BBC admits bias

Message Bookmarked
Bookmark Removed
http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3318582,00.html

Makes me wish I could still watch Bill O'Reilly.

Lovelace (Lovelace), Monday, 23 October 2006 20:37 (nineteen years ago)

The BBC's not perfect, but starting a report on this with those first three paragraphs under the badge "Biased media" is somewhat ironic.

Alba (Alba), Monday, 23 October 2006 21:01 (nineteen years ago)

It is a very politically correct news service. But all that means is you try not to offend anyone. Christians aren't going to get offended on the whole if the Bible is on Room 101 (as long as it was done tastefully), while Muslims would be very offended if the Quran was put up there. That's not really bias, that's just common sense ... they wouldn't put Holocaust Memorials or Jesus Christ into Room 101 for the same reasons; that it would offend Jews and Christians, respectively.

zlorgznorg (zlorgznorg), Monday, 23 October 2006 23:13 (nineteen years ago)

According to the ‘Washington Times’, the BBC also reportedly revealed that its executives favored interviewing terrorist leader Osama bin Laden if the opportunity arose.

uh who wouldn't?

Curt1s St3ph3ns, Monday, 23 October 2006 23:16 (nineteen years ago)

It is a very politically correct news service.

Please take a long, sober think about that statement.

James Herbert Dip (noodle vague), Tuesday, 24 October 2006 00:30 (nineteen years ago)

I love a good bum on a woman, it makes my day.
To me it is palpable proof of God's existence, a posteriori.
Also I love breasts and arms and ankles, elbows, knees;
It's the tongue, the tongue, the tongue on a woman that spoils the job for me.
Please understand I respect and admire the frailer sex
And I honour them every bit as much as the next misogynist.
But give some women the ghost of a chance to talk and thereupon
They go on again, on again, on again, on again, on again, on again, on.

I fell in love with a woman with wonderful thighs and hips
And a sensational belly. I just never noticed her lips were always moving.
Only when we got to the altar and she had to say "I do"
And she folded her arms and gathered herself and took in a breath and I knew
She could have gone on again, on again, on again till the entire
Congregation passed out and the vicar passed on and the choirboys passed through puberty.
At the reception I gloomily noted her family's jubilant mood,
Their maniacal laughter and their ghastly gratitude.

She talks to me when I go for a shave or a sleep or a swim.
She talks to me on a Sunday when I go singing hymns and drinking heavily.
When I go mending my chimney pot she's down there in the street,
And at ninety-five on my motorbike she's on the pillion seat
Wittering on again, on again, on and again and again.
When I'm eating or drinking or reading or thinking or when I'm saying my rosary.
She will never stop talking to me; she is one of those women who
Will never use three or four words when a couple of thousand will easily do!

She also talks without stopping to me in our bed of a night;
Throughout the sweetest of our intimate delights she never gives over.
Not even stopping while we go hammer and tongs towards the peak -
Except maybe for a sigh and a groan and one perfunctory shriek.
Then she goes on again, on again, on again on and I must
Assume that she has never noticed that she's just been interrupted.
Totally unruffled she is, and as far as I can see
I might just as well have been posting a letter or stirring up the tea!

She will not take a hint, not once she's made a start.
I can yawn or belch or bleed or faint or fart - she'll not drop a syllable.
I could stand in front of her grimly sharpening up an axe,
I could sprinkle her with paraffin, and ask her for a match -
She'd just go on again, on again, on again even more.
The hind leg of a donkey is peanuts for her, she can bore the balls off a buffalo.
"Mother of God," I cried one day, "Oh, let your kingdom come
"And in the meantime, Mother, could you strike this bugger dumb?"

Well, believe it or not, she appeared to me then and there:
The Blessed Virgin herself, in answer to my prayer, despite the vulgarity,
Shimmering softly, dressed in blue and holding up a hand.
I cocked a pious ear as the Mother of God began.
Well she went on again, on again, on again, on, and I
Will have to state how very much I sympathise with the rest of the family.
Give some women the ghost of a chance to talk and thereupon
They go on again, on again, on again, on again,
And again, and again, and again, and again
They will go on again, on again, on again, on again, on again, on again, on.

James Herbert Dip (noodle vague), Tuesday, 24 October 2006 00:50 (nineteen years ago)

I saw this thread initially as "BBC admits bass".

Then I saw the title again, and became sad.

gwynywdd dwnyt fyrwr byychydd gww (donut), Tuesday, 24 October 2006 01:13 (nineteen years ago)

Its good that by its structure the BBC has to be self regulating and self critical to a certain extent. Can you imagine such hand-wringing by CNN or fox or indeed the hebrew 'news' site that was linked in the opening post.

Ed (dali), Tuesday, 24 October 2006 05:43 (nineteen years ago)

Mmm, I was wondering at the integrity of the site/paper the link goes to.

Trayce (trayce), Tuesday, 24 October 2006 06:07 (nineteen years ago)

To be fair it doesn't look that bad as things go. The opinion page is pretty varied. There's some interesting stuff in there. I should probably retract the quote marks from my previous post.

Ed (dali), Tuesday, 24 October 2006 06:18 (nineteen years ago)

Wow, overtly promoting multiculturalism. For shame!

accentmonkey (accentmonkey), Tuesday, 24 October 2006 07:07 (nineteen years ago)

My girlfriend's dad spends most of his waking hours writing angry letters of complaint to the BBC about bias, but he says they're too pro-Israel.

As somone said on a Comment Is Free piece on the same subject, the BBC is a very big thing and BBC News is the most diverse part of the whole thing - Newsnight, the 6 O'Clock, Today, Breakfast, Five Live, Newsbeat... All very different programmes with their own journalists, editors, etc.

Hello Sunshine (Hello Sunshine), Tuesday, 24 October 2006 07:09 (nineteen years ago)

As Peel accurately put it, "people who sit in front of the TV waiting to be offended."

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Tuesday, 24 October 2006 07:15 (nineteen years ago)

My girlfriend's dad spends most of his waking hours writing angry letters of complaint to the BBC about bias, but he says they're too pro-Israel.

This is emblematic of how out-of-touch many Brits are about things in the Middle East.

Can you imagine such hand-wringing by CNN or fox or indeed the hebrew 'news' site that was linked in the opening post.

It is the English-language site of Yediot Achronot, which is the most widely read newspaper in Israel. It's known for being anti-settler and highly critical of the religious right, so it's probably right up your alley. But hey, you guys haven't heard of it, so I guess it's better to come off like ignorant douchebags by baselessly questioning it's "integrity", since it's an Israeli paper and all.

NoTimeBeforeTime (Barry Bruner), Tuesday, 24 October 2006 08:17 (nineteen years ago)

bbc is not really pro-israel so much as pro-ignorance. its reporting on the middle east is staggeringly stupid.

benrique (Enrique), Tuesday, 24 October 2006 08:22 (nineteen years ago)

"This is emblematic of how out-of-touch many Brits are about things in the Middle East."

No, it's emblematic of exactly what I said in the same post - that the BBC is a vast corporation with dozens of seperate outlets offering different takes on things. Could anyone listen to, say, Chris Moyles and then say the BBC is all about tolerance and equality?

As for your complaint that the ILXors here are "ignorant douchebags" because they're all anti-Israeli... You've got one post questioning the impartiality of the link (and when it features an outright piece of comment such as "however, the true stance of the corporation’s editors remained the same" in the second par of a news story you can't blame people for raising eyebrows), and one in which Ed puts quote marks around "News" which he then later says he thinks he should retract.

Hello Sunshine (Hello Sunshine), Tuesday, 24 October 2006 08:32 (nineteen years ago)

It is the English-language site of Yediot Achronot, which is the most widely read newspaper in Israel. It's known for being anti-settler and highly critical of the religious right, so it's probably right up your alley. But hey, you guys haven't heard of it, so I guess it's better to come off like ignorant douchebags by baselessly questioning it's "integrity", since it's an Israeli paper and all.

Please note my retraction of my quote marks two post below or face coming off like an ignorant douchebag yourself.

Ed (dali), Tuesday, 24 October 2006 08:38 (nineteen years ago)

As for your complaint that the ILXors here are "ignorant douchebags" because they're all anti-Israeli...

Nope, I said it was ignorant to criticize the integrity of a newspaper that you have never even seen before and know nothing about. Then again, I'm about 75% sure if I'd linked to some anonymous Canadian newspaper that ran the same story then the comments upthread would not have been made (retracted or not).

NoTimeBeforeTime (Barry Bruner), Tuesday, 24 October 2006 08:47 (nineteen years ago)

Basically, Enrique is OTM and anyone who seriously doubts the BBC's bias on these issues needs to get their news from a wider variety of sources.

NoTimeBeforeTime (Barry Bruner), Tuesday, 24 October 2006 08:49 (nineteen years ago)

insert "ignorance" for "bias" in my last post if you wish

NoTimeBeforeTime (Barry Bruner), Tuesday, 24 October 2006 08:50 (nineteen years ago)

Depends if they quoted the Daily Express or not.

Ed (dali), Tuesday, 24 October 2006 08:50 (nineteen years ago)

Arabs cite the BBC for a pro Israeli bias and Israelis cite the BBC for a pro palestinian/arab bias, which probably means the Beeb is doing OK in terms of Bias.

Ed (dali), Tuesday, 24 October 2006 08:52 (nineteen years ago)

You could say that about most Western media sources (and most issues), it doesn't mean they're not biased.

31g (31g), Tuesday, 24 October 2006 08:54 (nineteen years ago)

Whereas the Daily Express STANDS FOR TRADITIONAL VALUES

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Tuesday, 24 October 2006 08:54 (nineteen years ago)

that's bbc logic ed!

it's total nonsense, from a journalistic point of view.

benrique (Enrique), Tuesday, 24 October 2006 08:55 (nineteen years ago)

the bbc is ever so 'scrupulous' on some things, but on others not. so russian gas companies are much worse than hamas.

benrique (Enrique), Tuesday, 24 October 2006 08:56 (nineteen years ago)

Whether it is covering the middle east in the right way or the right depth, with insight or ignorance depends entirely on which journalist and which particular BBC news programme or outlet they happen to be working for at the time and for which editor.

Anyone who is not a fool should question the integrity of all media all the time. 'The price of freedom is eternal vigilance' and all that.

Ed (dali), Tuesday, 24 October 2006 08:57 (nineteen years ago)

Whether it is covering the middle east in the right way or the right depth, with insight or ignorance depends entirely on which journalist and which particular BBC news programme or outlet they happen to be working for at the time and for which editor.

do you believe that? there are certainly variations and some shows (today and newsnight obviously) have their own feel. but most news output, especially on bbc1, is totally homogenous.

benrique (Enrique), Tuesday, 24 October 2006 09:01 (nineteen years ago)

"THE PRICE OF FREEDOM IS TOO HIGH I CAN'T AFFORD IT ON MY CHILD BENEFIT IT'S A DISGRACE 65% OF YOU AGREE SO FAR"

But that's enough about GMTV's News Hour.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Tuesday, 24 October 2006 09:02 (nineteen years ago)

To be fair I can't comment on BBC1 or News24 because I rarely watch them. My experience of the BBC news is Newsnight and the Today programme (and bbc news online)

Ed (dali), Tuesday, 24 October 2006 09:04 (nineteen years ago)

there are certainly variations and some shows (today and newsnight obviously) have their own feel. but most news output, especially on bbc1, is totally homogenous

The CBC in Canada is very much the same ... there's a reason why people always talk about newspapers and TV news stations having an "editorial bent". Saying that it all depends on which reporter/presenter is delivering the story is a bit of a cop-out.

NoTimeBeforeTime (Barry Bruner), Tuesday, 24 October 2006 09:07 (nineteen years ago)

editors want to move up inside the corporation. this will not happen if they buck the system. it's basic power relations stuff.

benrique (Enrique), Tuesday, 24 October 2006 09:10 (nineteen years ago)

I lost faith in the BBC when they put June Sarpong on Question Time.

Pete W (peterw), Tuesday, 24 October 2006 09:12 (nineteen years ago)

editors want to move up inside the corporation

Why the hell do a crap Joy Division ripoff band want anything to do with the BBC?

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Tuesday, 24 October 2006 09:13 (nineteen years ago)

Oh marcello u is teh funny

Johnny B Was Quizzical (Johnney B), Tuesday, 24 October 2006 09:16 (nineteen years ago)

I am, as well.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Tuesday, 24 October 2006 09:25 (nineteen years ago)

Why the hell do a 90s French rap group want anything to do with the BBC?

;_; (blueski), Tuesday, 24 October 2006 09:27 (nineteen years ago)

I lost faith in the BBC

P. Diddy wants her back.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Tuesday, 24 October 2006 09:33 (nineteen years ago)

is this thing on?

;_; (blueski), Tuesday, 24 October 2006 09:44 (nineteen years ago)

This comment is incorrect uninform. Faith was not in the BBC, he went to ITV and made popular gangster comedy Budgies, and only then did he come back to score big hits with Legs Hurts, romantic popular comedy with Zoe Ball Sayers.

Comstock Carabineri (nostudium), Tuesday, 24 October 2006 09:49 (nineteen years ago)

Will the same newspaper be reporting the usual Daily Express stories about how Jews killed Princess Di?

Sadly, he will be the next Alexis Petridish. (Dom Passantino), Tuesday, 24 October 2006 10:37 (nineteen years ago)


You must be logged in to post. Please either login here, or if you are not registered, you may register here.