A thread for weird random factoids you learn during the day

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1. Cuba was an Allied nation during WWII, and the Cuban Navy even managed to sink a U-boat.

kingfish prætor (kingfish 2.0), Tuesday, 24 October 2006 06:14 (nineteen years ago)

2. Finland likes latin, so much so that there was a finnish elvis impersonator singing 'Can't help falling in Love' in Latin on the Today programme.

Ed (dali), Tuesday, 24 October 2006 06:27 (nineteen years ago)

3. There are no snakes in New Zealand

C J (C J), Tuesday, 24 October 2006 06:49 (nineteen years ago)

When the term "factoid" was originally coined, did it mean a genuine fact that was trivial, or a false pseudo-fact, plausible enough to be repeated and believed? It seems to mean both now, which is very confusing.

Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 24 October 2006 07:16 (nineteen years ago)

4. Pirates wore earrings because piercing your ears improves your eyesight. (there's an accupuncture/pressure nerve intersection thingy in there somewhere related to eyesight, is the explanation that was offered after my "WTF?" reaction)

StanM (StanM), Tuesday, 24 October 2006 07:44 (nineteen years ago)

(omfg, it's true, even!)

StanM (StanM), Tuesday, 24 October 2006 07:47 (nineteen years ago)

"Factoid is from 1973, first explained, if not coined, by Norman Mailer.
'Factoids ... that is, facts which have no existence before appearing in a magazine or newspaper, creations which are not so much lies as a product to manipulate emotion in the Silent Majority.' [N. Mailer, 'Marilyn,' 1973]

(From www.etymonline.com, which also says "Until at least the 1880s, even some medical men still believed piercing the ear lobes improved one's eyesight", heh heh]

ledge (ledge), Tuesday, 24 October 2006 07:50 (nineteen years ago)

5. Some British radar stations were given hockey sticks in WWII to fight off the Nazis if they ever successfully invaded, because there was a shortage of weapons.

salexandra (salexander), Tuesday, 24 October 2006 07:55 (nineteen years ago)

So, wait, are we looking for factoids here, or facts?

I have a fact. Rabbits are not native to Ireland, I found out last night.

accentmonkey (accentmonkey), Tuesday, 24 October 2006 08:14 (nineteen years ago)

4. Pirates wore earrings because piercing your ears improves your eyesight. (there's an accupuncture/pressure nerve intersection thingy in there somewhere related to eyesight, is the explanation that was offered after my "WTF?" reaction)

First of all, surely pirates didn't know about acupuncture. Secondly, there's no medical proof that acupuncture can do any of the things it claims to do. It certainly doesn't improve eyesight.

Tuomas (Tuomas), Tuesday, 24 October 2006 09:14 (nineteen years ago)

Check out the article I linked to immediately after that, it's not impossible: http://www.imponderables.com/why_did_pirates.php

StanM (StanM), Tuesday, 24 October 2006 09:33 (nineteen years ago)

First of all, surely pirates didn't know about acupuncture.

Who says? They spent a lot of time hanging around major trading routes with some fairly widely-travelled people. They may not have known any of the thinking behind acupuncture, but there's nothing to suggest they didn't hear bullshit stories about sticking an earring in your ear improving your eyesight.

I can't help thinking that pirates wore earrings because it was jus the bling of the time. It's all about portable wealth, and nothing makes you look harder (well, okay, some things) than being able to pay for your meal by ripping your earring out without flinching.

Secondly, there's no medical proof that acupuncture can do any of the things it claims to do. It certainly doesn't improve eyesight.

If it can do anything at all, I don't see why it can't improve eyesight. I know a guy who claimed it made him function properly again after a massive stroke he had when he was 25.

accentmonkey (accentmonkey), Tuesday, 24 October 2006 09:35 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, and the only sources the article states are acupuncturists themselves. The pirates might have believed that piercing the ears improves eyesight, and acupuncturists might still believe in it, but there's no medical proof for such claims.

Tuomas (Tuomas), Tuesday, 24 October 2006 09:37 (nineteen years ago)

(x-post)

Tuomas (Tuomas), Tuesday, 24 October 2006 09:37 (nineteen years ago)

If it can do anything at all, I don't see why it can't improve eyesight.

Most objective studies have found that it can relieve tension, and that's about it. Any claims that puncturing one part of body with small needles will somehow help to heal some other part of the body is totally against what we know about human physiology.

Tuomas (Tuomas), Tuesday, 24 October 2006 09:40 (nineteen years ago)

It cured me of my hayfever, btw. I tried it just to prove it was BS, to prove it could only ever work as suggestion, for people who believed in it.

I still think it's a bunch of hippie crap with no scientific basis, but it cured my hayfever (my regular doctor could only agree that I wasn't allergic anymore, and he asked how the hell I did it, after none of the various methods he had tried had failed).

StanM (StanM), Tuesday, 24 October 2006 09:40 (nineteen years ago)

er, none = all

StanM (StanM), Tuesday, 24 October 2006 09:41 (nineteen years ago)

Did you have a strong hayfever? Did all of the symptoms disappear? I myself have found that my hayfever has gradually gotten better by just exposing myself to the pollen and not taking the pills, though it could be that the allergic symptoms just changes from time to time, as they often do.

Tuomas (Tuomas), Tuesday, 24 October 2006 09:43 (nineteen years ago)

I mean, sometimes the body itself cures without any help from any kind of medicine at all.

Tuomas (Tuomas), Tuesday, 24 October 2006 09:43 (nineteen years ago)

Most objective studies have found that it can relieve tension, and that's about it. Any claims that puncturing one part of body with small needles will somehow help to heal some other part of the body is totally against what we know about human physiology.

I actually agree with you, but the way in which you're arguing makes me want to say "totally against what you think you know about human physiology, you mean".

Anyway, it doesn't matter whether it actually worked 100% of the time or not. The fact is that enough people can point to it having worked for them (coincidence? Some relief of tension that then had a knock-on effect? Who knows?) for it to be accepted by a large number of people. As long as your medical service isn't trying to offer it to you instead of treatment you do believe in, then I'd say you've no reason to worry about it.

accentmonkey (accentmonkey), Tuesday, 24 October 2006 09:45 (nineteen years ago)

First of all, surely pirates didn't know about acupuncture.

pirates, being sailors, would presumably, if nothing else, have experiences of performing acupuncture on each others' anii, with their penes, and found that it relieved tension

ken c (ken c), Tuesday, 24 October 2006 09:45 (nineteen years ago)

Any "alternative" healing therapy will have an amount of supporters due to, if nothing else, the placebo effect. I wasn't saying that people shouldn't be allowed to pay for acupuncture, I was just criticizing the original "factoid".

Tuomas (Tuomas), Tuesday, 24 October 2006 09:51 (nineteen years ago)

what were you criticising it for?

ken c (ken c), Tuesday, 24 October 2006 09:53 (nineteen years ago)

Did you have a strong hayfever? Did all of the symptoms disappear?

Yes, x 2.

StanM (StanM), Tuesday, 24 October 2006 10:53 (nineteen years ago)

6. louis jagger was almost on 'university challenge'

benrique (Enrique), Tuesday, 24 October 2006 10:54 (nineteen years ago)

lol

Hoosteen (Hoosteen), Tuesday, 24 October 2006 11:05 (nineteen years ago)

"anii"

Hoosteen (Hoosteen), Tuesday, 24 October 2006 11:11 (nineteen years ago)

http://snoot.org/i/wuss/yanni.gif

You called?

Yanni (dog latin), Tuesday, 24 October 2006 11:28 (nineteen years ago)

pedants! pedants have ruined my beautiful thread!

kingfish prætor (kingfish 2.0), Tuesday, 24 October 2006 14:33 (nineteen years ago)

The word Eskimo is not an Eskimo word. It means "eaters of raw meat" and was used by the Algonquin Indians of eastern Canada.

autovac (autovac), Tuesday, 24 October 2006 14:36 (nineteen years ago)

7. Rayon is made from cellulose, i.e. plant fiber!

elmo argonaut (allocryptic), Tuesday, 24 October 2006 14:42 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, some of the major american carpet companies(e.g. Mohawk) are now working on making carpet out of corn, instead of petroleum extracts.

kingfish prætor (kingfish 2.0), Tuesday, 24 October 2006 14:45 (nineteen years ago)


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