when is brunch?

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THIS WILL BE FRACTIOUS.

i have always said some time after noon, but this philosophy has been taken issue with

Euai Kapaui (tracerhand), Monday, 23 October 2006 10:44 (nineteen years ago)

YUMMY GREASY STUFF BEFORE NOON.

after noon is an early lunch!

The Lex (The Lex), Monday, 23 October 2006 10:46 (nineteen years ago)

i'm more of an Elevenses kinda schmoe.

;_; (blueski), Monday, 23 October 2006 10:46 (nineteen years ago)

brunch is a single meal that incorporates your breakfast and lunch i.e. you wake up late and eat a large-ish meal that will keep you going past luncthime.

wogan lenin (dog latin), Monday, 23 October 2006 10:46 (nineteen years ago)

it is not brunch if hash browns are not involved.

The Lex (The Lex), Monday, 23 October 2006 10:47 (nineteen years ago)

it so is.

wogan lenin (dog latin), Monday, 23 October 2006 10:47 (nineteen years ago)

Why do people never have Lunner?

;_; (blueski), Monday, 23 October 2006 10:48 (nineteen years ago)

has anyone on ilx actually ever eaten elevenses, you know, as a meal called "elevenses" rather than you just fancied helping yourself to a handful of sugar puffs straight out the cereal box at around 11.

wogan lenin (dog latin), Monday, 23 October 2006 10:49 (nineteen years ago)

i have lunner, except I call it Dunch. No I think the reason why Lunner isn't a real meal is because we generally like to go to bed on a full stomach.

wogan lenin (dog latin), Monday, 23 October 2006 10:49 (nineteen years ago)

'St. Michael's Meal'

;_; (blueski), Monday, 23 October 2006 10:50 (nineteen years ago)

People should get up at 6, eat a BANQUET of a breakfast and then very little else the rest of the day. Maybe start work later and finish later too. Further details in my newsletter.

;_; (blueski), Monday, 23 October 2006 10:51 (nineteen years ago)

Brunch can happen at any time of the morning or afternoon, so long as it is the first meal you eat upon waking. Though traditionally, I think it should be about 11am.

The late afternoon equivalent is Lupper. Especially if eaten upon your lap in front of telly and/or the fire.

Negative Mental Attitude (kate), Monday, 23 October 2006 10:53 (nineteen years ago)

people don't generally have lunner/dunch/lupper because you kind of need 2 proper meals a day and brunch only exists becuase breakfast isn't really a proper meal e.g. many people skip it anyway.

brunch should involve a coronation chicken sandwich. or eggs benedict. or instant noodles, or chicken congee.

i had a Brunner the other day though, because i was hungover and too tired to wake up and cook until 3pm, and then i went out later and didn't have any dinner. so it was kind of a breakfast, lunch and dinner all in one in a way.

ken c (ken c), Monday, 23 October 2006 11:01 (nineteen years ago)

'St. Michael's Meal'
-- ;_; (n...), October 23rd, 2006 12:50 PM. (blueski)

hehe, isn't that from look around you?

wogan lenin (dog latin), Monday, 23 October 2006 11:11 (nineteen years ago)

if it is not relaxed it is not brunch. getting over to someone else's house - or a restaurant or something - before noon on a weekend?? i would be miserable. even close after noon is hard enough as momus and ned and ally can attest (remember good world?). ideally, the beginning of brunch should be a sliding scale of time somewhere between 1:30 and 3, with a table larded with food and a constant hum of low-impact activity in the kitchen

Euai Kapaui (tracerhand), Monday, 23 October 2006 14:40 (nineteen years ago)

Brunch happens whenever you stumble out of bed after the previous night's drinking extravaganza.

molly d (mollyd), Monday, 23 October 2006 14:44 (nineteen years ago)

I and most other students have brunch almost every single day, being too lazy in general to wake up for breakfast. Brunch begins at about 12:30 and can be taken at any time, realistically, until about 3:30.

You've Got Scourage On Your Breath (Haberdager), Monday, 23 October 2006 14:46 (nineteen years ago)

Oohh Tracer, that is SO much too late for me, I know we've disagreed about it before. I need to eat when I wake up or shortly thereafter or bad things happen...but then I am on my own, so I just roll out of bed, put current novel in bag, and leave for the restaurant. If I had someone else to consider it might not be so easy/early.

Laurel (Laurel), Monday, 23 October 2006 14:51 (nineteen years ago)

I was invited for "brunch" at a friend's on Saturday, It was a whole lot of fun.

However, due to his "brunch" mentalism (i.e. we're invited to arrive at 1 pm) I had breakfast first, after rising at a sensible hour.

If it's after midday, it's just lunch.

Tim (Tim), Monday, 23 October 2006 14:54 (nineteen years ago)

I'd say brunch is 11 to 3. Any earlier and it's breakfast, but since 11 is when some restaurants start serving lunch, I think it can work as the beginning of brunch. 3 is when one of my favorite brunch spots closes.

jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 23 October 2006 14:55 (nineteen years ago)

Captain Tim is correct.

10-30 to 11-30.

Steve is correct, to say that elevenses are superior.

Bhumibol Adulyadej (Lucretia My Reflection), Monday, 23 October 2006 14:57 (nineteen years ago)

you people and your "waking up"

maybe so, tim and starry, but calling it brunch allows for so much more leeway with the tipple

Euai Kapaui (tracerhand), Monday, 23 October 2006 14:57 (nineteen years ago)

Brunch can start at 11 if you're lame or not that hungover, but it really should be between 1 and 3 or so. It may last until nightfall.

ken noizewater (Pareene), Monday, 23 October 2006 14:58 (nineteen years ago)

anytime between 10:30 and 4 pm.

hstencil (hstencil), Monday, 23 October 2006 14:58 (nineteen years ago)

Brunch is lunch when you haven't eaten breakfast, surely?

You've Got Scourage On Your Breath (Haberdager), Monday, 23 October 2006 14:59 (nineteen years ago)

it's on the weekend ok

jhoshea megafauna (scoopsnoodle), Monday, 23 October 2006 15:01 (nineteen years ago)

allows for so much more leeway with the tipple

Oh if you're just using this as an excuse to feel un-bad about bouzing, then go ahead with my blessing.

Much simpler is to stop worrying about bouze for breakfast, and learn to love it (er, occasionally, I suppose).

Tim (Tim), Monday, 23 October 2006 15:02 (nineteen years ago)

Brunch is lunch when you haven't eaten breakfast, surely?

Yes. In my circle, it's normally at 1 pm on Saturday or Sunday.

M. White (Miguelito), Monday, 23 October 2006 15:03 (nineteen years ago)

any time between 10:30 and 3:30

cocksure triumphalism at its most vacant (Jody Beth Rosen), Monday, 23 October 2006 15:03 (nineteen years ago)

Brunch implies a certain laziness, so anything before 10:30am is just breakfast.

molly d (mollyd), Monday, 23 October 2006 15:03 (nineteen years ago)

Brunch is when you have booze (bloody mary/mimosa) with breakfast.

Black lets you know that it's a far too late to be put in your vagina. (nickalic, Monday, 23 October 2006 15:04 (nineteen years ago)

10am-noon.

Brunch implies the types of food rather than a time to me. I wouldn't eat fresh, thin-crust pizza (thinking of a specific restaurant) at breakfast, but I can damn well have a slice with an omelette at brunch. And I'd never eat an omelette after 9am unless it's brunch.

milo z (mlp), Monday, 23 October 2006 15:06 (nineteen years ago)

I agree with Milo. Brunch implies a certain menu as well.

M. White (Miguelito), Monday, 23 October 2006 15:07 (nineteen years ago)

Agreed. That's the most exciting thing about brunch - okay, I want tuna salad AND hash browns, wtf kind of meal will deliver on my crave?

Black lets you know that it's a far too late to be put in your vagina. (nickalic, Monday, 23 October 2006 15:10 (nineteen years ago)

brunch i think must have something to do with waking up, to qualify as brunch there is a threshold of 'work done', measured in joules (and defined as the equvalent amount of work done to brush one's teeth, and doing a poo), that if exceeded since you arose from sleep, shall invalid your brunch as a mere 'lunch'.

ken c (ken c), Monday, 23 October 2006 15:13 (nineteen years ago)

and, if a meal qualifies the above rule, but a subsequent meal is consumed before the evening (see appendix a - definition: dinner time), the preliminary 'brunch' is status of the first meal is invalidated and instead consumes the status of a 'breakfast'.

ken c (ken c), Monday, 23 October 2006 15:18 (nineteen years ago)

11:30-3

gabbneb (gabbneb), Monday, 23 October 2006 15:22 (nineteen years ago)

actually, the work done threashold also includes an allowance for making the actual brunch, which is a small allowance that only includes one of either omlettes, eggs benedicte, coronation chicken sandwich, instant noodles or chicken congee.

this can be also defined, as the equivalant amount of energy it takes to travel in order to get a brunch cooked for you by someone else

ken c (ken c), Monday, 23 October 2006 15:24 (nineteen years ago)

IN WHAT WORLD is 1-3 not lunchtime?

You're all barking!

Mad!

MAD I TELL YOU!

I'm quitting ILx!

If boozing is involved this early then I hope you're talking about the joy of ALL DAY DRINKING. I did a grebt post about this on lj once but bvggered if I can find it again.

Bhumibol Adulyadej (Lucretia My Reflection), Monday, 23 October 2006 15:49 (nineteen years ago)

Hello, Starry. Did you have your dinner, luv? Sounds like your blood sugar might be a little low, have some juice.

Laurel (Laurel), Monday, 23 October 2006 15:51 (nineteen years ago)

I tend to skip 'breakfast' but then go to 'lunch' just after 12. eat my unconventional unsensible fuc.

;_; (blueski), Monday, 23 October 2006 15:54 (nineteen years ago)

The Birth of Brunch: Hstencil please note yr fave Sturgeon King B. Greengrass lays claim to the genesis of NYC Sunday brunch ritual!

nabisco (nabisco), Monday, 23 October 2006 18:54 (nineteen years ago)

nabisco this thread needs your in-weighing!

Euai Kapaui (tracerhand), Monday, 23 October 2006 19:18 (nineteen years ago)

that's a nice vector cartoon of nickalicious behind your link, by the way

Euai Kapaui (tracerhand), Monday, 23 October 2006 19:19 (nineteen years ago)

this thread reads like some hobbit-centric scene from lord of the rings

gear (gear), Monday, 23 October 2006 19:20 (nineteen years ago)

this is key

As Nora Ephron, a longtime Upper West Side resident, put it in e-mail the other day, "As far as I can tell, the essential quality of an Upper West Side brunch seems to consist of milling in a large group outside of a restaurant for over an hour."

gabbneb (gabbneb), Monday, 23 October 2006 19:21 (nineteen years ago)

I don't understand -- surely these people don't all smoke? What else could possibly make standing around outside bearable on a Sunday??

Laurel (Laurel), Monday, 23 October 2006 19:24 (nineteen years ago)

see thread title

gabbneb (gabbneb), Monday, 23 October 2006 19:27 (nineteen years ago)

What else could possibly make standing around outside bearable on a Sunday??

In the case of Lexington, KY brunch fav Alfalfa's, a looooong wait. (They have in the past been good enough to serve free coffee out front to those waiting for a table.)

Black lets you know that it's a far too late to be put in your vagina. (nickalic, Monday, 23 October 2006 19:29 (nineteen years ago)

"It's not quite breakfast, it's not quite lunch, but it comes with a slice of cantaloupe at the end. You don't get completely what you would get at breakfast, but you get a good meal."

Why the hell have I all ways remember that quote?!?!? Matt Groening has much to answer for.

Rufus 3000 (Mr Noodles), Monday, 23 October 2006 19:32 (nineteen years ago)

i fucking miss ny brunch. if you got out of the apt at 10 you were an early bird, here in la everywhere's already packed at that hour

da croupier, Friday, 10 October 2014 17:35 (eleven years ago)

Weekend brunch is overrated, weekend early breakfast is underrated

Truth. I go to my local spot for a good, low-key cheap breakfast on Saturdays pretty much right when they open at 8.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 10 October 2014 17:36 (eleven years ago)

i dunno how people are defining it to hate it, but if you hate "eating a big meal between 10am-2pm on a lazy saturday" this is what it sounds like when butts cry

da croupier, Friday, 10 October 2014 17:36 (eleven years ago)

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plax (ico), Friday, 10 October 2014 17:37 (eleven years ago)

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plax (ico), Friday, 10 October 2014 17:37 (eleven years ago)

brunch in USA is basically all-day breakfast in UK, right?

kinder, Friday, 10 October 2014 17:37 (eleven years ago)

I ate brunch two weeks ago. I had a nice time.

Having brupper tonight.

brownie, Friday, 10 October 2014 17:38 (eleven years ago)

i dunno how people are defining it to hate it, but if you hate "eating a big meal between 10am-2pm on a lazy saturday" this is what it sounds like when butts cry

― da croupier, Friday, October 10, 2014 1:36 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

otm

marcos, Friday, 10 October 2014 17:39 (eleven years ago)

Yeah, hating that would be what we called a "challop" back in the day

my jaw left (Hurting 2), Friday, 10 October 2014 17:40 (eleven years ago)

i dunno how people are defining it to hate it, but if you hate "eating a big meal between 10am-2pm on a lazy saturday" this is what it sounds like when butts cry

This idea blows. Sorry

, Friday, 10 October 2014 17:41 (eleven years ago)

you blow. Sorry

marcos, Friday, 10 October 2014 17:42 (eleven years ago)

more food for me, hater

i will note i do not wait in line for 45 minutes but that is true in 95% of circumstances, not just brunch

da croupier, Friday, 10 October 2014 17:42 (eleven years ago)

also i've never lived in nyc and have only had brunch there maybe twice. when i think of brunch it's usually at a friend's or family member's house or something

marcos, Friday, 10 October 2014 17:43 (eleven years ago)

breakfast food is great, just don't go to places with crazy wait times or overpriced, shitty food, jeez.

festival culture (Jordan), Friday, 10 October 2014 17:45 (eleven years ago)

i cry no tears for nyc brunchers they don't realize how easy it is to get a good meal at a reasonable hour in a land where you don't have to drive and the bars are open til 4am

da croupier, Friday, 10 October 2014 17:47 (eleven years ago)

where here people are rolling up to valet service at 9am and JESUS FUCK

da croupier, Friday, 10 October 2014 17:47 (eleven years ago)

fuckin ned's prancing in at 8 apparently, sunshine on his shoulders making him happy

da croupier, Friday, 10 October 2014 17:48 (eleven years ago)

I seem to remember reading some other NYT or NYMag article about "brunch culture" or the "brunch scene" or something, which was actually about some kind of ultra-decadent brunches that hedge funders went to with models and bottles and shit, and one thing I really fucking hate in the NYT/NYMag is when people stealth brag by "hating" in print something that 99% of the readership will never experience. And given that this guy apparently once flew to Dubai for brunch, he seems to be in that category.

my jaw left (Hurting 2), Friday, 10 October 2014 17:50 (eleven years ago)

In Chicago we have Polish brunch. It's essential. Pierogi are the perfect brunch food.

Opus Gai (I M Losted), Friday, 10 October 2014 20:37 (eleven years ago)

fuckin ned's prancing in at 8 apparently, sunshine on his shoulders making him happy

It does!

Ned Raggett, Friday, 10 October 2014 20:43 (eleven years ago)

I like brunch because the vibe differs from dinner, where people have had all day to accumulate anecdotes, jokes, and tempers. Brunch allows a slightly lower alcohol consumption with friends still figuring out who they're going to be that day because it's too damn early. The only thing that sucks about brunch is waiting till 10:30 or 11 a.m. or whatever; by that point I'm thinking of lunch.

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 10 October 2014 20:44 (eleven years ago)

brunch is stupid b/c waiting in line for food is some suburban chain restaurant shit. might as well give me a beeper and let me go check out bed bath and beyond for 45 minutes. if u want to go somewhere that serves both breakfast food and lunch food and coffee and also booze maybe and there _is no line_ and and that food is good sure holla at ya boy but if we are brunching just to get in touch with or closer to the ineffable spirit of brunch, like celebrating ~brunch~ as some sort of totem in concert with a bunch of other glassy eyed young professional brunch celebrants then you can leave me the fuck alone. and before yall are like ppl don't actually do that go walk around your neighborhood on sunday morning and check out the brunching crowd and tell me i'm wrong then

adam, Friday, 10 October 2014 20:53 (eleven years ago)

or you can, you know, make a reservation

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 10 October 2014 20:56 (eleven years ago)

or does Eeyore stay in his lean-to scowling w/Owl while Rabbit, Piglet and Pooh drink mimosas and eat bacon

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 10 October 2014 20:57 (eleven years ago)

Or go to a less popular place or one that texts you when your table is ready.

my jaw left (Hurting 2), Friday, 10 October 2014 20:58 (eleven years ago)

while Eeyore can be in Bed Bath & Beyond buying pear-scented candles for his lean-to.

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 10 October 2014 20:59 (eleven years ago)

Man, here it is 2014 and we're still on the internet talking about brunch, hipsters, whether the rent is finally too high -- I'm starting to feel like I've been waiting at this station too long and maybe my train is just not running

my jaw left (Hurting 2), Friday, 10 October 2014 21:02 (eleven years ago)

it's possible to make breakfast

mattresslessness, Friday, 10 October 2014 21:03 (eleven years ago)

I actually understand hating brunch but that NYT piece is some top shelf bullshitty unintentional self-satire.

Brio2, Friday, 10 October 2014 21:04 (eleven years ago)

reservations are good. not crowded is good. take me to these brunch spots that are both delicious and take reservations. not taking reservations is the single worst "innovation" of the post-fine dining momofuku'd-out world we live in.

why is piglet eating bacon thats fucked up

adam, Friday, 10 October 2014 21:07 (eleven years ago)

i mean as mentioned upthread we have to define what we are talking about when we say "brunch".

as da croupier already mentioned if we are just talking about a late morning/early afternoon meal that has some sweet and savory foods served together then i don't understand what the big fuckin deal is.

seems like everyone is throwing in 1) yuppies; 2) hipsters; 3) long lines; 4) overpriced bad food; 5) upper-class jerks; 6) nyc bullshit; 5) chain restaurant nonsense, etc into their definition without actually specifying why all that needs to be "brunch"

marcos, Friday, 10 October 2014 21:09 (eleven years ago)

I think not taking reservations is just something that makes economic sense when you have lower check amounts per table (i.e. at brunch or at a cheaper place). You can't afford to tie up a table even for an extra 5-10 mins with a reservation at a busy time.

my jaw left (Hurting 2), Friday, 10 October 2014 21:09 (eleven years ago)

Like you can hold the table for the couple that's going to spend $200 with wine and dessert, not the one that's going to spend $40 on some overdressed pancakes.

my jaw left (Hurting 2), Friday, 10 October 2014 21:11 (eleven years ago)

We do what i guess could be called brunch on sundays during football season. but that is at home with friends and it often just involves some kind of eggs and bloody mary's or beers. is this ok?

(•̪●) (carne asada), Friday, 10 October 2014 21:15 (eleven years ago)

wouldn't mind some carne asada with those eggs and Bloodys tbh

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 10 October 2014 21:17 (eleven years ago)

no carne, you are ruining the middle class affordability and artsy edginess of my city in which you do not live

my jaw left (Hurting 2), Friday, 10 October 2014 21:18 (eleven years ago)

i understand the brutal economic reality faced by today's independent restaurateur, i just think it sucks.

and marcos the reason all these non-directly-meal-related factors are being rolled up into "brunch" is b/c brunch is really a metonym for this larger cultural apparatus that (for many of its participants) necessarily involves these things: jetset yupsters waiting in endless serpentine lines for unevenly reheated slop benedict. well not really but brunch-as-social-construct-in-modern-america is pretty inextricably bound to particular images of leisure and class and a louche open-necked unshaven tipsiness.

adam, Friday, 10 October 2014 21:19 (eleven years ago)

like seriously no one here is gonna gripe about good food served during a generous mealtime window

adam, Friday, 10 October 2014 21:20 (eleven years ago)

well this is ILE

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 10 October 2014 21:21 (eleven years ago)

i dunno how people are defining it to hate it, but if you hate "eating a big meal between 10am-2pm on a lazy saturday" this is what it sounds like when butts cry

This idea blows. Sorry

― 龜, Friday, October 10, 2014 1:41 PM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

marcos, Friday, 10 October 2014 21:24 (eleven years ago)

Traditionally I make an enormous pile of monte cristo sandwiches and serve them with sugar and jam (or sometimes béarnaise) on New Year's Day with tomato juice and coffee to hungover people and I think that counts as brunch but that's a special occasion not every Saturday

fgti, Friday, 10 October 2014 21:45 (eleven years ago)

you yuppie savage

marcos, Friday, 10 October 2014 21:49 (eleven years ago)

and marcos the reason all these non-directly-meal-related factors are being rolled up into "brunch" is b/c brunch is really a metonym for this larger cultural apparatus that (for many of its participants) necessarily involves these things: jetset yupsters waiting in endless serpentine lines for unevenly reheated slop benedict. well not really but brunch-as-social-construct-in-modern-america is pretty inextricably bound to particular images of leisure and class and a louche open-necked unshaven tipsiness.

― adam, Friday, 10 October 2014 21:19 (1 hour ago) Permalink

i got your larger cultural apparatus right here. urban yuppies didn't invent brunch ffs, people have it after church in the heartland

da croupier, Friday, 10 October 2014 22:44 (eleven years ago)

at the point people start complaining about jetset yuppie blah blah the word "brunch" becomes redundant. it's not like y'all dig those people any other time of the week.

da croupier, Friday, 10 October 2014 22:45 (eleven years ago)

superfluous, not redundant, i mean

da croupier, Friday, 10 October 2014 22:48 (eleven years ago)

I was kind of thinking about starting a "the kind of ilx posts that there are" thread, because, for example, it seems like there's pretty much always someone who skateboards into the thread, reminds us that if you hate obviously enjoyable thing you hate fun, throws up a hang loose sign and skateboards off into the sunset.

my jaw left (Hurting 2), Saturday, 11 October 2014 04:10 (eleven years ago)

brunch is exciting

schlump, Saturday, 11 October 2014 04:36 (eleven years ago)

true. among other things, brunch offers many exciting possibilities for eating mayonnaise and tipping

Aimless, Saturday, 11 October 2014 04:40 (eleven years ago)

three years pass...

one of the first ppl i heard talking ostentatiously about brunch in the media (30 years ago) was Rush Limbaugh

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 9 August 2018 19:07 (seven years ago)

Your mid 20s.

Hey Bob (Scik Mouthy), Thursday, 9 August 2018 19:22 (seven years ago)


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