John Cameron (Hedwig) Mitchell's sexual fairytale of New York, "Shortbus"

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This avoided so many of the pitfalls of doing a narrative non-porn film with explicit sex I'm sorry I didn't like it more... The three main gay male characters are all dimwits, and I think JCM only wants us to think one of them is. (Don't leave when that lippy twink starts playing his godawful singer-songwriter shit; it's over in 90 seconds.) And I think giving 'Ed Koch' a forgiving kiss is going too far.

But the dialogue is wittier than expected, and Sook-Yin Lee and Lindsay Beamish are good, esp their isolation tank scene. Justin Bond is right, he's the Dame Judi Dench of this (tho I think 'Honey, do you have a cellphone in your twat?") is more quotable than anything in Shakespeare in Love).

I attended a couple shindigs at Dumba, the Brooklyn space where the sex salon was shot: they had a Gay Shame day in June sometimes, and there was a party called the Lusty Loft. Not as much fun as the movie one (the annoying dude who proffers the druggy treats in the film was the annoying host).

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Monday, 23 October 2006 13:09 (nineteen years ago)

I liked it. Justin Bond steals every scene he's in (it took me a whole day to realize who he was though--shame on me too as I just saw Kiki & Herb last New Year's Eve.) I do agree that they the three (or is it four) main gay male are pretty dopey although I thought that the "tortured" one did a really good job with his, despite (or perhaps because of) that.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Monday, 23 October 2006 14:33 (nineteen years ago)

Some reviewers are making this sound like it is going to be the breakthrough Brokeback Mountain of underground swinging sex films. Not sure what they are smoking. It's fun, but come on people, no one outisde of NYC/SF/LA/CHI is even gonna see this.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Monday, 23 October 2006 14:35 (nineteen years ago)

well, the "tortured" one seems obv based on the Tarnation guy (suicidal? -- if only).

Lotsa ppl in the hustings will see it on disc. It's better agitprop for polyamory than a satisfying movie.

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Monday, 23 October 2006 14:45 (nineteen years ago)

like i said before... i liked it a lot, found it very winning and warm and funny.

s1ocki (slutsky), Monday, 23 October 2006 15:29 (nineteen years ago)

even "Soda Shop"? (I saw that guy sing it live in June... the horror)

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Monday, 23 October 2006 15:31 (nineteen years ago)

I really liked this--for similar reasons as Morbs and Slocki. I also was really impressed by how seamless the tone changes were.

well, the "tortured" one seems obv based on the Tarnation guy (suicidal? -- if only).

Jonathan Caoette actually appears in Shortbus for, like, 2 seconds.

C0L1N B... (C0L1N B...), Monday, 23 October 2006 18:56 (nineteen years ago)

Dude, every Hedwiggy fan is gonna dl or pre-order this shit...if they all watched CAMP for the Hedwig connection than the idea of a JCM sex rompe is giving all those people a million, billion boners.

Abbott (Abbott), Monday, 23 October 2006 22:06 (nineteen years ago)

definitely. when he spoke at my school for our freshman orientation a guy in the audience asked JCM point-blank if he'd go on a date with him. (i forget his response to that but dude was generally kind of a dick all over, though.)

joseph (joseph), Tuesday, 24 October 2006 03:26 (nineteen years ago)

from what i saw of him in toronto he seemed like a good guy.

s1ocki (slutsky), Tuesday, 24 October 2006 03:38 (nineteen years ago)

two months pass...
SPOILERS!!!

I thought this was okay. I liked its general attitude towards sexuality, and some of the individual scenes were wonderful... But I also thought it left a bit too much unresolved. Did the sex therapist orgasm in the end, and if so, why? And why not orgasming was such a major deal to her to begin with? (I know several women to whom it's not.) The movie hinted that she had some other psychological issues, but didn't return to that. Similarly, it felt like "Severin's" story was just abandoned at some point. And the "Third Wheel" and "Voyeur" kissing each other in the end was a bit too convenient. All in all, I thought all the themes were interesting, but the movie didn't delve deep enough to them. I would've gladly watched an hour more of it, because I loved the way it was made.

Tuomas (Tuomas), Monday, 8 January 2007 17:45 (nineteen years ago)

I'd say her wailing that lit up all of NYC constituted an orgasm.

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Monday, 8 January 2007 17:57 (nineteen years ago)

SPOILERS:

I really, really disliked this film. Laughed exactly twice (at the 'Jennifer Aniston' joke, and the cell-phone self portrait to check for food-in-teeth), and found every single character repulsive in almost every way. It's suffocating in its self-satisfaction and navel-gazing, and I wanted to burn the theater to the ground every time there was even a fleeting reference to 9/11.

The former-child-actor character and accompanying jokes were mind-bogglingly stale; this was probably the 6th or 7th indie film I've seen centered around a woman who hasn't been able to have an orgasm; the 'real sex' gimmick wasn't even really interesting or even the least bit sexy (the only moderately intriguing sex scene - the male threesome with the songwriter-model guy - was so hard to watch because every line of dialogue was so insipid).

The point of the film isn't even really clear (not that it needs to have one, but it seems to really WANT to have one), though it appears to conclude that monogamy is all wrong and that you need to step outside your relationship to achieve a truly healthy sexuality.

Ugh. I love Mitchell but this was a stinker.

Tiki Theater Xymposium (Bent Over at the Arclight), Monday, 8 January 2007 18:07 (nineteen years ago)

It's better agitprop for polyamory than a satisfying movie.

I just now noticed that comment of yours, Morbious PHD, and it's OTM.

Tiki Theater Xymposium (Bent Over at the Arclight), Monday, 8 January 2007 18:08 (nineteen years ago)

I kinda agree that the movie felt like it wanted to say something profound, but didn't quite. Though polyamory didn't seem to solve things for the two Jamies, and in the end they seemed to have ended up as a happy monogamous couple.

By the way, I thought the most interesting character was the one who the film was the least interested in, i.e. the voyeur guy.

Tuomas (Tuomas), Monday, 8 January 2007 18:16 (nineteen years ago)

I'm curious about this, will probably see it even though I thought Hedwig was awful awful awful (all costumes and setpieces, no decent songs or characters or stories)

Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 8 January 2007 18:28 (nineteen years ago)

tiki theater basically OTM, i didn't like this at all

joseph (joseph), Tuesday, 9 January 2007 07:32 (nineteen years ago)

Did the sex therapist orgasm in the end, and if so, why?

the second question is practically unfathomable.

the original hauntology blogging crew (Enrique), Tuesday, 9 January 2007 10:05 (nineteen years ago)

What do you mean?

Tuomas (Tuomas), Tuesday, 9 January 2007 13:59 (nineteen years ago)

why do people usually orgasm?

the original hauntology blogging crew (Enrique), Tuesday, 9 January 2007 14:01 (nineteen years ago)

Well, yeah, but the film hinted that the reason for her non-orgasming was some psychological knot, but in the end all it took was a threesome to "cure" her.

Tuomas (Tuomas), Tuesday, 9 January 2007 14:02 (nineteen years ago)

she learned to relax, The End.

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 9 January 2007 14:35 (nineteen years ago)

And why not orgasming was such a major deal to her to begin with? (I know several women to whom it's not.)

or at least they told you this

and what (ooo), Tuesday, 9 January 2007 14:38 (nineteen years ago)

Tiki utterly, utterly OTM. And Tuomas OTM on the lack-of-depth thing. Movie seemed to feel it had so much to say, when really was saying nothing at all.

Liked the final almost magic-realist brass band scene, but only as a kind of music video.

sean gramophone (Sean M), Tuesday, 9 January 2007 15:49 (nineteen years ago)

"Saying nothing at all" is a bit harsh, when the American cultural trend is for gay adults in particular to embrace monogamy and the hetero-political implications of "marriage" as the norm to which they should aspire.

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 9 January 2007 15:59 (nineteen years ago)

five months pass...

Will screen tonight!

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Tuesday, 26 June 2007 21:11 (eighteen years ago)

Shortbus was highly recommended to me by a good friend, but Hedwig was SO BAD...

Shakey Mo Collier, Tuesday, 26 June 2007 22:59 (eighteen years ago)

Tiki Theatre basically OTM, but Voyeur was really, really cute.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Wednesday, 27 June 2007 00:49 (eighteen years ago)

I liked the movie; I loved the - I hate to call it animated - sequences between scenes, which made New York look like Van Gogh's Starry Night. Maybe it isn't exactly like Starry Night, but that image has been emblazoned in my mind. Seemingly every girl at Marquette had that fucking reprint in their dorm rooms. Anyway, I was pretty charmed by the movie, but a little put off by the voyeur's actions toward the end.

jposnan, Wednesday, 27 June 2007 02:18 (eighteen years ago)

four months pass...

like i said before... i liked it a lot, found it very winning and warm and funny.

-- s1ocki (slutsky), Monday, October 23, 2006 10:29 AM (1 year ago) Bookmark Link

Watched this tonight and totally agree.

Rock Hardy, Sunday, 18 November 2007 05:31 (eighteen years ago)

I enjoyed the first two thirds or so, the end was trying waaay to hard for a big Everyone Is Beautiful moment. His warmth and empathy in regards to sex quirks is pretty refreshing for indie films, esp. compared to someone like Todd Solondz.

da croupier, Sunday, 18 November 2007 06:29 (eighteen years ago)

"sex quirks" is a really weak way to describe what I'm talking about, but I don't wanna say sexual "dysfunction," I just mean people dealing with everything that's funny and sad about sex.

da croupier, Sunday, 18 November 2007 06:31 (eighteen years ago)

eleven months pass...

How 'bout that TURKISH GRIP in the opening scenes?

Germany's second-favourite Australian fat leg spin bowler (King Boy Pato), Sunday, 16 November 2008 12:10 (seventeen years ago)

"Saying nothing at all" is a bit harsh, when the American cultural trend is for gay adults in particular to embrace monogamy and the hetero-political implications of "marriage" as the norm to which they should aspire.

True, but I think polyamory is an even bigger farce than monogamy.

Eric H., Sunday, 16 November 2008 14:23 (seventeen years ago)

oh, i have no faith in polyamory as an agenda. Or, agendas.

Dr Morbius, Monday, 17 November 2008 16:59 (seventeen years ago)

polyagendory

s1ocki, Monday, 17 November 2008 17:00 (seventeen years ago)

seriously though, if you think every kind of romantic relationship is a farce, is any movie about love or intimacy that isn't about complete estrangement and isolation going to satisfy you?

s1ocki, Monday, 17 November 2008 17:01 (seventeen years ago)

Well, I can certainly laugh at the roundelays.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Monday, 17 November 2008 17:02 (seventeen years ago)

I don't see the farcical aspect of human relations as automatically bad.

Dr Morbius, Monday, 17 November 2008 17:04 (seventeen years ago)

Not in movies, at least.

Eric H., Monday, 17 November 2008 17:11 (seventeen years ago)

one year passes...

MOVIE OF THE DECADE

no mate bruce springsteen is the american jimmy barnes (King Boy Pato), Wednesday, 23 December 2009 10:08 (sixteen years ago)

And not just for the opening scene alone.

no mate bruce springsteen is the american jimmy barnes (King Boy Pato), Wednesday, 23 December 2009 10:08 (sixteen years ago)

really like this film too. totally joyous and unashamed. i remember finding it quite moving but i'm not sure why, now.

jed_, Wednesday, 23 December 2009 11:38 (sixteen years ago)

nine months pass...

finally watched this
haha, loved it :)

obliquity of the ecliptic (rrrobyn), Monday, 11 October 2010 01:51 (fifteen years ago)


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