Japanese Lit in Translation

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Right now I'm reading Akira Yoshimura's 'Shipwrecks' and Natsuo Kirino's 'Out', two very different types of thrillers, both very good.

I see that there are no threads devloted to Japanese lit, so let's give some reccs.

Patrick South (Patrick South), Sunday, 22 October 2006 14:13 (nineteen years ago)

I thought "69" by Ryu Murakmai was pretty funny. You can't go wrong with Kawabata.

I have a book called "Japanese Tales of Mystery & Imagination" by Edogawa Rampo, a kind of Japenese version of Egdar Allen Poe, seriously. His story the "Hauman Chair" is very creppy, and er, more than slightly kinky.

jel -- (jel), Sunday, 22 October 2006 15:14 (nineteen years ago)

Oh, and "the Setting Sun" by Osamu Dazai" is great. Check it out.

jel -- (jel), Sunday, 22 October 2006 15:53 (nineteen years ago)

Being a Go player, I'd have to recommend Kawabata's Master of Go , though I prefer his novel Beauty and Sadness

Bob Six (bobbysix), Sunday, 22 October 2006 15:59 (nineteen years ago)

Nice, I actually ordered that Edogawa Rampo collection a few days ago after being intrigued by the chair story.

I've read Kawabata's 'Snow Country' but didn't care all that much for it. How do those other works compare, stylistically?

Patrick South (Patrick South), Sunday, 22 October 2006 16:05 (nineteen years ago)

Snow Country is hard going I thought. "Beauty and Sadness" and "Sound of the Mountain" are much better reads, they flow a little better.

jel -- (jel), Sunday, 22 October 2006 16:07 (nineteen years ago)

Abe Kobo is great. Check out 'Woman in the Dunes' and 'The Ruined Map'. 'Secret Rendezvous' is also well liked, but I haven't read it.

For mysteries, any of Matsumoto Seicho's books are great. Takagi Akimitsu is also highly recommended, especially 'Honeymoon to Nowhere'.

My favorite Japanese author is undoubtebly Natsume Soseki. Actually, he's my favorite author in general.

Tanizaki Junichiro's 'Naomi' is good.

Oe, Kawabata, and Mishima have never done much for me, but they're certainly well regarded.

Super Cub (Debito), Sunday, 22 October 2006 17:49 (nineteen years ago)

Kokoro by Natsume Soseki is terrific. I like Oe's earliest stories best.

youn (youn), Sunday, 22 October 2006 18:34 (nineteen years ago)

Cool thread.
I just read 'The Cage' by Kenzo Kitakata. A crime novel. He has two others in English, 'Ashes' and 'Winter Sleep.' Recommended.

def zep (calstars), Sunday, 22 October 2006 18:40 (nineteen years ago)

'Winter Sleep' was another book in my order. Which would you say is Kitakata's best? I know that 'The Cage' was just recently released.

I've been going through Vertical Press's (they do Kitakata) catalog and picking out the ones that I found most interesting. I just read Koji Suzuki's 'Paradise' (he does the 'Ring' books, which I haven't read), and Taichi Yamada's 'Strangers'. I went through both of them quickly, though I think Strangers feels a bit dated.

Patrick South (Patrick South), Sunday, 22 October 2006 18:49 (nineteen years ago)

I recently read Oe's A Personal Matter and thought it pretty good. I am almost completely ignorant of Japanese lit, though.

franny (frannyglass), Sunday, 22 October 2006 21:30 (nineteen years ago)

Patrick, I can give you an answer once I get through the others. I really enjoyed the Cage though.

The Japanese Literature Publishing Project is a good resource:
http://www.jlpp.jp/e_published.html

def zep (calstars), Monday, 23 October 2006 00:15 (nineteen years ago)

Does anyone still read Mishima anymore?

i'll mitya halfway (mitya), Monday, 23 October 2006 04:25 (nineteen years ago)

def, thanks for the link! That site is invaluable.

Patrick South (Patrick South), Monday, 23 October 2006 04:57 (nineteen years ago)

Does anyone still read Mishima anymore?

I assume so. What do you mean?

Super Cub (Debito), Monday, 23 October 2006 05:29 (nineteen years ago)

i just read confessions of a mask, which was really good. is it not cool to read mishima anymore? gay nationalists who died in botched seppuku attempts not the in thing?

I have a book called "Japanese Tales of Mystery & Imagination" by Edogawa Rampo, a kind of Japenese version of Egdar Allen Poe, seriously.

edogawa rampo is literally the japanese version of edgar allen poe, that being the japanization of the name. i still haven't read that book but my wife loved it.

everything i've read by kobo abe has been great.

GOD PUNCH TO HAWKWIND (yournullfame), Monday, 23 October 2006 05:49 (nineteen years ago)

two months pass...
Read "Kappa" by Ryunosuke Akutagawa recently. Very good, kind of a warped children's fantasy tale with suicidal/social commentary overtones.

Reading, "The Old Capital" by Kawabata, it's pretty enjoyable - all kimonos and sadness, not at all turgid like "Snow Country".

Also bought "No Longer Human" by Osamu Dazai.

jel -- (jel), Friday, 5 January 2007 17:09 (nineteen years ago)

six years pass...

Tell me some Japanese books to read. I blazed through Mishima and Oe ten years ago but haven't investigated further.

Love: Mishima "After The Banquet", "The Sound Of Waves", "Temple", "Sailor", short stories; Oe "A Personal Matter", "Nip The Buds", "Teach Us To Outgrow", "The Silent Cry"; Kawabata "The Master of Go", "Snow Country".
Hate: Shusako Endo, Murakami, Ishiguro etc.

I haven't read any Junichiro or Soseki but I've ordered "The Makioka Sisters" and "Kokoro". Tell me more.

flamboyant goon tie included, Monday, 18 November 2013 09:56 (twelve years ago)

http://blogcritics.org/book-review-diary-of-a-mad/

Nilmar Honorato da Silva, Monday, 18 November 2013 11:12 (twelve years ago)

i've not read makioka but the ichikawa film is on bluray and worth seeing, it is a 'modern classic' in japan and frequently adapted aiui

clouds knows this area better than i do, he should be able to recommend some more

Nilmar Honorato da Silva, Monday, 18 November 2013 11:13 (twelve years ago)

I think I've read all Mishima available in English apart from the plays: I'd recommend "Sun and Steel" the Tetralogy next which I'm sure I'll find bits of it iffy whenever I get round to a re-read but I really like it a lot.

Kawabata: "Beauty and Sadness". I also want to read "The Scarlet Gang of Asakusa".

Never really got into "I am a Cat". Not sure I'll ever get round to "Makioka Sisters".

xyzzzz__, Monday, 18 November 2013 12:39 (twelve years ago)

late xp: i really don't! part of an apprehension to read japanese things in translation but currently and for the foreseeable future, not skillful enough to read in the original

clouds, Saturday, 30 November 2013 19:12 (twelve years ago)

Really enjoyed Arthur Waley's translation (I think it was him anyway) of a play called Atsumori, got my hands on a Penguin Classics collection of Noh Dramas too. Difficult to visualise the stage sets and symbolic positioning and fan-waving but the concision of the plots is amazing

cardamon, Saturday, 30 November 2013 19:47 (twelve years ago)

"The Sound of the Mountain" was my fave Kawabata, prob due for a reread tbh.
Akutagawa's gr8, as is Abe ("Woman in the Dunes", "The Ark Sakura"). Does yr Murakami hate encompass Ryu as well as Haruki? If not, "Almost Transparent Blue" might be worth yr time.

etc, Saturday, 30 November 2013 20:09 (twelve years ago)

ten months pass...

Finished Kokoro by Soseki and that is amazing.

Has anyone read his unfinished novel Light and Darkness?

Feeling the need to track down No Longer Human by Dazai.

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 1 October 2014 23:17 (eleven years ago)

i've been reading kawabata at the rate of one book every two months

favorite so far is sound of the mountain

I dunno. (amateurist), Wednesday, 1 October 2014 23:21 (eleven years ago)

'no longer human' is great!

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Wednesday, 1 October 2014 23:21 (eleven years ago)

kokoro is one of my all-time favorites, but have only read the english translation. can't wait to be able to read sōseki in the original.

clouds, Friday, 3 October 2014 00:53 (eleven years ago)

clouds - it was you listing this on another thread that got me thinking I should give Soseki another go (I didn't like I am a Cat)

xyzzzz__, Friday, 3 October 2014 07:56 (eleven years ago)

i got abt halfway through that one before giving up, too "funny"

clouds, Friday, 3 October 2014 14:49 (eleven years ago)

I sadly finished it because I'm too dumb to give up on books.

xyzzzz__, Friday, 3 October 2014 15:11 (eleven years ago)

nine years pass...
one year passes...

This is a very nice essay about a mother-daughter team (from the daughter) on their collaboration when translating quite a few Japanese novels to Swedish.

https://swedishbookreview.org/joy-translating-gone

xyzzzz__, Friday, 28 March 2025 15:17 (one year ago)

seven months pass...

Ok piece on Kawabata, his feud with Dazai, etc.

https://libertiesjournal.com/articles/the-high-art-of-distance/

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 5 November 2025 10:21 (seven months ago)


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