Best sound card on the market

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Hi, I'm setting up a business recording sound effects for production companies etc., and am also about to buy a new PC. I have a DAT recorder, mid-side mic set up, as well as some professional sound monitors fot the purpose, BUT am still not sure about what the best sound card is. I am also intending to use the PC for music. Budget's not really an issue, because I need the sound quality to be top notch. Any able to make any recommendations / suggestions? I've donew some research, not much - is the Sound Blaster X-Fi Elite Pro the best one out there?

Gareth Clog (Clogger), Thursday, 21 September 2006 17:40 (nineteen years ago)

Reading that back, that was terrible English, sorry!

Gareth Clog (Clogger), Thursday, 21 September 2006 17:42 (nineteen years ago)

I don't claim to know too much about this, but I am pretty certain that Sound Blaster anything is not the best. Look into RME or Apogee stuff.

Elliot (Elliot), Thursday, 21 September 2006 17:42 (nineteen years ago)

If your going to record professionally get a pro sound card. The Lynx studio cards are a simple no nonsense exceptionally high quality card which I've used extensively in broadcast applications. Rock solid.

Ed (dali), Thursday, 21 September 2006 17:43 (nineteen years ago)

Thanks. The PC will also be used for domestic things - DVD watching etc. Will the Lynx sound card prove over-sophisticated on this level?

Gareth Clog (Clogger), Thursday, 21 September 2006 18:08 (nineteen years ago)

Not sure, I've never used it in that kind of application. The 6 output version could do 5.1 surround sound I'm sure.

Ed (dali), Thursday, 21 September 2006 18:10 (nineteen years ago)

Do not buy a Soundblaster - bad prosumer gear. For what is suitable, it all depends on how many ins and outs you need.

If money was not an issue, i would buy this (950US)

http://news.harmony-central.com/Newp/2000/2408-mkII.html

Good Dog (Good Dog), Thursday, 21 September 2006 20:21 (nineteen years ago)

oops that was the mkII. MkIII is better http://www.motu.com/products/pciaudio/2408

Good Dog (Good Dog), Thursday, 21 September 2006 20:22 (nineteen years ago)

Since money isn't an issue, get a pro card.

For others who listen to music on their computers, even if you aren't going to get a pro-level card, you should absolutely not get a sound blaster. They resample everything to 48000, which can hurt the sound quality. A lot of cheapskate audiophiles use the Chaintech AV710. I think they're like $15.

Chris H. (chrisherbert), Thursday, 21 September 2006 20:41 (nineteen years ago)

Cheers Good Dog. MkIII looks impressive - but is it a traditional sound card, that will serve as my computer's default sound system in the same way a Sound Blaster, sitting on my desktop, so I can not only edit with it, but also play recreational CDRs through it etc. Would it install into an XP or is it separate, external, more like a mixing desk?

Gareth Clog (Clogger), Thursday, 21 September 2006 21:20 (nineteen years ago)

If you can afford a 2408 you can afford a second soundcard for consumer purposes.

Ed (dali), Thursday, 21 September 2006 21:25 (nineteen years ago)

What Ed said. Or you can play your computer through your audio system. With external cards you install the software and connect it via firewire and then can hook up your gear to each channel - for the MOTU you have 24 channels in or out (8 analogue). So you can connect little speakers in two channels and monitors in another two, or your recording device, mics, external gear, etc. There are cheaper options though. It depends on what you want to record - you'd only need say, 10 inputs if you want to record a band or many channels for electronic music.

Good Dog (Good Dog), Thursday, 21 September 2006 22:46 (nineteen years ago)

You'll need a soundcard with a couple of mic pre-amps unless you're planning to drop more cash on outboard ones. I'd recommend the RME Fireface 400. It's got nice sounding clean pres, and the A/D conversion is pretty much the best you'll get without spending really big bucks. Something like the Apogee Mini-Me would also be a good choice, but then you'd have to get a seperate D/A converter for monitoring purposes.

jng (jng), Thursday, 21 September 2006 22:47 (nineteen years ago)

Chris H. OTM for casual listening soundcards.

I.M. From Hollywood (i_m_from_hollywood), Thursday, 21 September 2006 23:36 (nineteen years ago)

"If you can afford a 2408 you can afford a second soundcard for consumer purposes." ALternatively, the Lynx, that can be installed to sit on my desktop like a trad sound card, right? It does have some glowing reviews.

Gareth Clog (Clogger), Friday, 22 September 2006 16:38 (nineteen years ago)

I guess so, I've never used in in that situation but it has all the right drivers for that to work. You'll have to deal with the balanced analogue and AES/EBU digital outs in interfacing with consumer gear (Kramer electronics do a good bi-directional balanced/unbalanced converter box, FYI).

Ed (dali), Friday, 22 September 2006 21:04 (nineteen years ago)

Thanks very much Ed. You clearly know your stuff. I appreciate your advice, offered without edge.

Gareth Clog (Clogger), Friday, 22 September 2006 21:30 (nineteen years ago)

eleven months pass...

Hey, anyone have any experiecne with the Digital Audio Labs Card Deluxe?

http://www.digitalaudio.com/DIGITALAUDIO/myarticles.asp?P=5210&S=75&PubID=4401#EmptyAnchor

John Justen, Monday, 10 September 2007 17:11 (eighteen years ago)

experience can be spelled many ways in my country.

John Justen, Monday, 10 September 2007 17:11 (eighteen years ago)

one year passes...

I bought a new laptop which sounds like shit, serious audio latency issues and distortion when playing audio. I don't know all that much about soundcards, but I use mp3 mixing programs as well, and being able to monitor audio with headphones, and maybe to rip vinyl and record audio here and there.

Can anyone recommend a good, not expensive soundcard to get for someone that's not exactly a musician. Also, will a usb soundcard, plugged in all the times slow down my computer in any way? (I really don't know about these things).

Thanks.

EDB, Sunday, 30 August 2009 14:02 (sixteen years ago)

That is: being able to monitor . . . would also be a nice advantage.

EDB, Sunday, 30 August 2009 14:04 (sixteen years ago)

what OS are you using? vista? XP? if XP (and maybe Vista?) there's the kmixer issue - Windows handles sound in a shitty way, such that everything passes through the 'kmixer' program which resamples everything to 48000 and generally degrades sound. google "kmixer bypass" and "ASIO" to fix this.

M-Audio makes good external sound cards I think. try to get a firewire one, as firewire is better for audio stuff - usb inherently puts a drain on the cpu. you might also consider, if you're willing to drop the sound recording requirement, getting an external DAC/amp like this one which will improve your sound a lot.

tony dayo (dyao), Sunday, 30 August 2009 14:21 (sixteen years ago)

You might also want to think about using a PCMCIA card for this -- the ones I know best (Echo Indigo / Echo Indigo DJ) are a little pricier, but I'm sure there are good others.

nabisco, Sunday, 30 August 2009 15:21 (sixteen years ago)

I take that back, actually -- the Indigo DJ looks relatively cheap now. (You'd need that one, since it has separate outputs for mixing / cueing)

nabisco, Sunday, 30 August 2009 15:23 (sixteen years ago)

$89 some places!

nabisco, Sunday, 30 August 2009 15:25 (sixteen years ago)

my pc doesnt have a firewire port, can you buy a firewire adaptor?

also i currently use the DJIO for djing, but i couldn't get it to work with ableton (to cut latency). is the DJIO purely for playing sound OUT and has no use with a DAW? http://www.numark.com/djio

assuming the DJIO is a no go with a DAW, what's the best quality affordable soundcard out there?

NI, Monday, 31 August 2009 14:21 (sixteen years ago)

Thanks a lot for the tips!

I'm using Vista (never had these problems with my old laptop which ran XP, though), and my laptop doesn't have a firewire port either, a google search shows there are usb to firewire adapters though, I don't know how that reflects on a computer's memory usage though.

Chances are I'm not going to record/rip stuff too often, although it may come in handy, but what would be nice is to be able to use my mixer with my laptop (in the sense of traktor type programs). I'm not sure exactly what I need when a lot of time this will be just to enhance music played from itunes.

EDB, Monday, 31 August 2009 18:56 (sixteen years ago)

NI, I use the regular Echo Indigo (not the DJ) with Ableton, via ASIO -- input and output both great (and down to relatively imperceptible latency)

nabisco, Monday, 31 August 2009 19:04 (sixteen years ago)

I think I might just get this Native Instruments one

which seems reliable, although what should I look out for/beware of (other than the need to make some money before I buy any soundcard!)

EDB, Monday, 31 August 2009 19:28 (sixteen years ago)

ah, this is exactly the kind of thing I've been looking into myself. but I'm a total n00b w/this stuff!

want to do some live recordings for a band. (just a bass+drums duo right now but lineup may expand. who knows?) ideally, we're looking a setup where we could just hit "record" and get a decent recording. maybe something that could be mastered by a pro and subsequently be released with as little embarrassment as possible.

we've got a couple of pretty good mics, so as far as I can tell, I think we just need a) a solid sound card and b) software to record/track/mix etc. right?

want to setup a laptop dedicated just to this. OS would either be windows 7 or windows xp if we go pro tools or cubase. or some flavor of linux if I were to use ardour. (unless something better than ardour exists that I'm not aware of.)

leaning towards windows just we're new at this and feel like there would less confusion avoiding the road less traveled.

any thoughts on this from people who know what they're talking about would be GREAT. (last couple posts seem like a great jumping-off point.)

original bgm, Monday, 31 August 2009 20:08 (sixteen years ago)

thanks nabisco, do you know if those echo indigo soundcards can be used on both a macbook pro and a standard pc tower? good review on sound on sound http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/apr04/articles/echoindigo.htm

still not sure what the deal is with DJIO soundcard, it works perfectly (ASIO, v little latency) on my laptop i've tried sticking it in my pc for cutting the latency when playing my usb midi keyboard and got nowhere. i guess it's only for playing stuff out, hence being a DJ thing and having no inputs, but it cuts the latency for my midi controller so im sure it should work the same way in ableton. once i figure it out i'll explain on here

NI, Tuesday, 1 September 2009 19:55 (sixteen years ago)

three months pass...

So how much difference will a just a headphone jack type soundcard make for listening to music off my laptop. Ignoring whatever I said upthread about digital DJ'ing, and not wanting to spend much money, will something like the Creative Labs soundblasters such as this or http://www.amazon.com/Creative-Labs-Xmod-Sound-Card/dp/B000IZ96LQ/ref=pd_cp_e_1_img do anything?

EDB, Saturday, 26 December 2009 02:03 (sixteen years ago)

I bought an ibasso d4 dac/headphone amp, it's fantastic (two Dac chips, veryvcapable amp section) but also pretty expensive

=皿= (dyao), Saturday, 26 December 2009 21:27 (sixteen years ago)

Anyone have experience with those creative labs soundblasters, actually? Particularly the Xmod? It'll only cost me like $40 which is just enough that a noticable but not enormous improvement will still be satisfying but that I would be upset if it turned out to be a total waste of money.

EDB, Monday, 28 December 2009 04:44 (sixteen years ago)


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