― Jay-Kid (Jay-Kid), Sunday, 16 July 2006 14:13 (nineteen years ago)
― n/a (Nick A.), Sunday, 16 July 2006 14:20 (nineteen years ago)
it could just be that the plots share somethings, but it's probably a little more than that. they both highlight the farcical qualities of their character's striving suffering - the russian debutante's handbook is more overt with its absurdity though.
you should read it, it's good.
― jhoshea (scoopsnoodle), Sunday, 16 July 2006 14:35 (nineteen years ago)
― More Tongue Feldman (noodle vague), Sunday, 16 July 2006 14:47 (nineteen years ago)
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0060975857/103-3098404-3896665?v=glance&n=283155
Not as expansive, but equally immersive.
― chap who would dare to start Raaatpackin (chap), Sunday, 16 July 2006 15:58 (nineteen years ago)
http://images.amazon.com/images/P/0679720766.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg
― jhoshea (scoopsnoodle), Sunday, 16 July 2006 16:56 (nineteen years ago)
― chap who would dare to start Raaatpackin (chap), Sunday, 16 July 2006 16:57 (nineteen years ago)
― jhoshea (scoopsnoodle), Sunday, 16 July 2006 17:06 (nineteen years ago)
― jhoshea (scoopsnoodle), Monday, 17 July 2006 12:19 (nineteen years ago)
so , Freedom:
to sum up the reviews:
a modern classic.
who will be the first ilxor to finish it and approve/contradict?
― Zeno, Sunday, 29 August 2010 19:45 (fifteen years ago)
didn't like the corrections, but really liked the excerpt of freedom that was in the new yorker
― mizzell, Sunday, 29 August 2010 19:49 (fifteen years ago)
I did like his advice to writers, as told to TIME Magazine: buy a computer/laptop without a wireless card, or rip it out.
― Gucci Mane hermeneuticist (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 29 August 2010 19:50 (fifteen years ago)
http://www.newyorker.com/fiction/features/2009/06/08/090608fi_fiction_franzen?currentPage=all
xpost
― Zeno, Sunday, 29 August 2010 19:52 (fifteen years ago)
liked this one even morehttp://www.newyorker.com/fiction/features/2010/05/31/100531fi_fiction_franzen
― mizzell, Sunday, 29 August 2010 19:54 (fifteen years ago)
I'm looking forward to it. Everything I read about it being a state-of-the-nation, iPod-dissing, Israel-critiquing Great Novel I can do without, I just want his people & his stories.
― Ismael Klata, Sunday, 29 August 2010 19:58 (fifteen years ago)
he is like an over-analyzed Updike, but i like it.
― Zeno, Sunday, 29 August 2010 20:21 (fifteen years ago)
Oh dear
Do I send my unread, accidentally-printed draft copy back or keep it as a collector's item?
― Matt DC, Friday, 1 October 2010 09:36 (fifteen years ago)
The Corrections, of Jonathan Franzen
― progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Friday, 1 October 2010 09:39 (fifteen years ago)
there are better ways to have made that joke i realise
― progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Friday, 1 October 2010 09:53 (fifteen years ago)
I tweeted that story and immediately got some bizarre Twitterspam for the Kindle, like it was mocking me and going "THAT WON'T HAPPEN HERE".
― Matt DC, Friday, 1 October 2010 09:56 (fifteen years ago)
I don't generally have a good memory for specific lines from books but I started reading Freedom and I like when he's talking about the punk band playing, saying the band is so loud that loudness is their defining characteristic over melody or rhythm, and he compares it to something like food that's so hot that you can't taste it, and it's a good line and I keep thinking about it
― congratulations (n/a), Friday, 1 October 2010 16:29 (fifteen years ago)
"Then he and the band went totally haywire, churning out a vicious assault of noise that Patty couldn't hear any sort of beat in. The music was like food too hot to have any taste..."
― congratulations (n/a), Friday, 1 October 2010 17:38 (fifteen years ago)
yr paraphrase is better
― thomp, Friday, 1 October 2010 18:39 (fifteen years ago)
Classic Guardian blog comment on the uncorrected proof snafu:
"Until this "error" happened I'd never heard of Jonathan Franzen, so if it was a stunt it's definitely worked."
Yeah, it's not as if he's been on the cover of Time or written the most celebrated novel of the past decade, you stupid, fatuous motherfucker.
― Haunted Clocks For Sale (Dorianlynskey), Sunday, 3 October 2010 22:56 (fifteen years ago)
4th estate wanted to pulp £800,000 worth of books. publishers making so much money and all that.
― jed_, Sunday, 3 October 2010 23:00 (fifteen years ago)
wonder if they did do that or not. or what the mistakes really were. i read freedom in any case. i liked it. dont know about instant classic or best book of the century or whatever but its a gripping read. at times i thought maybe he was trying to shoehorn every 00s issue going (the bit about the housing crisis toward the end esp) but a lot of the environmental debates were pretty great. and theres a lot of great writing. was just surprised that for a 'great american novel' it had so many modern culture refs. though maybe thats what makes it such a good *modern* Great American Novel. the guardian had a terrible review of it. they should get actual fiction experts to review books rather than novelists' peers.
― titchy (titchyschneiderMk2), Tuesday, 1 February 2011 14:50 (fifteen years ago)
I reread a lot of The Corrections, again, and loved it, again.
― the pinefox, Wednesday, 22 February 2012 09:36 (fourteen years ago)
I recently read, and enjoyed, Adam Haslett's Union Atlantic which is in a similar vein. It even has the obligatory dreadful pop music reference, in that there's a scene where a character gets caned and listens to Radiohead and finds himself.
― Homosexual Satan Wasp (Matt DC), Wednesday, 22 February 2012 10:57 (fourteen years ago)
Tom Perotta's Little Children is in this vein (though a lot quicker & lighter), and a very enjoyable read. It's better than the movie adaptation, the tone is a lot surer.
― Inevitable stupid samba mix (chap), Wednesday, 22 February 2012 21:40 (fourteen years ago)