fuck the israeli govt, fuck aipac, fuck the simon wiesenthal center, fuck the adl, fuck the "jewish community" in america, fuck al qaeda, fuck the syrian govt, fuck the iranian govt, fuck the russian

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sincerely,

an american jew

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Sunday, 30 July 2006 08:02 (nineteen years ago)

i sympathise obv. but would it not be better to vent like this on A New Thread fot the Current Israel/Palestine/Lebanon mess ?

Konal Doddz (blueski), Sunday, 30 July 2006 08:11 (nineteen years ago)

It's a bit of a mouthful, but -- why not? -- let's make this thread title the new ILX catchphrase. Slip it in on threads about Big Brother and so on. Here and there. Oh, and fuck Tourette's Syndrome too!

Momus (Momus), Sunday, 30 July 2006 08:12 (nineteen years ago)

STIGMATA! STIGMATA! STIGMATA! STIGMATA!

NoTimeBeforeTime (Barry Bruner), Sunday, 30 July 2006 08:16 (nineteen years ago)

fuck left-wing kneejerk anti-zionism

so OTM. i mean, israel is as stupid and corrupt as the next country, but if i hear one more lindbergh leftist go on about how the u.s.'s ties with israel are responsible for EVERYTHING BAD EVER i'm going to puke.

of course "fuck rightwing kneejerk pro-israeli positions" is totally OTM too.

J.D. (Justyn Dillingham), Sunday, 30 July 2006 09:08 (nineteen years ago)

http://jewsdidwtc.com/images/LOLATJUUUZ.png

ESTEBAN BUTTEZ The Unstoppable Troll Machine (ESTEBAN BUTTEZ~!!!), Sunday, 30 July 2006 10:52 (nineteen years ago)

JD for fuck's sake if you pull just one thing out of this thread title, italicize it and go "OTM!!" you have just missed the entire point of this thread, such as it is

Euai Kapaui (tracerhand), Sunday, 30 July 2006 11:24 (nineteen years ago)

bush, fuck rice

so OTM.

StanM (StanM), Sunday, 30 July 2006 12:05 (nineteen years ago)

so is this a call for common sense, or just a general fuck off to the world?

i'll mitya halfway (mitya), Sunday, 30 July 2006 13:38 (nineteen years ago)

is there a difference these days?

grimly fiendish (grimlord), Sunday, 30 July 2006 13:39 (nineteen years ago)

Barry's answer is the best so far.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 30 July 2006 13:41 (nineteen years ago)

who the hell is Barry

Thomas Tallis (Tommy), Sunday, 30 July 2006 15:09 (nineteen years ago)

If you've got a heart then
Barry's a part of youuuuuuu

kingfish cyclopean ice cream (kingfish 2.0), Sunday, 30 July 2006 15:12 (nineteen years ago)

he's NoTimeBeforeTime, TT

Euai Kapaui (tracerhand), Sunday, 30 July 2006 15:32 (nineteen years ago)

"fuck the word 'freedom'" - in trying to imagine what this would literally look like, my mind just exploded

timmy tannin (pompous), Sunday, 30 July 2006 15:39 (nineteen years ago)

what do we do after we are done fucking all of them?

scott seward (scott seward), Sunday, 30 July 2006 15:45 (nineteen years ago)

i hear the simon wiesenthal center doesn't like to cuddle :(

scott seward (scott seward), Sunday, 30 July 2006 15:45 (nineteen years ago)

some of those that were forces, are the same that bore crosses!
some of those that were forces, are the same that bore crosses!
some of those that were forces, are the same that bore crosses!
some of those that were forces, are the same that bore crosses!

UGH!

KILLING IN THE NAME OF!

those who died are justified, for wearing the badge and your clothes in white

fuck you i won't do what you tell me
fuck you i won't do what you tell me
fuck you i won't do what you tell me
fuck you i won't do what you tell me
fuck you i won't do what you tell me
fuck you i won't do what you tell me
fuck you i won't do what you tell me
fuck you i won't do what you tell me
FUCK YOU I WON'T DO WHAT YOU TELL ME
FUCK YOU I WON'T DO WHAT YOU TELL ME
FUCK YOU I WON'T DO WHAT YOU TELL ME
FUCK YOU I WON'T DO WHAT YOU TELL ME
FUCK YOU I WON'T DO WHAT YOU TELL ME
FUCK YOU I WON'T DO WHAT YOU TELL ME
FUCK YOU I WON'T DO WHAT YOU TELL ME
FUCK YOU I WON'T DO WHAT YOU TELL ME


MOTHER FUCKER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111

UGH!

ken c (ken c), Sunday, 30 July 2006 15:49 (nineteen years ago)

o is this a call for common sense, or just a general fuck off to the world?

WHAT'S THE DIF?

Alicia Titsovich (sexyDancer), Sunday, 30 July 2006 16:16 (nineteen years ago)

As They say over on that ILM: "subsitute 'rock' for 'fuck' and watch what happens" (actually, that's just a translation of what They say, but close enough)

don (dow), Sunday, 30 July 2006 18:26 (nineteen years ago)

I'm pretty much with Amateurist on this one.

Abbadavid Berman (Hurting), Sunday, 30 July 2006 19:02 (nineteen years ago)

me too

Baaderonixx immer wieder (baaderonixx), Sunday, 30 July 2006 19:20 (nineteen years ago)

well, that did something

cousin larry bundgee (bundgee), Sunday, 30 July 2006 19:28 (nineteen years ago)

as always, ice cube said it first and said it best (in 1990):

FUCK ALL Y'ALL!!!

Eisbär (llamasfur), Sunday, 30 July 2006 19:38 (nineteen years ago)

JD for fuck's sake if you pull just one thing out of this thread title, italicize it and go "OTM!!" you have just missed the entire point of this thread, such as it is

you apparently missed the part where i said "of course "fuck rightwing kneejerk pro-israeli positions" is totally OTM too." but if it makes you feel any better, i think everything else in the thread title is OTM too.

J.D. (Justyn Dillingham), Sunday, 30 July 2006 22:14 (nineteen years ago)

ALL OR NOTHING

IN OR OUT

YES I FEEL BETTER NOW

Euai Kapaui (tracerhand), Sunday, 30 July 2006 22:31 (nineteen years ago)

Um, guuuuuuuuuuuys?

Ixnay on the uckfay Israel, um, ay...
http://www.hermetic.ch/egfc/iao-original-logo_q90.jpg

the doaple gonger (nickalicious), Sunday, 30 July 2006 22:48 (nineteen years ago)

El Iz-Ray-Ay

Euai Kapaui (tracerhand), Sunday, 30 July 2006 23:03 (nineteen years ago)

Ixnay on the uckfay Israel, um, ay...

ahh, come on, it's not like anybody said "DEATH TO ISRAEL" or anything.

GOD PUNCH TO HAWKWIND (yournullfame), Sunday, 30 July 2006 23:08 (nineteen years ago)

oh shit.

GOD PUNCH TO HAWKWIND (yournullfame), Sunday, 30 July 2006 23:08 (nineteen years ago)

first they came for the nihilists, and i didn't...

a name means a lot just by itself (lfam), Sunday, 30 July 2006 23:32 (nineteen years ago)

I didn't know you were American, am.

Eric H. (Eric H.), Monday, 31 July 2006 00:50 (nineteen years ago)

It is simple:

fuck.

trees (treesessplode), Monday, 31 July 2006 04:29 (nineteen years ago)

amateurist is like springsteen's nephew eric, dude's CRAZY american

j blount (papa la bas), Monday, 31 July 2006 05:16 (nineteen years ago)

FUCK BLAIR TOO

Enrique (Enrique), Monday, 31 July 2006 07:10 (nineteen years ago)

AND FUCK MRS BUCKET

Ed (dali), Monday, 31 July 2006 07:12 (nineteen years ago)

COCKPUNCH STEPHEN HARPER

anthony easton (anthony), Monday, 31 July 2006 07:48 (nineteen years ago)

kill them all. God will know His own.

Simon de Montfort (dirtyvicar), Monday, 31 July 2006 08:44 (nineteen years ago)

And while we're at it, fuck Momus and his Angrael nonsense too.

"C" (Holey), Monday, 31 July 2006 09:38 (nineteen years ago)

So to conclude, we're all fucked.

Hello Sunshine (Hello Sunshine), Monday, 31 July 2006 10:41 (nineteen years ago)

"fuck the word 'freedom'" - in trying to imagine what this would literally look like, my mind just exploded

Just focus on the hole in the o.

Beth Parker (Beth Parker), Monday, 31 July 2006 12:26 (nineteen years ago)

i have no idea what amateurist is trying to say. is there something particular that this is in response to? is the significance that these are the thoughts of "an american jew"? who do you want to say these things to? is there significance in the omission of hezbollah (and the lebanese government) from the list (and the inclusion of al qaeda)? are you suggesting that "support for israel" is "right-wing"? i haven't followed this story more closely than some attention to the battlefield and the lebanese and israeli public and the wider mideast significance, but i haven't the faintest idea what the adl and simon wiesenthal center have to do with it. also, what is "the 'jewish community' in america"? what is a "repufuck" and is it characteristic of certain retired generals? which ones?

gabbneb (gabbneb), Monday, 31 July 2006 12:39 (nineteen years ago)

I'M A PRO-SEMITIC MORON.
I THINK ABOUT THE HOLOCAUST 17 HOURS A DAY.
SIX BILLION JEWS DIED IN THE HOLOCAUST.
GERMANY MUST PAY FOR THE HOLOCAUST.
THE US MUST PAY FOR THE HOLOCAUST.
THE HOLOCAUST IS STILL HAPPENING.
MY DOG IS SECRETLY ANTI-SEMITIC.
THE US MUST PAY PAY ISRAEL 6 TRILLION DOLLARS A YEAR FOREVER.
PAUL WOLFOWITZ AND DOUGLAS FEITH ARE GREAT JEWS.
THE US MUST INVADE LEBANON TO PROTECT ISRAEL.
THE US MUST INVADE IRAN TO PROTECT ISRAEL.
GENRIKH YAGODA WAS A GREAT JEW.
ALL GENTILES SECRETLY DESPISE MATZO BALLS.

wostyntje (wostyntje), Monday, 31 July 2006 13:02 (nineteen years ago)

amateurist is like springsteen's nephew eric, dude's CRAZY american

-- j blount (jamesbloun...) (webmail), July 31st, 2006 2:16 AM. (papa la bas) (later) (link)

^^^ LOL @ this!

Allyzay knows where the interfacing goes. (allyzay), Monday, 31 July 2006 13:04 (nineteen years ago)

sorry, I just don't understand the point that amateurist is making. it doesn't seem to me that he's saying simply that everyone involved is stupid.

gabbneb (gabbneb), Monday, 31 July 2006 14:17 (nineteen years ago)

everybody OTFM

scnnr drkly (scnnr drkly), Monday, 31 July 2006 17:16 (nineteen years ago)

I think the title of this thread is pretty self-explanatory. All the people mentioned in it are fucking assholes and amateurist a bit angry and frustrated at this fact.

He is totally OTM.

askance johnson (sdownes), Tuesday, 1 August 2006 20:30 (nineteen years ago)

The McCain vs. Hillary election will be a return to Camelot, though.

Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Tuesday, 1 August 2006 21:09 (nineteen years ago)

i think amateurist's "point" is that he is angry and frustrated. i don't think the thread title is meant to be prescriptive.

s1ocki (slutsky), Tuesday, 1 August 2006 21:53 (nineteen years ago)

>I'M A PRO-SEMITIC MORON.
>I THINK ABOUT THE HOLOCAUST 17 HOURS A DAY.
>ALL GENTILES SECRETLY DESPISE MATZO BALLS.

All classic!

(but in what way?)

Squirrel_Police (Squirrel_Police), Wednesday, 2 August 2006 00:47 (nineteen years ago)

And while we're at it, fuck Momus and his Angrael nonsense too.

I've just been calling it Oceania ...

(and including Japan)

literalisp (literalisp), Wednesday, 2 August 2006 01:30 (nineteen years ago)

"repufuck" is a typo

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Wednesday, 2 August 2006 05:19 (nineteen years ago)

but a good one

NoTimeBeforeTime (Barry Bruner), Wednesday, 2 August 2006 06:33 (nineteen years ago)

gif of Eminem throwing two middle fingers to packed arena to thread plz, or something (or Fred Durst)

but the real question is this: am, did starting this thread make you feel any better about, well, anything?

Raymond Cummings (Raymond Cummings), Wednesday, 2 August 2006 17:50 (nineteen years ago)

quite fond of left-wing kneejerk anti-zionism, myself.

"Scuse me, God said I should live here 5000 years ago, and that I can evict you."

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 2 August 2006 18:11 (nineteen years ago)

i'm thinking of when that word, "zionist," is used in that slightly unseemly way, like twice per sentence. "the terrorist army of the ZIONIST regime is set to expand their power according to their ZIONIST plan, which would fulfill the dictates of their ZIONIST forebears." etc. just reminds me too much of your standard "evil cabal of jews" stuff.

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Wednesday, 2 August 2006 22:35 (nineteen years ago)

when reading "the plot against america," it struck me that some of lindbergh's anti-war, anti-jewish rants, if you replaced "jewish leaders" with "zionist leaders" etc, would be pretty unremarkable if you saw them on counterpunch or something.

J.D. (Justyn Dillingham), Wednesday, 2 August 2006 22:39 (nineteen years ago)

"Scuse me, God said I should live here 5000 years ago, and that I can evict you."

those Jews who came beginning in the '20s, they shoulda stayed home where they belonged, amirite? "God" in this case being the United Nations.

gabbneb (gabbneb), Wednesday, 2 August 2006 23:03 (nineteen years ago)

J.D. yeah exactly--sometimes i think "zionist" is used in exactly the same way as "jewish". it's not anti-semitic on the surface, but the logic is familiar.

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Wednesday, 2 August 2006 23:16 (nineteen years ago)

i say this as someone who is not really a zionist, and who feels that it's important that judaism, historically and in today's world, not be equated with zionism (something most of the self-ordained "jewish community" in the u.s. seems happy to do).

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Wednesday, 2 August 2006 23:17 (nineteen years ago)

When I hear/read "zionist", I always think that people are suggesting some massive jewish conspiracy to take over the world.

The Ultimate Conclusion (lokar), Wednesday, 2 August 2006 23:44 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah really, what is the point of that word still being around? My grandfather was a Zionist in Israel/Palestine back when the word had an actual meaning. But the Jewish state's been created, and the Zionists are now called "Israelis."

People who blindly support Israel should be called "people who blindly support Israel." There's not a special English term for any other country, so I don't see why Israel warrants one. This is not to say that Jews still don't use the word "zionist", but it's mostly used in a historic sense. But these days, 90% of the time it's being used as a pejorative with the same old conspiratorial undertones.

starke (starke), Wednesday, 2 August 2006 23:58 (nineteen years ago)

fuck Momus and his Angrael nonsense too

I'd love that Angrael meme to be utterly wrong, and die a rapid death. And the piece you link to is entitled "Cracks in Angrael". We're now beginning to see the unfeasibility of the US-UK-Israel alliance, precisely because it's failed in all its missions and is universally hated. (There's also uncertainty in Angrael because the current leaders are on the way out.)

Mark Malloch Brown, Undersecretary to the UN, said in an FT interview yesterday (reported in the Guardian) "that the crisis between Israel and Lebanon could not be resolved by "the team that led on Iraq".

"This cannot be perceived as a US-UK deal with Israel," he added.

Mr Malloch Brown - who is British - said that the UK and US were poorly placed to broker a deal over Lebanon because of their role in bringing about war in Iraq.

"One of my first bosses taught me it's important to know not just when to lead, but when to follow. For the UK, this is one to follow.

"We need [the French president, Jacques] Chirac and Bush, or Chirac, Bush and [the Egyptian president, Hosni] Mubarak and [Jordanian King] Abdullah on a podium, not President Bush and Mr Blair."

(Guardian)

Now, I agree with that, but I think if you read it carefully, what Malloch Brown is saying is that, while the reality is that Angrael is behind the current events, it must not be perceived that way by the Arabs. To some extent, he's arguing for spin which makes Angrael's agenda look like it has other champions and proponents. He's arguing for putting the wolf in sheep's clothing.

Even Blair's own most recent speeches in California have started to acknowledge that Angrael needs legitimacy rather than brute force if it's to achieve anything in the Middle East. But it's too late; Angrael has shown that its every action creates hardline Islamic radicals and failed states ruled by terrorists. Everything this alliance does just makes things worse. That's why Angrael is cracked and broken. Soon we'll start to see quite different alliances dominating world affairs: the EU, China, India. God, what to call that? Cheudia?

Momus (Momus), Thursday, 3 August 2006 01:56 (nineteen years ago)

(Another crack in Angrael is Israel's humiliation of Condi Rice. 24 hours after she came back from Israel claiming to have secured a two-day ceasefire, Israel started shelling and bombing again.)

Momus (Momus), Thursday, 3 August 2006 02:02 (nineteen years ago)

i like that dude on momus's page who's like "i'm not naive enough to believe that the soviet union stepped in for any reason other than that of self-interest" - well yeah, hitler ATTACKED RUSSIA for fuck's sake! talk about your useless euphemisms.

J.D. (Justyn Dillingham), Thursday, 3 August 2006 05:55 (nineteen years ago)

"rock is not just fuck"

a name means a lot just by itself (lfam), Thursday, 3 August 2006 06:00 (nineteen years ago)

eleven months pass...

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/max-blumenthal/rapture-ready-the-unauth_b_57826.html

schwantz, Thursday, 26 July 2007 20:00 (eighteen years ago)


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