The long overdue _Blade Runner_ thread

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"einstein was probably one of them!"

fortunate hazel (f. hazel), Monday, 17 April 2006 21:18 (eighteen years ago) link

I guess I missed a whole lot of post-Alien boring haunted-house movies set in spaceships.

event horizon! (sooooooooooo bad.)

i'll grant that lang vs. scott is no kind of comparison at all. but i think metropolis is a weak movie, plotwise, with convoluted -- nay, incoherent -- politics and characters who could be generously described as two-dimensional. what it's (rightly, justly) famous for is its design and vision of da future. but that's what blade runner is rightly, justly admired for too, and i think blade runner's story and characters are more coherent, and the cast is a lot better. so i think it's a better movie, lang's general genius notwithstanding.

gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Monday, 17 April 2006 21:20 (eighteen years ago) link

i just never really understood where i'm supposed to go from thinking roy was creepy to sympathy for roy, except there was a beautifully shot scene of roy releasing birds into sunlight with nice vangelis music.

BECAUSE HE WANTS MORE LIFE FUCKER

anyway, which mad max are you checking there in yr list vahid? speaking of adolescent film experiences, the 2nd one blew my leetle mind, age 15 or so. the simplicity of the plot and the agorophobic blankness of the setting really got to me, and i was like, "this is like a greek myth or something dood."

geoff (gcannon), Monday, 17 April 2006 21:21 (eighteen years ago) link

lang's general genius notwithstanding

yeah, there's the whole "expanding the general vocabulary of film" thing that you can't get around w/ lang.

the crowd scenes in metropolis were the first of their kind, right?

vahid (vahid), Monday, 17 April 2006 21:22 (eighteen years ago) link

well, sure roy wants more life. who doesn't? forrest gump wants more life, too.

vahid (vahid), Monday, 17 April 2006 21:23 (eighteen years ago) link

more life, less history.

vahid (vahid), Monday, 17 April 2006 21:23 (eighteen years ago) link

I don't think Werner Herzog wants more life.

Washable School Paste (sexyDancer), Monday, 17 April 2006 21:26 (eighteen years ago) link

"life is like a box of chocolates. time to die."

fortunate hazel (f. hazel), Monday, 17 April 2006 21:27 (eighteen years ago) link

OTM

Washable School Paste (sexyDancer), Monday, 17 April 2006 21:28 (eighteen years ago) link

Ok, how about this -- I once broke up with a girl when I was 20 years old because we had a two-hour conversation about Blade Runner during which she made it abundantly clear to me that she was not as smart as I am, or indeed most people I knew at the time. This was not a long or significant relationship. Better?

I'm still not really clear on why this is such a terrible thing to say. Breaking up with someone because you don't think they're very smart is a great reason to break up with someone -- one of the best reasons there is, I think. Just about everyone on this thread with any kind of dating history has probably done it (or, um, had it done to them).

Breaking up with someone because they don't like the film/music/whatever you like...well, maybe that's a little more questionable, but still, especially with film, who wants to spend your life fighting with someone, or slowly losing respect for them, because you're just not on the same wavelength?

(And would anyone really argue that strongly differing tastes in art can mean -- doesn't always mean, but can mean -- that there's an underlying personality difference that may prove to be a problem? Or that it can be just a wee bit alienating?)

So given all that: are people coming down on Kenan just because they don't think much of him, and so they're inclined to take the most negative interpretation of what he says...even if it's something that, if phrased a little more carefully (I'd leave out the "as smart as I am" bit, for starters) and posted by someone else, would get a free pass?

lurker #2421, Monday, 17 April 2006 21:41 (eighteen years ago) link

i think it's the forrest gump of breakups.

fortunate hazel (f. hazel), Monday, 17 April 2006 21:48 (eighteen years ago) link

sounds like the girl had a close encounter of the turd kind

RJG (RJG), Monday, 17 April 2006 21:50 (eighteen years ago) link

i dumped a girl cuz she praised sally fields a little too highly once

j blount (papa la bas), Monday, 17 April 2006 21:57 (eighteen years ago) link

Less Gump, more Blade Runner please.

LOL Thomas (Chris Barrus), Monday, 17 April 2006 22:38 (eighteen years ago) link

http://www.dobhran.com/images/forrestgump3.jpg

Ah seen things you people wouldn' buhlieve.

gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Monday, 17 April 2006 22:53 (eighteen years ago) link

Actually, there is another Spielberg movie that fits in here... Poltergeist, ostensibly directed by Tobe Hooper but as most reports have it, it's pretty much a Spielberg operation all the way through. Again, ignoring the delivery method (souped-up version of a Night Gallery horror episode) Poltergeist hits the markers of 1982 American cultural paranoia that Blade Runner does - only with suburban unease (instead of urban dystopia). Instead of man-made machines slipping away and coming back to haunt, the villian is the earth itself. OK, so it's personified by an old native american graveyard, but it's basically the same thing.

LOL Thomas (Chris Barrus), Monday, 17 April 2006 22:54 (eighteen years ago) link

Wow, that's actually a pretty great call, now that I think of it.

It is suggestive of something that I've seen Poltergeist and Blade Runner any number of times but I only ever saw E. T. once in the theaters during its original run. And even then I missed the middle section cause I was bored and went to play video games in the theater lobby.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 17 April 2006 22:59 (eighteen years ago) link

I just realized, 1982 was a hell of a year for genre movies... Blade Runner, The Thing, Poltergeist, Tron, The Road Warrior

LOL Thomas (Chris Barrus), Monday, 17 April 2006 23:00 (eighteen years ago) link

and i was born that year too! i'm a genre human
dont forget ET!
and poltergeist 3 surely owes a little to blade runner?

fortunate hazel (f. hazel), Monday, 17 April 2006 23:02 (eighteen years ago) link

poltergeist 3 = more than a little john carpenter + cronenberg, too.

vahid (vahid), Monday, 17 April 2006 23:05 (eighteen years ago) link

I just realized, 1982 was a hell of a year for genre movies... Blade Runner, The Thing, Poltergeist, Tron, The Road Warrior

Krull...er, wait.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 17 April 2006 23:12 (eighteen years ago) link

Conan the Barbarian!

fortunate hazel (f. hazel), Monday, 17 April 2006 23:18 (eighteen years ago) link

dont forget ET!

Ha! I wish I could have that movie permanently removed from my memory

LOL Thomas (Chris Barrus), Monday, 17 April 2006 23:19 (eighteen years ago) link

Conan the Barbarian!

1981, I think.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 17 April 2006 23:20 (eighteen years ago) link

http://www.cs.virginia.edu/~jones/tmp352/projects98/group7/gump_momma.jpg

She won't live, but then again who does?

rogermexico (rogermexico), Monday, 17 April 2006 23:22 (eighteen years ago) link

nope, conan was in 1982. the dark crystal, too!

fortunate hazel (f. hazel), Monday, 17 April 2006 23:24 (eighteen years ago) link

Fuckin' A, and I was thinking of The Dark Crystal as well. Best year ever!

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 17 April 2006 23:25 (eighteen years ago) link

star trek ii: the wrath of khan
48 hours
fast times at ridgemont high
the secret of nimh
the world according to garp
tootsie

i like lots of movies from 1982.

gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Monday, 17 April 2006 23:31 (eighteen years ago) link

I heard that LEGEND was meant to be interpreted as a dream-vision Deckard was having right before his replicant body shorted out, hence the unicorns. Actually no I just made that up.

Petroski (petroski), Monday, 17 April 2006 23:33 (eighteen years ago) link

http://media.bladezone.com/contents/film/production/props/costumes/rachael/images/BR-Rach-coat-01.jpg

Jenny Curran: Have you ever been with a girl, Forrest?
Forrest Gump: I sit next to them in my Home Economics class all the time.

what would blade runner and wrath of khan be like if they magically switched casts?

J.D. (Justyn Dillingham), Monday, 17 April 2006 23:52 (eighteen years ago) link

http://www.gforcemodels.com/gforce_kits/deckard.jpg

David Orton (scarlet), Monday, 17 April 2006 23:57 (eighteen years ago) link

funny how?

RJG (RJG), Monday, 17 April 2006 23:58 (eighteen years ago) link

what would blade runner and wrath of khan be like if they magically switched casts?

ROYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY! ROYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!

Grudge Match - Deckard vs Richard Kimble:
http://www.grudge-match.com/History/deckard-kimble.shtml

David Orton (scarlet), Tuesday, 18 April 2006 00:10 (eighteen years ago) link

http://southsidecallbox.com/ilx/orly.jpg

the enduring pueblo (Jody Beth Rosen), Tuesday, 18 April 2006 01:06 (eighteen years ago) link

omg. LOVE.

rrrobyn (rrrobyn), Tuesday, 18 April 2006 01:11 (eighteen years ago) link

Hahaha, perfect.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 18 April 2006 01:17 (eighteen years ago) link

y'know, tied into the whole Spielberg thing upthread: I wasn't a big fan of Minority Report for various reasons, yet I have seen it twice anyway, and my favourite bit remains the whole GETTING NEW EYEBALLS part. Why? It seems so obvious now that it's b/c it's pretty freakin' Bladerunneresque.

rrrobyn (rrrobyn), Tuesday, 18 April 2006 01:19 (eighteen years ago) link

also maybe because peter stormare and caroline lagerfelt totally kicked ass in that scene.

fortunate hazel (f. hazel), Tuesday, 18 April 2006 01:33 (eighteen years ago) link

yes, it's the best scene!

rrrobyn (rrrobyn), Tuesday, 18 April 2006 01:57 (eighteen years ago) link

jbr wins. please lock thread.

rogermexico (rogermexico), Tuesday, 18 April 2006 02:09 (eighteen years ago) link

was ice pirates in 82?

j blount (papa la bas), Tuesday, 18 April 2006 02:50 (eighteen years ago) link

ICE PIRATES

s1ocki (slutsky), Tuesday, 18 April 2006 03:32 (eighteen years ago) link

LIKE BLADE RUNNER IT CROSSES GENRES AND PRESENTS AN ALL TOO BELIEVABLE FORECAST OF OUR FUTURE

j blount (papa la bas), Tuesday, 18 April 2006 03:34 (eighteen years ago) link

THEMES: ICE, WATER

s1ocki (slutsky), Tuesday, 18 April 2006 03:36 (eighteen years ago) link

AN ALL TOO BELIEVABLE FORECAST OF OUR FUTURE

I suppose Robert Urich *did* keep acting.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 18 April 2006 03:39 (eighteen years ago) link

ice pirates is like 'what if blade runner was political?'

j blount (papa la bas), Tuesday, 18 April 2006 03:42 (eighteen years ago) link

the movie's 'icy cool'

s1ocki (slutsky), Tuesday, 18 April 2006 03:44 (eighteen years ago) link


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