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couldn't see a thread devoted to camouflage in general and its history and theory

it's interesting

this thread inspired by a co-worker asking me to google up a camouflage pattern for her and me suggesting a "pixelated" camouflage I remembered seeing a few times, recently.

it is popular w/ television's "THE UNIT" and I also saw it, the ohter day, on a bag manufacturer website that j williams linked to. had never heard of it, before

apparently developed first by the canadians (CADPAT), in the mid-nineties (and, more recently, americans (MARPAT)), and inspired by the US's vietnam-era tigerstripe and a german, flecked pattern from the seventies. it has been canadian standard issue since 2002

something about disrupting human symmetry and how the human eye interacts w/ digital images. the candian pattern, some

I am, now, just summerising the few wikipedia articles I have read a moment ago, of course

digital camouflage! wacky

there are other interesting kinds, too

― RJG (RJG), Wednesday, 26 April 2006 10:09 (twenty years ago)

Pre-radar naval camouflage was rather interesting.

― Forest Pines (ForestPines), Wednesday, 26 April 2006 10:12 (twenty years ago)

Dazzle Camoflauge! Painting destroyers with polka dots.

― Pete (Pete), Wednesday, 26 April 2006 10:12 (twenty years ago)

http://www.imsplus.com/images/img_5987.jpg

MARPAT

― RJG (RJG), Wednesday, 26 April 2006 10:13 (twenty years ago)

xxpost i'm sure we did have a thread about camouflage but i wouldn't know where it is. What's the name of that pre-radar camo for ships that looks like waves randomly painted on the side. It's awesome!

Allow it.

― dog latin (dog latin), Wednesday, 26 April 2006 10:13 (twenty years ago)

how odd, great minds etc.

― dog latin (dog latin), Wednesday, 26 April 2006 10:13 (twenty years ago)

allow it?

― RJG (RJG), Wednesday, 26 April 2006 10:15 (twenty years ago)

lol sorry

― ken c (ken c), Wednesday, 26 April 2006 10:19 (twenty years ago)

was a huge, expensive book published last year or so containing complete history of camouflage, got reviewed (almost always positively) in wide range of style and design magazines:

http://www.pixelsurgeon.com/reviews/review.php?id=594

(66 quid from amazon)

> What's the name of that pre-radar camo for ships that looks like waves randomly painted on the side. It's awesome!

dazzle ships. dazzle ship camouflage, classic or dud?

― koogs (koogs), Wednesday, 26 April 2006 10:34 (twenty years ago)

that book looks good

― RJG (RJG), Wednesday, 26 April 2006 10:49 (twenty years ago)

DISRUPTIVE PATTERN MATERIAL

― Ward Fowler (Ward Fowler), Wednesday, 26 April 2006 11:15 (twenty years ago)

rad

― JW (ex machina), Wednesday, 26 April 2006 21:31 (twenty years ago)

Abbott Thayer (1849-1921), the so-called "father of camouflage," is the guy right? I know Rockwell Kent did some work with him on naturalist camo that was utilized by the military around WWI.

I have a digital camo sleeping bag I just go, to use for covert urban camping missions.

― andy --, Wednesday, 26 April 2006 21:39 (twenty years ago)

http://www.rossoalice.virgilio.it/alice/musicstore/image/8/8701.jpg

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 26 April 2006 21:42 (twenty years ago)

i'm sure we did have a thread about camouflage but i wouldn't know where it is.

See, you know what you did there, right?

― Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Wednesday, 26 April 2006 21:42 (twenty years ago)

http://images.picturequest.com/pq/comp-w/27/75/23187527.jpg

http://images.picturequest.com/pq/comp-w/26/75/23187526.jpg

http://images.picturequest.com/pq/comp-w/23/75/23187523.jpg

― Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Wednesday, 26 April 2006 21:47 (twenty years ago)

http://journal.aiga.org/content.cfm?ContentAlias=_getfullarticle&aid=1119503

interesting...

The realtree camo is very popular with carp fishermen in the UK

also - woaaahh http://www.hyperstealth.com/camo/fracture7/

― Porkpie (porkpie), Wednesday, 26 April 2006 21:48 (twenty years ago)

http://images.picturequest.com/pq/comp-w/56/39/23113956.jpg

― Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Wednesday, 26 April 2006 21:50 (twenty years ago)

pixelated camouflage! I want some! That book looks fascinating. I often think we should have dedicated urban camouflage, clotheswise, but y'know, in many ways we already do - certain fashions that blend into the cityscape. I like the blend of social/cultural and physical (how the eye/mind interprets, how certain colours fade into environment, etc) involved.

When we were driving to and from Terrast0ck this weekend we saw a couple of cellphone towers camouflaged as trees. They were fairly good copies of trees, but they rose up higher than most other trees and were too perfect - not in that they were perfectly symmetrical or plastic looking, but in that they tried very hard to approximate the irregularity of real tree branches. Uncanny valley stuff, I'm telling you. CREEPY.

― rrrobyn (rrrobyn), Wednesday, 26 April 2006 22:26 (twenty years ago)

Please explain further the idea behind pixelated (MARPAT etc.) camouflage. Why is it better than the traditional stuff (like douchey family above)?

― S- (sgh), Thursday, 27 April 2006 01:02 (twenty years ago)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v369/colinohara/092.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v369/colinohara/059.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v369/colinohara/002.jpg

― jed_ (jed), Thursday, 27 April 2006 01:20 (twenty years ago)

I am going to go look at this book @ strand and report back

― JW (ex machina), Thursday, 27 April 2006 01:21 (twenty years ago)

that dpm book looks hella but is pretty pricy.

― def zep (calstars), Thursday, 27 April 2006 01:26 (twenty years ago)

that book looks good

I was pretty impressed at first glance, but after having a good rifle through it in a book shop it turned out to be less interesting than I thought.

― Andrew (enneff), Thursday, 27 April 2006 01:53 (twenty years ago)

good rifle through it!

― geoff (gcannon), Thursday, 27 April 2006 02:00 (twenty years ago)

ohhhh I'll put a good rifle through YOU in a minute!!!!

― Andrew (enneff), Thursday, 27 April 2006 02:02 (twenty years ago)

that last picture of jed's is great, like the sleeve to 'Envane' if it needed to hide in a jungle somewhere.

there's a plugin for gimp that generates tilable camo images. great for website backgrounds.

― koogs (koogs), Thursday, 27 April 2006 07:38 (twenty years ago)

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