis that the bummer (ahem) is addicted, do they? It's just a sort of slightly awkward social expectation and a reluctance to say no. I COULD be addicted to jaffa cakes. I'd still get much weirder looks than if I needed a cigarette.
Come to think of it, I'm going to SMASH this unfair system whereby smokers get free fags and I don't get free jaffa cakes. Weird looks be damned.
― Archel (Archel), Tuesday, 21 February 2006 16:28 (twenty years ago)
― JimD (JimD), Tuesday, 21 February 2006 17:10 (twenty years ago)
― Archel (Archel), Tuesday, 21 February 2006 17:11 (twenty years ago)
― Tuomas (Tuomas), Tuesday, 21 February 2006 19:17 (twenty years ago)
― Special Agent Gene Krupa (orion), Tuesday, 21 February 2006 19:21 (twenty years ago)
― Special Agent Gene Krupa (orion), Tuesday, 21 February 2006 19:22 (twenty years ago)
― Special Agent Gene Krupa (orion), Tuesday, 21 February 2006 19:23 (twenty years ago)
― Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Tuesday, 21 February 2006 19:24 (twenty years ago)
― Tuomas (Tuomas), Tuesday, 21 February 2006 19:25 (twenty years ago)
― Allyzay Rofflesberger (allyzay), Tuesday, 21 February 2006 19:29 (twenty years ago)
xpost
WEED IS NOT **NEARLY** SO BAD FOR ME AS CIGARETTES WOULD BE, ALLY, YOU KNOW THAT.
― Special Agent Gene Krupa (orion), Tuesday, 21 February 2006 19:29 (twenty years ago)
― Allyzay Rofflesberger (allyzay), Tuesday, 21 February 2006 19:30 (twenty years ago)
― Allyzay Rofflesberger (allyzay), Tuesday, 21 February 2006 19:31 (twenty years ago)
― Special Agent Gene Krupa (orion), Tuesday, 21 February 2006 19:32 (twenty years ago)
You light-cigarette-smoking bitches.
*hack*
― Big Loud Mountain Ape (Big Loud Mountain Ape), Tuesday, 21 February 2006 19:59 (twenty years ago)
― accentmonkey (accentmonkey), Tuesday, 21 February 2006 22:05 (twenty years ago)
― s1ocki (slutsky), Tuesday, 21 February 2006 23:59 (twenty years ago)
― M. White (Miguelito), Wednesday, 22 February 2006 00:01 (twenty years ago)
Ive never bummed off a stranger. I've nicked friends smokes when drunkass at a club, but I hate being That Guy when I do it.
― Trayce (trayce), Wednesday, 22 February 2006 00:17 (twenty years ago)
― shookout (shookout), Wednesday, 22 February 2006 00:20 (twenty years ago)
I can't stand when people come up to me with a quarter and an expecting look. Do I look like a fucking cigarette dispenser? The sooner these cigarettes run out, the sooner I have to walk up to the one store in town that still sells cigs for $4 a pack.
I was at work smoking out in front one time, and I had this group of tan tourists come up to me and ask for a smoke. I flatly said "nope", and he was all shocked, and said, "I've... never had anybody say that to me before." I shrugged, and he walked away.
DIE! I don't care about smoker's etiquette. Fuck having comradery with smokers; I don't need smokes from any of you. I don't care if you like me or not! I have the foresight to know that I'm going to want to smoke more than three cigs if I'm drinking, so get this: I BUY CIGARETTES BEFORE I GO TO THE BAR! Imagine that! What a novel idea! I don't give a shit if Vice Magazine tells me I'm a dick for not wanting to pass out cigarettes, either!
― josh in sf (stfu kthx), Wednesday, 22 February 2006 00:52 (twenty years ago)
― Trayce (trayce), Wednesday, 22 February 2006 01:04 (twenty years ago)
― ALLAH FROG (Mingus Dew), Wednesday, 22 February 2006 01:51 (twenty years ago)
― slb, Wednesday, 22 February 2006 02:16 (twenty years ago)
for a VERY brief moment, packs of smokes were going for $3/pack in pennsylvania -- which made the NYC-to-philly commute thing i did somewhat bearable. but that lasted all of a month -- i guess someone in harrisburg noticed that folks in trenton and albany were clocking mad dollars on the sin taxes, looked at the PA budget deficit, smacked their lips in ecstasy, and smokes in philly were no longer a bargain. last i checked (more than a year ago), they were still $3/pack in delaware -- dunno if that's still true. and i'm not about to waste a day travelling b/w NYC and wilmington to find out.
― Eisbär (llamasfur), Wednesday, 22 February 2006 03:11 (twenty years ago)
― Eisbär (llamasfur), Wednesday, 22 February 2006 03:18 (twenty years ago)
― ALLAH FROG (Mingus Dew), Wednesday, 22 February 2006 03:44 (twenty years ago)
― nervous (cochere), Wednesday, 22 February 2006 05:38 (twenty years ago)
You have got to be fucking kidding??
― JimD (JimD), Wednesday, 22 February 2006 09:26 (twenty years ago)
― nervous (cochere), Wednesday, 22 February 2006 10:10 (twenty years ago)
this time i accepted because i have not enough money
the end
― nervous (cochere), Thursday, 22 June 2006 19:06 (nineteen years ago)
― scout (scout), Friday, 23 June 2006 00:11 (nineteen years ago)
― Abbott (Abbott), Friday, 23 June 2006 02:05 (nineteen years ago)
― Hex's Hero (scarlet), Friday, 23 June 2006 09:07 (nineteen years ago)
― ken c (ken c), Friday, 23 June 2006 09:43 (nineteen years ago)