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How do you stop yourself from crying when you really don't want to?

ie: confronting a boss or colleague and not wanting to come across as a wuss, dealing with an abusive customer, having a huge argument with a partner?

I cry at anything. I've cried over tiny confrontations on ILX more than once! Anger, frustration, fear, and I just can't help myself. My voice goes wobbly and my eyes fill up. Humiliating.

It makes me come across as weak and spineless.

Anyone else like this? And what's your method for stopping the tears?

Rumpie (lil drummer girl parumpumpumpu), Thursday, 27 April 2006 10:51 (twenty years ago)

Get stupidly angry? :/

Trayce (trayce), Thursday, 27 April 2006 10:53 (twenty years ago)

I'm like this. I don't know. What pisses me off is, I cry when I'm angry as well as when I'm upset, and I hate looking weak.

My shrink told me that I should let myself cry if I wanted to, and go somewhere til the tears run themselves out, but he's rubbish and that's not always an option, you know?

Henrietta Leavitt and the Cepheid Variables (kate), Thursday, 27 April 2006 10:55 (twenty years ago)

I also cry when I'm angry, it's fucking annoying (not least because it's hard to talk and cry at the same time). Nobody ever thinks of SHOUTING as weak, but tears are just as common a symptom of anger surely?

I don't know how to stop tears when they're angry ones, I'm afraid. I've already had one cry today but it wasn't anger, just frustration and tiredness mainly.

Archel (Archel), Thursday, 27 April 2006 11:02 (twenty years ago)

Crying at work in front of peers/bosses is, unfortunately, Not On. It just gives superiors (I hesitate to specify males, but yanno...) an excuse to say women buckle and fold under pressure. Do what you have to, to get it out, but dont do it in front of the boss or the bitchy coworker!

Trayce (trayce), Thursday, 27 April 2006 11:03 (twenty years ago)

Crying at someone down the phone is the worst tho - they can't see that you're crying, they just hear all these bizarre noises and hiccups and you can't explain because you can't talk!! Embarrassing!!

indolent girl (indolent girl), Thursday, 27 April 2006 11:06 (twenty years ago)

i cry if i'm stupidly angry. that's the only times i cry these days. it's ridiculous. that's why i try not to get stupidly angry anymore.

dog latin (dog latin), Thursday, 27 April 2006 11:09 (twenty years ago)

why do we cry?

dog latin (dog latin), Thursday, 27 April 2006 11:09 (twenty years ago)

It releases some kind of hormone that we actually find calming.

Henrietta Leavitt and the Cepheid Variables (kate), Thursday, 27 April 2006 11:10 (twenty years ago)

You're supposed to feel better after you cry. I just feel embarrassed.

Henrietta Leavitt and the Cepheid Variables (kate), Thursday, 27 April 2006 11:10 (twenty years ago)

I'm dreadfully afraid recently that my anger at work is gonna translate not into tears but into Liv Tyler in Empire Records style freakout and smash everything and scream kind of thing.

Which is er, kind of really bad.

Trayce (trayce), Thursday, 27 April 2006 11:10 (twenty years ago)

i'm like this too. i've always cried quite a lot. i think it's good for my health, overall, but crying when angry is really embarrassing and ineffective and i wish i could stop it. mainly i try to wait until i'm alone before i cry but the angry tears are hard to suppress.
some people look fetching when they cry but i am not one of those.

estela (estela), Thursday, 27 April 2006 11:16 (twenty years ago)

in a way it's good because if someone i know has made me angry and i do cry they think they've really really upset me and get all sorry. either that or they laugh at me.

dog latin (dog latin), Thursday, 27 April 2006 11:17 (twenty years ago)

I actually cried AND stamped my foot in a work discussion once, which is probably one of the least effective negotiating strategies ever.

xpost - that's *not* good though is it dl, when you're angry at someone you want to have it out all angrily, not let them defuse things by sympathising/laughing!

Archel (Archel), Thursday, 27 April 2006 11:20 (twenty years ago)

I don't miss it.

Konal Doddz (blueski), Thursday, 27 April 2006 11:20 (twenty years ago)

Have you had your tear ducts removed, steve?

Archel (Archel), Thursday, 27 April 2006 11:22 (twenty years ago)

I wish there was some miracle cream to fix ones face after a bout of tears too. My EYEBROWS swell up and go red and stay like that for about thirty minutes after crying! No amount of splashing with cold water can fix it.

Rumpie (lil drummer girl parumpumpumpu), Thursday, 27 April 2006 11:38 (twenty years ago)

WHAT IS WRONG WITH THE EYES?

http://www.hat.hi-ho.ne.jp/schwa/image/schwa2.jpg

I KNOW NOW WHY U CRY

teh_kit has 18 friends (g-kit), Thursday, 27 April 2006 11:43 (twenty years ago)

Can't remember the last time I felt I needed to do this but it's been working for me since childhood -- if I REALLY don't want to be seen crying I'll slap myself. Usually the shock breaks the emotional thread and helps me concentrate again. Of course it's possibly even MORE difficult to do in public, but if you can step away for just a sec it works every time.

Laurel (Laurel), Thursday, 27 April 2006 11:43 (twenty years ago)

The last time I cried was nearly two years ago, and I was drunk, and walking home through covent garden on my own at about 3am, and I'd just had a horrible conversation with someone, and suddenly it started, so I hid down an alley until it stopped again. I think between then and now might be the longest I've gone without crying, and I don't know why I don't do it any more, but it's fine with me.

My eyes water a lot though. Especially if I'm laughing or if I'm embarrassed. And I find that really annoying. Perhaps it wouldn't happen if I cried more.

JimD (JimD), Thursday, 27 April 2006 11:45 (twenty years ago)

Slapping yourself? Maybe pinching would work too, and it's a little more discreet - especially in meetings.

Rumpie (lil drummer girl parumpumpumpu), Thursday, 27 April 2006 11:50 (twenty years ago)

Maybe, but it's not the pain, per se, that's effective -- it's the...affront of having it applied to something as personal as a face. Whatev.

Laurel (Laurel), Thursday, 27 April 2006 11:55 (twenty years ago)

I can't remember the last time i properly let the flood gates open, I guess due to my boring-non-risk lifestyle I've just not had anything awful enough happen to me for a while.

*phone rings*

Ste (Fuzzy), Thursday, 27 April 2006 11:57 (twenty years ago)

Both times I spoke up for myself in an abusive work situation I ended up crying. Of course, you only speak up when things have really gone beyond the pale. It sucks, because you're already letting the other person know that he or she upset you! Isn't that ENOUGH humiliation?
Neither work situation improved, because those people were full of self-justification and weren't about to change.

In domestic squabbling I can catch myself lapsing into drama and over the years have learned to at least try to stick to the facts. A lot of love-spat tears are manipulative. SEE! See how I SUFFER!!!!!!

Workplace tears are different. I think they're pretty unstoppable. I don't know if there is help. Maybe ice on the face afterwards, and also finding a new job.

Beth Parker (Beth Parker), Thursday, 27 April 2006 12:20 (twenty years ago)

Think about Rip Taylor. Not only will you want to laugh instead of cry, but you'll also get some kind of hormone release that Kate mentioned.

dave's good arm (facsimile) (dave225.3), Thursday, 27 April 2006 12:21 (twenty years ago)

I don't have the faintest clue who Rip Taylor is. I'm feeling on the edge of tears at the moment, but that could be PMT.

In domestic squabbling I can catch myself lapsing into drama and over the years have learned to at least try to stick to the facts. A lot of love-spat tears are manipulative. SEE! See how I SUFFER!!!!!!

That's *SO* not always true though. This is one of the worst reasons that I hate that I cry when I'm angry, because past boyfriend has interpreted this as me being "low level manipulative" when nothing could be further than the truth - I was ANGRY as fuck, and the tears negated anything I was saying.

Henrietta Leavitt and the Cepheid Variables (kate), Thursday, 27 April 2006 12:23 (twenty years ago)

Oh God how I hate when a partner says "stop crying" during an argument! It always leads to me getting all high-pitched and sobbing "I can't help it!"

Rumpie (lil drummer girl parumpumpumpu), Thursday, 27 April 2006 12:27 (twenty years ago)

aw Rumpie, how frustrating it is! I HATE it. It happens to me - tears of anger and frustration sometimes made worse by hormones and always with your partner at work where you want to not be seen as "weak" in any way. What you need is a diversion. I have had some success with subtlety digging a fingernail into my palm to put the focus on the pain of it rather than the conversation (obviously not so hard as to draw blood - although that would be an amazing diversion; "uh it appears you are spurting blood from your palm is that stigmata?") Also try to divert yourself mentally to someplace else like somewhere you have felt safe or a beautiful serene setting; plus try thinking about what an "ass" the person you're confronting really is.

Wiggy (Wiggy), Thursday, 27 April 2006 23:50 (twenty years ago)

I can't stop myself crying as I have the weakest tear ducts ever and can even do it on command which is NOT USEFUL. Anger is probably th ebest way, though.

edward o (edwardo), Friday, 28 April 2006 00:00 (twenty years ago)

For most of the months Septumbre to Mai I cry all the time if my eyes are exposed to outdoor air.

Every Time I Open Up My Mouth All Bullets Spit Out: Bang! (noodle vague), Friday, 28 April 2006 00:01 (twenty years ago)

edward maybe you have a future in soaps?

i think if you are actually in the middle of trying to make a point it is good to fight through tears to make it. it's very powerful and makes you look strong instead of weak.

Tracey Hand (tracerhand), Friday, 28 April 2006 00:03 (twenty years ago)

I can play a hysterical, weak-willed woman who folds under pressure.

edward o (edwardo), Friday, 28 April 2006 00:04 (twenty years ago)

"looking strong" may not always be a priority, i guess, but it is impressive to see someone fight the tears off and finish their sentence. the tip i have for this is straight from acting class, so i'm not sure if it works in real life but i think it might. what you do is place your attention on the other person you're talking to. keep them in your mind. and keep what you want from them in the front of your mind. and finish say what you were saying to them, the thing that was so hard to say. (in a play you will always have this goal that rests in the other person but in life you might be crying for something that has absolutely nothing to do with the other person so hmm that one's tough - the remedy might be the same, though)

Tracey Hand (tracerhand), Friday, 28 April 2006 00:10 (twenty years ago)

There are many good reasons to cry, and I do often enough. It is important to get your emotional priorities sorted out, though. Crying over a discussion on an internet forum is indicative that you're a bit unbalanced. Do you really want to give so much emotional weight to something so trivial? The same goes for workplace confrontations - it's all about keeping things in perspective. If you don't give a situation the power to affect you so strongly then there's no face to lose, and no tears to be shed.

Andrew (enneff), Friday, 28 April 2006 00:37 (twenty years ago)

i think one of the problems for people who cry a lot is that people who don't cry often take tears too seriously and then they say the person crying is 'unbalanced' or 'manipulative'. i think 'expressive' is probably more accurate.

estela (estela), Friday, 28 April 2006 00:46 (twenty years ago)

A lot of women I've wintenssed spontaneously break out into tears in office situations and such I would classify as "manipulative". Those emotionally dishonest types are probably more to blame for the "problems for people who cry a lot".

Andrew (enneff), Friday, 28 April 2006 01:15 (twenty years ago)

FWIW, I have dated a few guys who put the waterworks on in public, on purpose, to embarrass me. They may be fewer in number but they're out there, oh believe me :/

Trayce (trayce), Friday, 28 April 2006 01:41 (twenty years ago)

"Do you really want to give so much emotional weight to something so trivial? The same goes for workplace confrontations - it's all about keeping things in perspective."

See, this is the thing. I DON'T REALLY CARE THAT MUCH ABOUT THESE THINGS, just my tear ducts work all the time, so it seems like I do. I cry over all sorts of things: laughing too hard, watching a funeral, cutting onions, any kind of physical shock like stubbing a toe or being winded, being in a frustrating meeting...

It is wrong to think that tears are a sign of emotional imbalance. I prefer Estela's term expressive.

I suppose I am quite lucky though because it does not affect my ability to talk, just my eyes pour water. Sometimes yoga like concentration on breathing can stop it, usually it just plays itself out.

That said, I also cry like proper emotional snorking quite a bit too, but that is usually in the privacy of my own home and for reasons I will not go into. I think this does make you feel calmer afterwards. Though also red and headachey.

isadora (isadora), Friday, 28 April 2006 02:02 (twenty years ago)

So hang on are we talking about tears or crying here? Because the the acct of "crying" carries an emotional significance for me.

Andrew (enneff), Friday, 28 April 2006 02:05 (twenty years ago)

I think they are two separate things but they don't always look it.

If you are standing around with tears streaming down your face people assume you are crying and emotionally overwrought while from the inside it just means "damn, I missed the bus" or "the privet is flowering"

isadora (isadora), Friday, 28 April 2006 02:44 (twenty years ago)

I'm feeling on the edge of tears at the moment, but that could be PMT.

What's PMT? Pre-Menstrual Tension? PreMenstrual Teariness? Is this a typo? PMS?

Whispy Fandango Triphop (unclejessjess), Friday, 28 April 2006 04:17 (twenty years ago)

"The privet is flowering"!!

Andrew, how does one sort out their 'emotional responsibilities'?

I hate that I get worked up enough to cry over certain things, confrontation, frustration, sheer anger, and I hate that once I feel it welling there is nothing I can do to stop it.

It always seems to be other people who set it off in me (although I often cry alone if I've just left a confrontation with someone)

On the other hand however I find it very hard to cry at movies, books, memories. I've rarely had pain so bad that it has made me cry. I doubt I could make myself cry even if I thought my hardest about deceased relatives, dead pets etc.

If it were simply a case of choosing when was appropiate to cry, well, that's when manipulation comes into it.

Rumpie (lil drummer girl parumpumpumpu), Friday, 28 April 2006 05:23 (twenty years ago)

I cry when I'm in a discussion and I can't get my ideas across. This happens very often to me now that I'm in a French conversation class. Especially when we have discussions about religion and people are hurt by something I said and I can't make up for it because I can't find the words.

Eva van Rein (Gaia1981), Friday, 28 April 2006 07:01 (twenty years ago)

Oh, and I didn't find a method to stop crying yet, so my way of handling it is getting all panicky and running out of class. I'm such a drama queen.

Eva van Rein (Gaia1981), Friday, 28 April 2006 07:05 (twenty years ago)

(Whispy, PMS is commonly though not exclusively known as Pre-Menstrual Tension (PMT) in the UK.)

Archel (Archel), Friday, 28 April 2006 08:40 (twenty years ago)

Yes, it sounds somewhat more polite than OHMIGOD I FEEL A GUSHER COMING ON!!!

It makes me cry at ridiculous things. I cried on the train today when COBE nearly got cancelled after the Space Shuttle disaster (in Simon Singh's Big Bang), even though I *know* that it all worked out in the end because I'd *seen* maps of the CMB variations in the papers. It was just such dramatic tension. I wish I were kidding. I totally teared up, it was embarrassing.

It's not being "mentally unbalanced" or whatever, it's just called being sensitive. I think people that don't cry are mentally unbalanced. I think people who don't get engaged, emotionally, by online communities are totally suspect. But whatever, that's why there's chocolate and vanilla.

Wear High Heels, Get A Record Deal (kate), Friday, 28 April 2006 08:45 (twenty years ago)

I think people who don't get engaged, emotionally, by online communities are totally suspect.

not all online communities are the same, i am engaged by some and emotionally destroyed by others. not that i understand what you mean.

myspace is hardly engaging.

teh_kit has 18 friends (g-kit), Friday, 28 April 2006 12:07 (twenty years ago)

i had pms a couple of weeks ago and i was driving home in the late afternoon autumn light and elo's 'telephone line' came on the radio and i sobbed and sobbed.
no one was with me so it wasn't any kind of ruse.

estela (estela), Friday, 28 April 2006 12:21 (twenty years ago)

I can't remember the last time I cried. I don't think it's as important or necessary as it's made out to be though - and that's not down to social conditioning re masculinity really, in my case. I had tearful moments growing up same as your average kid. But emotional release can manifest in other ways and seemingly has done since adulthood. And it can only be judged as as 'unbalanced' as crying 'too much' or at relatively trivial (subjective tho of course) things seemingly all the time. Plus surely it's more of a hormonal issue rather than a mental one.

Konal Doddz (blueski), Friday, 28 April 2006 12:26 (twenty years ago)

When our septic system d-box pump burned out I had to resort to tears to get the electrician to come replace it. It was entirely unforced.

I also cry at movies and emotional memories. At my son's high school graduation a girl with extreme cerebral palsy received a spontaneous standing ovation from her classmates as she struggled up to the podium, assisted by her father, to get her diploma. It was four years ago, and I STILL can't talk about it (or ever type about it) without tearing up.

Beth Parker (Beth Parker), Friday, 28 April 2006 12:33 (twenty years ago)

Think about Rip Taylor. Not only will you want to laugh instead of cry, but you'll also get some kind of hormone release that Kate mentioned.

i prefer to think about Rip Torn myself. Aww Artie! Here. Have a Salty Dog.

I tend to go into shut down mode (or what the life coaches on 'starting over' call 'isolating' - hi rhonda!) rather than cry. Does anyone ever cry over certain things when they aren't sad or angry? I find myself tearing up when I'm reading/watching/listening to anything about the American Revolution. It makes no sense whatsoever. Im not sad, not mad, and its about as engaging as reading the back of a seed packet but uh-oh here come the waterworks. Bizarre. Maybe I was King George in a past life. Peeing pink, going crazy and hating on the colonies.

sunny successor (katharine), Friday, 28 April 2006 12:35 (twenty years ago)

i tear up at movies constantly, music occasionally, TV less so - human beings? never

Tracey Hand (tracerhand), Friday, 28 April 2006 14:21 (twenty years ago)

yeah fuck those guys

sunny successor (katharine), Friday, 28 April 2006 16:44 (twenty years ago)

SRSLY

Tracey Hand (tracerhand), Friday, 28 April 2006 16:47 (twenty years ago)

two years pass...

Em gets like this. She'd like not to be.

Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Monday, 17 November 2008 14:14 (seventeen years ago)

i can't remember the last time i cried :(

not_goodwin, Monday, 17 November 2008 17:31 (seventeen years ago)

I cry over happy things a lot. Seeing the crowds of people cheering on election night always tears me up. A wedding, absolutely. When sad obviously, sometimes when frustrated. Never when angry anymore which is good as that often leads to people not taking you very seriously.

Bella Swan Song (Susan), Monday, 17 November 2008 17:34 (seventeen years ago)

what U cry 4 (jim), Monday, 17 November 2008 17:36 (seventeen years ago)

Crying in public is extraordinarily humiliating for me. Nothing makes me feel more like a helpless, useless little kid.

Abbott of the Trapezoid Monks (Abbott), Monday, 17 November 2008 19:26 (seventeen years ago)

I have the opposite problem. Sometimes I really need a good cry but it just doesn't happen.

chap, Monday, 17 November 2008 19:28 (seventeen years ago)

I will donate to you half of my ability to cry in a sensitivectomy transplant/donor surgery.

Abbott of the Trapezoid Monks (Abbott), Monday, 17 November 2008 19:29 (seventeen years ago)

The worst is when a good cry lacks the useful catharsis that often comes afterward. This usually happens when crying myself to sleep.

Abbott of the Trapezoid Monks (Abbott), Monday, 17 November 2008 19:30 (seventeen years ago)

Also the words "Don't cry" are a magic incantation that make me instantly sob like crazy.

Abbott of the Trapezoid Monks (Abbott), Monday, 17 November 2008 19:30 (seventeen years ago)

Speak of the fucking devil, just got done with a 15-minute in-public crying jab.

I did have a quiet place to go, tho, the rarely frequented lounge in the fourth floor of the biology dept. building. But terrified the whole time someone wld walk in and talk to me.

Fuck, I feel like ass grande.

Abbott of the Trapezoid Monks (Abbott), Monday, 17 November 2008 22:45 (seventeen years ago)

Upset and mad. I had difficulty not throwing shit across the room at these belligerent assholes who kept fucking talking over the prof and who were making like obscene gestures at me. And the prof laughed it off when I talked to him after class about it. So I limped off like a kicked puppy and cried ahoy.

Abbott of the Trapezoid Monks (Abbott), Monday, 17 November 2008 22:49 (seventeen years ago)

Wait, a puppy that speaks pirate?!

What's the matter, London, can't you read fish? (Michael White), Monday, 17 November 2008 22:53 (seventeen years ago)

Sailors are salty dogs, it's well known.

Abbott of the Trapezoid Monks (Abbott), Monday, 17 November 2008 22:58 (seventeen years ago)

i cry at anything - i cry at music a lot, a lot, very obvious chord sequences that say 'sad' and huge synthpoppy dnce tracks that say 'euphoric' and i cried quite recently watching, like, obama speeches on youtube and felt like the wussiest girl in the world.

when i was coming home from japan and stupidly strung out I remember crying trying to sort out my health insurance forms, in the council building, and feeling so so ashamed of my waterworks and incapable of explaining myself and that just made me cry more, and people were kind to me and that made me cry even more, and the nice man behind the desk said weakly 'don't cry' and made it even worse, and, wow, one of the most humiliating experiences of my life.

king lame (c sharp major), Monday, 17 November 2008 23:10 (seventeen years ago)

i'm so jealous of people that can have a good cry. i get a little choked up at certain things and feel like i'm gonna set off, but it just doesn't happen.

not_goodwin, Monday, 17 November 2008 23:25 (seventeen years ago)

I wish I could have good cries under the circumstances in which they are called for, not like whatever tips me off. A change in barometric pressure? The east wind? who knows.

Abbott of the Trapezoid Monks (Abbott), Monday, 17 November 2008 23:27 (seventeen years ago)

The last good cry i had where i was actually shaking and couldn't speak was about 7 years ago :(

not_goodwin, Monday, 17 November 2008 23:33 (seventeen years ago)

I am still crying. This is just impractical at best.

Abbott of the Trapezoid Monks (Abbott), Monday, 17 November 2008 23:42 (seventeen years ago)

Try yawning. For the longest time, whenever I was about to have a nice cry, I'd just start yawning.

en i see kay, Monday, 17 November 2008 23:49 (seventeen years ago)

the east wind sounds a likely suspect.

can you go somewhere cold, Abbot? sometimes cold fresh air helps me not start crying again, though the problem is finding somewhere out of people's sight.

king lame (c sharp major), Monday, 17 November 2008 23:52 (seventeen years ago)

I am in library where it is always safe & slightly drafty.

Abbott of the Trapezoid Monks (Abbott), Monday, 17 November 2008 23:52 (seventeen years ago)

I should really learn to stfu, sorry all.

Abbott of the Trapezoid Monks (Abbott), Monday, 17 November 2008 23:53 (seventeen years ago)

Why fight it? Just cry it out.

What's the matter, London, can't you read fish? (Michael White), Monday, 17 November 2008 23:53 (seventeen years ago)

I felt quite sad watching Obama speeches on youtube too, just like, the sense that even though I really felt moved by his delivery and who he is, that the world was never going to be a particularly great place.

Local Garda, Monday, 17 November 2008 23:54 (seventeen years ago)


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