Clint Eastwood's Iwo Jima movie -- "Flags of Our Fathers"

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His WWII movie is out today. Anybody seen it yet?

Also, i think it's cool that he's also making a movie about Iwo Jima told from the Japanese side.

― kingfish prætor (kingfish 2.0), Friday, 20 October 2006 14:58 (nineteen years ago)

i kinda wanna see it.

― hstencil (hstencil), Friday, 20 October 2006 15:01 (nineteen years ago)

I am afraid because of That Writer, via Ed Gonzalez:

"The stink of Crash hovers over Flags of Our Fathers... the film is confirmation of Paul Haggis's predilection for exploitation and easy sentimentality."

http://mattzollerseitz.blogspot.com/2006/10/laying-it-on-thick-clint-eastwoods.html

― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Friday, 20 October 2006 15:17 (nineteen years ago)

could have been "the stink of Million Dollar Baby hovers over..." as well.

I'll still go see it, though. After weeks of nothing, there are five movies opening this weekend I want to see (Marie Antoinette, The Prestige, this, The Queen and Last King O' Scotland).

― milo z (mlp), Friday, 20 October 2006 15:23 (nineteen years ago)

No critic I've read accuses the film of sentimentality; the most common criticism is how dully the characters are conceived.

― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Friday, 20 October 2006 15:28 (nineteen years ago)

RT currently has this at 73%/83%.

Metacritic has it at about 78%.

― kingfish prætor (kingfish 2.0), Friday, 20 October 2006 15:32 (nineteen years ago)

I'm in the same boat, milo. I have to decide between this, MA, and The Prestige. It may depend on how many titty shots Christian Bale and Hugh Jackman get as opposed to Ryan Philippe.

― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Friday, 20 October 2006 15:38 (nineteen years ago)

That's a pretty good equation for picking out any movie really.

― Thermo Thinwall (Thermo Thinwall), Friday, 20 October 2006 15:44 (nineteen years ago)

This sounds terrible.

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Friday, 20 October 2006 15:49 (nineteen years ago)

Is he making a sequal which will be from Japanese combatants' point of view or did I dream it?

― chap who would dare to welcome our new stingray masters (chap), Friday, 20 October 2006 15:52 (nineteen years ago)

yup. reading the thread-starting post.

― kingfish prætor (kingfish 2.0), Friday, 20 October 2006 15:56 (nineteen years ago)

more a 'companion piece'

― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Friday, 20 October 2006 16:02 (nineteen years ago)

Oh yeah.

― chap who would dare to welcome our new stingray masters (chap), Friday, 20 October 2006 16:02 (nineteen years ago)

i never knew what our soldiers went through over there. those men truly were

― gear (gear), Friday, 20 October 2006 16:54 (nineteen years ago)

our fathers

― gear (gear), Friday, 20 October 2006 16:54 (nineteen years ago)

i trust those MZS bloggers only so far, though, especially after that embarrassing circlejerk lovefest over 'the black dahlia' i read on the site.

― gear (gear), Friday, 20 October 2006 16:56 (nineteen years ago)

Paul Walker, Ryan Phillipe, Jesse Bradford, Billy Elliot AND Barry Pepper! Sweet enola gay.

― Zwan (miccio), Friday, 20 October 2006 17:01 (nineteen years ago)

Jared Leto turned down a key role in order to commit his time to his band, 30 Seconds to Mars.

― Zwan (miccio), Friday, 20 October 2006 17:02 (nineteen years ago)

With Robert Patrick as the Colonel! Who the fuck casted this thing?

― Zwan (miccio), Friday, 20 October 2006 17:02 (nineteen years ago)

The computer generated doo-dads in the trailers I saw looked horrible.

― lk (lawrence kansas), Friday, 20 October 2006 17:06 (nineteen years ago)

David Rasche appears in the film in a cameo role. Rasche is famous for his lampoon of Clint Eastwood's "Dirty Harry" character in the sitcom "Sledge Hammer!" Eastwood is known for his sense of humor and apparently liked the show.

sweet, one day "sledge hammer" will truly get his due.

for years, i kept confusing David Rasche with Ray Wise for some reason.

― kingfish prætor (kingfish 2.0), Friday, 20 October 2006 17:07 (nineteen years ago)

Clint Eastwood making a movie from the Japanese perspective. Hmm...

― Super Cub (Debito), Friday, 20 October 2006 17:16 (nineteen years ago)

Is he scrunching his eyes up even more than usual?

― Diddumsismus (Dada), Friday, 20 October 2006 17:20 (nineteen years ago)

yeah, when I saw the cast I thought it'll run forever in Chelsea/WeHo/Castro.

― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Friday, 20 October 2006 17:23 (nineteen years ago)

And speaking English haltingly.

xpost

― Super Cub (Debito), Friday, 20 October 2006 17:24 (nineteen years ago)

And speaking English haltingly.

Paul Walker?

― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Friday, 20 October 2006 18:07 (nineteen years ago)

No, Clint Eastwood.

― Super Cub (Debito), Friday, 20 October 2006 18:10 (nineteen years ago)

Supposedly the Japanese aspect of the film is being released in February - total crap movie graveyard. I dont have high hopes for it. Maybe the studios are just wishing the film to failure and its actually good.

― Stuh-du-du-du-du-du-du-denka (jingleberries), Friday, 20 October 2006 18:11 (nineteen years ago)

Naturally it has Ken Watanabe in it.

― Super Cub (Debito), Friday, 20 October 2006 18:13 (nineteen years ago)

In 1968 it would have starred Toshiro Mifune.

― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Friday, 20 October 2006 18:15 (nineteen years ago)

did anybody see this? rightwing assholes are already attacking it, even tho Eastwood was an elected republican mayor once about a time.

I wonder how much of "The Ballad of Ira Hayes" makes it into the film.

― kingfish prætor (kingfish 2.0), Monday, 23 October 2006 22:50 (nineteen years ago)

four months pass...

I saw 300 today, which made me think again about Letters From Iwo Jima and how Frank Miller might handle the to-the-death spirit of the Japanese given different circumstances.

― Alba, Monday, 19 March 2007 19:02 (nineteen years ago)

five months pass...

Both of these movies were great. I saw them on back-to-back nights and it was interesting to see the parallels between both. Specifically, the flamethrower scene really took the 'yay my side is winning' aspect out of both films, insofar as one time it's a small victory and the other time it's a defeat.

― humansuit, Wednesday, 5 September 2007 18:50 (eighteen years ago)

Iwo was a pretty conventional war-is-hell movie.

― Dr Morbius, Wednesday, 5 September 2007 18:52 (eighteen years ago)

I was a sucker for it. Seeing the war from the Japanese side was enough for me. Although at the same time I enjoyed the first film more although I was told it was the inferior of the two.

As a side note, I was very pleased to see this movie made without having to include a white male lead. Nothing wrong with white male leads, but from Dances with Wolves to the Last Samurai to that new one with the Viking who becomes a Native American (please), I've about had it.

― humansuit, Wednesday, 5 September 2007 18:56 (eighteen years ago)

This one had a Japanese male lead who loved America and went to the LA Olympics.

Of Japanese WW2 films I've seen, Fires on the Plain is unstinting.

― Dr Morbius, Wednesday, 5 September 2007 19:01 (eighteen years ago)

Well, yeah, that's true. At least he was not Tom Cruise :)

Thanks for the recommendation.

― humansuit, Wednesday, 5 September 2007 19:03 (eighteen years ago)

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