Are you psycho? I'm totally not psycho. Oh, good, I'm not psycho either! Whew!

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So, have any of you seen the latest season of the Real World? Well, I happened to catch a few reruns of the first few episodes recently and.. well, upon viewing the opening installment I was taken quite aback by four of the female roommates having the aforementioned conversation mentioned in the subject line of this thread! So, these four crowded around and proceeded to tell each other how un-psycho they all are, and then also went on to wipe off the invisible beads of sweat off their foreheads--then, shot 2: individual confessional shots of the roommates. One of which spouts off drivel about how she really is nervous about rooming with females, because she just cannot seem to get along with them.

So, question: Can one really judge themself to be "un-psycho"? and part B) How is it that there are some females that choose to not have female comrades? What is it about befriending females that is troublesome? I find girl pals to be just fantastic--in fact, I seem to know very few males in general: only two or three. So why the catty attitude? Maybe some women can help me understand this better. Is it the whole competitive thing? Or.. something more?

Mandee, Saturday, 2 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

My friends are both as long as that's all they want to be is friends. I like women/men equally as friends.

Gale Deslongchamps, Sunday, 3 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

FRIEND PICKLE OF HITCH! THIS TO O IS A THREE!

Mitch LastnamewithHanle y, Sunday, 3 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

i have never had a suspicion of other women in general. i am always suspicious of straight men though. in my experience, a straight man who wants to be friends with me always has a motive. i guess thats why i'm a faghag.

i have been suspicious of a handful of individual women though, but usually my suspicion is based on observations of their behaviour. women who are suspicious of other women make me suspicious.

di, Sunday, 3 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

I find boys easier to get along with because I Love Music, and find it very difficult to find females that genuinely have an anal passion for it. Umm, and before anybody else gets there [insert bad joke about passion for anal sex]. I don't have a problem with girls/women per se, but their interest never seems quite as full or sincere. There are many many exceptions to this, I know, but it is my experience.

emil.y, Sunday, 3 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

I don't have a problem with girls/women per se, but their interest never seems quite as full or sincere. i used to have this female friend who was REALLY wanky about this sort of thing. she flatted with me and would spend all her rent money ordering records she obviously couldn't afford, which of course landed me and my other flatmate in the shit. and she totally judged other women for not having record collections as big as hers. she would always accuse other women of only being into music to "get boyfriends", but in reality she was a complete starfucker who was only into ANYTHING to impress boys. if you didn't like the same stuff as her she would pronounce you as "dumb", and because she was so adamant about her views (which changed every five seconds once you saw through her bull shit) you would almost believe you were dumb.

please don't take this the wrong way emily, i'm not likening you to that person in any way, but there are many reasons why women might not know as much about music as you might, but this doesn't detract from their feeling passion about it and doesn't make their interest any less valid. For myself, i don't know that much about music because i don't have that much money. i can't afford to buy music magazines - there aren't many good ones around in this town. i don't have a PC so that severely limits my mp3 time. and even if i could afford to buy lots of records, the record stores in this town ain't that shit hot anyway. i work within my limitations and that should be taken into account. besides, some people are better at making music than talking about it, and thats just as important.

di, Sunday, 3 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

I love girl friends, couldn't get along without them. I have guy friends too but believe one needs both. Also, I'm suspicious of girls who "just don't get along" with other girls. Usually either they either a) don't get along with a certain TYPE of girl and haven't made an effort to find ones they CAN get along with, or b) can't stand the competition for attention. Knew a girl like this in college who was the darling of a group of guy friends; she'd savage any other girl who got too chummy with them.

Cue flame war.

Pyth, Sunday, 3 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

If my girlfriends and I were on the Real World it would go something like this:

'oh god, I'm such a psycho...'
'yeah but I am too, it's okay'
'Neither of you are anywhere near as psycho as me, at least you don't kiss Men with Translucent Heads and Mashed Yams for Brains!'
'ha ha what about that time we sat on Raccoon Guy's doorstep in the pouring rain and you vomited in the rosegarden and I couldn't stop being in hysterics about that Guy with the Large Head and his Sauce-Covered Friend'
'God that was funny, we are such psychos!'
'and remember when we were on that bushwalk and those sexy french boys came around the corner towards us and we got such a fright and you told them that we thought they were water buffalo'
'ha ha, they must have thought I was such a psycho'
'you are a psycho, Psycho'
'okay, you psycho'
'ha ha, you're the psycho'
'God, I know it.. what am I going to do about being such a psycho?'
'you're nowhere near as psycho as me'
'yes, she is, she's even more psycho than you!'
'well at least I don't use the dictionary game to make subtle digs at the clergy, you psycho'
'ha ha'

etc

rainy, Sunday, 3 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

I think the reason that women collect less music is social. Men are judged on their possessions, women are judged on their personal decorativeness.

charles, Sunday, 3 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

I can't bear it when women don't like other women. I don't know whether their dislike stems from internalised misogyny or misplaced competitiveness (chasing after a dubious prize) and I don't really care any more either. It's just ridiculous to me. I dearly love both my sisters and my women friends.

I hate the defiant way some women will say they don't like other women, and then look around at the men who are present, as though they are expecting a medal.

Nancy Drew, Monday, 4 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

I can't bear it when men don't like other men...

(Why must women always justify their love/hate?)

youn, Monday, 4 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

men don't get judged on their mental well-being the way women do.

di, Monday, 4 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

If I was a man, and men had historically been treated like second-rate citizens,and another man claimed he didn't like men (which would include me, since it would be a universal dismissal of men), I think I would find that unbearable also. I would find it painful and demeaning and stupid.

I wasn't aware women did 'always' have to 'justify' who they love or hate- I have suffered from no such compulsion- and I can't see any justification for disliking an entire gender. Dislikes based upon individual cases are different, because then it is the person who is disliked and not the category.

Nancy Drew, Monday, 4 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

i am always suspicious of straight women. in my experience, a straight woman who wants to be friends with me always has a motive. This is because I think I'm it.

N., Tuesday, 5 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link


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