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I'm going to look into joining ACORN next week and see what they think, but some kind of vocal advocacy of a basic platform is needed nationwide, and maybe we need a new organization for that. Here's what I'd support, anyway:

#1, rebuild levees to withstand category 5 hurricanes

#2, provide transportation, temporary housing, and jobs to anyone who wants to return and participate in the reconstruction

#3, enact some Baker-like plan for federally-guaranteed bail-out of property owners, but maybe with the condition that half these properties be re-sold at below-market rates, or developed as subsidized mixed- and low-income housing

#4, re-bid all no-bid contracts and fire those companies that either failed New Orleans or are ripping off tax payers (give preference to regional companies)

#5, restore coastal wetlands

#6, come up with an evacuation plan for when the current levees get topped again

#7, raise minimum wage for anyone working on govt. contracts; recognize unions in all these industries

#8, close the Mississippi River Gulf Outlet

#9, restore 15 percent of the city to wetlands, but in a socially equitable manner

#10, protect the property rights of homeowners, and include representatives of the effected communities on every level of planning

#11, reopen and rebuild the schools, hospitals, and other essentials

#12, subsidize temporary housing for renters to return home to work in New Orleans; fill all current vacancies with federal housing vouchers

#13, set up polling places in Houston and Atlanta for evacuees to vote...

What else?

Pete Scholtes (Pete Scholtes), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 00:54 (eighteen years ago) link

Am I missing the "impeach the president" bullet point?

Forksclovetofu (Forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 00:56 (eighteen years ago) link

#4, re-bid all no-bid contracts and fire those companies that either failed New Orleans or are ripping off tax payers (give preference to regional companies)

This strikes me as an either-or situation. You can't open the contracts to competitive biddng AND give preference to regional companies.

Abbadavid Berman (Hurting), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 00:58 (eighteen years ago) link

I obviously have no idea how the bidding process works, but couldn't you sort of artificially inflate the bids of regional companies with some kind of federal offset? I'm obviously beginning from a place of passion rather than knowledge...

Pete Scholtes (Pete Scholtes), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 01:01 (eighteen years ago) link

#5 and #9 could be compressed into one point, maybe?

Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 01:03 (eighteen years ago) link

Maybe, but #9 is a lot more controversial...

Pete Scholtes (Pete Scholtes), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 01:07 (eighteen years ago) link

#14, come up with a plan to clean up the environment in New Orleans

Pete Scholtes (Pete Scholtes), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 01:07 (eighteen years ago) link

the latest mike davis nation article on rebuilding new orleans was seriously depressing. looks like it's gonna be a "living museum" theme park and playground for southern millionaires no matter what.

send your men of science quick (Jody Beth Rosen), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 01:09 (eighteen years ago) link

xpost I'm no expert on the process either, but my understanding is that it's not legal to give preference in a government contract bidding process. At the same time, I do wonder how they manage to give out no-bid contracts in the first place. Must be some kind of legal loophole, I guess.

Abbadavid Berman (Hurting), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 01:10 (eighteen years ago) link

Did you read to the end of the article?

http://www.thenation.com/doc/20060410/davis

"...[This] minstrel-show version of the future must first defeat a remarkable local history of grassroots organization. The Crescent City's best-kept secret--in the mainstream press, at least--has been the resurgence of trade-union and community organizing since the mid-1990s. Indeed, New Orleans, the only Southern city in which labor was ever powerful enough to call a general strike, has become an important crucible of new social movements. In particular, it has become the home base of ACORN, a national organization of working-class homeowners and tenants that counts more than 9,000 New Orleans member-families, mostly in triage-threatened black neighborhoods. ACORN's membership has been the engine behind the tumultuous, decade-long struggle to unionize downtown hotels as well as the successful 2002 referendum to legislate the nation's first municipal minimum wage (later overthrown by a right-wing state Supreme Court). Since Katrina, ACORN has emerged as the major opponent of the ULI/BNOB plan for shrinking the city. Its members find themselves again fighting many of the same elite figures who were opponents of hotel unionization and a living wage.

"ACORN founder Wade Rathke scoffs at the RAND Corporation projections that portray most blacks abandoning the city. "Don't believe those phony figures," he told me over beignets at Cafe du Monde in January. "We have polled our displaced members in Houston and Atlanta. Folks overwhelmingly want to return. But they realize that this is a tough struggle, since we have to fight simultaneously on two fronts: to restore people's homes and to bring back their jobs. It is also a race against time. The challenge is, You make it, you take it. So our members are voting with their feet."

"Not waiting for CDBGs, FEMA flood maps or permission from Canizaro, ACORN crews and volunteers from across the country are working night and day to repair the homes of 1,000 member-families in some of the most threatened areas. The strategy is to confront the city-shrinkers with the incontestable fact of reoccupied, viable neighborhood cores.

"ACORN has allied with the AFL-CIO and the NAACP to defend worker rights and press for the hiring of locals in the recovery effort. Rathke points out that Katrina has become the pretext for the most vicious government-supported attack on unions since President Reagan fired striking air-traffic controllers in 1981. "First, suspension of Davis-Bacon [federal prevailing wage law], then the state takeover of the schools and the destruction of the teachers' union, and now this." He points to a beat-up green garbage truck rattling by Jackson Square. "Trash collection in the French Quarter used to be a unionized city job, SEIU members. Now FEMA has contracted the work to a scab company from out of state. Is this what Bring New Orleans Back means?"

"ACORN also went to court to insure that New Orleans's displaced, largely black population would have access to out-of-state polling places, especially in Atlanta and Houston, for the scheduled April 22 city elections. When a federal judge rejected the demand, ACORN organizer Stephen Bradberry said it's "so obvious that there's a concerted plan to make this a whiter city." The NAACP agrees, but the Justice Department denied its request to block an election that is likely to transfer power to the artificial white majority created by Katrina.

"It would be inspiring to see in this latest battle of New Orleans the birth pangs of a new or renewed civil rights movement, but gritty local activism has yet to be echoed in meaningful solidarity by the labor movement, so-called progressive Democrats or even the Congressional Black Caucus. Pledges, press statements and occasional delegations, yes; but not the unfaltering national outrage and sense of urgency that should attend the attempted murder of New Orleans on the fortieth anniversary of the Voting Rights Act. In 1874, as historian Ted Tunnell has pointed out, the failure of Northern Radicals to launch a militant, armed riposte to the white insurrection in New Orleans helped to doom the first Reconstruction. Will our feeble response to Hurricane Katrina now lead to the rollback of the second?"

Pete Scholtes (Pete Scholtes), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 01:12 (eighteen years ago) link

yeah i'm pretty familiar with ACORN, i'm just wondering how much power they'll actually be able to wield.

send your men of science quick (Jody Beth Rosen), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 01:13 (eighteen years ago) link

Well, it's a national organization. I'll find out more soon as I can...

Pete Scholtes (Pete Scholtes), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 01:17 (eighteen years ago) link

It is legal to give preference in government bids - it's called a "set-aside" and is done for minority-owned, woman-owned, and small businesses on many contracts. What qualifies as a regional business though? One that has a post office box in Baton Rouge, maybe owned by a local individual, but hires its workers from from out of state (or out of country)? The company I work for is a huge multi-national based out of CA, but our offices in Katrina-affected areas employ several thousand local people. So, if you are going to have wording like this, you may want to be very specific about what is "regional" or "local".

Jaq (Jaq), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 02:34 (eighteen years ago) link

how about building New Orleans ON a platform, because you're still going to be under sea-level.

Seriously, this is a project that is so massive and logistically nightmarish, I don't know where to begin. Good Luck!

timmy tannin (pompous), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 02:39 (eighteen years ago) link

MORE DRUGS FOR THE SODOMITES!!!

Esteban Buttez Goes To College, Tuesday, 28 March 2006 02:39 (eighteen years ago) link

didya read the article in the new yorker a little while ago about how the entire gulf coast is sinking into the sea? the long term prospects for the region are not good.

jhoshea (scoopsnoodle), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 03:23 (eighteen years ago) link

I wish I could be as positive about ACORN as Mike Davis but I am not.

Bush and the Republics seem uninterested in building the levees to category 5 level or to restoring the wetlands. FEMA won't even draw up the flood insurance maps that have been promised (and there's still no new permanent head of FEMA). It's all well and good to say you want 9th Warders to return, but to what--unless you can protect the folks from flooding, you're sentencing them to another Katrina or worse. And of course pre-Katrina New Orleans had its problems that still need to be dealt with--good luck in getting the Republicans (actually any politicians of either party) to propose anything creative regarding education, job-training, crime, etc.

Musically, Without the school system and young African-Americans in brass bands learning from their elders in brass bands, it's not clear how vital this culture can remain. Certain brass bands and related Mardi Gras Indian troups will hold on, but they'll be more isolated. But these musicians, be they now stuck in a Disney museum city or not, deserve support and not dismissal as minstrels. And folks of all races shouldn't be ashamed to see them and support them.

curmudgeon, Tuesday, 28 March 2006 05:20 (eighteen years ago) link

acorn always seemed sort of odd to me -- lots of the services they provide require you join acorn and pay dues and do activity with them and soforth, they do decent things no doubt, but i'm a) more dubious about their role in union organizing drives and etc. from what i've seen and b) sorta sensing that they're really sort of like the urban league of the 20s in a way, like an extension of precinct machine politics as much as anything else. in chicago i remember passing one acorn rally in the loop vis a vis immigrant rights where they were pretty much just arguing "immigrants work cheap and hard" which was hardly an inspiring msg.

Sterling Clover (s_clover), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 05:29 (eighteen years ago) link

I'll answer these one at a time:

how about building New Orleans ON a platform, because you're still going to be under sea-level.

Let me quote the conservative American Spectator:

"Instead, the most important and most misplaced assignment of culpability comes from the Bush administration and far too many Beltway conservatives who seem to blame Louisiana Katrina victims for building in a flood plain. (Never mind that the White House itself is in a flood plain without anybody thinking that West Wing employees need flood insurance.) The problem with this blame game is that the residents had been assured that they lived in one of the safest flood plains in the country, because the top civil engineering minds in the country had repeatedly said their levee-and-floodwall system could withstand any storm that hit southeast Louisiana with the force Katrina mustered. It was the federal Army Corps of Engineers that built the floodwalls and was ultimately responsible for maintaining them -- and the Corps said the walls would hold."

http://www.spectator.org/dsp_article.asp?art_id=9511

Pete Scholtes (Pete Scholtes), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 15:01 (eighteen years ago) link

didya read the article in the new yorker a little while ago about how the entire gulf coast is sinking into the sea? the long term prospects for the region are not good.

The long term prospects are what we make them. This was quoted on ILM, but here's the Nation in January:

Even if those levees finally get built, they won't do the trick by themselves; engineers will have to learn to work with the city's peculiar ecology rather than trying to dominate it. "Wetlands must be part of the solution," Bea says. If swamps aren't reintroduced, storm surges will overwhelm even the best levees. And if ocean levels keep rising and New Orleans keeps sinking, the city will drown again.

Craig Colten, a Louisiana State University geographer, agrees. He insists low-lying parts of the city shouldn't be rebuilt. His proposal is extremely controversial, with displaced residents understandably invoking their "right of return" and with most members of the reconstruction committees reluctant to reintegrate wetlands into the city after Mayor Nagin got burned for suggesting that the Ninth Ward might not be rebuilt. But Colten still believes that part of the backswamp should ooze into selected low-lying areas. An equitable method, he believes, would be to "take land from many neighborhoods--Lakefront, Ninth Ward, Gentilly--and relocate rich, poor, middle class to denser settlement on higher ground." Colten's "new New Orleans," then, would resemble the old New Orleans--from an era before wetlands vanished. It would also touch off battles over whose neighborhoods should be abandoned.

http://www.thenation.com/docprint.mhtml?i=20060102&s=kelman

Pete Scholtes (Pete Scholtes), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 15:08 (eighteen years ago) link

The long term prospects are what we make them.

true, we could do like holland. but we have a lot of land in our country that's not below sea level. so...

i'm not totally sold on abandoning nola, but i think it should at least be considered. it would be a horrible loss - it's one of the great cities in the us. but it's not just nola, it's the whole region that's sinking, while ocean levels are rising. even if we do build the world's greatest levees and let the wetlands return, what will be left in a hundred years? two hundred? an island? are we just setting up the returning residents for more death and suffering?

jhoshea (scoopsnoodle), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 15:21 (eighteen years ago) link

It's all well and good to say you want 9th Warders to return, but to what.

To reconstruction jobs and temporary housing, with federal housing vouchers filling every vacancy. After Katrina, the vacancy rate in New Orleans was insane. Here's Naomi Klein last September:

As for the hundreds of thousands of residents whose low-lying homes and housing projects were destroyed by the flood, Drennen points out that many of those neighborhoods were dysfunctional to begin with. He says the city now has an opportunity for "twenty-first-century thinking": Rather than rebuild ghettos, New Orleans should be resettled with "mixed income" housing, with rich and poor, black and white living side by side.

What Drennen doesn't say is that this kind of urban integration could happen tomorrow, on a massive scale. Roughly 70,000 of New Orleans' poorest homeless evacuees could move back to the city alongside returning white homeowners, without a single new structure being built. Take the Lower Garden District, where Drennen himself lives. It has a surprisingly high vacancy rate--17.4 percent, according to the 2000 Census. At that time 702 housing units stood vacant, and since the market hasn't improved and the district was barely flooded, they are presumably still there and still vacant. It's much the same in the other dry areas: With landlords preferring to board up apartments rather than lower rents, the French Quarter has been half-empty for years, with a vacancy rate of 37 percent.

http://www.thenation.com/doc/20051010/klein
http://www.thenation.com/doc/20051010/doing_the_math

When I went down to Mardi Gras, I rented space in Treme from a friend who's having trouble paying his mortgage. There were tons of empty, standing housing on high ground that workers could live in temporarily. There should be a government program matching evacuees who want to work with housing, paid for with vouchers provided by the government responsible for the levee failure.

Pete Scholtes (Pete Scholtes), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 15:24 (eighteen years ago) link

Here's a letter to the editor I found on the web in response to that New Yorker piece:

Letter to the Editors of the New Yorker Magazine
Re: Watermark: Can southern Louisiana be saved?

by Elizabeth Kolbert


Elizabeth Kolbert’s article, Watermark: Can southern Louisiana be saved? does an excellent job of highlighting the myriad contingencies of geologic history and public policy that are leading to the slow “drowning” of the Louisiana coast. But I believe that the tone of the article is overly pessimistic and inaccurately promotes an air of futility regarding the efforts to restore and sustain the coastal habitats of Louisiana. The fact is that there is hope for us.

The article focuses on the high subsidence rates occurring within impounded areas inside of levee systems where natural hydrology has been altered and land subsidence rates are highest. This paints an extremely fatalistic picture that is neither characteristic of the entire region nor irreversible.

Local experts, including scientists, engineers, biologists, the business community, fishermen, and state, federal and local agencies have been working in Louisiana’s coastal restoration arena for decades and have very promising solutions at hand. Cutter-head dredges, commonly used to make way for navigation, can easily harvest sediments from river bottoms or offshore sources and then transport them through an infrastructure of pipelines to areas of degraded marsh or shallow open water. The technique has been used to build roads, subdivisions, and, in a few isolated cases, wetlands. Instead of the current practice of dumping dredged sediments from the Mississippi River off of the continental shelf, we can and must begin to use them to build land mechanically on a large scale and then sustain the newly created marshes with small diversions of fresh water from the Mississippi River and other sources.

It is within our ability to significantly amend Louisiana’s trend of land loss, and there is no question as to whether or not we, as a nation, should commit to doing so. The doom that this article predicts for southern Louisiana will occur only if we turn our backs on this incredible issue. Louisiana marshes protect the largest shipping and fuel corridors in the US; they provide nurseries for shrimp, oysters, crabs and a variety of fish species. Perhaps most importantly the 2 million people who live in Louisiana’s coastal zone depend on these wetland habitats to protect and sustain one of the most incredibly unique cultures on earth. For 10,000 years Mississippi River sediments conquered the natural subsidence rates in south Louisiana. It still can! Can America truly afford the price of doing nothing when a restoration solution is at hand?

Thank you the opportunity to offer my opinion.

Sincerely,


Kerry M. St.Pé
Program Director

http://disc.server.com/discussion.cgi?disc=231355;article=1389;title=REBUILDING%20LOUISIANA%20COALITION%20Discussion%20ListSERVE

Pete Scholtes (Pete Scholtes), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 15:47 (eighteen years ago) link

And for reference, here's the original piece:

http://www.newyorker.com/fact/content/articles/060227fa_fact2

Thing is, you could take current environmental trends and write a piece about how it's futile to save the world. Does that mean we should throw up our hands and actively help destroy it? Read that Nation wetlands piece linked above: The sinking of New Orleans, at least, is a man-made phenomenon.

Pete Scholtes (Pete Scholtes), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 15:50 (eighteen years ago) link

Which brings up global warming, a subject I know little about, except that I remember news reports in the late '90s when astronauts confirmed the hole the ozone layer that so many claimed wasn't there. My prejudice remains: There will always be people out there working hard to convince you that everything is just fine, and that if it's not, it's the inevitable course of Mother Nature.

Pete Scholtes (Pete Scholtes), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 15:54 (eighteen years ago) link

guys like whats-his-bucket from the urban land institute WANT to create an air of futility and predetermination so there'll be a clear field to develop whatever nastiness they desire. and they've got nagin in the pocket, so there goes the supposed voice of the people (those great speeches and interviews he was giving immediately after katrina made me hopeful).

the only thing new orleans can do to save itself is get the law on its side -- get good lawyers (and experts) and pray for sympathetic judges.

send your men of science quick (Jody Beth Rosen), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 16:04 (eighteen years ago) link

good luck in getting the Republicans (actually any politicians of either party) to propose anything creative regarding education, job-training, crime, etc.

Why do we need to wait for politicians to propose anything? Politicians didn't destroy Jim Crow, people did. Almost any good law passed in the last 200 years was done under pressure from mass organization.

Pete Scholtes (Pete Scholtes), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 16:06 (eighteen years ago) link

I'm such a pessimist that I do not think that utilizing housing vouchers, and convincing landlords and homeowners in the higher-ground portions of New Orleans of their necessity would be as easy as Naomi Klein suggested in the Nation, even if you could convince the political powers that be to go along with that idea. I think I have read elsewhere about landlords in the above-sea-level neighborhoods upping prices. Are there really enough vacancies to accomodate a large percentage of the 9th Ward. If it would work, and if there was political impetus to make it happen that would be great. Believe me, after reading the Klein article back then I kept waiting for Mayor Nagin or his commission to advocate such a plan (despite the longstanding Bush objections to housing vouchers) but it never seemed to happen.

curmudgeon (DC Steve), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 17:49 (eighteen years ago) link

obv i'm no expert on the topic but that response to the new yorker piece fails to mention what i took as the main thrust of the article - that the whole region is naturally sinking. combine this with rising sea levels... but if the dredging thing works, then by all means.

Thing is, you could take current environmental trends and write a piece about how it's futile to save the world. Does that mean we should throw up our hands and actively help destroy it?

of course if you let the world go there'd be nowhere for people to live. if you let the gulf coast slide into the sea, because trying to save it would be endangering the welfare of its inhabitants and monopolizing finite resources, there would still be places for people to live.

jhoshea (scoopsnoodle), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 18:24 (eighteen years ago) link

if you let the gulf coast slide into the sea, because trying to save it would be endangering the welfare of its inhabitants and monopolizing finite resources, there would still be places for people to live.

the land is too valuable though -- the sun belt is the fastest-growing region in the country and the proximity to a large body of water (the gulf) is very desirable. you can't really forbid people from moving there unless you turn it into a government-controlled wildlife sanctuary with heavy security.

chillaxing damsel on box art (Jody Beth Rosen), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 18:43 (eighteen years ago) link

Curmudgeon, is the world-history of activism really so buried that you think some elected official handed us things like the 40-hour work week, organic produce, the abolition of slavery, free speech, the fall of communism, etc. etc. etc.?

Why would you wait for Nagin to do anything?

Pete Scholtes (Pete Scholtes), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 22:42 (eighteen years ago) link

Let's see if I have the arguments against activism straight:

--It will be hard. Why bother?
--ACORN isn't a perfect organization. Why bother?
--Louisiana might not be here in 300 years. Why bother?

Pete Scholtes (Pete Scholtes), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 22:50 (eighteen years ago) link

i mentioned endangering people's lives a couple times.

jhoshea (scoopsnoodle), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 22:54 (eighteen years ago) link

Organic produce?

phil d. (Phil D.), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 22:59 (eighteen years ago) link

the land is too valuable though -- the sun belt is the fastest-growing region in the country and the proximity to a large body of water (the gulf) is very desirable. you can't really forbid people from moving there unless you turn it into a government-controlled wildlife sanctuary with heavy security.

good point. i imagine if the government eliminated funding for things like levees and dredging (yes i know my position is getting more and more absurd by the moment) it would have the dual effect of returning the coast line to a more natural spongy state and dissuading people from building. thereby making the whole situation safer.

maybe. i really have no idea if i agree with anything i've said in this thread. but it seems like these ideas should at least be considered when figuring out what to do about nola.

i imagine there's a lot of this sort of discussion going on behind the scenes of the rebuilding project. of course no politician or bureaucrat would openly admit that they're considering abandoning nola.

jhoshea (scoopsnoodle), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 23:06 (eighteen years ago) link

well, you seem to have all the answers then, no need for us mortals

timmy tannin (pompous), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 23:07 (eighteen years ago) link

[takes deep breath]

Pete Scholtes (Pete Scholtes), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 01:15 (eighteen years ago) link

I am sorry if I came off high and mighty.

My posts addressing you above are out of line, Curmudgeon. I seriously am not good at writing on ILE. Jhoshea, you're right that endangering people's lives is a serious consideration, and I'm sorry I caricatured your opinion. I would delete my last couple posts if I could.

Organic produce? Something we all can enjoy which no piece of legislation gave us. Food is better than ever thanks to small farmers, not politicians. A dumb list, but that's the reason I wrote that.

Pete Scholtes (Pete Scholtes), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 01:51 (eighteen years ago) link

I reread the New Yorker article.

Is says: "the fundamental problem of southern Louisiana" is "the fact that making the area suitable for permanent settlement also tends to make it that much more impermanent."

In other words, the problem is man-made:

'In the nineteen-twenties, Percy Viosca, a Louisiana naturalist, warned that flood-control and land-reclamation efforts were "killing the goose that laid the golden egg"; he advocated that the state adopt policies to reestablish the "natural conditions" conducive to healthy marshes. Instead, though, virtually all the practices that exacerbate land loss were allowed to continue and, in some cases, even encouraged. Swamps were drained to create agricultural fields and housing developments; this caused the peaty marsh soils to oxidize and shrink, like a drying sponge, resulting, in many instances, in new expanses of open water. Navigational channels like the Mississippi River-Gulf Outlet were dug; these carried salt water into what had been freshwater marshes, killing trees and grasses and inviting erosion. Thousands of miles of canals were cut into the wetlands to facilitate oil and natural gas exploration; much like the navigation channels, these canals wreaked havoc on the local hydrology. Where oil was found, the process of extraction caused some areas to slump—Louisiana "floats on oil like a drunkard's teeth on whiskey," A. J. Liebling once wrote—further contributing to subsidence.'

It goes on to say that attempts to redress these mistakes have been fatally slow.

I don't see, in other words, how you get from those conclusions to the idea that Southern Louisiana is just naturally sinking because of forces beyond humanity's control. (It probably doesn't help that the article seems to frame politics purely in terms of popular folly in the face of hard scientific realities.)

I also notice that there's some (quoted) editorializing in the piece about climate change. I have a question: Is global warming reversible?

Pete Scholtes (Pete Scholtes), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 02:39 (eighteen years ago) link

I don't have time right now to reread the article but this seems to be the section I was remembering:

The buildup of southern Louisiana and its wasting away are flip sides of the same deltaic process. Over time, sediments naturally compact and consolidate—or dewater—with recent layers, which are wetter, losing volume more rapidly. Once enough sediment has been deposited, the load begins to depress the earth’s crust, a process known as down-warping. (Down-warping occurs so gradually that the earth is still responding to sediment deposited tens of thousands of years ago.) In areas where accretion exceeds subsidence, new land is created. But the process works against itself. When too much sediment builds up at its mouth, the river, seeking a faster route to the sea, switches course, like a hose flopping around in the grass. A new bulge of land, or delta lobe, starts to form, while the old one slowly continues to sink and compact under its own weight. In the past eight thousand years, the river has built five major lobes, some of them overlapping. Western Terrebonne Parish is what remains of the delta lobe built during the time of the Assyrians; Lafourche Parish is what’s left of the lobe laid down during the Roman Empire. Many still more ancient delta lobes are now submerged. The Mississippi fan, an enormous cone of sediment that was laid down during the ice ages, now lies under the Gulf of Mexico; it is larger than the entire state of Louisiana and in some places ten thousand feet thick.

Like I said I was just going on memory. I likely forgot the most important parts.

Also, I wanted to say that even if we do disagree (not sure that we do), I whole heartedly encourage you to get involved in helping nola and the whole region. I'm sure they can use as may dedicated, intelligent people as they can get.

jhoshea (scoopsnoodle), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 16:14 (eighteen years ago) link

I'd be curious about what the exact difference is between this natural process and the ways in which it's been sped up by people. I assume that's a huge difference, and suspect the same of global warming.

Pete Scholtes (Pete Scholtes), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 16:26 (eighteen years ago) link

What about damming the Mississippi?

This conservative article in favor of dams, and tracking environmentalist opposition to them, is really interesting. It calls wetlands overrated as a means of flood control.

http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Protected/Articles/000/000/006/565qnocx.asp

Pete Scholtes (Pete Scholtes), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 16:29 (eighteen years ago) link

(x-post: In other words, yeah, I can see how Southern Louisiana could just naturally sinking slowly, but I want to better understand the distinction between this process, which is measured by events that happened during the ice age, and the current sinking rate, which predicts total flooding within hundreds of years.)

Pete Scholtes (Pete Scholtes), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 16:37 (eighteen years ago) link

What about damming the Mississippi?

mississippi goddamn!

(sorry, still catching up with new posts... will try to post something helpful later.)

chillaxing damsel on box art (Jody Beth Rosen), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 16:48 (eighteen years ago) link

#15 Use cutter-head dredges to harvest sediments from river bottoms or offshore sources, then transport them through an infrastructure of pipelines to areas of degraded marsh or shallow open water in Louisiana.

Not very snappy...

Pete Scholtes (Pete Scholtes), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 21:51 (eighteen years ago) link

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/04/05/us/nationalspecial/05trailers.html?_r=1&th&emc=th&oref=slogin

Folks in a gated community in the Algiers portion of New Orleans did not want FEMA trailers in one location says this article. Good ol' FEMA...

Here's an excerpt:

Security cameras watch the entrance of Lakewood Estates, and a sign proclaims "24-hour camera surveillance in progress." The collection of trailers sits on a two-acre plot on one side of a low wall, a humble contrast to the substantial, well-landscaped dwellings on the other side.

"If you look at this facility, it looks like Guantánamo," said the protest leader, Edward D. Markle. He was still furious at FEMA, though the site appears dead, for now. "It's bad," Mr. Markle said. "You've got a thousand locations that are better. I won't be able to take a bath without them seeing me."

He suggested that a much larger plot of land, across the road and away from the homes, would have made a far more suitable location.

"It's not an issue of we don't want them in our backyard," Mr. Markle said. "We invite them in our backyard. We just don't want them in our bathrooms and bedrooms."

curmudgeon, Wednesday, 5 April 2006 21:24 (eighteen years ago) link

The bits I heard from yesterday's New Orleans mayoral debate were not that inspiring. Also, Bush has yet to pick a new FEMA director. How can the people make any of the politicians get their act together on this? Meanwhile, the media has accepted the Republican talking point that only immigration can be talked about---not New Orleans, wiretapping, Iraq,Bin Laden, poor people, or stagnant wage levels for those not in the highest tax brackets.

ACORN needs to work harder to get attention for whatever they are trying to do in New Orleans.

curmudgeon (DC Steve), Thursday, 6 April 2006 16:12 (eighteen years ago) link

And now it looks as if FEMA's kicking out the volunteers who are actually doing something:

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2006/4/3/13938/09595

Pete Scholtes (Pete Scholtes), Thursday, 6 April 2006 16:33 (eighteen years ago) link

I watched the debate on C-Span. The Rev. Thomas Watson forced the issue of bringing people back home very well. Nagin was a pompous ass. The Republicans are on the moon if they think the private sector will play Superman. On a gut level, I liked these two the best:

Virginia Boulet
http://www.virginiabouletformayor.com
Rev. Tom Watson
http://www.tomwatsonformayor.com

Pete Scholtes (Pete Scholtes), Thursday, 6 April 2006 16:42 (eighteen years ago) link

Amy Goodman on Pacifica had a story this morning on the collapse of the New Orleans criminal law system. Folks being held too long, not enough public defenders, evidence gone, witnesses unavailable, etc.

curmudgeon (DC Steve), Monday, 10 April 2006 15:04 (eighteen years ago) link

I do not usually even listen to Amy Goodman but I just heard her interviewing more folks in New Orleans. What a mess--lots of candidates for mayor, lots of folks in exile unable to vote, ongoing problems for renters to find homes and apartments to rent at reasonable rates, electricity and phone connection problems...

curmudgeon (Steve K), Tuesday, 11 April 2006 02:28 (eighteen years ago) link

two weeks pass...
Not making much progress, but I'll bump with this, anyway:

http://blogs.citypages.com/pscholtes/2006/05/a_platform_for.asp

Pete Scholtes (Pete Scholtes), Monday, 1 May 2006 17:44 (seventeen years ago) link

I just got back from a weekend in New Orleans for the 1st weekend of Jazzfest. I also drove through the 9th Ward and a more middle-class area and saw some of the devastation. In the 9th Ward very little appears to have been done. There is still debris everywhere, trees everywhere, smashed open houses just sitting. We saw no workers cleaning up, just firemen with axes at one site. There appears to be no electricity. Someone cut out the word "No" from an ACORN "no bulldozing" poster. In a ward with an average income of only $25,000 there are few trailers and with the lack of electricity and and food and shopping options, it seems nearly impossible for folks to rebuild (to the new 3 feet higher FEMA rules) without sizeable assistance from governments at all levels. But that does not seem to be happening.
In the more middle-class neighborhood, shopping centers, gas stations and fast food restaurants sit empty. The traffic lights are out. We saw some work being done on certain homes. In the French Quarter which had little damage there are still many restaurants and other shops that are closed. Near Harrah's casino on the edge between the Quarter and the Central Business District there are still windows in buildings covered with plywood. The letter 'r" is still missing from the Doubletree Hotel sign. Under an overpass near downtown you can see lots of flood-destroyed and trashed cars just sitting. Up by the fairgrounds where Jazzfest took place you can see the waterline on some homes. There are a fair number of damaged homes up there as well. At a restaurant, a waiter vented to us about how hard it is to try to repair his New Orleans home while living out-of-town and working long hours as a waiter.

At Jazzfest Charmaine Neville railed against FEMA, many others bemoaned the state of things, and Springsteen criticized "President Bystander" and noted in regards to his visit to the 9th Ward that "The criminal ineptitude makes you furious."

Bush and company keep insisting they are spending money down there and will bring the levees back up to level 3 scale (!) but I did not see much tangible results in the neighborhoods (the Times-Picayune keeps running articles on the Army Corps of Engineers failures both historic and current). It all seems very grim to me. The New Orleans culture that gave us Creole cooking, sucessive generations of new and different brass bands, Mardi Gras Indians, Fats Domino, Louis Armstrong, and more jazz, r'n'b, and rock performers is now spread out and dissipated throughout the country. Rents and housing costs in higher ground 'better' neighborhoods are out of the reach of many. A research scientist who lives in uptown New Orleans told me at the Fest that it looks like New Orleans will simply become "a port and a resort," but will no longer be a multicultural, multi-class vital living city.

curmudgeon (DC Steve), Wednesday, 3 May 2006 12:17 (seventeen years ago) link

Thank God I was able to spend as much time there as I was. I know that I have to go back as soon as I can, because of my deeply-held feelings for the place, but I dread what seems to be an inevitable feeling of permanent loss.

Damnit. Wouldn't it be cool if this were to serve as a step in the right direction for rebuilding - actually attempting to reclaim as close to the original, and not just simulating or totally refacing?

Big Loud Mountain Ape (Big Loud Mountain Ape), Wednesday, 3 May 2006 12:44 (seventeen years ago) link

"Restore 15 percent of the city to wetlands in a socially equitable manner."

This is the hard part of Pete's plan. For now the 9th Ward is not being bulldozed, but nor is it being restored. How do you decide to move people or where they should have to move to? The way it looks right now, a large chunk of the 9th Ward is just going to sit--neither as a true wetland or as a redeveloped neighborhood. The long-standing issues of race and class and how they play out, plus the city's longstanding crime and education problems factor in heavily. Someone(white guy) working at one restaurant told us they need to just bulldoze, and that venting waiter (white guy) I referred to above noted that while the city went without any murders for months after Katrina, recently a local had been murdered on the street not far from the tourist area of Jackson Square with a shotgun. The waiter complained "the trash are coming back."

curmudgeon (DC Steve), Wednesday, 3 May 2006 13:12 (seventeen years ago) link

I figure that even if you're one of those folks who says that rebuilding should not be done in certain areas because another storm is likely to come through, I think you should still recognize the resposibility and failure of governments here. The Army Corps of Engineers screwed up, and various governments failed to rescue people, and now those governments are not actively creating and implementing a plan (they're not even getting the electricity on or the debris cleaned up 8 months later).

curmudgeon (DC Steve), Thursday, 4 May 2006 03:56 (seventeen years ago) link

""Housing is the big one," said Taylor, whose foundation has donated more than $500,000 for replacement instruments.

"A lot of people are on hold," Floyd said. "We're coming into hurricane season. The levees aren't anywhere where they need to be. It's just a kind of wait-and-see attitude."

Some musicians who have tried to find housing report that rents have doubled." excerpt from "New Orleans musicians come home — for now"
By Paul de Barros, Seattle Times jazz critic
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/nationworld/2002977610_nola07.html

There have been other sad articles in the Times-Picayune, plus a sad piece on media coverage 8 months later in the Washington Post.


curmudgeon (DC Steve), Monday, 8 May 2006 14:23 (seventeen years ago) link

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/05/05/AR2006050501744.html

Katrina Fatigue The Media's New Orleans Burnout

By Howard Kurtz
Sunday, May 7, 2006; Page B01

"I walked down the street next to a failed levee here the other day and saw house after house that had been pulverized by Hurricane Katrina. Eight months after the storm, and nothing, not a single cinder block, had been touched. An exterior wall of one home had been ripped away, revealing, amid the rubble, a sneaker, some batteries and a cardboard box for an NFL football. A thriving family once lived here, and in the next house, and in the house after that.

But it's old news, this tableau of destruction. Even if a reporter could track down the families on this block and recount each tale of woe, the camera lens would still be too close; it simply could not capture the magnitude of what happened to New Orleans last summer. And if you pull back the camera too far, you get those aerial shots we've all seen so many times, which provide a sense of the hurricane's scale but not of the human misery that each ruined home represents."

curmudgeon (DC Steve), Monday, 8 May 2006 20:36 (seventeen years ago) link

Pete, where are you?

curmudgeon (DC Steve), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 04:53 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm here! There are heroic stories as well as sad ones, like this on the 9th Ward (if this wasn't already posted):
http://www.nola.com/search/index.ssf?/base/library-101/114648651382840.xml?nola

Nagin has at least unveiled an evacuation plan, which takes care of #6, maybe.

I'm sending money, once I catch up on bills, to Common Grounds.

Pete Scholtes (Pete Scholtes), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 07:32 (seventeen years ago) link

Yea, Common Grounds and a few other non-profits seem to be the only ones doing anything. No governments at any level seem to be doing anything about the electricity, water, or cleaning up in the poor neighborhoods (and not much better in the middle class hoods).

curmudgeon (DC Steve), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 19:54 (seventeen years ago) link

Par for the Corps
A Flood of Bad Projects

By Michael Grunwald
Sunday, May 14, 2006; B01

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/05/13/AR2006051300037_pf.html

"....Then the Corps failed to protect New Orleans during Hurricane Katrina, despite spending more in Louisiana than in any other state. Last month, the Corps commander acknowledged that his agency's "design failure" led to the floodwall collapses that drowned New Orleans. So why isn't everyone asking questions about the Corps and its patrons in Congress?

Somehow, America has concluded that the scandal of Katrina was the government's response to the disaster, not the government's contribution to the disaster. The Corps has eluded the public's outrage -- even though a useless Corps shipping canal intensified Katrina's surge, even though poorly designed Corps floodwalls collapsed just a few feet from an unnecessary $750 million Corps navigation project , even though the Corps had promoted development in dangerously low-lying New Orleans floodplains and had helped destroy the vast marshes that once provided the city's natural flood protection."

Pete:
Doing something about the Corps of Engineers needs to be a platform item (although it seems to enjoy Congresional and Presidential and military patronage and support that makes it untouchable).

curmudgeon (DC Steve), Monday, 15 May 2006 21:48 (seventeen years ago) link

Who will win the runoff for Mayor of New Orleans, and will it matter?

curmudgeon (DC Steve), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 12:44 (seventeen years ago) link

http://www.gumbopages.com/looka/

See the May 22nd posting for one recent view

curmudgeon (DC Steve), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 12:42 (seventeen years ago) link

eight months pass...
Pete:

The million dollar complicated question: How do you change the education system, pre-care for kids issues, labor/work issues, mindset issues, policing issues, gun issues, drug issues etc. in New Orleans so as to decrease the violence?

Check out this depressing N.Y. Times article.

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/02/05/us/05crime.html?_r=1&th&emc=th&oref=slogin

"In New Orleans, Dysfunction Fuels Cycle of Killing"

excerpt:
"Other cities have plenty of murders. But only in New Orleans has there been the uniquely poisoned set of circumstances that has led to this city’s position at the top of the homicide charts. Every phase of the killing cycle here unfolds under the dark star of dysfunction: the murderers’ brutalized childhoods, the often ineffectual police intervention, a dulled community response, and a tense relationship between the police and prosecutors that lets many cases slip through the cracks."

curmudgeon (DC Steve), Monday, 5 February 2007 15:20 (seventeen years ago) link

I think Pete's too busy worrying about New Times/VV Media inflicted changes at his job right now, to look at this.

curmudgeon (DC Steve), Tuesday, 6 February 2007 16:05 (seventeen years ago) link

four years pass...

http://www.nola.com/politics/index.ssf/2011/05/appalling_conditions_at_new_or.html

excerpt below
Appalling conditions at New Orleans coroner's office reveal a crude, understaffed operation

Published: Sunday, May 22, 2011, 7:00 AM

By Laura Maggi, The Times-Picayune

In New Orleans, the murder capital of the United States, the local agency tasked with investigating exactly how people die is a crude operation at best, with pathologists performing autopsies in a dingy former funeral parlor, half of which was recently rendered useless by fire.

Without a proper ventilation system inside the autopsy area, the smell of dead bodies and cleaning supplies lingers in the air. Corpses are stored in refrigerated trucks out back.

Making problems worse, Coroner Frank Minyard is far from a vocal advocate for his office, rarely asking the city for money to alleviate the burdensome caseload of his staff. Despite holding the office for more than 30 years, Minyard blames his failure to land a state-of-the-art facility on a kind of political naivete.

curmudgeon, Monday, 23 May 2011 13:33 (twelve years ago) link

Adam (New Orleans resident), any thoughts?

curmudgeon, Monday, 23 May 2011 16:02 (twelve years ago) link

two months pass...

Rising Tide 6 Conference on New Orleans' future is at Xavier University on Aug. 27

Check RisingTideNola.com, the Rising Tide Blog & this page for details, y'all.

Friday Night Party Aug. 26 (TBA)

Amazing Speakers and Panels all day Saturday, Aug. 27.

Registration includes morning pastries & beverages and lunch by J'Anita's

Everyone is welcome!

The Rising Tide Conference is an annual gathering for all who wish to learn more and do more to assist New Orleans' recovery. It's for everyone who loves New Orleans and is working to bring a better future to all its residents.

Leveraging the power of bloggers and new media, the conference is a launch pad for organization and action. Our day-long program of speakers and presentations is tailored to inform, entertain, enrage and inspire.

We come together to dispel myths, promote facts, highlight progress and regress, discuss recovery ideas, and promote sound policies at all levels. We aim to be a "real life" demonstration of internet activism as we continue to recover from a massive failure of government on all levels.

This year's featured guests include the creator of HBO series The Wire and Treme, David Simon, and author of six critically acclaimed books on the physical and human geography of New Orleans, Richard Campanella. Past featured speakers have included Mac McClellan (blogger and writer for Mother Jones) Harry Shearer (writer, actor, host of the weekly radio show Le Show), John Barry (author of Rising Tide), Dave Zirin (author of Welcome to the Terrordome) and authors Christopher Cooper and Robert Block (Disaster: Hurricane Katrina and the Failure of Homeland Security).

This year's main stage panel discussions include:

Social Media, Social Justice Panel – Cherri Foytlin, contributor to the Bridge the Gulf project; Jimmy Huck, Jr., Executive Committee member of Tulane University’s Center for Public Service; Jordan Flaherty, author of Floodlines: Community and Resistance from Katrina to the Jena Six; Stephen Ostertag, creator of PublicSphereNOLA; and moderated by Bart Everson from Xavier's Center for the Advancement of Teaching.

Louisiana’s Coastal Health Panel – Moderated by Alex Woodward, writer for Gambit, panelists include Len Bahr, founding editor of LACoastPost; David Hammer, contributing writer for the New Orleans Times-Picayune; Ann Rolfes, founding director of the Louisiana Bucket Brigade; Drake Toulouse, blogger at Disenfranchised Citizen; and Bob Marshall, Pulitzer Prize winning journalist for the Times-Picayune.

New Orleans Food Writing Panel - Guests Peter Thriffley and Rene Louapre of Blackened Out and Offbeat Magazine will join Todd Price, author of A Frolic of My Own to discuss the eating out in New Orleans and writing about it, and the new generation of great online New Orleans food writers. Chefs and Restauranteurs: Green Goddess' Chris Debarr as well as Adolfo Garcia and Alex del Castillo.

Brass Bands Panel - featuring Lawrence Rawlins, band director of Roots of Music; Alejandro de los Rios, producer of the Brass Roots documentary; members of the TBC Brass Band Edward “Juicy” Jackson, Joe Maize and Sean Michael Roberts; moderated by writer Deborah Cotton; followed by a performance by the TBC Brass Band.

curmudgeon, Thursday, 11 August 2011 15:09 (twelve years ago) link

nine months pass...

No more daily newsprint paper in new orleans

http://mediadecoder.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/05/24/new-orleans-times-picayune-to-cut-staff-and-cease-daily-newspape/?hp

Also this fall, The Times-Picayune will begin publishing a more robust newspaper on a reduced schedule of Wednesdays, Fridays and Sundays only.

curmudgeon, Thursday, 24 May 2012 16:33 (eleven years ago) link

Oh man, that really sucks.

Soccer mom, hopeless and lost, in utter despair (Dan Peterson), Thursday, 24 May 2012 16:57 (eleven years ago) link

At least their restaurant critc (and sometimes music critic) can do this I guess:

Times-Picayune restaurant critic Brett Anderson has been selected as a member of the Nieman Foundation Fellows Class for 2013. He is one of 24 journalists chosen, the Nieman Foundation announced Friday.

The Nieman Foundation administers the prestigious fellowship program, which allows accomplished and promising journalists a year of study at Harvard, with time to pursue individual areas of interest, along with integrated class work to enhance their expertise.

curmudgeon, Thursday, 24 May 2012 17:16 (eleven years ago) link

three years pass...

African-American New Orleans banker Alden McDonald has done what he can, but ...

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/08/23/magazine/why-new-orleans-black-residents-are-still-under-water-after-katrina.html?&moduleDetail=section-news-3&action=click&contentCollection=Magazine®ion=Footer&module=MoreInSection&version=WhatsNext&contentID=WhatsNext&pgtype=article

The city had a population of 455,000 before the storm, two-thirds of whom were black; by 2010 there were 24,000 fewer whites and 118,000 fewer blacks.

You could say Alden McDonald triumphed over adversity, too. Today he runs the country’s third-largest black-owned bank, according to the Federal Reserve. But despite his personal success, McDonald is still focused on the eastern half of that map that he marked up at our first meeting. There, the recovery is far from complete — and in some areas things are worse than before the storm. In this frustration, he represents what might be called the black Katrina narrative, a counterpoint to the jubilant accounts of Landrieu and other New Orleans boosters. This version of the story begins by noting that an African-American homeowner was more than three times more likely than a white one to live in a flooded part of town. Where Landrieu sees black and white coming together, many African-Americans recollect a different New Orleans: rifle-carrying sheriffs and police officers barricading a bridge out of an overwhelmed city because they didn’t want the largely black crowds walking through their predominantly white suburbs; a white congressman overheard saying that God had finally accomplished what others couldn’t by clearing out public housing; a prominent resident from the Uptown part of the city telling a Wall Street Journal reporter that in rebuilding, things would be ‘‘done in a completely different way, demographically, geographically and politically’’ — or he and his friends weren’t moving back.

Now there are still 100,000 fewer black residents living in New Orleans than at the time of Katrina. McDonald estimates that one-third of his friends have not returned, because their homes were destroyed. ‘‘I still have family members stuck in Houston, some cousins,’’ McDonald says. ‘‘They’re terribly homesick.’’ Only about 80 percent of the residents of New Orleans East, where a good portion of the city’s African-American middle class as well as a large share of the city’s black elite lived, have returned. In the Seventh Ward, he says, where he grew up, only about half of the homes are restored a decade after Katrina. ‘‘There was never a plan to bring people back home,’’ he says. ‘‘There was never a plan of any kind.’’

curmudgeon, Thursday, 20 August 2015 02:29 (eight years ago) link


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